Earl Spencer's Cruel Note to Diana
stephenmead
Article from the Sun quoting a letter from Earl Spencer written in 1996 in
which Diana's brother accuses her of being remote, losing touch, being a
fickle friend and suffering from mental illness.
"I fear for you", says the leter, "I know how manipulation and deceit are
parts of the illness......I pray that you are getting appropriate and
sympathetic treatment for your mental problems."
This is also a letter which Burrell has got hold of and is quoting in his
new book.
su-t...@webtv.net
Earl's cruel letter to Diana, By WILL BARKER
PRINCESS Diana's brother Earl Spencer sent her a cruel letter, accusing
her of being mentally ill and "praying" she got help, it was reported
last night.
In the letter the Earl lamented the fact he was drifting out of her life
and had "rather lost touch", having privately admitted he had seen her
only 50 times since her wedding 15 years previously.
It was received by the Princess in April 1996 and read by her and her
flunkey, Paul Burrell. [her flunkey? how catty.]
Yet just over a year later, the Earl stood at Di's funeral in
Westminster Abbey, launching his famed defence of his "extraordinary"
sister, and blaming the Press and Royals for hounding her.
The letter read: "After years of neglect on both sides, our relationship
the weakest I have with any of my sisters... perhaps you have more time
to notice, that we seldom speak." [jerk!]
Referring to a writer in the Daily Mail, and the Earl's own
Northamptonshire ancestral home Althorp House, it went on: "I... will
always be there for you... as a loving brother: albeit one who has,
through 15 years absence, rather lost touch - to the extent I have to
read Richard Kay to learn that you are coming to Althorp.
"I fear for you. I know how manipulation and deceit are parts of the
illness... I pray that you are getting appropriate and sympathetic
treatment for your mental problems. [jerk!]
"I long ago accepted that I was a peripheral part of your life, and that
no longer saddens me. Indeed it's easier for me and my family to be in
that position, as I view the consternation and hurt, your fickle
friendship has caused so many."
In correspondence the Earl also raised the subject of a request by
Diana, to move into a house in the grounds of Althorp.
The Earl had agreed she could so and pay £12,000 a year, but then
changed his mind, claiming the media would disrupt his privacy too much.
He wrote to Diana: "I'm sorry but I've decided that the garden house
isn't a possible move now. There are many reasons, most of which include
the police and press interference which would inevitably follow."
[Translation: Come here & spend time with me (because I'm all important
& you're not), but go away & keep away too, because I'm not pleaseable.
Plus, I need to dislike & blame you for things, & to dump on you. So
you can't win with me.
(This is standard/typical abuse.)]
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Earl Spencer's cruel letter to Diana, was in stark contrast to his
emotional speech at her funeral on September 6, 1997.
Paying tribute, he said: "Diana was the very essence of compassion, of
duty, of style, of beauty.
"All over the world, she was a symbol of selfless humanity. All over the
world, she was a standard bearer for the rights of the truly
downtrodden, a very British girl who transcended nationality."
And in a barbed attack on the Press and the Royal family, he said: "It
is a point to remember that, of all the ironies about Diana, perhaps the
greatest was this - a girl given the name of the ancient goddess of
hunting was, in the end, the most hunted person of the modern age.
"She would want us today to pledge ourselves to protecting her beloved
boys William and Harry from a similar fate, and I do this here, Diana,
on your behalf.
"We will not allow them to suffer the anguish that used regularly to
drive you to tearful despair.
"And beyond that, on behalf of your mother and sisters, I pledge that
we, your blood family, will do all we can to continue the imaginative
way in which you were steering these two exceptional young men, so that
their souls are not simply immersed by duty and tradition but can sing
openly as you planned."
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Susan, Su_Texas my opinions
PS That selfish & demanding, hypocritical & two-faced, sleazy rotten
no-class, lying little b*stard.
