Here's mine:
About 2-3 years ago, I totally lived in this camoflage jacket thing. It wasn't
quite a jacket or a shirt, just somewhere in between. I loved it because it had
biiig pockets and fit over everything and was lightweight. The mistake was that
i'd wear it with _everything_. Floofy skirts, button down shirts.. I looked
like a mess. And i didn't realize exactly how horrible it made my skin look
until i saw pictures of myself in it. eeeek!
-nikole
Also, baggy Tshirts and long skirts. Not a good look for me.
-Nicole
>Sure, we all fall for a trend or two once in a while, or maybe
>just something that was a total fashion "oops!", and only
>realize when we look back on it, see pics from back then, or
>notice someone committing the same faux pas. So what's
>been your biggest fashion mistake?
Although i don't often fall for trends (except maybe after
the fact when i see something in the thrift store), i'm sure
i commit many fashion 'blunders.'
Ones which come to mind now are:
going through my hippyish, i don't care if it matches or not
phase (in my defense, I *was* living at Mt. Rainier at the
time, so it was more for comfort)
Flower-patterned leggings (i think i already mentioned
wanting to look like Shelly from Northern Exposure for a
short time)
office-related things (ie, wearing an unpadded bra and no
cardigan or vest + cold air = continual t.h.o.[1]; wearing non-
appropriate things to the office like short skirts, leggings,
shorts--yeah, I used to be clueless; cat hair on everything
no matter how much i delint).
I'm sure there're many more.
filigree
[1] that's titty hard-on, for the uninformed : )
When, way back, I was still learning how to do make-up, and I was 'taught'
how to apply it by this girl who, it turned out, had less of a clue than me.
I had a normal common-garden haircut, which I used to... ahem... change the
colour of using greasepaint (which also made it spikey! Whooooh!), and I'd
be in my school uniform, wearing badly applied eyeliner, no foundation,
and... ack... errrrr... gold lipstick :P
I could probably make gold lipstick look okay nowadays, but I still have
this aversion to it because I looked such a bloody state.
But, it was just post punk rock days, and it got me the attention I was
craving. I learned make-up quickly after that, when I discovered the affect
it had on the local lasses. I had so much more romantic success after that
than I did when I was in my NHS specs and second hand school blazer :)
So it was more of a learning curve than a fashion disaster. Sure, I must
have looked bad, but it got me at least interested in the way I looked.
Antonio
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> So what's
>been your biggest fashion mistake?
Well, ignoring anything that occurred before the legal age of fashion
responsibility (let's say 16 - if you're old enough to boink you're
old enough to co-ordinate), I would say my *big* mistake was a perm.
I still don't really know why I had one, I hadn't planned on getting
it done when I woke up, but at 4pm I was in the hairdressers chair. I
think I had read about 'jetting', a non-curlyish perm that gave a bit
of lift to hair, accompanied by pictures of spiky, punky, urchin
hairdo-s.
Of course, what I ended up with was the usual poodle. I looked like
freaking Crystal Tips! I quickly renewed my vow never to set foot in
a hairdresser's, which with that one disastrous exception, has lasted
for over ten years.
Jo
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-Smeggs. I've got legs like upturned Coke bottles, and Smeggs
looked terrible. Didn't stop me having about 3 different styles of
the buggers before the penny dropped that Smeggs look shite
with my legs :)
-Eyebrow piercing. Mike Patton from Faith No More had one.. so I
wanted one [1]. Got one. Grew out. Scars! Nice.
-Floor length rubber tube skirt, with my fat arse and big legs. Blee!
-Velvet Elizabethan Bustier. Ordered it, and when it came, I tried it
one. It just about covered my navel in front, with rolls of blubber
hanging out of the bottom sides, armholes etc. Terrible.
-Granny boots. Heels were too high, so i couldn't walk in them
anyway, -and- I chose to wear them when it was snowing. When I
walked on the pavement, I went arse over tits, and walking on the
grass meant my heels sunk in. And stuck.
I suppose I could mention my early years as a rocker with
bleached skintight jeans complete with rip across the arse where
my bumcheeks fell out, plus the cowboy boots, and the Motley
Crue t-shirts but.. nah, that'd just be embarassing.
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[1 - yeah, I got a piercing 'cos I thought it was cool. And?
> So what's been your biggest fashion mistake?
Okay, I was a walking fashion faux pas during my "awkward years" (say, 12 to
14), shopping mainly at an awful Canadian chain called Cotton Ginny. I would
never step into it now, but at the time it was all pink, purple and green ugly
logo t-shirts (they had new ones all the time...it was a status thing), big
ugly shorts...anything from there. Thank the goddess I improved by high
school, though I was still not what I am now...which of course is a fashion
queen to be admired and desired. ;)
Biggest mistake would have to be the Sun-In used the summer before grade 9. I
thought it looked good at the time, but looking back, I see it was a hideous
orange blonde. That was the beginning of my hairdying life...9 years ago,
sheesh.
Jen
1) in the 13-14 year old range thinking that big ugly 70's shirts or work
shirts with name tags ont hem were cool. Then getting into gothy dressing
more and slapping terible death type eyeliner on but still not losing the
shirts.
