" Goon Show "....................................................( Re: Pes )
patdw...@aol.com
In article <19970324142...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, patdw...@aol.com writes:
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> Well there you have it as we have all heard of
>the Prince of Wales breaking from standard royal fare to choose as his
>teenaged rebellion the famed " Goon Show " who have recently lost one member
>of the gang to Old Father Time but are still close friends with Charles.
>Thank you as I never would have even thought that.
Could you describe the " Goon Show " for those of us not in
the know ? Was it like Monty Python ? And was Peter Sellars ever a regular ?
Patricia
Pamela Gray
patdw...@aol.com wrote:
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> Could you describe the " Goon Show " for those of us not in
> the know ? Was it like Monty Python ? And was Peter Sellars ever a regular ?
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remember if Peter Sellers was on it, although I think not. The "stars"
if you can call them that, were Harry Secombe, Spike Milligan and Michael
Bentine. I think the original nonesense was generated when some or all
of the Goons were prisoners of war. It helped to keep them sane, and
then afterwards, they shared their zany humour with the public. The
humour was more naive than Monty Python, and of course, it wasn't
visual. Some of the characters were Ned Seagoon, Major Bloodnock,
Bluebottle, and Eric Crunn.
Pamela
Pamela Gray
Pamela Gray wrote:
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> I can't quite
> remember if Peter Sellers was on it, although I think not.
I just checked with the almighty spouse, and he maintains that
Peter Sellers was indeed a Goon, and played the role of Eccles.
I'd completely forgotten about Eccles! He probably did Bluebottle
(pronounced "blewn-bon-ten") also.
Pamela
smith.
patdw...@aol.com wrote:
>In article <19970324142...@ladder01.news.aol.com>, patdw...@aol.com writes:
>
>>
>> Well there you have it as we have all heard of
>>the Prince of Wales breaking from standard royal fare to choose as his
>>teenaged rebellion the famed " Goon Show " who have recently lost one member
>>of the gang to Old Father Time but are still close friends with Charles.
>>Thank you as I never would have even thought that.
>
>the know ? Was it like Monty Python ? And was Peter Sellars ever a regular ?
>
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>Yes, I'd like to hear about this "Goon Show" and specifically
the Fred & Gladys characters. Was Gladys played by a man? I always
wondered if GF meant something other than Fred,Gladys..Has anyone
ever seen Peter Sellers in a hilarious movie called "The Party"?
He plays an Indian(India). Oh,it is so funny. Maybe no longer
politically correct but if I were from India,I'd find it funny even.
DSS
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Dale Williams
patdw...@aol.com wrote:
> Could you describe the " Goon Show " for those of us not in
> the know ? Was it like Monty Python ? And was Peter Sellars ever a regular ?
It was nothing like Monty Python, and nothing was ever quite the same
after the Goon Show.
The Goon Show aired between 1948-ish and the mid 1950s as a radio
comedy. Each half-hour episode had one preposterous story with recurring
characters, and was divided by two musical breaks as comedies of those
days often were.
The regulars were: Spike Milligan who wrote the shows along with (in the
early episodes) Michael Bentine (a Peruvian physicist who died last
year), and the actors were Milligan, Bentine (who left the show after a
couple of years), Peter Sellers and Harry Secombe.
Regular characters included Neddy Seagoon (Harry), Major Bloodnock,
Eccles (a sort of idiot savant), Henry and Minnie Crum, Bluebottle, and
a host of others. They specialised in absurd situations, rather knowing
jokes, silly voices, and catchphrases such as "He's fallen in the
water!" , "You can't get the wood, you know", and Seagoon's famous
"Whatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhat?" on a rising inflection of incredulity.
However it's a difficult topic to describe because it went on for so
long, contained so much variety, and so much depended on the voices.
I've seen Spike Milligan on stage and he's one of the funniest men alive
(or dead too). He wrote a number of books and I'm sure your library
would have some. Goon Show has its own web sites too, and I think
there's an al.fan.goon-show site but I've not consulted it.
It was well before Charles's time, but as it's still being rerun
somewhere in the world even as we speak, it's easy to pick up. I heard
it at 1.30am on a local station the other night.
By golly, it was funny. And influential too, - at school, we could all
do all the funny voices. But anyone who continues doing them into adult
life needs his bumps felt.
