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Patdwfsyte

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"Oh yes, that was a wonderful trip. Do you remember all those
bare-breasted dancing girls?

"That's how the King chooses his wives you know, he just points out the
ones he wants."

............said the Prince of Wales speaking
with the press on board his plane of his last trip to Swaziland in 1987.


Patdwfsyte

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"It is great that so many people want to join me and it will be a tough
job choosing the 250 people for a place on the team. I wish 5,000 could run
in the team, but this is the figure that has been set.

"I met Diana on about seven occasions and she was exceptionally good at
supporting the victims of landmines. I feel honoured to be selecting a team.

"I want to choose runners who have never done fund raising before. We
arelooking for new fundraisers and running the London Marathon is a real
team effort.

"I hope we will have people from all over Britain and I hope that local
communities will get behind their runners and help them with fundraising."

..........said Chris Moon
who worked on the anti landmine campaign with Diana, Princess of Wales and
is helping choose a
team of marathon runners .


Patdwfsyte

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Beatle Sir Paul McCartney comes in at second place with a fortune of only
$868 million

David Bowie is Great Britain's richest star with only $919 million

Tom Jones was third with only $460 million

Phil Collins was fourth only $367 million

The Spice Girls are suffering at number 42, with each worth only $24 million.

......said BusinessAge magazine.


Patdwfsyte

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In article <637qpk$3si$a...@204.179.92.155>, "smith."
<st...@magpage.com.nospam> writes:

>>>Tom Jones was third with only $460 million

>>> I have a Tom Jones true story, I know this for a fact,
>but I can't post it on a computer or tell anyone. It is
>about someone who gave him something he needed. That's all
>I will ever say! (It was someone who knows my aunt.) DSS
>
>
>
>

Well until we worm it out of you, I am
often mocked for saying that I think if you take a performance of Prince
and Tom Jones both doing " Kiss " I think that Tom does a good job even if
he can't quite make the split he tries for when I have seen him on
television. My former mother in law would follow his performances and prob
still does.

Patricia Who would vote for the entertainer formerly known as Prince
or Tom Jones singing " Kiss " at their home ?


Patdwfsyte

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In article <637qpk$3si$a...@204.179.92.155>, "smith."
<st...@magpage.com.nospam> writes:

> I have a Tom Jones true story, I know this for a fact,
>but I can't post it on a computer or tell anyone. It is
>about someone who gave him something he needed. That's all
>I will ever say! (It was someone who knows my aunt.) DSS
>
>

Did any part of what took place between Tom Jones
and the other person appear in the film " The Bridges of Madison County" ?

Patricia


smith.

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patdw...@aol.com (Patdwfsyte) wrote:
>In article <637pif$3si$9...@204.179.92.155>, "smith."
><st...@magpage.com.nospam> writes:
>
>> But I like his music and he
>>is one smart businessman and to tell the truth,I've seen so much
>>of Mick Jagger,it was refreshing to see David Bowie for a change.
>>So I say to him, Bravo Bowie! DSS
>>
>>
>
> He must have a fantastic business manager to
>push up his worth over that of Beatle Sir Paul .
>
>Patricia
>
>
>
Especially since someone told me he was not in the best condition
financially years ago???? Could that be? He has or had some property
on Mustique.
He did a very smart thing. He's offering shares in himself, I
think like a race-horse or a movie studio or something, isn't he?
(I might be wrong about this,but this is how I interpreted what
I think he may have done.) So he is literally a commodity?
An oddity who is now a commodity. Has a nice ring to it. I think
a commodity is better than just being a somewhat obscure oddity.
I saw one of his paintings once (Bowie). It had an appeal,the
painting that is. David Bowie looks the best he has ever looked right
now. I guess wealth agrees with him. DSS


Patdwfsyte

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"The tragedy touched the hearts of all of us in the kingdom",

"The whole of Swaziland is joined in sorrow with you and your family and
we pray that Almighty God and the support of millions around the world will
help you to overcome your grieving,"

............. King Mswati expressed his
condolences at the death of Diana, Princess of Wales.


smith.

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No. The activity centered on this story,never to be told,
the activity did not occur at or near a movie set or a video or
a recording studio. (It was when he was on tour & out of town.)
I'm sworn to secrecy,not really. The story it is not very nice
and it's funny also and when my mother was alive she must have
spread this story all over her town but it's old news now.
Sorry,I wouldn't repeat this but I know it's true. DSS

Patdwfsyte

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"We in Britain, like you, value tradition highly, but recognise - albeit
reluctantly sometimes - the need for considered change.

"In my view, a nation which loses its culture and its tradition has lost
its soul.

"Indeed the survival of civilised values, as we have inherited them from
our forebears, depends to a large extent on the survival of a nation's
sense of itself, of its traditional culture.

"And survival means not standing still, but constant reinvigoration.

"Tradition, in my view, is a living thing, but to be so it has to be made
contemporary in each generation. That is always the great challenge we face."

" the mere mention of tradition and traditional values sometimes sends
normally intelligent people into paroxysms of rage and indignation".