2) these horrid bruise colored tye dyed stocking I wore that I later relized
made me look like a battered woman.
3) In the teen years dyeing my hair horrid bleached blond and putting old
lady pink and silver rinse in it. *eek*
4)horrible fredricks corsets.
*bounce*
Batty
My biggest mistake? Probably my hole filled tights (tacky) and my horrible
baggy sweaters (remember the 80's). Clothes didn't fit me well anyway and
sweaters were supposed to be big back then, but when you barely weight 100
lbs...Eeeek! "Look at that tiny head sticking out of that sweater!" There
are also some sunglasses that I should have never purchased...
I was lucky, my parents never bought me clothes so I never got to make that
many mistakes. Christmas was a nightmare though. We should have a thread
on bad gift clothing...
The Dominatrix Extraordinaire
Hard to say -- I like all my mistakes! They're such fun to laugh at, I
even put some on my website.
My hair in high school was pretty f*cked up, sometimes in good ways,
usually in bad. I learned the hard way that when I have short hair, I end
up looking like Paul McCartney. That wouldn't be so bad 'cept I was always
a Lennon girl at heart. So I can never cut my hair short again (this
happened on three distinct occasions, w/three different haircuts -- and I
still looked like Paul).
Then, starting in my jr. yr., I discovered Big Hair(tm). Now, I love Big
Hair still, and prob. always will. But it *is* possible to do Big Hair
poorly (for example, it looks dorky to have Big Hair bigger in the back
than on the top) and to pair it with the entirely wrong outfit (like, say,
a preppy buttondown shirt, crew neck sweater, & levis 501s).
It also took me a looooooong time to figure out how to put on foundation
makeup properly. I used to always get my face shades paler than my neck.
So I basically stopped wearing foundation till 5yrs ago that a friend who
does drag showed me how to do it properly.
And for most of my life, up until college, I had a parade of pretty ugly
glasses frames (and not 'ugly in an ironically hip way' either).
--T.
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Okey, I have to share:
The one time I ever saw good whiteface!
Picture a Teeny Skinee Old-School Goth Boi--about 5'5", fine-boned, the
works. Short spikey dyed black hair, very cute, tends to dress in
jeans'n'tshirt but gothed up--like a rat-tail skirt over jeans. See?
Very cool boi.
He came to the club in whiteface one day. Absolutely perfect
application, looked translucent as china. He drew little eyeliner
squiggles like locks of hair down his cheek and on his forehead.
But what made it *perfect*....was that he used blush. Pale pink blush.
So that it looked perfectly natural.
*sigh*
:)
so, it CAN be done, and with impeccable style.
Basinke
Iikeheaven wrote:
> total fashion "oops!", and only realize when we look back on it, see pics from
> back then, or notice someone committing the same faux pas. So what's been your
> biggest fashion mistake?
On the whole I've done pretty well since reaching puberty---there are even things
that I bought when I was 13 or 14 and still wear. But there is a pair of
acid-washed, glow-in-the-dark jeans that I'd really like to forget, ditto Shirley
Temple curls( bad idea if you've got a round face---you look like Miss Piggy that
way).
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Batty Boop wrote:
> Then getting into gothy dressing
> more and slapping terible death type eyeliner on but still not losing the
> shirts.
On a related note, what was the dumbest affectation you had whilst still a
clueless babygoth? I'm sure we all had a few of those. In my case, it was
feigning deafness so as not to have to admit ignorance of prestigiously obscure
bands.
Trystan L. Bass wrote:
> poorly (for example, it looks dorky to have Big Hair bigger in the back
> than on the top) and to pair it with the entirely wrong outfit (like, say,
> a preppy buttondown shirt, crew neck sweater, & levis 501s).
Sounds like Robert Smith....Then again, he can't apply lipstick, either...
my biggest fashion mistakes? i know i am close to one-lining this
but...
1984 [1], 1988 [2] and 1991 [3].
miss alexandra
[1] a young go-go shirted flouro belt wielding infant
[2] there is no excuse for marble wash denim
[3] remember the film clip for The Beloveds 'Hello'? or Carters
'Bloodsports for all'? think hooded tops...hotpants...docs...you can
take the girl out of the jesus jones t-shirt but.....
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hun-nees
i have one thing to say
1987: fluoro coloured clothes. pants. shirts. polos. socks.
all_different_fluoro_colours.
*ashamed*
prince scotty
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they don't call us hetero-sapiens.
ahem...baring my soul (and pride)...
-first er, "attempt" at eye makeup consisted of smears of black lipstick around
the eye, which didn't even show up black, but an ugly grey. It wasn't a good
sign that I was repeatedly asked, "oh my god, what happened to your eyes?!"
-lines around the eyes, raggedy-anne style...except my lines were thick, ugly,
and unsteady.
-black lipstick, hell any lipstick with a flushed face. I still have this
problem, though I just bought some better powder than the crap I used to use,
so maybe I'll get somewhere.
