Let us begin at the beginning, shall we? Salime matriculated at Brown
University. Her family has no royal connections aside from her uncle,
the Pahlavi family doctor. They are not Qajars or Khans, and no one
else in her family attempts to say that they are. Her cousin Goli,
Leila's actual friend, will tell you that. Salime was so overwhelmed
by a routine college load (where there is no core curriculum) that she
had to "take time off" in Houston for psychological counseling.
Oh, and for the record, Salime was not injured in the infamous car
accident but may have dislocated her jaw in a certain van, Ferrari and
Biltmore hotel bed.
Salime's virginity was long gone by the time of her arrival at Brown-
need I call in the Latin American contingent to verify?
Most of the people she describes were social acquaintances of hers for
less than one year. She had a large falling out with her best friend
in the whole wide world, and he exposed her to everyone. After that,
she hung around the fringes, but was never "in" again. Euro-wise, it
was over after the Pakistani dumped her publicly...but I digress.
Salime's favorite movie is Dangerous Liasons- getting a picture?
Salime is now confusing people and events. Ah, so she is really
getting older or those psychotropic medications are confusing her.
She is even mis-naming cars, relationships and names. Salime has
never had a relationship- that explains some of the petty jealousy she
describes to every single successful member of the Brown Alumni
community and why she feels every relationship is doomed to failure.
I am sure she is not bitter about being 5', heavy, hirsute and
hyper-dramatic. I am sure.
The most hilarious things are the "history of Iran" postings. For the
record, "Princess Azadeh" has not one drop of royal blood. Her
grandmother married a prince AFTER she had Azadeh's parent. Princess
Parisima (Azadeh's grandmother) is the first to say this. So, she is
the step-granddaughter to a Prince. She never had the title Princess.
Salime, of course, has no Qajar blood. On the internet, there are
many articles about the Qajar family- one of the most interesting
cites Salime's "friend" Bahram Pahlavi as the product of a
Qajar/Pahlavi union.
She also has never met two of the three Miller sisters, though all
three claim not to know who the hell she is. She barely met Pavlos on
his two visits to Brown while she was there. See, Salime is not the
kind of person you want your family to think you are hanging out with.
She has a masculine manner, a deep throat, and smoked 2 packs of
Marlboro Reds a day. Her favorite quote was "Better to be feared than
loved."
Don't you dare comment on the Miller sisters marriage as though you
know them. You would kill to have someone like Alex (M) look at you
once, but he too cannot remember you.
Salime, let me be very clear about this. I have printed every single
email you have written and sent copies to the appropriate parties.
They have jobs, income, lawyers etc. I would think very carefully
about the slanderous lies you have posted here. They constitute
libel.
For the second time in your life, you failed and had to retreat to
Houston. I will send these to your father,as an extra insurance to
make sure you stop lying. I have also sent everything to the good
doctor's family, the PR whiz, and all of the various royalty you have
lied about. That is enough.
I have plenty more to say about you. But I am accurate and can
substantiate my statements. It is time for you to state when the last
time was you interacted as a friend to any of these people. Weddings
of thousands and you weren't one of the invitees- tell these good
people the truth for once in your life.
everyone knows it
from the Queen of England
to the Hounds of Hell
>>>we on this ng enjoy Li for her spirit, her good sense, and her wit. not to
mention her dog[;)] >>
Thanks, Teri. But there is little point in responding to the person. I'm
certainly not going to get into a debate on my life, and all the ways the man
is wrong, on the internet. So, let them think whatever they want. I know what
is the truth. But thanks again. :)
Still in wrote:
======
If you want to attack or argue with a particular person, AGR really isn't
the place to do it. This is all getting out of control now...