"Things are perhaps better here: as I understand it, virtually all Swazis,
whatever their political views, share an understanding of the importance of
preserving your culture and your great traditional ceremonies."


.............The Prince of Wales.


smith.

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ml7...@aol.com (Ml7601) wrote:
>On Wed, Oct 29, 1997 12:12 EST, "smith." <st...@magpage.com.nospam> wrote:
>
>>"smith." <st...@magpage.com.nospam> wrote:

>>>patdw...@aol.com (Patdwfsyte) wrote:
>>>>Beatle Sir Paul McCartney comes in at second place with a fortune of only
>>>>$868 million
>>>>
>>>>David Bowie is Great Britain's richest star with only $919 million
>>>>
>>>>Tom Jones was third with only $460 million
>>>> I have a Tom Jones true story, I know this for a fact,
>>but I can't post it on a computer or tell anyone. It is
>>about someone who gave him something he needed. That's all
>>I will ever say! (It was someone who knows my aunt.) DSS
>
>Ha! Donna, I too, have a Tom Jones story involving the same thing!! (are we in
> agreement as to what that "thing" is??) This was from a former co-worker of
> mine, she met Jones apres-concert in the mid-70's.....I think there are a
> *lot* of strories like this re. Mr. Jones floating about!!!
>
>Mel
>"It's not unusual to be loved by anyone........"


No,that's not it exactly or specifically . Will not say another
word about this. :-)

smith.

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gin...@ix.netcom.com (Gemini) wrote:
>On 29 Oct 1997 19:45:30 GMT, "smith." <st...@magpage.com.nospam>
>shared with us:

>
>>>> >I'm sworn to secrecy,not really. The story it is not very nice
>>and it's funny also and when my mother was alive she must have
>>spread this story all over her town but it's old news now.
>> Sorry,I wouldn't repeat this but I know it's true. DSS
>>
>Your mother never told you that saying you know something but not what
>it is, is worse than telling it in the first place? Shame on
>her.....vt


No, never heard that one. :-)

Patdwfsyte

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"We have been overwhelmed by the response for admission to Althorp Park next
summer, and we appeal to the public for their patience. Details regarding
admission

will be released on the 5th of January as well as a telephone line for all
enquiries."

The gates of the estate will be open from July 1, Diana's birthday, until
August 30.

The property will be closed on August 31, the anniversary of her death. "

.....spokesperson for Earl Spencer and family.


smith.

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richard...@virgin.net (Richard Fedrick) wrote:
>On 29 Oct 1997 19:53:05 GMT, "smith." <st...@magpage.com.nospam>
>wrote:

>
>> He did a very smart thing. He's offering shares in himself, I
>>think like a race-horse or a movie studio or something, isn't he?
>>(I might be wrong about this,but this is how I interpreted what
>>I think he may have done.)
>
>he didn't offer shares in himself, he sold a bond secured on his
>future royalty income. in plain language, he has borrowed $55 million
>today from investors, who will receive a healthy rate of interest (and
>repayment of the loan) paid for out of the income stream generated by
>mr. bowie's royalties and record sales. in effect, he is taking all
>his future earnings upfront.
>
>richard
>


Richard,
You are correct. I knew a big bond was involved,but to sell
a bond something must be offered in return,besides interest, and
the thing is not David Bowie himself but his royalty incomes.
Whatever he did,he was the first singer to do it and I think
it sounded like a big risk when I first heard of it but it
obviously worked for him! So good for him. I don't know if this is
similar to a reverse-mortgage or what but all I know is he got a
bundle of money,I hope he has the best financial experts and if they
were smart enough to think of this concept,they must be the best!
I can see him doing very well as an actor,painter and possibly
a director too. And mixer and producer and set design and I could
see him as a producer of a stage show bigger than "Phantom" which
could be an opera,contemporary,& I'm not even a Bowie fan or investor!
Donna

Patdwfsyte

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"Oh no, it's three times,"

"I'm going to do some filming with them when I get back."

...........said the Prince of Wales
after he "chatted " for the second time with the press who told him he was
brave to meet the Spice Girls twice. He is to attend their film premiere
rather than do a film.


Hal

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It's been rumored that the Spice Girls are just the Village
People in drag.>

Patdwfsyte

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"The Trustees of the Diana, Princess of Wales Memorial Fund have turned
to Comic Relief, the charity behind Red Nose Day, for advice from one of
their senior employees in tackling the vital work of setting up a Board of
Trustees and deciding the criteria for allocating the funds raised."


Patdwfsyte

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"The Nations Trust is doing wonderful work among the disadvantaged youth
of South
Africa and we are delighted that British artistes, such as the Spice
Girls, have
agreed to endorse the good work of this organisation in the form of a
concert."


................said Prince's Trust executive director Tom
Shebbeare .

Patdwfsyte

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"I am sure the trustees have missed out on a lot of money,"

"What we are seeing is a large number of commercially-inspired activities
claiming that they are giving a proportion of their funds to the Diana
Memorial Fund, but a number of these promotions fall outside the law."



