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CT Guy 102

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Aug 16, 2004, 7:17:45 PM8/16/04
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Wonder what the painting looked like as I have never heard of the artist. They
are too cheap to buy decent artwork. I think many of the family's paintings
(which I don't think belong to them) were donated by wealthy collectors who
probably get a plaque with their name under the painting.
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Toppling policeman wrecks Queen's picture, not Constable
Yahoo News, UK and Ireland
Monday August 16, 10:42 AM

LONDON (AFP) - A policeman has damaged a 19th century painting belonging to
Queen Elizabeth II after losing his balance while closing a window, police and
Buckingham Palace sources revealed.

The painting was by a little-known 19th century artist called Morley.

"At 20.30 on August 10 a police officer accidentally damaged a painting at St
James's Palace while carrying out routine duties," Scotland Yard said late
Sunday.

He had stood on a chair to close a window and lost his balance. He grabbed the
curtains, then toppled to the floor.

On picking himself up he saw a gaping hole in the picture.

"There will be no action taken aginst the officer because it was an accident,"
police said.

The palace is an official residence of Prince Charles.
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Copyright © 2004 AFP. All rights reserved

poetman

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Aug 17, 2004, 3:09:10 AM8/17/04
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>On picking himself up he saw a gaping hole in the picture.


Ha ha ha!!!


Volcaran

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Aug 17, 2004, 3:29:19 AM8/17/04
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>Subject: Toppling policeman wrecks Queen's picture, not Constable
>From: ctgu...@aol.com (CT Guy 102)
>Date: 17/08/2004 00:17 GMT Standard Time
>Message-id: <20040816191745...@mb-m22.aol.com>

>They
>are too cheap to buy decent artwork.

Well if they wish to dispose of any of the "cheap" artwork they can throw them
my way. The last estimate of the value of the collection in a recent TV
documentary was "priceless" and claimed to be one of the best private
collections in the world (although held in trust for the nation). It includes a
good many old masters and more modern artists that even you would probably have
heard of. Incidentally, gifts to the monarch as Head of State apart, the
collection was put together by successive monarchs down the years beginning
with Charles I. I for one have never seen a plaque recognising a "wealthy
donor". Those seeking acclaim are probably more likely to gift art to a
national gallery.

Sacha

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Aug 17, 2004, 7:01:18 AM8/17/04
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On 17/8/04 0:17, in article 20040816191745...@mb-m22.aol.com,

"CT Guy 102" <ctgu...@aol.com> wrote:

> Wonder what the painting looked like as I have never heard of the artist. They
> are too cheap to buy decent artwork. I think many of the family's paintings
> (which I don't think belong to them) were donated by wealthy collectors who
> probably get a plaque with their name under the painting.
> -------------------

!! I think we can safely assume that you have never set foot in the Queen's
Gallery at Buckingham Palace for a start - the Leonardo da Vinci cartoon
alone would make any art lovers mouth water. I believe the modernised
gallery is on four floors.
The Royal Collection is fabulous - literally priceless and has been
collected by monarchs for centuries. It isn't 'gifted' to them by wealthy
donors - what a strange idea for a thousand year old monarchy.
I doubt there is anyone in the world with a better collection than the
Queen.
<snip>

Here is some info on the current exhibition:

"26 March 2004 - 9 January 2005
In the year of his accession at the age of 22, George III proclaimed to
Parliament, 'I glory in the name of Briton'. His 60-year reign (1760-1820),
one of the longest in British history, was a period of extraordinary
advancement in the arts, sciences and manufacturing.  Yet George III's
record as one of the most influential patrons of his time has been
completely overshadowed by his image as the mad king and as the monarch who
lost America.

This major exhibition is the first ever to focus on both George III and his
consort, Queen Charlotte, as collectors and to explore their encouragement
of the arts.  It examines their close association with leading artists and
entrepreneurs during one of the most creative periods in British history,
which saw the foundation of such bodies as the Royal Academy of Arts and the
Royal Society of Arts.

The 500 objects, drawn entirely from the Royal Collection, constitute one of
the largest and finest groups of Georgian material ever assembled. They
include sculpture, furniture, paintings, drawings, books, ceramics, silver
and gold, jewellery and clocks.  Although the exhibition focuses on the 50
years before the onset of George III's final illness and the establishment
of the Regency in 1811, it includes poignant items made to celebrate the
King's first recovery from porphyria in 1789.  