-two words: the Crow. worse, no foundation. First time out of boredom and
being witnessed thankfully by only three people....second time by plead of a
long-distance friend. I unfortunately have given her blackmail material =)
Blah... I'm still trying to forget what I looked like when I first got into
goth. Technically, I'm still very much a mistake in makeup. But I'm getting
there...
Akane
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Forget good whiteface; i have to say, i actually get a kick out of ppl
who can pull off *bad* whiteface. Like Nik Fiend[1]. It's rare that
someone has that crypt-kicking attitude such that it works tho'. The
Brickbats do rather well.
[1] I used to date a boi who did "good" whiteface... He'd go to bed
drunk w/o taking off his makeup sometimes, tho', so i used to joke w/him
about "I went to bed w/Johnny Slut & woke up w/Nik Fiend!"
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good whiteface is an oxymoron...like jumbo shrimp. *smirk*
-jamie
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Read the thread next time Miss Smug.
And spare us your oh-so-clever banter.
Basinke
very, very not in the mood to be called a fool.
Um, who said that?
Jen
(confused)
>So what's been your
>biggest fashion mistake?
Eep. Spandex (age 11-12), a perm, whiteface, fangs (good for Halloween
only and hey I was 16 - 5 years ago!), no eyebrows, short hair.
-Opium
Opium Poppy Fields
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22 of goth.
Perhaps my worst was sporting a tweed jacket all through my year at Cambridge -
I thought it made me look interesting. I looked like a total prat, and I have
the pictures to prove it. My mother forced me to get it drycleaned at one
point, and the colour changed completely.
elsworth
Ooo look at me! I'm a witch! I am so mystical and spooky!
-Nicole
Oh, there was also my hideous poodle perm right around the same time period.
And I think at one point during my Junior High years I was guilty of wearing
blue eyeliner. Actually, I remember a time a friend of mine made me up in
about 6th grade. It was the first time I'd worn makeup, so I thought I
looked really cool, but it was something like blue eyeshadow and *lots* of
really pink blush- there's still a picture of it somewhere. I think I was
also wearing a light blue tank top that showed my belly at the time and had
my hair all pulled to one side of my head and had big plastic earrings on.
Come to think of it, I had quite the collection of plastic earrings.
Oh, and there was also the time I dressed up like Madonna with a piece of lace
in my hair and a hot pink crop top and drew on a mole!
I was such a child of the 80's. ;)
~Evi
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Egad! It had to be when I made a crochet
dress to where to this kmdfm show on Halloween a few years back and after the
show we met Ogre and my husband took a picture of us, and when we got the
photos back, you could see my granny underwear, and my garter belt (which
needed to be adjusted), and the dress was clinging to my tummy and made my
already big breasts look like they were hanging to my knees and not to mention
you could see every stinking detail of my bra. grrrrr....NOBODY saw those
pictures, and I stayed home for nearly a month to sulk!
....lisa
(who has recently salvaged the fragments of her life and is forming them into
something wonderful...stay tuned for the website)
OK, not counting anything beyond my control --the f@cking horrible perm--"oh,
it's just a body perm, you won't have curly hair"--yeah RIGHT--my mum talked me
into during early adolescence, the baggy Esprit, Generra, etc outfits[1] I wore
before I learned that brand name does not equal stylish...
Like someone else mentioned, I had a terrible Sun-In incident that ruined my
hair for longer than I want to think about. Highlights? Ha...my hair was more
like orangey-brown straw.
Let's see...ultratight miniskirts at work. I wore a tight black minidress (the
kind you have to keep pulling down) to go to a production of "Jesus Christ
Superstar" with some friends once. Don't ask me *what* I was thinking.
Turquoise "Blooming Colours" mascara. Flannel shirts.
.
Oh, and when I was around 14-15 (when I first "turned goth"), I hadn't figured
out that not all black clothes actually match. This was also the year I decided
to get an asymmetrical haircut with half of my head shaved...not only did it
look idiotic on me, but I tried to do the touchups myself. <shudder> I'd
totally forgotten about that until now...
[1]--I remember in junior high, everyone would put up the brand-name tags off
their clothing in their lockers--the more Esprit, Guess, Generra, Forenza &
Outback Red tags you had, the cooler you obviously were...did everyone do this,
or was my school just particularly trend-damaged?
~Lorelei~
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>> On a related note, what was the dumbest affectation you had whilst still a
>> clueless babygoth?
I spent so much time clutching a cape about my shoulders...broken
clasp...as a teen that I started walking with my hands up even without
the cape...imagine a gothic prairie dog ... gigglesnort
Eloradana
Okay look.
"Ether" left mine and Ladybee's names up there while snipping our
content, then sat there SMIRKING and saying in a terribly clever manner
that there IS no good whiteface--obviously we must be brain-damaged for
thinking it's possible.
So I'm calling her a smarmy bitch, and I'll stick with that.
Basinke
1980-1986 the early teen years...
Floral jeans
lacey socks with white high heels.
parting straight brown hair in the middle
acid wash pinstripe jeans (oh that one hurt to write)
light blue and green eyeshadow
Loves baby soft perfume
I still am proud that I had the huge silver belts and the fact that I
never owned neon.