....................Stephen Lee, director of
the Institute of Fundraising Managers

Patdwfsyte

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``May it be hoped that they will leave their weapons behind, to embark on
an exhaustive search for ways to put an end to this present venture to
pillage our dear ... country, condemned to disintegration, ruin, desolation
and desertification,''


.......................King
Norodom Sihanouk from a message given to the Cambodia Daily.

Patdwfsyte

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"They are my heroes. I don't want to get emotional - this is one of the
greatest moments of my life."

............said President Nelson Mandela
speaking of a meeting in his office with the Spice Girls.

Amid laughter, the Prince of Wales was asked: "Is this one of the greatest
moments of your life, Sir?"

"It's the second greatest moment," he replied.

"So what was the greatest?" a reporter asked.

"The first time I met them," Prince Charles said.


Alma dGoth

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In article <63e3sn$e...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, Hal
<Sander...@worldnet.att.net> writes:

>It's been rumored that the Spice Girls are just the Village
>People in drag.>
>
>

Nonsense! None of the Village People were that butch! ;)

Sable on a cross nebulee gules a lion sejant or crowned of the same

Patdwfsyte

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``There is certainly is a hopefulness and perhaps a more pragmatic sense
of what it will take to try to bring the parties together,''

``The president will stand with those who take risks for peace.''

" It is good to be back in circumstances more pleasant than on the last
visit. "



......................said Hillary Rodham Clinton


Gary Rumain

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In alt.gossip.royalty Patdwfsyte <patdw...@aol.com> wrote:
: "They are my heroes. I don't want to get emotional - this is one of the

So much for the PoW not having a sense of humor! <snort, guffaw, LOL!>

Susan Cohen


--
"Those who study history are doomed to watch others repeat it."

Patdwfsyte

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"At no stage has the Palace tried, either publicly or privately, to seek
special treatment on behalf of the Queen and members of the Royal Family."

"Buckingham Palace, and Sir Robert Fellowes in particular, has never
sought to create a privacy law `by the back door' in order to ban the media
from probing into the private lives of members of the Royal Family. "

"The Queen and her advisers have always taken the view that it is for
Parliament to come to a judgment about privacy matters."

..........said
the Palace.


Patdwfsyte

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"Their apparently deliberate co-operation with yesterday's Sunday Mirror
newspaper regarding coverage of the late Diana, Princess of Wales - a
long-standing client of the Daniel Galvin Salon - directly contravenes
their employee contract, which clearly states that no employee will betray
a client's confidence,"

A statement from the salon said
the two employees were not at work today and have been asked to attend a
disciplinary hearing within the next 24 hours.

Patdwfsyte

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"May I say how glad I am that the efforts of the people of this province
(KwaZulu-Natal) to settle their political differences in a peaceful way,
through discussion, are bearing fruit.

"It is heartbreaking that a place and people with so many advantages
should have been so plagued with violence at a time when so many historical
injustices were being righted.

"There is no point in pursuing political ends with a gun if members of
your own community are caught in the crossfire.

"The rich ethnic and political mix in KwaZulu-Natal should surely be a
cause of strength and pride, not division and death."

.............said the Prince of Wales.


Patdwfsyte

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"I have an understanding relationship with the Prince of Wales.

"My family is united in doing everything we can to help in the raising of
William and Harry."

Earl Spencer, who attended a Capetown banquet
along with his love Josie Barraine , President Nelson Mandela and the
Prince of Wales


Patdwfsyte

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"I would like to take this opportunity to convey my sons' and my own
gratitude to all those South Africans who took the time and trouble to
express there condolences.

"Their messages have been greatly appreciated - and there have been very,
very many of them. "

And over the last few days I have been made very aware of the special
importance to Africans of Diana's work to combat such things as Aids,
poverty and the use of landmines.

"Her efforts, I know, in these areas have brought a real difference to the
lives of very many people on this continent and, indeed, elsewhere."

............said the Prince of Wales .


Patdwfsyte

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President Mandela told the banquet of his sorrow at Diana's death.

"All South Africans would want me to take this opportunity to convey in
person our heartfelt condolences at the tragic event which afflicted your
family recently," said the president.

"With the rest of the world we mourned the loss of one who became a
citizen of the world through her care for people everywhere.

"Brief as your visit is, you will sense our nation's shared sorrow with
you and your family. May it give some small comfort in this time of grief,"
President Mandela told the prince.

Archbishop Desmond Tutu said grace at the banquet.

He said: "We thank you for the life of our president.

"We thank you for the life of Mother Theresa. We thank you for the life of
Princess Diana. And we thank you for the visit of His Royal Highness, The
Prince of Wales."


Patdwfsyte

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South Africa dedicated the destruction of their stockpile of landmines to
the late "

Princess Diana , who so bravely and graciously championed this noble cause".


..............said South African
Defense Minister Joe Modise.