Some family! Was her sister Jane nice to Diana at all? I doubt that
Sarah was.
yaffaDina
Spencer was on morning tv earlier. I thought it 'interesting' that the
fist topic was the Diana exhibition he's mounting in Toronto, *then* the
letters, including the one above. So I'm expecting more of him the next
couple of days.
yD
Sacha
su-t...@webtv.net at su-t...@webtv.net wrote on 22/10/03 2:28 pm:
Did you know that at the time his then wife, Victoria, was suffering
depression, anorexia and what is loosely called a nervous breakdown? His
worry was that the inevitable Diana circus would bring great pressure upon
his wife.
Lying? Why lying? He knew his sister better than you did and Diana most
certainly hurt or fell out with most of her friends and many of her family.
To me, that letter reads as coming from a very hurt man - and I for one,
cannot stand Lord Spencer or what I know of him.
--
Sacha
(remove the 'x' to email me)
yaffaDina
Me too. For the record, he didn't seem consumed with guilt when I saw
him this morning! No, embarrassing to have it made public, yes, but
considering that he was right, in that "... manipulation and deceit are
parts of the illness... I pray that you are getting appropriate and
sympathetic treatment for your mental problems." I don't see more than
the reaction of someone hurt by her. Quite restrained, I would say.
yD
Karen Martin
"yaffaDina" <yaffa...@netscape.netSPAM> wrote in message
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I missed it...what did he say, please? I do know the papers have them
terribly out of chronilogical order -- the ones about the Garden House were
in 1992.....The last year of her life, 1997, Diana spent quite a lot of time
with her Brother and immediately after her death he traveled to some of the
places she had booked to do charity appearances...in Fact, Harry and Charles
ran into him at one of her Charity dos in South Africa....there were lots of
pictures.
Burrell in his hatred and jealousy of the Spencers hasn't presented the Full
story in any of these instances...The Earl was advised by Scotland Yard that
the particular house in which Diana wanted to stay with her Sons at Althrop
was not suited to proper security for heirs to the throne and advised
another House on the property which the Earl offered to Diana....but she
refused that house because her heart was set on the other one, Garden
House....the charge was for extra security.....Then too, Charles and
Victoria Spencer were in the midst of their rocky marriage and didn't
actually need any complications with the press on the grounds always lying
in wait for Diana...they made up soon after this.
su-t...@webtv.net
Did you know that at the time his then wife, Victoria, was suffering
depression, anorexia and what is loosely called a nervous breakdown? His
worry was that the inevitable Diana circus would bring great pressure
upon his wife.
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Su_Texas writes:
Earl Spencer's MeMeMe
If he treated Victoria anything like he treated Diana, then he could
have caused or aggravated her problems.
Right now, Earl Spencer appears to be a childish & selfish,
attention-seeking, ... ever-needy, greedy, demanding, & displeased, ...
abusive & arrogant, nothing-special-at-all, kind of guy.
When he's whining & demanding, he's also slapping people down, basically
saying: "You're Not OK, so it's OK to harm you. Stomp. Stomp. Why
aren't you doing more for me, noticing me more, giving me more? Why?!
Can't you see how much I need & want? How superior & worthy I am? I'm
entitled to take more, & I want it. Give it to me." [All my brothers
are like this. It's a very common syndrome & mindset: narcissistic &
antisocial moral disorder. It shows the choice not to emotionally or
morally mature, & the choice to remain lazy & destructive, a manipulator
& user of others.]
Earl Spencer seems to be doing similar things now, with his nephews
(William & Harry): "They don't spend enough time with me. They don't
notice me enough. I am displeased. I want more from them. Why don't
they give me more?" Me. Me. Me.
Susan, Su_Texas my opinions
PS Earl Spencer demanded more time & attention from Diana, then
rejected her when she tried to arrange for & give it.
He seems an immature & arrogant jerk, who enjoys using & harming others.