In 1762 George III purchased Buckingham House for his young bride Princess
Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz. The decorative arts commissioned for
their new home began the King's life-long commitment to British
'manufactures'. Mahogany furniture by William Vile, silver by Thomas Heming,
porcelain from the Chelsea, Derby, Wedgwood and Worcester factories, and
ornamental metalwork by Matthew Boulton are among the superb pieces shown in
the exhibition.

George III had a deep and practical interest in all branches of art and
science. He was taught architecture by William Chambers (who designed the
dazzling Gold State Coach for the King) and a number of his architectural
drawings are included in the exhibition.  His commissioning of some of the
most sophisticated clocks, barometers and watches ever created stemmed from
a fascination with and understanding of their mechanisms. The case for
Christopher Pinchbeck's magnificent four-dialled astronomical clock and
Matthew Boulton's decoration for the mantel clock by Thomas Wright, both in
the exhibition, were partly designed by the King.

George III and Queen Charlotte were depicted by many of the leading British
artists of the 18th century, including Allan Ramsay and Thomas Gainsborough.
They chose the German painter  Johan Zoffany to record scenes of family life
with their nine sons and six daughters.  Interestingly, at the time of the
long-running dispute over the American colonies, George III commissioned a
series of history paintings from the American artist Benjamin West, whose
heroic subject matter reflected the virtues of honour, fortitude and
chivalry that he particularly admired.

George III's purchase in 1762 of the celebrated collection formed by the
British consul in Venice, Joseph Smith, remains one of the most important
acquisitions in the history of the Royal Collection.  It encompassed superb
Italian paintings and drawings, including works by Raphael, Zuccarelli and
Annibale Carracci, and the finest group of Canalettos in existence. The
collection also contained outstanding ancient and Renaissance gems,
intaglios, medals and books.

Here is an url for the site about the Gallery:
http://www.royal.gov.uk/output/Page1214.asp
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Sacha

Gill W

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"CT Guy 102" <ctgu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Wonder what the painting looked like as I have never heard of the artist.
They
> are too cheap to buy decent artwork. I think many of the family's
paintings
> (which I don't think belong to them) were donated by wealthy collectors
who
> probably get a plaque with their name under the painting.
> -------------------
>

Think again - I would like the wealth and the opportunity to buy just one or
two of the royal collection of Cannelletto, Rembrandt, Leonardo Da Vinci,
Turner, Van Dyke, Vermeer.....et al.......

I have visited Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, Sandringham House and
Balmoral Castle (also Brighton Pavillion) yet never once have I come across
a plaque of any kind (nor a reference in the guidebooks, either) denoting
that any item of art had been "donated". The royals of yesteryear were
patrons of the great artists, and indeed still purchase modern works to
their taste, as well as owning innumerable fabulous works of art.


--
Gill W

Life is not a rehearsal.
Take time out to smell the flowers & enjoy the sunset.


CT Guy 102

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Aug 17, 2004, 9:01:21 PM8/17/04
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>From: Sacha:

I was about 12 years old when I did tour Buckingham Palace, and was not too
interested, at the time, in art.

I thought I heard that the Mona Lisa was loaned to a British museum, or maybe
Buckingham Palace, for display recently. I know you British love your art. I
also collect sea-scapes by original artists including 2 O'Neills (who you have
probably never heard of, as he is not well-known) and an Edmond Sullivan (who
paints Ireland's landscapes).

Thanks for the info.


Susan Cohen

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>
>
> >Subject: Toppling policeman wrecks Queen's picture, not Constable
> >From: ctgu...@aol.com (CT Guy 102)
> >Date: 17/08/2004 00:17 GMT Standard Time
> >Message-id: <20040816191745...@mb-m22.aol.com>
>
> >They
> >are too cheap to buy decent artwork.

And if they bought expensive stuff, who would be the first to scream that
they are "wasting taxpayer's [sic] money"....?


>
> Well if they wish to dispose of any of the "cheap" artwork they can throw
them
> my way.

I know that I'd like that less-than-poster sized picture hanging in a little
corner of WIndsor.
It's just a young girl in a rose-colored gown - no one would really miss
it....