Patdwfsyte

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Elton John's " Candle in the Wind 97 " is at number one on the new
Billboard Chart
once again. It has long passed Bing Crosby's " White Christmas " as best
selling
record of all time. Elton John has donated all proceeds of the song to the

Diana , Princess of Wales Memorial Fund.


Patdwfsyte

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"If one grew up in Britain one would have a hearty contempt for the
tabloid media because it was so despicable."

He went on: "The main body of tabloid journalism in Britain is evil in its
intent - it wants to destroy. They have no concept of the human soul.

"They are operating to increase circulation and to make their proprietors
richer and if it means people committing suicide, being killed in any way
or falling apart, having breakdowns or whatever, that's immaterial to them."


......................Charles
Spencer speaking in a radio interview in Cape Town.

Patdwfsyte

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"They have made clear in the past that they enjoy this, and their mother
was happy
to let them go to Sandringham each year, even though it meant her spending
Christmas alone. "


..............an unusual portion of the statement
from the Palace
dealing with William and Harry's " expected " but not yet announced plans
to spend a traditional Royal Christmas .


Patdwfsyte

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"Nelson Mandela is a very wise man - a remarkable man. I have great
respect and admiration for him, especially his ability to forgive after
spending so many years in prison.

"Imprisonment must do something to you - he was so forgiving."

"Laurens van der Post was the same after spending three years as a
prisoner-of-war of the Japanese - he forgave his captors."

..........said the Prince of Wales as he
disclosed that President Mandela had encouraged him to dance to the African
choir at Tuesday night's state banquet in Cape Town, "He does it with all
his guests - he takes them up to the balcony, to the choir, to dance."


Patdwfsyte

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In article <347cd72a...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, gin...@ix.netcom.com
(Gemini) writes:

>>The Prince of Wales spoke to Sporty Spice saying, "You're not wearing
>>platform shoes," he said, pointing to her plimsolls.
>>
>>
>One of Charles' forte's has always been his ability to make brilliant
>conversation....vt

............and this is the " new " softer
Charles .


Patdwfsyte

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In article <3476d0ad...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, gin...@ix.netcom.com
(Gemini) writes:

>> "I did my best for Britain."
>>
>
>> ................said the Prince of Wales,
>
>I'm intrigued by this portion of his quote. .....vt

I suppose he brought Prince Harry to
Southern Africa and Tiggy handled things well on the safari front while he
time and time again claimed Diana in death and held her close to the royal
heart in clear view as noted person after person expressed condolences for
her death . He began his own new life out from under her shadow, but now he
is a part of her legend.
He is no Charles Spencer when speaking .

Patricia


The Haleys

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Gemini wrote:
>
> On 1 Nov 1997 19:47:51 GMT, patdw...@aol.com (Patdwfsyte) shared
> with us:

> >
> >
> >The Prince of Wales spoke to Sporty Spice saying, "You're not wearing
> >platform shoes," he said, pointing to her plimsolls.
> >
> >
> One of Charles' forte's has always been his ability to make brilliant
> conversation....vt

One of the Spice Girls broke or sprained her ankle earlier this year
while wearing platform shoes. It was a biggish story in Britain.

Peggy

Patdwfsyte

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"I did my best for Britain."

"I'm mystified that people think I've changed. I'm just doing the things
I've always done."

"I've done my best. I do what I can for Britain - I don't do it for myself,"

"It's good, sometimes, to draw attention to the work being done by Britain
and Britons abroad. It's good for relations between Britain and South Africa."

................said the Prince of Wales,

adding that his only regret was that 15-year-old Prince William was unable
to join his brother Harry on the trip to Swaziland, Lesotho and South Africa.


Patdwfsyte

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"It was something I always wanted to do, to come and see Rorke's Drift,"

"I wanted to pay my respects to those who died, on both sides, and I sat
where it all happened,"

"It all seems so pointless now, the men were so brave, I was in tears,"


"It's not that far - good exercise,"

.........said the Prince of Wales of
his recent trip.

smith.

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patdw...@aol.com (Patdwfsyte) wrote:
>In article <3476d0ad...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, gin...@ix.netcom.com
>(Gemini) writes:
>
>>> "I did my best for Britain."
>>>
>>
>>> ................said the Prince of Wales,
>>
>>I'm intrigued by this portion of his quote. .....vt
>
> I suppose he brought Prince Harry to
>Southern Africa and Tiggy handled things well on the safari front while he
>time and time again claimed Diana in death and held her close to the royal
>heart in clear view as noted person after person expressed condolences for
>her death . He began his own new life out from under her shadow, but now he
>is a part of her legend.
>He is no Charles Spencer when speaking .
>
>Patricia
>
>
>


--


Charles,P of W,has an excellent voice and good tone. I love his
voice. I think he's a far better speaker than Earl Charles Spencer.
Charles,P of W, combined with a team of 2-3 speech-writers would
be great. I think he is capable of excellent speeches given a chance.
Give him a chance. He said some good things in Africa,too. DSS


Patdwfsyte

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In article <643a8t$974$0...@204.179.92.202>, "smith."
<st...@magpage.com.nospam> writes:

>Charles,P of W,has an excellent voice and good tone. I love his
>voice. I think he's a far better speaker than Earl Charles Spencer.
>Charles,P of W, combined with a team of 2-3 speech-writers would
>be great. I think he is capable of excellent speeches given a chance.
>Give him a chance. He said some good things in Africa,too. DSS>
>

I think Charles Spencer , who has been giving
these short speeches for years when something would happen in the family is
a brilliant angry
speaker, not afraid to speak of what is wrong . He should have gone into
politics . He
is rather the British " Mr. Smith Goes To Washington " as played by James
Stewart or the far darker " Its A Wonderful Life " playing the British
George Bailey.