Noelle
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All this is amazing to me. Things are moving apace, due to Burrell's
book. Does anyone think Burrell's book is stuff he would have
revealed during his trial, that was dropped to the Queen's suddenly
remembering a talk she'd had with Burrell? Hmm?
Noelle
Sacha
su-t...@webtv.net at su-t...@webtv.net wrote on 22/10/03 6:25 pm:
> Sacha wrote:
>
> Did you know that at the time his then wife, Victoria, was suffering
> depression, anorexia and what is loosely called a nervous breakdown? His
> worry was that the inevitable Diana circus would bring great pressure
> upon his wife.
>
> ===========
>
> Su_Texas writes:
>
> Earl Spencer's MeMeMe
>
> If he treated Victoria anything like he treated Diana, then he could
> have caused or aggravated her problems.
That is quite possible but you should see photographs of her before she
married him. She was anorexic then, I would suggest. Certainly, he would
know the illness, having had two sisters who suffered from it.
>
> Right now, Earl Spencer appears to be a childish & selfish,
> attention-seeking, ... ever-needy, greedy, demanding, & displeased, ...
> abusive & arrogant, nothing-special-at-all, kind of guy.
I don't disagree with you there but all I can say is that his letters seem
to me to be those of a very hurt man. Remember - he adored Diana - they
were bonded together as infants because of their unhappy circumstances. The
letter appears to suggest that his 'prop' has abandoned him for grander
things.
>
> When he's whining & demanding, he's also slapping people down, basically
> saying: "You're Not OK, so it's OK to harm you. Stomp. Stomp. Why
> aren't you doing more for me, noticing me more, giving me more? Why?!
> Can't you see how much I need & want? How superior & worthy I am? I'm
> entitled to take more, & I want it. Give it to me." [All my brothers
> are like this. It's a very common syndrome & mindset: narcissistic &
> antisocial moral disorder. It shows the choice not to emotionally or
> morally mature, & the choice to remain lazy & destructive, a manipulator
> & user of others.]
>
> Earl Spencer seems to be doing similar things now, with his nephews
> (William & Harry): "They don't spend enough time with me. They don't
> notice me enough. I am displeased. I want more from them. Why don't
> they give me more?" Me. Me. Me.
Rather like his sister, I'd say.
>
> Susan, Su_Texas my opinions
>
> PS Earl Spencer demanded more time & attention from Diana, then
> rejected her when she tried to arrange for & give it.
When was that?
>
> He seems an immature & arrogant jerk, who enjoys using & harming others.
>
As could his sister, at times.
Sacha
perry...@aol.com wrote on 22/10/03 6:44 pm:
I think it's a great way of paying off the mortgage and buying a cottage in
France - where h will probably feel a good deal more comfortable than in
England, after this. Half a million isn't going to last him long in UK -
property prices are so high but in France, for example property is very
cheap, by comparison.
Wull
definition of the German word "Schwanz",
and I don't mean tail.
I have never read one good item about him by
anyone.
He seems to be spoiled about as much as Charles
Windsor.
How did Diana get harnessed with two of them? All
that talk of her incompetence
can be assuaged by her dealing with two big boobs.
Wull
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Jen Gutmaker
> no-class, lying little b*stard.
>
> Some family! Was her sister Jane nice to Diana at all? I doubt that
> Sarah was.
Why do you automatically assume that Diana did not contribute to the
dysfunctional relationships she had with other people? I'm sorry, but
it seems to me that she's the only common denominator in all of these
relationships.
Tom
the entire spencer clan is volatile.
spencers letter to diana has a ring of truth to it.
none of these revelations are surprising.
the only surprising thing, imo, is bolland and his opinion about a
memorial to diana. and how he says the monarchy, apart from charles,
is out of touch. echoing what diana said, often.