I and a lot of other, no doubt, are completely sick of the 'Speaker's
Corner' tone this group is starting to take. If you want to say
something to whoever, whether it be to tear them to shreds, invite them to
your child's christening or requesting help with a new space shuttle fuel
formula, then do you mind emailing them directly? The accusations and the
public humiliation you've just directed at S., is very bad form and
something you should have first talked about with her privately as I and
others can only gather you are none of the people you protect in your
email because you've not signed it...
Certainly we may not be able to verify anything S has said on here, or
what any of us say, but we can't verify yours either and I doubt anyone
will be interested enough to bothered.
Whether or not someone knows someone or doesn't, doesn't really disallow
them from posting their *opinions* about something/one here as long as
they pertain to things royal. It is, after all, called
alt.gossip.royalty....
Enough of these attacks, everyone! This place used to be *fun* {well most
of the time, anyway)
Gioff
Wull
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Wull wrote:
> Who in the world are you????????????????????????
> Without clarification and/or credentials (here we
> go again) we don't take an exposé like this one
> from anyone, especially a complete stranger.
>
> Wull
>
Touche mate, touche!
Gioff
<ahem>
And you are...
-J
JFlexer wrote:
-------
Oh Jeff, it is *someone*, *very* important!
Gioff
<ahem>
And you are...
-J
=================
another arse......
with out even any pretensions to an amusment factor.
Yeah, but we can always stuff you in our killfiles.
SusanC
Yeah, but we can always stuff you in our killfiles.
SusanC
------------------
which are getting overloaded.
how many names can a kilfile take ?
Salome, you didn't ask for this, and you don't deserve it. You are someone I
am truly enjoying getting to know on what I call a "real" level -- it
doesn't matter "who" you are, or what your "name" is, I just like what you
have have to say and how you say it.
Hang tough, Salome -- there are obviously a lot of people here who have your
back.
Oh. And I do believe now that this person -- and all trolls really, but THIS
one especially -- should be ignored. Salome will know best how to handle it,
and knows that she can ask for help if she needs it. I didn't even read past
the first two or three sentences of this poison -- and I won't read any more
of this type of post.
(But it IS curious that someone implying greater knowledge of these Princes
and Princesses than anyone here does not know how to spell Prince Nikolaos'
name... Hmmmm....)
=======Well stated penny.
We have ALL of her posts. You have no idea the amount of lies she has
stated here as facts. There should be consequences to this sort of
behavior. Public figures may be discussed publicly, but one CANNOT
spread lies and falsehoods. She has even forgotten what cars people
had in college. She is dead wrong about relationships. There were
6,500 hundred people at Brown, and most of them claim to have some
interaction with the people you read about today. But it is still
ILLEGAL to lie, no matter how much fun it is for you to read.
The people about whom she writes are scarcely home; they have jobs,
children and friends. To rip them apart with lies is unacceptable, I
am glad she has been identified so this can be rectified. You are all
welcome to help her with her defense, though. It is clear none of you
have met Salime, otherwise you would understand who is the envious
one. Tip off: she is talking about interactions over a decade ago and
were far scantier than she states. And, no, we are not the same
people we were as children, that is called life and maturing.
Although Salime here seems to have relapsed.
I, and everyone notified, is grateful that someone had the courtesy to
bring this to our attention. You really do not have a picture of what
you are dealing with here- she is seductive and fascinating, but
actually mentally ill.
However, it is true.
You may not care.
Fortunately, the law does.
Let us see with who a judge agrees.
Not every person who has interacted with these people knows them.
Some of the stuff is lies, intentional or because she cannot remember,
but she cannot state them as fact.
Thank goodness, some people still care about the truth. It is so sad
that none of you care about the real accomplishments of these people.
It is too sad that M-C works harder on a day-to-day basis than Salime,
but raher than contribute to the world, she would rather sit around
and indulge her petty envy.
I almost threw up when she stated why Alex (F) had children; and what
kind of a father Alex (M) would be. Salime and Alex overlapped for 6
months at Brown, and she definitely did not hang out with his crowd.
She was not invited to his parties.