1986-1992
wearing 5 colors of kohl eyeliner at once.
(black, navy, blue, burgundy, white. sigh)
fedoras with veil hatbands
black 50's sportcoat with everything and a pocket square out an old
stocking- ok with most things, but not everything.
black cloak on college campus
boots all year round. Kansas is hot.
tacky gold smoking jacket, clashes with everything. I still love it.
entire outfits in exactly the dame shade of green, rust or burgundy.
whew, better stop while I still have self esteem...
--Yosa
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Ummm... let's see. I had bad eyeliner... the Ben Nye cake stuff, it flakes,
and I would draw designs with it. I used whiteface a few times, but really
didn't like the look or the amount of coverage it required. My first few
clubbing outfits were embarrassing to me but not too horrible overall. I
thought Patricia Morrison (SOM, Damned, etc) was the same as Patricia
Kenneally-Morrison (author, Jim Morrison's widow, etc). I wasn't too affected
overall, but it did take a while to get "the look" together.
frogs and fishes from Thessaly
(and then there was that whole incident where I sat in my room for 3 days
straight reading Tim Powers books with the same three cocteau twins cds on
endless repeat, only coming out for food and to glare at family...)
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>Okay look.
>"Ether" left mine and Ladybee's names up there while snipping our
>content, then sat there SMIRKING and saying in a terribly clever manner
>that there IS no good whiteface--obviously we must be brain-damaged for
>thinking it's possible.
I got the impression she was joking around...oh well. As for leaving your
names up there, I don't see how she was insulting you...I just thought she
left confusing headers up, as people sometimes do around here. I never got
the impression she was trying to insult anyone, just voice her opinion.
>So I'm calling her a smarmy bitch, and I'll stick with that.
Fine, but I didn't see her specifically calling you names anywhere, and I
think you're taking this much too personally. But it's your choice.
Jen
Ummm... junior high and some of high school?
It's easier for me to think of outfits I wore that were cool, because there
were so few that they STOOD OUT. For instance, I remember one day that was a
total goth-out in 8th grade, but my friends made fun of me... long black
skirt, witchy boots, black tights, black satin camisole under very sheer
indian cotton shirt in a deep nile blue with metallic threads running through
it, cinched with a wide black belt, circa 1989 or 90.
I still have articles of clothing from back when that I like, but I'd never
combine them in the same ways. Like... I have this gorgeous, flowy,
round-necked scarlet silk blouse, and I used to wear it with jeans that had a
very high waist (like, a 6" waistband) and a thick black belt with a silver
buckle. In 7th grade, I mostly wore black when I wasn't wearing jeans - and I
had a perm and pale blonde highlights - and I'd wear a straight black pencil
skirt with a Def Leppard or Poison tshirt and brown flats. etc ad naus. ugh.
I had a black cotton sweater with metal buttons on the shoulder,
military-style, which I still have, and which I sometimes wore with the
aforementioned pencil skirt and a phantom-esque mask pin (which were VERY
hard to come by back then).
OTOH, I had shoes I loved... black shiny pointy-toe shoes that looked like
jazz oxfords and were tied with either black satin or black chiffon ribbons.
I had one pair that had a really interesting way of lacing and no tongue, and
then I had another pair that were pvc and more normal-looking but still had
the interesting ties.
frogs and fishes from Thessaly
I just remembered mine!
1989, first year of university. I owned a pair of cotton drawstring
pants with BRIGHT vertical red and white stripes. And I had a
matching cotton top.
I hurt my own eyes!
My friends all asked me what I was thinking. I figured I looked like
a hyperkinetic barber pole.
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It's hard to nail down to just one. In Jr. High I was such an odd kid I
went through a bunch of short clothing phases, including one with a camo
baseball cap and a matching waist length denim jacket. In high school I
was a complete clothing slob for the most part, cuz I was a heavy metal
wannabe but too out of it to care about fashion. I remember one outfit
(I wore often, even shortly out of high school) was
a full body leotard in shiny blue spandex, ripped to hell blue denim
shorts, a faded and usually wrinkled big cotton blue shirt thrown over
left open, and usually my blue suede airwalk hightops. They had white
clouds across the sides.
-Marjorie, mystified by myself
>On a related note, what was the dumbest affectation you had whilst still a
>clueless babygoth?
Erk! This brings into play all those pre-16 things I odmitted.
It has to be hair again, I reckon. Suffice to say that back in
school I very often couldn't see out. Luckily I have *no* idea what
I looked like, as the reflection in the mirror was also hidden by
my extreme backcombing skills, and my darling parents chose not to
immortalise me on film (heavens knows why!) :)
Combine this with hand covering holey black jumpers that would be
rescued from the washing basket before they reached the maw of the
cleaning demon, and a generally droopy and disaffected air.
Let's face it - I was one big dumb affection, bless my little black
cotton socks!
that's all I can remeber - though I went through some not so great trends I
didn't look to bad wearing some of it - like my hippie stage.
Lilly
*smirking*
*smirking*
Smirking is inherently insulting.
