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GUESS I'm Not Goth ??: Advice Needed !!

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NiteLegion

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May 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/9/97
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A distant voice from the Darkness requests Gothic wisdom,

At a club last night some little kid posing as a Gothic elitist had the
nerve to tell me that my black GUESS jeans "Aren't Gothic" !!

At first I was tempted to rip his throat out and prove him wrong, then
I thought.......Maybe he is right ???

I usually don't get to hung up on purposely portraying my dark side,
I am goth to myself..... which is all that really matters. But I can
see how I might be confused with someone from B.H. 90210 (at least
from the waist down).

If GUESS aren't gothic I think I have to also rule out Levis and Calvin
Kliens. As such, I pose the question ---- "What black denim is a tight
butt Goth Guy to wear ???" Appreciate any advice (or flaming if so
justified).

(By the way, I ripped the little kids' throat out anyway. Oh....,how
the young ones are so much tastier).

NL

"I am called Legion, for we are many"

Lord Phoenix

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May 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/10/97
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In article <337416...@flash.net>, NiteLegion <bigm...@flash.net> wrote:
> If GUESS aren't gothic I think I have to also rule out Levis and Calvin
> Kliens. As such, I pose the question ---- "What black denim is a tight
> butt Goth Guy to wear ???" Appreciate any advice (or flaming if so
> justified).

Funk dat!
Levis rule for the tight butt goth guy.

If it's comfy and you like it, then wear it.
The only question is do you feel like paying for the name on them...

Lord Phoenix

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But who regards himself as the world may accept the world.
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Individuation

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May 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/10/97
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where whatever the hell you want.
if this little buttfuck had the power to make you question youself...
I worry for you.
black jeans are black jeans.
the end.

Eileen

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Christabel La Motte

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May 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/11/97
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In article <netwkman-ya0240800...@news.cso.uiuc.edu>,
Lord Phoenix wrote:
>
>If it's comfy and you like it, then wear it.

Hear, hear!

>The only question is do you feel like paying for the name on them...

It's not even that much of a matter of choice if you're hard to fit. I'm
perfectly capable of making my own jeans, but they're such boring
utilitarian garments that I don't find it to be worth my time when I
*could* be sewing something *fun*. So I've paid a fair bit of money for
a couple of pairs of Calvin Klein jeans -- not because I'm fond of of the
line, but because after lots of unpleasant jeans-shopping expeditions
I found these to be the only ones that made black boot-cut jeans that
actually FIT me. *grumblesnarf*

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RazorJAK

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May 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/11/97
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In article <337416...@flash.net>,
NiteLegion <bigm...@flash.net> wrote:

> At a club last night some little kid posing as a Gothic elitist had the
> nerve to tell me that my black GUESS jeans "Aren't Gothic" !!

Maybe that's my one benefit of living in an area with such a small goth
population. I don't have to deal with the lil 'gother-than-thou'
bastards. I only have to deal with NoPulse23 ... and I actually enjoy
our conversations (even if she is a lil 'gother-than-thou')

> If GUESS aren't gothic I think I have to also rule out Levis and Calvin
> Kliens. As such, I pose the question ---- "What black denim is a tight
> butt Goth Guy to wear ???" Appreciate any advice (or flaming if so
> justified).

okay now here's the real question? What black denim is a not-so-tight
butt Goth guy to wear ??? answer: Anything he damn well feels like
because any toy-boy who tries to tell him it's not goth to wear faded
ripped jeans on occassion will learn how their PVC pants taste since
they've just been turned into a pretzel!

(Honest, I'm not a violent man ... I just play one in RL ... Tee-Hee)

> (By the way, I ripped the little kids' throat out anyway. Oh....,how
> the young ones are so much tastier).

Yes but if you had left him alive ... you could have had the pleasure of
tormenting him over and over and over and over again
(Muuuu-wha-hahhahahahah)

-=- Cobweb T. RazorJAK -=-

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The Mad Scribbler

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May 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/12/97
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NiteLegion <bigm...@flash.net> gasped frantically:

>At first I was tempted to rip his throat out and prove him wrong, then
>I thought.......Maybe he is right ???

First law of Gothdom: "If you have to ask, you aren't."

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Jane A. Dryden

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May 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/12/97
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The Mad Scribbler (m...@scrib.com) writes:
> NiteLegion <bigm...@flash.net> gasped frantically:
>
>>At first I was tempted to rip his throat out and prove him wrong, then
>>I thought.......Maybe he is right ???
>
> First law of Gothdom: "If you have to ask, you aren't."