The worst is the stuff about "bombing the whole country." I cannot
believe all of you feel this is appropriate.
If you don't care, perhaps Salime Samii's parents care more to see
that her illness is not exploited for entertainment.
There is such a thing as too much information. Salome's sexual past is
simply none of our business because she has not previously shared
those details. She is not, furthermore, a public figure. Using the
alleged sexual history of a private citizen in an attempt to discredit
her character is far from gentlemanly behavior.
Salome, I've no idea what it is you've said that has apparently upset
this man, because I don't read most of what gets discussed on AGR
(lack of time rather than lack of interest, at least where your posts
are concerned). But I do want to say this: from late 2001 until early
2003 I posted here about once in a blue moon. Since you've started
posting I've found myself tempted to do so far more often - because
it's been a refreshing change to see a considerable number of posts
that are about something other than a) the Windsors; and b) ancient
ongoing personal feuds.
A few months ago a friend of mine asked me why on earth I posted here
(given the personal attacks, the feuds and so forth). I said "Because
it's fun" and received an incredulous response along the lines of "You
call THAT fun!?" - But it actually has been fun - with your
questionaires ("Name your favourite historical mystery", etc.) AGR has
seemed since March a little more the kind of thing I imagine it was
set up to be. So - whatever - I doubt you need another message of
support, but I hope it's obvious to you by now that your presence IS
appreciated :-)
Janet
Next thing you know, she will start dancing on
table tops, :-)
Wull
I know you weren't talking to me but I'd like to say being 5 foot and
smoking does not make you a bad person :)
yD -- 4'11" and smokes
Wull-ha ha ha ha
A most sensible approach. None of us believe him or care.
js
It is so sad that none of you care about the real accomplishments of
these people.
You have not the vaguest idea as to whom you are addressing. You
obviously bear an unworthy grudge and are not a Gentleman. I'm sure
the Family of Konstantine does not require a jackall to defend them on
the internet.
> It is too sad that M-C works harder on a day-to-day basis than Salime,
No one here has challenged that assumption in fact my own Sister,
Bizique Lane, has defended the good works of Marie-Chantal in times
past on this very Forum. You speak out of turn of private matters
which must be settled privately.
>
> I almost threw up when she stated why Alex (F) had children; and what
> kind of a father Alex (M) would be. Salime and Alex overlapped for 6
> months at Brown, and she definitely did not hang out with his crowd.
> She was not invited to his parties.
And that is supposed to be some sort of comdemnation!?!!?!? If you are
seriously concerned about the honour of the people named, to recount
untruths is doing them a further disservice.
> The worst is the stuff about "bombing the whole country." I cannot
> believe all of you feel this is appropriate.
You do not speak for One of Us , let alone ALL....there are hundreds
of 'us' by the way.
>
> If you don't care, perhaps Salime Samii's parents care more to see
> that her illness is not exploited for entertainment.
How dare you speak of Exploitation as that is Exactly what You are
perpetuating.
Karen Martin
How very insignificant, if true.
> Tip off: she is talking about interactions over a decade ago and
> were far scantier than she states.
Then why should she recall a mediocre detail such as an
automobile!?!??!
> I, and everyone notified, is grateful that someone had the courtesy to
> bring this to our attention.
Were you notified by one of the Millar sisters?[Not Miller] By a
person with a heraldry site, or a person who does geneaology charts ?
Those are queries, not accusations.
WHO notified you or are you and they too bloody cowardly to say who
grassed!?
You really do not have a picture of what you are dealing with here-
she is seductive and fascinating, but actually mentally ill.
Not That old wheeze, you are dealing with intellectuals [in some
instances] not your old chums down the pub. What?!?! Did Salome refuse
to be Friends with you??
I believe is it Salome's Uncle who is the Physician, surely not you.
If you are ashamed of your identity and those of your spies, you have
less cred than a Gov. Gray Davis.