Patricia


smith.

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--


Everybody wants to be eloquent. :-) DSS


Patdwfsyte

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"The ceremony is about hope for the future as well as remembrance for
those who made the supreme sacrifice,"

"We have no problem with what the Blair children were wearing - it was
heartwarming to see them there."

..........Chief Royal British Legion
spokesman Charles Lewis speaking to the issue that the children of Prime
Minister Blair wore sweatshirts plus poppies to the ceremony and that such
casual attire was not considered disrespectful to those who gave their
lives for their country. ( Is everyone a critic ?).


Patdwfsyte

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``One can't give thanks to God without undertaking Christian works,
defending, at every social level, respect and solidarity for our brothers,
especially the most defenseless and in need,'' the pope said at the
ceremony in St. Peter's Square.

``The example of the newly beatified is ever more eloquent and encouraging.''


.............Pope John Paul II.

Patdwfsyte

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"The pledge I gave was on the family's behalf, and we have honoured it and
will continue to do so.
"They have my number, and my sisters and my mother are there."
"I thought about who would make the address at her funeral. It was a
difficult thing, but I realised that it had to be me. It just flowed. It
was just something that came from my heart. I had no agenda," he said.
"I paid my respects to the Royal Family in the speech. If there had been a
rift among us I would never have been seen with Prince Charles twice during
his visit to South Africa,"
"It was something that came from my heart. I said it and I meant it and I
don't take a word back."
"My sister's death is so recent that I probably am not able to analyse
what effect it has had on me yet,"


.........................Charles Spencer.

Patdwfsyte

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"I would never try in any way to take on my sister's mantle," "She
brought a warmth and magic to everything she did. What I can bring is
totally different."

"From here I run my family's estate, which has many facets to it. It keeps
me very busy. I travel to England seven times a year," he said.


He said South Africans are "decent people with good family values who are
more accepting of others than are the British".


.............said Charles Spencer


Patdwfsyte

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"The main body of tabloid journalism in Britain is evil in its intent - it
wants to destroy. They operate on a level of sensationalism and
destruction. They have no concept of the human soul.

"They are operating to increase circulation and to make their proprietors

richer, and if it means people committing suicide, being killed in any way,


falling apart, having breakdowns or whatever, that's immaterial to them."

"Just because I was Diana's brother, they had to see me as a snob. I am
really a very serious person."

.........Charles Spencer


Patdwfsyte

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"Of course he has a coat - but he is from Scotland and is used to
inclement weather."


...........a British
Government source responded to questions as to why Foreign Secretary Robin
Cook wore only a dark grey suit in which to present his first wreath at the
Cenotaph in cold wet weather.


Susan Cohen

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Patdwfsyte wrote:

> In article <347cd72a...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, gin...@ix.netcom.com
> (Gemini) writes:
>

> >>The Prince of Wales spoke to Sporty Spice saying, "You're not wearing
> >>platform shoes," he said, pointing to her plimsolls.
> >>
> >>
> >One of Charles' forte's has always been his ability to make brilliant
> >conversation....vt
>

> ............and this is the " new " softer
> Charles .

Or, rather, the old, witty Charles, without being blocked by the
million-watt Diana
smile. Let's face it: he could have been twice as handsome, intelligent &
funny as
he is, & she would still have outshone him: she was a superstar.

Susan

Susan Cohen

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Gemini wrote:

> On 1 Nov 1997 19:47:51 GMT, patdw...@aol.com (Patdwfsyte) shared
> with us:
> >
> >

> >The Prince of Wales spoke to Sporty Spice saying, "You're not wearing
> >platform shoes," he said, pointing to her plimsolls.
> >
> >
> One of Charles' forte's has always been his ability to make brilliant
> conversation....vt

True, but how you could glean this out of a flat repetition, I don't know.

My guess is that he was teasing her for not being on the cutting edge of
"fashion (it was ugly in the 70's & it's ugly now!)".