If she didn't mean it, then she's a fool for not knowing what she said.
Basinke
getting bitched out left and right for being forthright and steadfast
> The "Trends that make me go Ick" thread got me thinking about this. Sure,
> we
> all fall for a trend or two once in a while, or maybe just something that
> was a
> total fashion "oops!", and only realize when we look back on it, see pics
> from
> back then, or notice someone committing the same faux pas. So what's been
> your
> biggest fashion mistake?
oh my! from age 10 to age 16...
but the things that stand out most in my mind are:
9th grade, 1988: being completely obsessed with "heavy metal"
TIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT acid wash jeans. Black t-shirt after black t-shirt...mostly
band shirts...
permed hair with a big POOF of bangs as high as i could get them....
kohl lined eyes...(on the inside lid, makes my eyes look very squinty and
"pig-ish")
10th grade, 1989: having grown out of my heavy metal phase to an extent, i
thought it'd be "cool" to dress like a cholo...spawned by the fact i was in
"love" with mike muir from suicidal tendencies.
So i wore the chinos..i wore the white t-shirt with the plad shirt over ,
buttoned at the top. very very shiny doc martins, bandanna...*shakes head*.
And it's even more rediculous because where i grew up and went to school is
a very "whitebread" sort of upper middle class town. My graduating class was
all white, so we weren't really exposed to many race issues at all. Sad,
really. anywho..
*shakes head at self*
imacolata
Oh yesssss....I see....I DROOL!!! My area has a complete lack of Gothbois.
*sniff* i need a gothboi!!!
~Mango *sniff*
>*smirking*
>*smirking*
>Smirking is inherently insulting.
>
>If she didn't mean it, then she's a fool for not knowing what she said.
If anyone should be insulted here, it's people who do whiteface.
Jen
>The "Trends that make me go Ick" thread got me thinking about this. Sure, we
>all fall for a trend or two once in a while, or maybe just something that was a
>total fashion "oops!", and only realize when we look back on it, see pics from
>back then, or notice someone committing the same faux pas. So what's been your
>biggest fashion mistake?
<snip>
I have never, ever made a fashion mistake in my life. I was
born with perfect style ;)
*ahem* Ok, so I'm lying through my teeth. However, I really
can't think of much, because I've made an effort to block most of it
out. All I really remember is wearing orange shirts, which is a bad
color for me, and wearing jeans & T-shirts too much at some points in
my life.
Ismene
Sixth grade, 1985-86:
I had been given a flourescent orange top with a big white button on it
and matching black and neon orange striped socks. Yes, I wore them. No,
neon orange is *not* my colour! teehee. Also did the sun-in thing at the
end of eighth grade. I've seen a photo of myself from that time: just
above shoulder lenghth brassy yellow hair, and I'm wearing one of those
puffy sweatshirt type thing (anyone remember those) with teal and white
*horizontal* stripes. Bad, bad idea.
Angldst
DC sewingoth.
Angel Dust wrote in message ...
>Sixth grade, 1985-86:
>
>I had been given a flourescent orange top with a big white button on it
>and matching black and neon orange striped socks. Yes, I wore them.
Frighteningly enough, I think I had that shirt's evil twin. Fraternal
twin, 'cause mine was this yellow-green color. Right around the same year,
too. I didn't have the socks, though.
Yes, I wore the shirt. I also had this red inside-out sweatchirt thing
with little metal bits on it, very, very eighties. The trouble was always
that I got these clothes as a hand-me-down. As if they weren't bad enough
while actually trendy, I was wearing them a couple years *later*.
-- Bex, shuddering
"...wear your butterflies with pride." -- Tori Amos
reply to: antiopa (at) grex (dot) cyberspace (dot) org
Synn
Who has better fashion sense now, and prefers big pigtails to big bangs...
Sabra
My 70's "shag" haircut...(my hair is way too fine and oily to do that! for proof,
go to the website and check out "who we are"...<btw, for those who don't get my
"humor" [that would be most people, which is why I'm not headlining at our local
"Jokers"] the accompanying text is meant as a joke...I really don't think Elton
John started Goth!>...
Next to that, my first day at Sterling High School in 1971...mind you, the *other*
students were dressed in near-Dolly Parton country frills (without the scoops &
cleavage)...
...I walked into the classroom wearing my brown polyester miniskirt with 2 inch
white polkadots...the longsleeved brown polyester blouse that matched, with white
topstitching...lime green fishnet hose, and white cork platform soled sandals with
big brass "brads" on them...and carrying my checkerboard suede fringed bag...my
hair was shoulder length, "flipped", with bangs...and I was wearing white nail
polish and lipstick.
That day I was whisked to the principal's office for dress code violations AND
asked out by four boys in the class.
(I really wish I still had that outfit though!)
Kath
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"I have been invisible/ weird and supernatural./ I want my black
dress./ I want my hair/ curling wild around me."
-"Witch", Jean Tepperman
Junior high through freshman year in HS (late 80's):
~pastel plaid short-sleeved button-up shirts, usually worn under pastel
sleeveless sweaters.