:-)

Susan C

(Yes, it's the picture of Elizabeth I when princess, attributed to William
Scrots. I just fnished morphing my own little girl's face into it w/Pain
Schop Pro - she's *very* chuffed!)

Sacha

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On 18/8/04 2:01, in article 20040817210121...@mb-m01.aol.com,

"CT Guy 102" <ctgu...@aol.com> wrote:

If you get to London again, it's certainly worth seeing that collection.
The actual displays change all the time but run for several months. There
isn't enough space to show off everything in the collection, in one place.
I love seascapes too, especially with boats in them and have a couple by a
chap called Ian Houston (whose style is a bit reminiscent of Seago) and some
local ones by an artist called Boyce, who used to be a naval architect.
When we were in USA we spent one night in a place just outside Carmel. It
was right on the sea and there were boardwalks through dunes to the beach.
It was a magnificent place and you got around the hotel by golf buggy.
Everything was built in wood and was immensely comfortable and 'good'
looking. I just wish I could remember its name! I know it was affiliated in
some way to the Inn at Morro Bay because we'd stayed there for 3 nights just
beforehand. Anyhow - back to the point, in the restaurant on this place
(which was called something like Cowboy Joe) there were some large paintings
of cowboys and ranchers which absolutely hooked me. I can't now remember
the name of the artist but the style of the paintings was terribly forceful,
very rugged. There was one that was just of the cowboy's hands clasped
together over the reins. I thought they were superb but I do remember that
when I looked up his web site I was rocked back by the prices, though I
shouldn't have been! They wouldn't really fit in this house but I'd still
love to own one or five! If anyone can give me a clue as to the artist, I'd
be very grateful. My memory..........sigh!
--

Sacha

Sacha

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On 18/8/04 2:01, in article 20040817210121...@mb-m01.aol.com,
"CT Guy 102" <ctgu...@aol.com> wrote:

<snip>


>>
>
> I was about 12 years old when I did tour Buckingham Palace, and was not too
> interested, at the time, in art.
>
> I thought I heard that the Mona Lisa was loaned to a British museum, or maybe

> Buckingham Palace, for display recently.<snip>

I couldn't find a Google reference for the Mona Lisa coming to Britain but
galleries as well as private individuals, loan out paintings a great deal.
However, while looking up the Mona Lisa, I found that the royal family have
no less than 77 drawings and paintings by Leonardo da Vinci. They were
exhibited in the Queen's Gallery last year but normally are kept out of
sight to preserve them from the damaging effect of light.
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Sacha

BTov

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> "Volcaran" <volc...@aol.comnopost> wrote in message
> news:20040817032919...@mb-m16.aol.com...
> >
> >
> > >Subject: Toppling policeman wrecks Queen's picture, not Constable
> > >From: ctgu...@aol.com (CT Guy 102)
> > >Date: 17/08/2004 00:17 GMT Standard Time
> > >Message-id: <20040816191745...@mb-m22.aol.com>
>
> > >They
> > >are too cheap to buy decent artwork.
>
> And if they bought expensive stuff, who would be the first to scream that
> they are "wasting taxpayer's [sic] money"....?
> >
> > Well if they wish to dispose of any of the "cheap" artwork they can throw
> them
> > my way.
>
> I know that I'd like that less-than-poster sized picture hanging in a little
> corner of WIndsor.
> It's just a young girl in a rose-colored gown - no one would really miss
> it....
>
> :-)
>
> Susan C
>
> (Yes, it's the picture of Elizabeth I when princess, attributed to William
> Scrots. I just fnished morphing my own little girl's face into it w/Pain
> Schop Pro - she's *very* chuffed!)

you need a life flabbia
better you should take baby cohen to the vet
and get the damn thing neutered
before it starts spraying the furniture
b'wahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

(b'rissed)

Noelle

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Sacha <sa...@weedsgarden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<BD48E286.165B%sa...@weedsgarden506.fsnet.co.uk>...

================
Frederick Remington is the only cowboy artist that comes to my mind.
But there is also another prominent cowboy artist (American), but I
can't for the life of me recall the name.

Noelle

Andy.III

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Aug 18, 2004, 9:46:31 AM8/18/04
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>================
>Frederick Remington is the only cowboy artist that comes to my mind.
>But there is also another prominent cowboy artist (American), but I
>can't for the life of me recall the name.
>
>Noelle

Yes.. I WANT to say Witherspoon but know that that is wrong.. this is
maddening!