Karen Martin
Then Stop grandstanding , using Salome as a peg on which to hang more
of your everlasting venom.
This is about HER, not YOU!!
Karen Martin
oh please... you have no integrity or authority here. You are some
"mysterious, anonymous voice" who's come to protect us from our ignorance?
Kee-Rhist, we deal with anonymous and changing identities in this group on
nearly a daily basis - and tear each other to threads over the issue.
Now, run along and mind your betters. You're simply in the way here.
-J
<SNIP>
blah blah blah blah blah
Well, you should watch you're back. I have it on good authority from
Roushon Beg that you are a fraud. He called me on the Bat Phone last night
and after conferencing in Janet Reno and John Paul, he's decided to send
the Ancient and Secret Riders of Khurugu for a visit...
Be afraid, be very afraid!
Allah-hooooo!
-J
Salime claimed in a message here that the late Princess Leila, may she
rest in peace, was promiscuous, while Salime was a virgin. This takes
nerve as it was Salime who was witnessed in a van with 10 people in
the van watching her committing sexual acts. She also was promiscuous
prior to Brown University. Leila was not. That is why it is an issue.
I am sorry that you all feel it is appropriate for Salime Samii to
state that they should bomb an entire country. That is simply wrong.
Indeed, the things she states here are total falsehoods, fun though
they may be. Most of the people she discusses have not elected to be
public personalities. It is sad that she is so obsessed with a minor
brush with celebrity and royalty that she must try to exploit this to
make friends.
You do not know Salime as I do. Her sisters, brother, mother and
father will not defend one word of what she has posted here. They
will be made aware of her actions. She committed libelous slander.
Even if it is fun, it is not fair to real people who work, have
children, lives, and philanthropic endeavors. How much of an
arriviste can one be?
Finally, Ms. Samii, the documentation of your family history exists
and can be made public. With all of the thousands of families
claiming to be former royals, ONLY YOU, not Dr. Samii or his family,
not your father, mother, sisters or brothers, make the ridiculous
claim that Salime Samii is anything more than regular person, common
in status, achievements and behavior.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
OK.
I know who this is, some one trying to take the heat off Julian.
Perchance it is Julian.
One can always tell when one is reading the ravings of loonies...they always
slip up and over do......and the of course the rest of their posts are viewed
with a jaundiced eye.
====================================
I don't know what to think about this..She has been consistently nice
and kind to me in private. To me that remains the bottom line. Are
you perfect yourself? What is your axe to grind against her in this
way? While there seems to be some authenticity to your claims as far
as who she is (a Google search reveals that, brownalumnusmagazine.com
etc. and American School in Paris threads) this all by your own
admission goes back to the early 90's, so why this sudden eruption of
anger after so long? Furthermore, if Prince Nikolaos and the Miller
sisters don't know her then by the same token I don't think they
hugely care about what she may say either, God knows there is ten
times worse said especially about M-C who I admit is not one of my
favourite people on the planet either. A lot more and a lot worse has
been written about Euroroyals in everything from "W" to "Ocean Drive"
and other gossip mags.
Give 'em time and line... that's all they need...
She made it about others, but I will make it about her.
Whether you like her or not is irrelevant. Be her friend, sleep with
her, give your life with her- your business.
She is a liar. You honestly think she can say what she did about Alex
and Alex, MC and Pavlos and, most shamefully, Princess Leila, and get
away with it because you like her dogs?
Wrong! This is a public forum. She has committed libel, and
fortunately identified herself for legal recourse.
I don't care whether you like me or believe me. She knows I know.
And she knows the price. That is enough.
BTW- her name is legally spelled Salime. I wonder why your very good
friend did not tell you that...
She claims "facts" yet they are lies. Whether you like her postings
or not, I shall continue to expose her in life and on the internet.
And, believe me, no one wanted to be friends with Salime and couldn't.
