BBC America
Tom
Jubilee, airing tomorrow night @ 7pm on the west coast. The announcer
keeps saying Her Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth II. That's not
correct, is it? Shouldn't it be, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II?
Just wondering if anyone else caught that, or maybe it's correct. It
just sounded a bit funny.
Charlene Rauch
Majesty"--all the others get an HRH. It's said that the telephone operator's
best moment of the day comes with the QM's call to QE each morning, when she
gets to say: "Your Majesty? Her Majesty, Your Majesty." ;-)
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yaffaDina1
Did anyone see this last night?
I was very disappointed -- nothing new, lots of gaps, ended up with Diana, no
advancing into the future.
Too much of AM 'writing' on his laptop and, my favorite, on a little notepad as
he looked (wherever he was!).
There was a program after on the Royal Marriage. I missed the beginning as I
thought the guide said Royal Marines (eye test coming up!) and though I was a
bit puzzled at the "50 Glorious Years) part, I thought maybe it was due to some
sort of name change or something. Anyway ... same complaint, by the end it had
strayed very far from the marriage.
yD
C.E. Metz-Longinette-Gahring
>
> Did anyone see this last night?
I did.
> I was very disappointed -- nothing new, lots of gaps, ended up
> with Diana, no advancing into the future.
I agree. It was not particularly enlightening, and went entirely too
much into Diana. Whatever Diana's true place in Royal History,
which cannot be determined at this moment in Time, so many
references to her in a programme allegedly about her mother-in-
law's fifty years as a sovereign was excessive and not always
relevant.
Morton certainly "knows" more about Diana than the Queen,
which is fine, but doesn't make for a documentary about the
Queen. The subject of Diana was peripheral to that of the
Queen, but so much attention given to the late Princess of Wales
made the opposite true in this show.
> Too much of AM 'writing' on his laptop and, my favorite, on a
> little notepad as he looked (wherever he was!).
Morton appeared to have succumbed to what is irresistible to
many writers: inserting *himself* into the story. Entirely too much
footage of Morton looking serious and broody, like Hamlet
looking over Denmark.
There was also the element that Morton was determined to show
Elizabeth's shortcomings. I'm not saying it should have been
hagiographic, but, IMHO, Morton had a condescending attitude,
a "that's nice dear, but it could have been - could be - done
better."
> There was a program after on the Royal Marriage... Anyway ...
> same complaint, by the end it had strayed very far from the
> marriage.
Again agreed. Both efforts didn't "flow" well, wandering far from
the alleged focus of their shows.
~ C.
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Jean Sue Libkind
He's insufferable.
This must be the program I caught only the last five minutes of (about
midnight). I checked the copyright day at the end in the credits and it was
1997 by the Learning Channel. It looked vaguely like the tape on the Queen and
Duke's Golden Wedding and I concluded that I had missed a rerun. Do you suppose
they put a new title on an old tape? Might explain the emphasis on Diana.
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It was the other documentary that drove me to distraction, narrated with an
American voice-over by a Maggie Phillips(?) (why do they do that!) Her
voice was so...so......like.....we, the viewers were on the verge of a
nervous breakdown and needed handling with kidgloves. Did any one else
notice she called Pss Annes daughter, Zara - Sarah, and the PoWs school,
Gordonstown?
Mrs H
Tom
> > yaffaDina wrote:
> >
> > Did anyone see this last night?
>
> I did.
>
> > I was very disappointed -- nothing new, lots of gaps, ended up
> > with Diana, no advancing into the future.
>
> I agree. It was not particularly enlightening, and went entirely too
> much into Diana. Whatever Diana's true place in Royal History,
> which cannot be determined at this moment in Time, so many
> references to her in a programme allegedly about her mother-in-
> law's fifty years as a sovereign was excessive and not always
> relevant.
>
> Morton certainly "knows" more about Diana than the Queen,
> which is fine, but doesn't make for a documentary about the
> Queen. The subject of Diana was peripheral to that of the
> Queen, but so much attention given to the late Princess of Wales
> made the opposite true in this show.
>
> > Too much of AM 'writing' on his laptop and, my favorite, on a
> > little notepad as he looked (wherever he was!).
>
> Morton appeared to have succumbed to what is irresistible to
> many writers: inserting *himself* into the story. Entirely too much
> footage of Morton looking serious and broody, like Hamlet
> looking over Denmark.
What I took away from Morton's 'The Queen' was HIS finally
acknowledging that it really IS all about the queen, and not about
Diana. Something that seems to have taken him quite a while to
realize. While Diana's impact was at times brutal to the royal
family, she did bring, early on, a glamour and interest to the larger
public. But in the end, Diana's glamour too would have faded, and
while the Queen will forever have Majesty, Diana would have been left
with very little, and in the end she'll be not too much more than a
footnote in the history of ERII's 50 glorious years.
Again, this is what I think Morton learned for himself during his
research on this 'documentary.' It's not necessarily how I feel. I
do believe that as time goes on though, that even the pro-Diana
factions are realizing just how impetuous she was. It's so
conflicted. Such a force for good, yet so helpless to her own
sentiment.
Sacha
I think you're making good points here. The strength of the monarchy, it's
entire thrust and focus, is the monarch. All else are just supporting
players.
Diana had a lot going for her but she was her own worst enemy, too. One
always gets this niggling feeling that with just a little tweaking here and
there of fate or characters, she could have been an outstanding consort and
they could have been a wonderfully successful couple, both privately and for
the country's sake.
ALMACKS
American voice-over by a Maggie Phillips(?) (why do they do that!) Her
voice was so...so......like.....we, the viewers were on the verge of a
nervous breakdown and needed handling with kidgloves. Did any one else
notice she called Pss Annes daughter, Zara - Sarah, and the PoWs school,
Gordonstown?>>
I noticed that too. I didn't like that special at all. I found it very
condescending. Of course, there was the usual "will the Queen ever catch up to
the rest of us and become modern" nonsense. If she ever does, I'll be ill!!
I prefered the 50 Years special that was shown just before the Morton show. It
was much more dignified.
Dana