Cheers
Dale
Pamela Gray
smith. wrote:
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> >
> >Yes, I'd like to hear about this "Goon Show" and specifically
> the Fred & Gladys characters. Was Gladys played by a man? I always
> wondered if GF meant something other than Fred,Gladys..Has anyone
> ever seen Peter Sellers in a hilarious movie called "The Party"?
> He plays an Indian(India). Oh,it is so funny. Maybe no longer
> politically correct but if I were from India,I'd find it funny even.
> DSS
> >
All the Goons were men. I don't really remember too much about
the show. Maybe it's worth getting the BBC tapes. I think they're
commercially available. And yes, I saw "The Party" a long time ago
and thought it was very funny. I wonder if that's still available also?
Pamela
patdw...@aol.com
>I just checked with the almighty spouse, and he maintains that
>Peter Sellers was indeed a Goon, and played the role of Eccles.
>I'd completely forgotten about Eccles! He probably did Bluebottle
>(pronounced "blewn-bon-ten") also.
>
>
Which "goon" was the Prince of Wales favorite ? And which goon had the long white hair looking a bit like Richard Harris who used to be seen with
the Prince of Wales at events and charity galas always cracking him up. Charles says in his autobiog that the " goon show" saved him during his unhappy school
days and while neither father nor mother shared goonism with him, Lord Mountbatten came through for him , and would listen with the Prince of Wales on "sanity breaks" Charles would spend with Lord Mountbatten. Isn't it unusual for you father's mentor to still be there and " with it " enough to be your mentor as well ? So much is made
of his uniform choices which he himself described in a journal entry as " everything and the kitchen sink today for big do " seems endearing.
Patricia
patdw...@aol.com
>Peter Sellers in a hilarious movie called "The Party"?
>> He plays an Indian(India). Oh,it is so funny. Maybe no longer
>> politically correct but if I were from India,I'd find it funny even.
Yes he did a very good "indian accent and I used to wonder if he had
an friend or family member from India as he really had it down well and not offensively from my point of view or disrepectful of course someone born in India might diagree. It is interesting that the man Peter Sellars was to replace was Alec Guiness who played an Indian in "Passage to India " after Peter Sellars was long dead.
Patricia
smith.
Pamela Gray <pg...@fox.nstn.ca> wrote:
>patdw...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>snip
>>
>> Could you describe the " Goon Show " for those of us not in
>> the know ? Was it like Monty Python ? And was Peter Sellars ever a regular ?
>>
>remember if Peter Sellers was on it, although I think not. The "stars"
>if you can call them that, were Harry Secombe, Spike Milligan and Michael
>Bentine. I think the original nonesense was generated when some or all
>of the Goons were prisoners of war. It helped to keep them sane, and
>then afterwards, they shared their zany humour with the public. The
>humour was more naive than Monty Python, and of course, it wasn't
>visual. Some of the characters were Ned Seagoon, Major Bloodnock,
>Bluebottle, and Eric Crunn.
>
>Pamela
The BBS,does a hilarious show called:""Allo 'Allo" which is a
comedy about WWII. Don't ask me how WWII could be funny but this
is tastefully handled,(a bit off color but hilarious) and the
ensemble cast is supurb. The innkeeper has a great many
girlfriends and he's always getting caught by his wife when he is
in the arms of a pretty girl and he always has a half-way credible
explanation which begins with the expression"You silly woman....."
Then he explains his way out of his predicament. I wonder if
Camilla has seen this show as I've heard her call Diana that.
Yes,I think Diana(the girl) was a bit silly as is common with
youth but I don't think Diana(the woman) is silly anymore with
the exception of her "statement dressing" O's on her Dior bag,
American flag sweaters,black sheep sweater,etc. DSS
smith.
patdw...@aol.com wrote:
>In article <333794...@fox.nstn.ca>, Pamela Gray <pg...@fox.nstn.ca> writes:
>
>>Peter Sellers in a hilarious movie called "The Party"?
>>> He plays an Indian(India). Oh,it is so funny. Maybe no longer
>>> politically correct but if I were from India,I'd find it funny even.
>
> Yes he did a very good "indian accent and I used to wonder if he had
urse someone born in India might diagree. It is interesting that the man Peter Sellars was to replace was Alec Guiness who played an=
Indian in "Passage to India " after Peter Sellars was long dead.