Don't worry about it. She is a hyper-dramatic liar who is obsessive
and consuming. Her own parents cannot bear her!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
if you would have read AGR, you would know that she did post this information.
btw, half of the US is on psychotropic drugs, so *even* if you were telling he
truth about this [which is doubtful], no one would care.
Go away!!!
S/he is not going to go away until we stop posting to him/her and as long as
we keep talking about S. The individual has already admitted that s/he was
" really starting to get discouraged". If we ignore s/he will go away.
Besides, it's not like any of us are interested in his/her hateful,
borrrrrrrrring vitriol.
S/he is not going to go away until we stop posting to him/her and as long as
we keep talking about S. The individual has already admitted that s/he was
" really starting to get discouraged". If we ignore s/he will go away.
Besides, it's not like any of us are interested in his/her hateful,
borrrrrrrrring vitriol.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ok.
I shall not read, but only change any headings to stupid boring vitirol
t
=============================================
What on earth are you talking about now, t?
I can't see that anyone has posted into this thread since 2001 until
you today. And what "heat" would that be exactly? If you're
referring to Salome, I have nothing to do with her problems. Go see
the one thing I've had to say to the Still In poster about it. Then
un-jaundice your eye.
=============================================
========I should have put a :)
It was a joke Julian
I really dont think Sacha is PP or Phil Prince Phillip.
It all goes back to that 'no sense of humor'
thing.
Wull
Your friend, Ms. Salime Samii, has posted false allegations about drug
use, promiscuity, infidelity and other sordid accusations as fact.
Please review her previous postings.
It does not matter who notified whom- it was a courtesy for which many
decent people will be grateful. Furthermore, this does indeed
constitute a violation of United States law on Ms. Samii's behalf.
Finally, the racist violent words she has to Iran and its people are
considered inflammatory, if not illegal as the libel was. Good luck!
:)
You concur with her statement and are shocked that I would object?
Not knowing people is never a crime; falsely claiming to and stating
slander as fact fortunately is.
Read Salime's past posts again. She actually called the Shah's twin a
"whore" who "conducted orgies." There will be consequences. There
must- whether you agree with the law or not, Ms. Martin.
Madame, you would not know the truth if it bit you on your
considerable derriere. Furthermore, you state lies as facts- how are
the people you maign meant to defend themselves? They, that is, the
people with kids, jobs, lives and friends, should spend their time
debating you but you, Miss
taking-the-additional-break-in-a-life-that-is-one-big-break. No my
dear, that is why God created lawyers. Real ones. From good schools.
Let's put a stop to this here and deal with it in the court.
PS- Mummy and Daddy won't pay for this either, much like the other
money you have tried to extort from them!
Oh, okay - no problem!
As to the rest -- I've never been quite sure who she is either and the
number of names she has lived under, well--her driving license must
read like a four-course menu...on and on and...;)
PK, which sisters are you talking about? If you are talking about
Kendra and her twin sister, they are indeed the Millar girls and have
had nothing to do with this discussion. If you are talking about
Marie-Chantal,the wife of Crown Prince Pavlos of Greece, her sister
Pia Getty, and her other sister the recently-divorced Alexandra, they
were, in fact,Millers (spelled with an "e") before their marriages.
For more info, take a look at the official greek website:
http://www.formerkingofgreece.org/english/family_mariechantal_ffile.html.
Please clarify your statement. Thanks.
By no means. I do not read every post...I didn't read those. To take
silence for approval is a mistake.
>
> You concur with her statement and are shocked that I would object?
Do you really think that not even knowing the contents of many of her
posts constitutes a consent to their validity?? You over-estimate the
import of some of the words exchanged here...simply to Say a thing
does not make it true or correct. I doubt many readers Ever read every
single post here...I certainly don't. You will notice that I didn't
engage in any of the threads regarding the Shah or some of the other
topics which anger you...including those pertaining to the Miller
Sisters or the Greek royals. I don't post about the Royals of Monaco
either or pretend to be well acquainted with their lives or background
nor do I swallow every word I read here about them knowing the great
prejudices that envelop this group.