Andy.III
--
"I have a congenital birth defect.
I have a violent commitment to candor,
so don't ask unless you *REALLY* want to know!"

Sacha

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On 18/8/04 14:46, in article 20040818094631...@mb-m06.aol.com,
"Andy.III" <agh...@aol.com-Host> wrote:

>> ================
>> Frederick Remington is the only cowboy artist that comes to my mind.
>> But there is also another prominent cowboy artist (American), but I
>> can't for the life of me recall the name.
>>
>> Noelle
>
> Yes.. I WANT to say Witherspoon but know that that is wrong.. this is
> maddening!
>
>
>
> Andy.III
> --

Okay, after a bit of searching, I've found it. We stayed at the Marina
Dunes resort and the restaurant is called A.J. Spurs. If you click on this
link, some of the pictures are visible in the background.
http://www.marinadunes.com/dining.asp
--

Sacha

Sacha

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Aug 18, 2004, 1:12:20 PM8/18/04
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On 18/8/04 17:52, in article BD4947DB.1691%sa...@weedsgarden506.fsnet.co.uk,
"Sacha" <sa...@weedsgarden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

I caved in and rang A.J. Spurs. The artist is Hugh Slater though that name
doesn't ring a bell with me and I can't find him in any database. I wonder
if that's the right information!
--

Sacha

Andy.III

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Aug 18, 2004, 2:10:22 PM8/18/04
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>I caved in and rang A.J. Spurs. The artist is Hugh Slater though that name
>doesn't ring a bell with me and I can't find him in any database. I wonder
>if that's the right information!
>--
>
>Sacha

He may be a local! In any case that isn't the name I'm trying to think
of...grrrrrrr!

Watch.. 3 weeks from now it will come to me in the middle of the night! :)

Noelle

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agh...@aol.com-Host (Andy.III) wrote in message news:<20040818094631...@mb-m06.aol.com>...

> >================
> >Frederick Remington is the only cowboy artist that comes to my mind.
> >But there is also another prominent cowboy artist (American), but I
> >can't for the life of me recall the name.
> >
> >Noelle
>
> Yes.. I WANT to say Witherspoon but know that that is wrong.. this is
> maddening!
================
Charles Russell?
Noelle

>
>
>
> Andy.III

Sacha

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Aug 18, 2004, 6:15:03 PM8/18/04
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On 18/8/04 19:10, in article 20040818141022...@mb-m28.aol.com,
"Andy.III" <agh...@aol.com-Host> wrote:

>> I caved in and rang A.J. Spurs. The artist is Hugh Slater though that name
>> doesn't ring a bell with me and I can't find him in any database. I wonder
>> if that's the right information!
>> --
>>
>> Sacha
>
> He may be a local! In any case that isn't the name I'm trying to think
> of...grrrrrrr!
>
> Watch.. 3 weeks from now it will come to me in the middle of the night! :)
>
> Andy.III
> --

Do NOT - repeat NOT - call us if it's the middle of our night!
--

Sacha

Andy.III

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Aug 18, 2004, 7:32:18 PM8/18/04
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>Do NOT - repeat NOT - call us if it's the middle of our night!
>--
>
>Sacha

LOL!!!

I'd never even thought of it.... until you mentioned it! ;)

h.sanders

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"Sacha" <sa...@weedsgarden506.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> --------------------------------
Perchance is the unnamed western/cowboy artist Charles M. Russell? He was a
great artist of the genre at the turn of the century. He hit it big with an
exhibition in London in the early 1900s.

Hal S.


Sacha

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Aug 19, 2004, 5:51:46 AM8/19/04
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On 19/8/04 2:40, in article iyTUc.277264$a24.259862@attbi_s03, "h.sanders"
<h.sa...@comcast.net> wrote:

No, I'm afraid not. Whoever this artist is, he's still alive and working.
Did you manage to see any of the pictures in the background of the
restaurant? They're extremely vibrant - forceful, even, whereas Russell's
have a rather mistier use of colour, I think.
And doesn't *anybody* here live near that hotel?! ;-) We were there two
years ago, so I'm wondering if they've changed the exhibition and have given
me the name of a new artist.
--

Sacha

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