~knee-length white skirt w/ large black polka dots, worn w/ an oversized,
shapeless white jackety-thing w/ large *red* polka dots, & a big white belt w/
red polka dots & a big bow in front. I've still got the skirt... thinking
about resurrecting it w/ a crinoline for that Strawberry Switchblade look. :}
~I went through a phase where I decided that I *needed* a hairstyle other than
long & wavy, but was too chicken to cut it. Every day, I brushed my hair over
to the right side of my head so that it obscured my vision, then applied
copious amounts of White Rain mousse to the left side. Nobody told me that you
should brush mousse after it dries, so I walked around w/ half of my hair all
crispy & greasy looking. :P
~The shooooooeesss! A never-ending succession of Payless boots. You know the
type: cheap "leather", calf or knee-high, often white, w/ strange additions of
fringe or dangly bead things.
Sophmore year HS ('90):
By this time, I became pretty firmly entrenched in the Metal head aesthetic.
Not the metal babe, aesthetic, mind: I wore jeans, t-shirts, & white tennis
shoes, no makeup, no hairstyle to speak of (& my hair was still a natural dirty
blonde. Spew.) On top of that, though, I *always* wore a denim jacket w/ the
sleeves cut off w/ a Metallica backpatch, & a big purple fedora-type hat
('member the hat the Joker wore in the first Batman movie? Like that.
Licensed Batman merchandise, even).
Late HS/ college (early '90's)
This is when I started gothing out. Clothes weren't too bad, but the *makeup*!
Ye gods: I'd wear cheap kohl eyeliner all the way around my eyes in a thick,
un-blended line w/ pointy tips (I read a lot of Sandman). Full clubbing makeup
consisted of Coty airspun powder (which made my dry, flaky, uncared-for skin
look particularly unhealthy & reptilian), WnW RED lipstick, Hallowe'en glitter
gel on my cheekbones, & the aforementioned eyeliner. No foundation, no
mascara, no eybrows, no lipliner... Fech.
Memorieeeesss...
^v^ Abracadaver ^v^
Occaisionally I'm callous & strange.
Napalm Tree http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/NapalmTree
GlitterGoth 101 http://members.tripod.com/~Abracadaver
-Flourescent pink dress when I was around 12 yrs old or so.
-Wearing jeans cut off at the knee with stockings underneath my entire freshman
yaer of highschool. I mean, I'd wear dark purple shorts with black lace
stockings. Now I wouldn't wear anything remotely pant-like if you paid me. It
just looked *wrong*.
-Also in 8th grade I only wore eyeliner on the bottom of my eyes. Errr.
-Poison, Whitesnake etc.. T-shirts in my catholic school days with obnoxious
hoop earrings as big as I could get them and shredded acid-wash jeans.
I'm starting to scare myself here.
Dear Alt.Gothic.Fasion, I've come to ask for forgiveness for my
fashion blunders.
1. Sun-In. 7th grade throught 9th grade. Ick.
2. Two-toned Reebok high-tops (mint and green) with mint skirt and
green sweatshirt. (ow! the mid-80s were rough).
3. Black hair that I tried to bleach to red and ended orange roots
and black ends. (11th grade)
4. After getting #3 fixed, dyed it back to black. Then got a perm.
Don't ask me why. I have naturally wavy/curly hair. I ended up with
the tightest kink-perm ever. Lived with it for six months (but it
wasn't growing out for crud) went to my hairdresser begging for
forgiveness - I'd gone to my mom's hairdresser for the perm. He
laughed at me and basically said "It's getting buzzed". Got the 1/2
inch buzz hair in my senior year. Grew quite nicely after that...
5. Tight stretchy tops from Express (circa 1990-1991) with big
skirts. Voluptugoths should approach this look with caution.
6. White v-neck tshirts with long baggy skirts. All the time.
7. Slacker blunder (1994): net.goth t-shirt, long black skirt, black
tights, cardgan sweater (hunter green and burgundy), and black
birkenstocks. I looked like hell, but I was really really comfy.
8. Ooh! Black frilly blouse, jean shorts, fishnets, and docs.
*wow* That's really really icky.
I'll have to go sit in the corner and stroke all my velvet stuff now.
love and barbed-wire kisses,
Heather
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http://www.melodrama.org
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"this is how the end always ends.." - cure
The Dominatrix Extraordinaire, who finally saw someone that knew proper
whiteface does not consist of that greasy Halloween makeup...
I have a white face. I do a white face but to go with that white face I also
have white breast ,feet and the rest of my body. So to me it is not white face
its picking a tone closest to my natural one.
With all make-up it needs to be blended. It looks good only on those with light
skin. It should not look heavy or mask like.
I use Monster Make-up foundation it is sheer and blendable. That is over a thin
layer of green correct bace to get rid of the red tones around my nose. Then I
finish it all off with a light dusting of Morbid white powder. I DO NOT use
cheap halloween make-up that just looks goofy and goopy.
the gothic princess<kendy>
(Steal the tiara from my head to reply.)
>>If anyone should be insulted here, it's people who do whiteface.
>>
>Not if you do it well.