*giggle* *shakes hair* Like, ask *what*? *giggle* *flip of blonde hair*


jane, being bored in Ottawa.
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BARRY ROBB

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May 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/15/97
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: > If GUESS aren't gothic I think I have to also rule out Levis and Calvin

: > Kliens. As such, I pose the question ---- "What black denim is a tight
: > butt Goth Guy to wear ???" Appreciate any advice (or flaming if so
: > justified).
:
: Funk dat!

: Levis rule for the tight butt goth guy.
:
: If it's comfy and you like it, then wear it.
: The only question is do you feel like paying for the name on them...

maybe it's just me, but i've found that the black jeans never get as
comfy as the blue jeans. i always figured it was a dye thing, but for
some strange reason, i've never had a pair of black jeans feel as good as
a pair of blue jeans.

barry

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Luluwhite

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May 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/16/97
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Black jeans are just the worst. They just feel plain wrong. Levis 550
LIGHT blue stonewashed all the way- but only when they're on sale- worn
with a Johnny the Homicidal Maniac t shirt.


-Mare
My pain is awesome- anne gwish

UR vacant

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May 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/17/97
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shut the fuck up, what a stupid fucking post....who cares what someone
else thinks.....you sound like you learned about goth through MTV, do your
own thing and fuck the rest of them

BluestRose

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May 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/23/97
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Hey! You don't have to follow what's "in" at Hot Topic to be Goth! Damn
go out and wear a Pooh T-Shirt from Wal-Mart if you feel like it! The kid
that questioned you needs to be tossed in the troll-hole!


Elisabeth

Echo

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May 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/23/97
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Luluwhite <lulu...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970517014...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...

Goff's and blue jeans... hmm... hmm... hmm... nope. i tried, but i cannot
see it
--
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Echo

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May 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/23/97
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wow. i thought we were in a "fashion advise NG" isn't that the point of
this ng? to ask others what they think?

Lisa Hoff

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May 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/23/97
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"Echo" <echod...@wcinet.net> writes:


>Goff's and blue jeans... hmm... hmm... hmm... nope. i tried, but i cannot
>see it

>--
>-Echo (don't send me an angel. I already have one)

I sometimes wear blue jeans....what's the big deal? Yes, mostly to work,
but sometimes out dancing when I don't feel like getting all decked out.
I have a pair that is very light that contrasts with my black shirt and
tuck in beautifully to my knee high boots. Or even my combat boots half
laced. There's just something....comforting...about that one pair of blue
jeans that you've had forever and are broken in and faded just right. I also
sometimes like to wear blue jeans with my black velvet blazer. I like
the clash between elegant and, well, not.

-Wildfire
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things. Give me a good ending any time. || (insert disclaimer here)
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Persephone

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May 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/23/97
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In article <5m4ehj$e...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, l-h...@staff.uiuc.edu (Lisa
Hoff) wrote:

> "Echo" <echod...@wcinet.net> writes:
> >Goff's and blue jeans... hmm... hmm... hmm... nope. i tried, but i cannot
> >see it

>I also sometimes like to wear blue jeans with my black velvet blazer. I like


> the clash between elegant and, well, not.

BLUE JEANS ARE SEXY. <period>

They are and you everyone should realize it. They are sexy.
Worn with velvet they are hot. Worn with white t-shirts and
boots they melt... yummy!

I don't care, jeans are classic, they rock. They are cool.


Persephone.

p.s. girls should wear boys jeans because they hang on
the hip and show some of the stommie and that is very sexy.
I know cuz I got a husband out of this so you can too....

Daednu

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May 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/23/97
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Persephone wrote:
>
> In article <5m4ehj$e...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, l-h...@staff.uiuc.edu (Lisa
> Hoff) wrote:
>
> > "Echo" <echod...@wcinet.net> writes:
> > >Goff's and blue jeans... hmm... hmm... hmm... nope. i tried, but i cannot
> > >see it
>
> >I also sometimes like to wear blue jeans with my black velvet blazer. I like
> > the clash between elegant and, well, not.
>
> BLUE JEANS ARE SEXY. <period>
>
> They are and you everyone should realize it. They are sexy.
> Worn with velvet they are hot. Worn with white t-shirts and
> boots they melt... yummy!
>
> I don't care, jeans are classic, they rock. They are cool.
>

Hmm, interesting that you say this. I find blue jeans very unatractive.
I rank them down there with sneakers, personally. I don't even own a
pair of jeans!!!!

~we've got the kindom, we've got the key~

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Elly Rainbow Burian

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May 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/24/97
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BluestRose (blues...@aol.com) wrote:
: Hey! You don't have to follow what's "in" at Hot Topic to be Goth! Damn

Actually, if you wore what was "in" at Hot Topic right now, you'd
be dressed like a serious hippy or in camouflage. *grins* Trust me, I know.