Sacha
toml...@hotmail.com wrote on 22/10/03 9:45 pm:
If I were a modern royal right now, I'd listen to him. He shoots down the
'suits' and rightly so. I think they're holding our monarchy back in the
worst way. While I don't want to see the Queen bringing her shopping back
from Sainsbury's in the basket of her bicycle, I do think that more
information of a real sort about what she does and less "let them eat cake "
from those who are not in fact, royal, would be a Good Thing. I also hope
that the younger and upcoming royals such as Harry, Beatrice and Eugenie and
their future offspring will be encouraged to take up real careers. No more
pratting about being royal but doing little else, when in fact, their
chances of succeeding verge on terminal.
Charlene
Charlene
"Wull" <wjma...@datarecall.net> wrote in message
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G-B
stephenmead wrote:
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I think the Spencers all have chips on their shoulders but that is families and
people often don't realise what they have until it's gone. What I don't
understand though is this butler chap. What happened to that open letter
thingo he wrote to the princes in the paper about never betraying their trust
etc etc. One of you keen geno's should do his family tree - I'll have a fifty
on Burrell turning up in James Hewitt's family tree..... :)
Gioff
Nynthlyfe9
>
> "I fear for you. I know how manipulation and deceit are parts of the
> illness... I pray that you are getting appropriate and sympathetic
> treatment for your mental problems. [jerk!]
Bulimia Nervosa
European Description
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The ICD-10 Classification of Mental and Behavioural Disorders
World Health Organization, Geneva, 1992
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F50.2 Bulimia Nervosa
Bulimia nervosa is a syndrome characterized by repeated bouts of overeating and
an excessive preoccupation with the control of body weight, leading the patient
to adopt extreme measures so as to mitigate the 'fattening" effects of ingested
food. The term should be restricted to the form of the disorder that is related
to anorexia nervosa by virtue of sharing the same psychopathology. The age and
sex distribution is similar to that of anorexia nervosa, but the age of
presentation tends to be slightly later. The disorder may be viewed as a sequel
to persistent anorexia nervosa (although the reverse sequence may also occur).
A previously anorexic patient may first appear to improve as a result of weight
gain and possibly a return of menstruation, but a pernicious pattern of
overeating and vomiting then becomes established. Repeated vomiting is likely
to give rise to disturbances of body electrolytes, physical complications
(tetany, epileptic seizures, cardiac arrhythmias, muscular weakness), and
further severe loss of weight.
Diagnostic Guidelines
For a definite diagnosis, all the following are required:
(a) There is a persistent preoccupation with eating, and an irresistible
craving for food; the patient succumbs to episodes of overeating in which large
amounts of food are consumed in short periods of time.
(b) The patient attempts to counteract the "fattening" effects of food by one
or more of the following: self-induced vomiting; purgative abuse, alternating
periods of starvation; use of drugs such as appetite suppressants, thyroid
preparations or diuretics. When bulimia occurs in diabetic patients they may
choose to neglect their insulin treatment.
(c) The psychopathology consists of a morbid dread of fatness and the patient
sets herself or himself a sharply defined weight threshold, well below the
premorbid weight that constitutes the optimum or healthy weight in the opinion
of the physician. There is often, but not always, a history of an earlier
episode of anorexia nervosa, the interval between the two disorders ranging
from a few months to several years. This earlier episode may have been fully
expressed, or may have assumed a minor cryptic form with a moderate loss of
weight and/or a transient phase of amenorrhoea.
Includes:
* bulimia NOS
* hyperorexia nervosa
Differential diagnosis. Bulimia nervosa must be differentiated from:
(a) upper gastrointestinal disorders leading to repeated vomiting (the
characteristic psychopathology is absent);
(b) a more general abnormality of personality (the eating disorder may coexist
with alcohol dependence and petty offences such as shoplifting);
(c) depressive disorder (bulimic patients often experience depressive
symptoms).
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everyone knows it
from the Queen of England
to the Hounds of Hell
Susan Cohen
"Jen Gutmaker" <jagut...@aol.com> wrote in message
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While I agree, I look at the Earl's behavior/character & it can't *all* have
been Diana.
SusanC