Susan


Patdwfsyte

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   There is no doubt that she was looking for a new direction in her
life at this time. She talked endlessly of getting away from England,
mainly because of the treatment she received at the hands of the
newspapers.
       I don’t think she ever understood why her genuinely good
intentions were sneered at by the media, why there appeared to be a
permanent quest on their behalf to bring her down. It is baffling. My
own, and only, explanation is that genuine goodness is threatening to
those at the opposite end of the moral spectrum.
       It is a point to remember that of all the ironies about Diana,
perhaps the greatest is this; that a girl given the name of the ancient
goddess of hunting was, in the end, the most hunted person of the modern
age.
       She would want us today to pledge ourselves to protecting her
beloved boys William and Harry from a similar fate. And I do this here,
Diana, on your behalf. We will not allow them to suffer the anguish that
used regularly to drive you to tearful despair.
       Beyond that, on behalf of your mother and sisters, I pledge that
we, your blood family, will do all we can to continue the imaginative
and loving way in which you were steering these two exceptional young
men, so that their souls are not simply immersed by duty and tradition
but can sing openly as you planned.
       We fully respect the heritage into which they have both been
born, and will always respect and encourage them in their royal role.
But we, like you, recognize the need for them to experience as many
different aspects of life as possible, to arm them spiritually and
emotionally for the years ahead. I know you would have expected nothing
less from us.
       William and Harry, we all care desperately for you today. We are
all chewed up with sadness at the loss of a woman who wasn’t even our
mother. How great your suffering is we cannot even imagine.
       I would like to end by thanking God for the small mercies he has
shown us at this dreadful time; for taking Diana at her most beautiful
and radiant and when she had so much joy in her private life.
       Above all, we give thanks for the life of a woman I am so proud
to be able to call my sister: the unique the complex, the extraordinary
and irreplaceable Diana, whose beauty, both internal and external, will
never be extinguished from our minds.
       
      ..........Charles Spencer


Patdwfsyte

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 And here we come to another truth about her. For all the status,
the glamour, the applause, Diana remained throughout a very insecure
person at heart, almost childlike in her desire to do good for others so
she could release herself from deep feelings of unworthiness of which
her eating disorders were merely a symptom.
       The world sensed this part of her character and cherished her for
her vulnerability, whilst admiring her for her honesty. The last time I
saw Diana was on July the first, her birthday, in London, when typically
she was not taking time to celebrate her special day with friends but
was guest of honor at a charity fund-raising evening.
       She sparkled of course, but I would rather cherish the days I
spent with her in March when she came to visit me and my children in our
home in South Africa. I am proud of the fact that apart from when she
was on public display meeting President Mandela, we managed to contrive
to stop the ever-resent paparazzi from getting a single picture of her.
       That meant a lot to her.

..........Charles Spencer
   


Patdwfsyte

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   These are days I will always treasure. It was as if we’d been
transported back to our childhood, when we spent such an enormous amount
of time together, the two youngest in the family.
       Fundamentally she hadn’t changed at all from the big sister who
mothered me as a baby, fought with me at school and endured those long
train journeys between our parents’ homes with me at weekends. It is a
tribute to her level-headedness and strength that despite the most
bizarre life imaginable after her childhood, she remained intact, true
to herself. ‘I don’t think she ever understood why her genuinely good
intentions were sneered at by the media. ... My own ... explanation is
that genuine goodness is threatening to those at the opposite end of the
moral spectrum.’
........Charles Spencer
   


Patdwfsyte

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 Today is our chance to say “thank you” for the way you brightened
our lives, even though God granted you but half a life. We will all feel
cheated that you were taken from us so young and yet we must learn to be
grateful that you came along at all.
       Only now you are gone do we truly appreciate what we are now
without and we want you to know that life without you is very, very
difficult.
       We have all despaired at our loss over the past week and only the
strength of the message you gave us through your years of giving has
afforded us the strength to move forward.
       There is a temptation to rush to canonize your memory. There is
no need to do so. You stand tall enough as a human being of unique
qualities not to need to be seen as a saint. Indeed to sanctify your
memory would be to miss out on the very core of your being, your
wonderfully mischievous sense of humor with the laugh that bent you
double, your joy for life transmitted wherever you took your smile, and
the sparkle in those unforgettable eyes, your boundless energy which you
could barely contain.

...........Charles Spencer
   


Patdwfsyte

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I stand before you today the representative of a family in grief,
in a country in mourning before a world in shock.
       We are all united not only in our desire to pay our respects to
Diana but rather in our need to do so.
       For such was her extraordinary appeal that the tens of millions
of people taking part in this service all over the world via television
and radio who never actually met her, feel that they, too, lost someone
close to them in the early hours of Sunday morning. It is a more
remarkable tribute to Diana than I can ever hope to offer her today.
       Diana was the very essence of compassion, of duty, of style, of
beauty. All over the world she was a symbol of selfless humanity, a
standard-bearer for the rights of the truly downtrodden, a truly British
girl who transcended nationality, someone with a natural nobility who
was classless, who proved in the last year that she needed no royal
title to continue to generate her particular brand of magic.

...................Charles Spencer
     


Patdwfsyte

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Sentries at Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle and St James's Palace came
to attention and sloped arms for the two minutes, while the Queen's Life
Guards at Horse Guards "carried swords" for the two minutes.

........The Silence in Great Britain.


Patdwfsyte

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"At no point have I ever expressed any opinion whatsoever on the proposed
issuing of stamps in memory of my sister, Diana. "I am sorry that you seem
to be under the illusion that I have a view on this matter. I do not."