-eloquence-

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Thessalia

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May 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/25/97
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In article
<Pine.SUN.3.95L.97052...@ciao.cc.columbia.edu>, *
<rl...@columbia.edu> writes:

>On Fri, 23 May 1997, Daednu wrote:
>
>> Hmm, interesting that you say this. I find blue jeans very unatractive.
>> I rank them down there with sneakers, personally. I don't even own a
>> pair of jeans!!!!
>

> Well blue jeans on scary middle aged yuppie men hitting on you are
>pretty gross, but there is something to be said for rockabilly mystique.
I
>sure couldn't see Betty Page dating anything except for some redblooded
>rockabilly greaser boy in blue jeans. You just have to create a paradigm
>shift, you know?

I think it depends on the person. I have a friend whose
girlfriend wears black T-shirts and jeans: she's very young,
and just looks a bit awkward in them, not gothy at all. But
I have another friend who wears dark blue jeans, straight
cut, with black Tshirts (he tends to staple the seams under
the sleeves to get a more stovepiped fit), and looks divine in
them. I guess it depends on how you wear them, and what
you wear them with. I don't wear jeans anymore because
all of my pairs are too small (they are from when I was your
typical highschool nervous wreck who doesn't eat enough),
and I find that I prefer khaki-style pants. A lot of people are
down on chinos, and I admit that I have mine (2 beige, 1navy,
1 black) as work clothes, but you can in a pinch wear chinos
with docs and a black tshirt and not look too uptight. Anyhow,
I'm slender but curvy and I don't find jeans comfortable (fit in
the leg, too small in the butt, ok? :), but I do find chinos in
all sorts of colours comfortable. I would wear jeans again if I
could only find some that fit... :) (help, persephone, help!)

frogs and fishes from Thessaly
who used to love Levi 501 buttonfly women's size 9 *sigh*


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gabriella vervaine

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May 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/25/97
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In article <19970525125...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
thes...@aol.com (Thessalia) wrote:

> I think it depends on the person. I have a friend whose
> girlfriend wears black T-shirts and jeans: she's very young,
> and just looks a bit awkward in them, not gothy at all. But
> I have another friend who wears dark blue jeans, straight
> cut, with black Tshirts (he tends to staple the seams under
> the sleeves to get a more stovepiped fit), and looks divine in
> them. I guess it depends on how you wear them, and what
> you wear them with. I don't wear jeans anymore because
> all of my pairs are too small (they are from when I was your
> typical highschool nervous wreck who doesn't eat enough),
> and I find that I prefer khaki-style pants. A lot of people are
> down on chinos, and I admit that I have mine (2 beige, 1navy,
> 1 black) as work clothes, but you can in a pinch wear chinos
> with docs and a black tshirt and not look too uptight. Anyhow,
> I'm slender but curvy and I don't find jeans comfortable (fit in
> the leg, too small in the butt, ok? :), but I do find chinos in
> all sorts of colours comfortable. I would wear jeans again if I
> could only find some that fit... :) (help, persephone, help!)
>
> frogs and fishes from Thessaly
> who used to love Levi 501 buttonfly women's size 9 *sigh*

I was having a discussion with my SO about this the other day. As for
jeans, I find them great for working around the house, projects, etc. It's
the whole "I'm not leaving my house today, but I want to feel dressed, and
a skirt would get in the way" thing. The color is somwhat irelevant
compared to the fit.
As for pants, men, fashion: I must admit it. I dig the whole
chinos-sweater thing. But it must be done correctly. First, prefferable by
someone who is not american. Second, prefferably v-neck sold print
sweaters. I find the look very elegant, and very comfortable. Very
anti-fashion, if you will.

~gabriella vervaine
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Brunichild

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May 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/26/97
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Persephone wrote:
><snip>
> p.s. girls should wear boys jeans because they hang on
> the hip and show some of the stommie and that is very sexy.
> I know cuz I got a husband out of this so you can too....


& guys jeans are sooo comfy!!! my favs are my black granite cords (so
what if they aren't goth! =P)

Bruni who dates guys so she can stela thier clothing! =)

Southofhvn

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May 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/27/97
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hot topic is a stupid trendy overpriced store.......dont worry about
anything.....wear whatever the fk you want to wear.........

Chris Holliman

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May 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM5/27/97
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>I would wear jeans again if I
> could only find some that fit... :) (help, persephone, help!)
>
> frogs and fishes from Thessaly
> who used to love Levi 501 buttonfly women's size 9 *sigh*

Just wanna say, if you really want to get back into jeans, try many
different brands... each brand cuts their jeans differently, and many
(such as Lee, which I wear) have different lines as well... Being tall
and thin, I have/had a hard time finding the right jeans, but there is
one line of Lee jeans which fits me well (nothing loose, top to
bottom).... anyhow, look around, and good luck! :-)

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