>
>The Dominatrix Extraordinaire, who finally saw someone that knew proper
>whiteface does not consist of that greasy Halloween makeup...
>
I'm curious, do you know what kind of makeup they were using? The only
whiteface I've ever seen was the cheezy hot topic stuff, and clown makeup,
pretty much. Does anybody have any GOOD tips of how to do whiteface the right
way, without looking like an idiot perhaps? It would be much appreciated, just
for further reference in the fashion files that are my brain. =) Thanks in
advance.
Gothae Cassus Livor
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>I have a white face. I do a white face but to go with that white face I also
>have white breast ,feet and the rest of my body.
I dunno about everyone else, but in my world "whiteface" pretty much applies
only to the stylized use of makeup markedly paler than your natural skin-tone
(kinda like the blackface that the minstrels wore back in the day).
So, basically, if your skin is actually white, your makeup is white, not
whiteface. :}
Drooling over the Star Wars spread in Vogue & wondering how stupid I'd look w/
Queen Amidala's makeup...
> Does anybody have any GOOD tips of how to do whiteface the right
>way, without looking like an idiot perhaps?
1) use the right makeup. Cookie Puss' liquid foundation in Sheet of Paper goes
on reasonably well, but I've never actually done anything more than play w/ it
in the house so I haven't the slightest idea how it wears. Joe Blasco has a
line of cream foundations that most costume shops carry that include several
good white shades (I like TV white because while it looks white on your face,
it's actually *very* pale skin-tone, so it's not quite as shocking as WHITE
makeup.)
2) Make sure that every inch of exposed flesh is covered w/ makeup to match
your face. Some people can also pull of the mask-like line of makeup
demarcation at their jaw-line, but that's iffy. I've *never* seen anyone
successfully blend whiteface into bare flesh-toned neck/chest.
Overall I find it a lot less hassle to just go w/ foundation that actually
matches my skin, maybe w/ slightly paler powder. :}
> I'm curious, do you know what kind of makeup they were using? The only
> whiteface I've ever seen was the cheezy hot topic stuff, and clown makeup,
> pretty much. Does anybody have any GOOD tips of how to do whiteface the right
> way, without looking like an idiot perhaps? It would be much appreciated, just
> for further reference in the fashion files that are my brain. =) Thanks in
> advance.
>
I've had good luck with Ben Nyes cream foundation in Geisha. It is not
truly white, but rather a very ethereally pale fleshtone. I have very
fair, translucent skin, and this foundation is a good match, yet pale
enough beyond my skintone to create that lovely, chinadoll, otherworldly
look. Ben Nye stuff is available at most good costume/theatrical/dance
supply shops, and it's not terribly expensive.
Now, I've got horribly sensitive skin, yet, strangely enough, the Ben Nye
stuff doesn't upset my skin overmuch. As long as I take it off as soon as
I get home and use my moisturiser religously, I don't have a problem with
it. I heartily recommend their full line of stuff. I have a cake
foundation called "Blue Spirit" and if you want white pale look, this is
the stuff to use. It can be tricky though, you have to use water and
sponge, etc.
Their Black Cherry lippie rawks, too, but that's for another post!
Angldst
DC sewingoth who was very pleased w/ the way her makeup turned out for the
Creatures show on Saturday night, but was too zonked on Benadryl (evil
pollen) to really have a great time.
I would suspect that staying away from completely white foundation would be
a good start, instead choosing something with the same undertones as your
skin, just a shade fof of white. Secondly, someone posted that they knew a
boy who could do good whiteface, who used blush, and I think that'd
defiantely be good, because people tend to look funny with no colour in
their face. And, blend blend blend...
Well it does not need to be blush. I like my pale skin to show.
I do use black lipstick and a dark red or purple shadow to create a balance. I
think you need to wear a dark lipstick with
pale/white or white face to not looked washed away. A sheer lipstick will not
cut it.
Blending is and should be the #1 step in all foundation and powders. It makes a
huge difference.
*now my lil tips on getting a even good pale effect*
-Use a green correct base (like body shop) in red areas like around your nose.
-Use a sheer white foundation like Monster . It is the only foundation that
matches my skin tone . It is easy to blend. Blend it with your fingers since
body heat helps even things out. Monster is sold at HT in my parts but Im sure
it is sold at other stores. The cost is about $8 a bottle.
-Then use a shiny white powder like Morbid or Manic Panic
and run a powder puff coated with powder down your nose and over cheeks. Then
powder the rest of your face. The cheeks and nose is the most important since I
found it that powder likes to collect there first.
-Then whith a q-tip or a clean pointer finger kinda blend the powder around the
creases of your nose. It will collect there.
Also swipe a coat of powder over your eye-lids. It will give you a nice base to
create your eye make-up on.
When she mentioned this I though of the historical whiteface, which had a
more powdered look. I think the key is to use real theatrical makeup and
have a clue. Powder might help too, but I could see it getting clumpy and
dry.
And, blend blend blend...
>
Amen to that. You wouldn't believe how many times I want to yell that at
people I see. It's mostly to those women who wear darker foundations with
pale skins. It just looks like mask either way...