........expressed in a letter written
by Charles Spencer discussing the stamps dedicated to Diana the Palace said
were " on hold " to meet the wishes of the Spencer family.


Patdwfsyte

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"Dodi was never connected with drugs. The writer of this article manages
to produce only two witnesses to give the impression that he was.

"...The Fayed family has never heard of Ms Summers or Mr Martin."

"That a magazine could attempt to defame Dodi on the basis of such
spurious testimony is not reputable journalism.

"Dodi was not 'part of the jet set drug scene' and the phrase itself is as
threadbare as the rest of the piece."

.........said a spokesman from Harrod's
representing the al Fayed
family.


Janice Pearson

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Susan Cohen (ze...@smart.net) wrote:

: Or, rather, the old, witty Charles, without being blocked by the


: million-watt Diana
: smile. Let's face it: he could have been twice as handsome, intelligent &
: funny as
: he is, & she would still have outshone him: she was a superstar.

Ah, Susan. I think we are talking looks and charisma here. She had them
both. However, his ability to engage people is undisputable. At first I
think she would be the one you'd notice. However, if you were to sit down
to lunch with them and start chatting, I bet you'd be more impressed with
him by the end of it. Note I did not say that you wouldn't be impressed by
her, just that you'd be more impressed by him. You know I am a big Diana
fan but I am also realistic.

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Janice Pearson wrote:

> Susan Cohen (ze...@smart.net) wrote:
>
> : Or, rather, the old, witty Charles, without being blocked by the
> : million-watt Diana
> : smile. Let's face it: he could have been twice as handsome, intelligent &
> : funny as
> : he is, & she would still have outshone him: she was a superstar.
>
> Ah, Susan. I think we are talking looks and charisma here.

Yes, we are.

> She had them
> both. However, his ability to engage people is undisputable. At first I
> think she would be the one you'd notice. However, if you were to sit down
> to lunch with them and start chatting, I bet you'd be more impressed with
> him by the end of it. Note I did not say that you wouldn't be impressed by
> her, just that you'd be more impressed by him. You know I am a big Diana
> fan but I am also realistic.

I certainly didn't mean to dispute this. What I said was in response to a
remarkabout the public persona. Charles is too shy/reserved to ever come across

very well on that level. At best he comes across as earnest, dignified and
quietly
determined. At worst, clumsy & out of touch.

Susan


ranger27

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Pamela Gray wrote:

> What has changed is that, with Diana no longer with us, we can
> begin to take notice of him again because she no longer draws
> all the attention.
>
> Pamela

!!!
Why do you think he is so much more relaxed now??? Life certainly did get simpler
for him, in a great many ways.

Patdwfsyte

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 I don’t think she ever understood why her genuinely good
intentions were sneered at by the media, why there appeared to be a
permanent quest on their behalf to bring her down. It is baffling. My
own, and only, explanation is that genuine goodness is threatening to
those at the opposite end of the moral spectrum.
       It is a point to remember that of all the ironies about Diana,
perhaps the greatest is this; that a girl given the name of the ancient
goddess of hunting was, in the end, the most hunted person of the modern
age.
       She would want us today to pledge ourselves to protecting her
beloved boys William and Harry from a similar fate. And I do this here,
Diana, on your behalf. We will not allow them to suffer the anguish that
used regularly to drive you to tearful despair.
     
............Charles Spencer


Patdwfsyte

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............" Many believe that Kanga's emotional troubles stem from
rivalry with Camilla Parker Bowles over their close friendships with
Prince Charles.
It has to be said that Kanga was there first and was still single when the
Prince, who says she is the only woman who truly understands him, fell for
her bubbly personality.
Friends of the Tryons say she still adores the Prince and believes that he
feels the same way about her.
"Camilla has only ever been a mistress, she still is, and she always will
be," she says.
But if, in her fragile condition, she is to be believed then someone not
only wants her dead but has stolen the letters the heir wrote to her at a
time when they were emotionally intertwined.
"The box containing them is a Tryon family heirloom," she says It's not
just letters from the Prince, it contains all the letters I have received
from all of them (the Royal Family) over the years. I didn't even know it
had been stolen until I read about it in the papers." ..................
............an exclusive
interview with Kanga before she left for Australia with Christopher Hutchins.


Patdwfsyte

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"My wife fell from an upper window. How, we just don't know.
"She is a wonderful woman. It is terrible that one person can go through
such heartache, but she never lets it get her down.
"Our greatest hope is that she is such a battler. She always has been.
She has overcome such unbelievable adversity before we hope she can do it
again."


........... said Lord Tryon soon
after "Kanga " was found on the ground under a window at alcohol/ drug
rehab Farm Place.


smith.