I stick to topics I am acquainted with...not those which are only
slightly known to me. In fact I get VERY annoyed that so many people
here are quick to condemn Princess Stephanie whilst I can name some
European Princes whose 'affairs' are every bit as unlovely as
hers...it's a double standard that I won't engage in.
> Not knowing people is never a crime; falsely claiming to and stating
> slander as fact fortunately is.
I agree with that sentiment but do not know if it applies in this
case...it's your word against the young Lady's...no proof has been
offered on either side.
>
> Read Salime's past posts again.
I haven't read them the first time as yet, not on the topics you refer
to.
She actually called the Shah's twin a
> "whore" who "conducted orgies." There will be consequences. There
> must- whether you agree with the law or not, Ms. Martin.
Many sesational allegations here go uncorrected ... it's the nature of
this particular group, unfortunately....which is not to say I agree
with your verdict of the young Lady but you would have to prove that
her allegations actually damaged reputations...you could not prove it
by me because I take many posts with a grain of salt...unless Proven
otherwise or Proven as they stand by a reasonable source.
Did you not know that the late Princess of Wales and several posters
here are called rude names and lied about on a regular basis
here!?!??!
If you find a way to end such attacks against the dead and living,
please let us know.
Karen Martin
You are mistaken. She and I are not 'friends.'
has posted false allegations about drug
> use, promiscuity, infidelity and other sordid accusations as fact.
That is an every day occurance on this Forum and applies to the
majority of the posters here, unfortunately.
>
> Please review her previous postings.
Why would you wish for me to read what you claim are falsehoods???
>
> It does not matter who notified whom-
It certainly does...show some courage if you are not faking all of
this.
Furthermore, this does indeed
> constitute a violation of United States law on Ms. Samii's behalf.
And on yours and her other accusors if you are dishonest.
>
> Finally, the racist violent words she has to Iran and its people are
> considered inflammatory, if not illegal as the libel was. Good luck!
> :)
I don't like racism either but it's rampant in this internet
world...As Earl Spencer has said about those who lie about his dead
Sister, 'If I go after and prosecute all her detractors, I would have
no time left to further the causes which made her beloved by the
masses.' For every Hater or Racist you knock down, two more pop up to
take their place...do I mean fighting racism is hopeless, no I do not
but you must go to its full root, not an individual.
You must sing the praises of Iran...or whatever your cause, so loudly
as to drown out your opponents....which does not mean I agree with
your opinion of anyone.
Karen Martin
Salime has disappeared because she knows I tell the truth and she has
told libelous slander.
The major difference is that my statements are true while hers are not
and thus constitute libel and slander.
She may state opinions but she cannot state falsehoods as facts about
individuals in a public forum without recourse. That is why we have
laws.
This is not the only site where Salime has chosen to express her
envious bitterness of those she had a fleeting contact with in
college. As she herself used to say, it is the "taste of caviar"
which left her the most hungry.
It is impossible for you to know who is telling the truth and who is
lying. However, Salime, me, and everyone whom she slandered know the
truth. My goal was to have her go away, and apparently the truth has
had the desired effect. She is frightened because she knows she
violated the law and she knows I know way too much to be making things
up as she has.
The solution is to confront and then to sue. It is apparently
working. As for the late Diana, Princess of Wales, that is her
brother's decision to make. He cannot make it for everyone though. I
personally cannot stomach the things Salime Samii has said here about
both the living and the dead.
Every single thing she has tried to say about others is actually true
about her. I understand that most of you have been corresponding with
her for years, but that does not mean that she has not been weaving
tall tales for you.
Sorry if that is an unpleasant truth to swallow.
I understand that most of you have been corresponding with her for years, but
that does not mean that she has not been weaving tall tales for you. <snip>
----------------
For years? Then Salome has been here before under a different screen name?
Ellie