The Dominatrix Extraordinaire
I've never seen _anyone_ look good with a completely white face. it just
looks crap, IMO, and you have no chance of blending it at the edges. it
needs to be really thick -> clogged pores. It will fall off when you
sweat. Plus, it will mess with stuff like liquid eyeliner.
That said, you can get very very close to white and still look really
good if you know what you're doing. I guess it depends on your natural
features/skin colour as to what is the best way. The absolute best
advice I can give, is to hunt down a good _professional_ makeup supply
shop in your area, (they will have as good if not better quality
products as the department stores, only much cheaper and in a wider
range of colours) go there and ask the staff about what they have, tell
them what you want to achieve, buy some stuff and EXPERIMENT!!!!
> The Dominatrix Extraordinaire, who finally saw someone that knew proper
> whiteface does not consist of that greasy Halloween makeup...
well to get your face totally white, you really need that greasy gunk
because anything thinner will let the colour of your face through!!!
julian
(pale but not white)
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>The "Trends that make me go Ick" thread got me thinking about this. Sure, we
>all fall for a trend or two once in a while, or maybe just something that was a
>total fashion "oops!", and only realize when we look back on it, see pics from
>back then, or notice someone committing the same faux pas. So what's been your
>biggest fashion mistake?
At Whitby, someone showed me a picture of me in a cloak and a t-shirt.
I had blanked all recollection of this from my memory.
I will atone. Somehow.
LBRH
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>Does anybody have any GOOD tips of how to do whiteface the right
>way, without looking like an idiot perhaps?
I'm naturally very pale. I don't know your skin tone, so my advice
may not work for you. As always, YMMV.
For an even shade that's slightly lighter than my natural colour (pure
*white* whiteface doesn't look good on anyone except for kabuki and
mimes, IMO), I first put a layer of my foundation/power combo. Then I
put on a layer of Manic Panic "Virgin" powder. They blend well, and
it makes a shade about a shade or two lighter than my face.
Good luck!
=Narnia=
http://www.velvet.net
I am reminded of a webpage I read recently talking about
Elizabethan makeup. A very pale, translucent, china-doll type face
was desireable then, and sometimes people would actually go to the
point of painting in veins and the like to acheive the proper look.
I think this is somewhat the same idea- You don't want to look
clown-white. You want to look massively *pale* (to the point that it
looks white in contrast to other things.) The way to acheive that
is to work with your own skin tone, and natural skin colouring.
This gets the pale effect without screaming "i just slapped on the
white greasepaint I had left over from halloween." (Adding blush,
for example, keeps some of the natural tones, so it makes the
entire look more natural, I would imagine. Whiteface of any
sort with racing-stripe style bright blush I can't picture... I'm
assuming a natural or neutral blush, applied lightly.)
Similarly, I think you'd have to be careful about using
brightbright or dark colours with whiteface. Some work, some
don't. (I think, for example, and htis is just my opinion, that
you *really* have to work to pull off a monochrome look. Black
lipstick/black eyeliner/black eyeshadow on a very pale face could
look very good, but I think this might be a case where you'd want
to use a pale blush to soften the overall effect just enough.)
One other poster suggested a colour corrector- Ime they
do a *lot* to lighten up the appearance of your overall skin
tone. Just using one under a foundation that matches your skin tone
(blended properly of course) can have surprising results.
-The quiet one
(Who has naturally *very* pale skin wher her skin is actually
behaving itself. Pale skin + blond hair + blue/grey eyes = Someone put
some colour in *somewhere*, please!)
<sigh> I have so many. :) Feathered haircuts, blue eyeshadow and frosty
pink lipstick with super-shiny gloss is probably the biggest one, but it was
the end of the disco era and that *was* fashionable. I'd already been
steered away from the dark "disco-diva" look (a precursor to gothiness), so I
had to look at what else was fashionable, and I was too young to know yet
what looked good. (For the record, I will *never* layer my hair again. Not
for any reason whatsoever.) This, however, is the only complete *phase* of my
fashion life that I'm embarassed by wholesale, and that's because I just
think the '70s (and the very beginning of the '80s) was the ugliest decade
for fashion *ever*.
One particular outfit from high school stands out screaming in my mind, and
it was during my New Wave phase, senior year. I tried too hard to achieve
the punky soft/hard combination. It consisted of one of my stepfather's old
olive-green Army shirts, a white satin mini (originally made for a costume)
with a matching sash over the shirt, little black suede "elf boots" with
<uurrghhh> flesh-colored nylons, and dark gray-purple lippie, eyes and
cheeks. It might have looked somewhat better with black tights, but in
general it just flat didn't work, and numerous people thought I was wearing a
slip (a member of the faculty requested that I not wear that particular item
of clothing again, though I didn't actually get into trouble).
I'm sure I have committed countless other sins; fortunately most of them have
been wiped from my memory. :) And like Trystan, I'm rather fond of some
them, and want to get them up on my website. Wait till you see my 9th-grade
prom picture, which features *every* sin mentioned in the first paragraph,
plus ugly glasses and a fluffy pastel dress to boot.
Ice Princess
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