>
>Patricia
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at him as much as with him(even if he is not outwardly laughing),
because in his simplicity he makes his point. OK,maybe the audience
begins laughing at him but somewhere in the movie we end up
with empathy for him,etc. DSS
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>
Pamela Gray
patdw...@aol.com wrote:
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And which goon had the long white hair looking a bit like Richard Harris
I think you must mean Spike Milligan. Peter Sellers and Michael Bentine
are both dead, and Harry Secombe is rather round, and Welsh, with a fine
tenor singing voice.
Pamela
Pamela Gray
Dale Williams wrote:
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lots of stuff about the Goons snipped
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Dale
Thanks for your wonderful post. You've inspired me to go and
look up those references. I used to enjoy the Goons even though
I was quite a small child when they were on the radio. I'm afraid our
family still uses some of the catch phrases from time to time. Do
you really think we need our bumps felt. =:-o
Pamela
Felicity Jones
> a host of others. They specialised in absurd situations, rather knowing
> jokes, silly voices, and catchphrases such as "He's fallen in the
> water!" , "You can't get the wood, you know", and Seagoon's famous
> "Whatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhat?" on a rising inflection of incredulity.
Dale -- Remember the show that involved Honor Blackman (the first Emma
Peel -- think black leather catsuit) - the punch line was "Stop it you
fool, you'll go blind!" I still laugh thinking about that one.
--
Felicity Jones
Cornell University
Career Services
607/255-6921
patdw...@aol.com
> Yes he did a very good "indian accent and I used to wonder if he had
>>an friend or family member from India
>[snip]
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>Spike Milligan was born and raised in India and quite likely had a
>hand in the coaching.
Is that kosher ( pun intended ) for an actor such as Peter Sellars or Alec Guiness to portray a native of India and Alec Guiness even brought up the
idea when hired to play " Godsbody" ? I am not sure of the spelling of the character's name ? In the case of several of these movies or television dramas set in and about India we see the same marvelous actors who have Indian ancestry. I always wonder if they could not have played the role and wonder if it bothered anyone else to have Alec Guiness in such a role when there are such good Indian actors as we see in " A Passage To India " or "Jewel In The Crown"? I believe that David Lean insisted on Alec Guiness and that they were close friends outside of the shooting stage.
Patricia
patdw...@aol.com
> Yes he did a very good "indian accent and I used to wonder if he had
>>an friend or family member from India
>[snip]
>
>Spike Milligan was born and raised in India and quite likely had a
>hand in the coaching.
>
>
Well now we are getting down to brass tacks ! That does make sense.
Thank you so very much.
Patricia
Daffodil
A wondrous thing happened on Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:23:28 -0800, when
Dale Williams <word...@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>patdw...@aol.com wrote:
>> Could you describe the " Goon Show " for those of us not in
>> the know ? Was it like Monty Python ? And was Peter Sellars ever a regular ?
>
>It was nothing like Monty Python, and nothing was ever quite the same
>after the Goon Show.
or as funny
>The Goon Show aired between 1948-ish and the mid 1950s
It's amazing how many people who were only born years after that are
Goon fans, much like the young Beatles fans.
[snip]
>I've seen Spike Milligan on stage and he's one of the funniest men alive
>(or dead too). He wrote a number of books and I'm sure your library
>would have some.
Some of the best are his diaries of the war. My favourite verse of his
has always been:
A wonderful bird is the elephant
As it flits from bough to bough
Builds its nest in a cabbage tree
And whistles like a cow
>By golly, it was funny. And influential too, - at school, we could all
>do all the funny voices. But anyone who continues doing them into adult
>life needs his bumps felt.
Hmph! [Pained glance at Dale] I have a friend who never fails to make
me laugh when he telephones, as instead of saying Hello he says
something like "Sip! This water's gaining on me!"
Daffodil
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aly
patdw...@aol.com wrote:
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> In article <333cdd13...@news.cis.co.za>, daff...@wna.co.za (Daffodil) writes:
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> > Yes he did a very good "indian accent and I used to wonder if he had
> >>an friend or family member from India
> >[snip]
> >
> >Spike Milligan was born and raised in India and quite likely had a
> >hand in the coaching.
>
Guiness even brough
television dramas set i
>
cannot put blame on the plast, we must just move forward.