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patdw...@aol.com (Patdwfsyte) wrote:
>The London Clinic was referring press calls last night 11/ 15 to Mr
>Mackillop spokesperson for " Kanga " ................
>
>
>
> "I can confirm that Lady Tryon died at 12.23pm today in the intensive
>care unit of the London Clinic.
>
>"With her were her brother, Derek Harper, and her elder daughter Zoe
>Tryon, who had flown over from Australia in the last few days to be with her."
>
>
>
>


You would think the family could have chosen a person with
a different last name as a spokesperson than Mac/kill/op
considering her death following surgery. It isn't (even) funny.
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Patdwfsyte

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In article <64nqlh$9qa$3...@204.179.92.154>, "smith."
<st...@magpage.com.nospam> writes:

>
> You would think the family could have chosen a person with
>a different last name as a spokesperson than Mac/kill/op
>considering her death following surgery. It isn't (even) funny.

He turned up publically when he went to her aid during
the time
her Lord " Ant " Tryon was telling the police that she was mentally ill
and blah blah.
He advised her how to handle this Mental Health Act situation and is
thought to
have brokered the deal which would let her serve this time in a hospital
spinal injury unit. She was such a lady when released seen staying at the
Ritz ( she was not allowed back into her home ) before leaving for
Australia to visit her mother.

Patricia

Patdwfsyte

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Prince Edward spoke out today to silence rumours that he was planning to
announce his engagement to Sophie Rhys-Jones when asked whether he was to
announce that he would be getting married, he promptly answered:


"No."

Patdwfsyte

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From the funeral service of Diana, Princess of Wales.
The choristers sing:
I would be true, for there are those that trust me.
I would be pure, for there are those that care.
I would be strong, for there is much to suffer.
I would be brave, for there is much to dare.
I would be friend of all, the foe, the friendless.
I would be giving, and forget the gift,
I would be humble, for I know my weakness,
I would look up, laugh, love and live.

Air from County Derry in G Petrie: The Ancient Music of Ireland
(1853) Howard Arnold Walter.


Patdwfsyte

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"It has been a challenge for us but, by trial and experience, I believe we
have achieved a sensible division of labour and a good balance between our
individual and joint interests.
"After 50 years' experience, I find there is a great temptation to give
advice. The trouble is that no two marriages are alike.
"However, I think the main lesson that we have learnt is that tolerance is
the one essential ingredient of any happy marriage."
"It may not be quite so important when things are going well, but it is
absolutely vital when the going gets difficult.
"You can take it from me that the Queen has the quality of tolerance in
abundance."
"It appears to us, at least, that we have been fairly busy over the last
50 years and the time has simply flashed past.
"Until, that is, you start looking back and try to recall what things were
like 50 years ago and you begin to realise how much has changed."

.........the Duke of Edinburgh.


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/19/97
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"I got back to this country from the Pacific in January 1946 and then in
the Autumn of 1947, we got married.
"It was a fairly drab world; the post-war recovery had hardly even begun
and practically everything was still rationed.
"Everyone seemed to think that our wedding was a very happy occasion and
brought a little colour back to life after the dreary war years. At any
rate, we certainly thought so."
( We had ).. "five happy years of fairly conventional married life",
"This period came to an abrupt end when the Queen had the melancholy duty
of succeeding her father after his premature death in 1952.
"She was 25 and I was 30, and we had two small children,"
"Life changed dramatically in many ways, but it had much less effect on
our married life than I anticipated.
"After an interval of ten hectic years, we had two more children and were
more or less settled into our new way of life."
..............the Duke of
Edinburgh.

Patdwfsyte

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Nov 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/19/97
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The Queen and Duke of Edinburgh celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary
tomorrow with a Westminster Abbey service attended by more than 200 British
and European royals. The royal anniversary couple will retrace their
footsteps down the aisle of the historic Abbey where on November 20, 1947
they were married. All senior members of the British Royal Family are due
to attend, including the Queen and Prince Philip's grandchildren, Prince
William, 15, Prince Harry, 13, Peter Phillips, 20, Zara Phillips, 16,
Princess Beatrice, nine, and Princess Eugenie, seven. Sarah, Duchess of
York is said by the Palace to have been invited but unable to attend due to
an appearance on CNN's Larry King Show , 8pm Eastern Time.


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/19/97
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Prince Edward was responsible for an evening of love songs and romance for
his mother and father's 50th anniversary. His list of guests included , the
senior British Royals, including the Prince of Wales and Princess Margaret,
there were six European Kings, eight Queens, and sundry Princes and
Princesses. Among the VIP guests were King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofia of
Spain, the King and Queen of Norway, King Constantine of Greece, King
Simeon and Queen Margarita of Bulgaria, Queen Fabiola of The Belgians, King
Michael and Queen Anne of Rumania, and the King and Queen of Sweden.


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/19/97
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The Palace has said that the royal houses of Belgium, Bulgaria, Denmark,
Greece,
Jordan, the Netherlands, Norway, Romania, Spain, Sweden and Yugoslavia
will all be
represented in the Abbey .Prime Minister Tony Blair and his wife Cherie
will join the
congregation along with couples from all over Britain who share the Queen and
Duke's 50th wedding anniversary.


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/19/97
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The Queen and Duke of Edinburgh Celebrate Their Golden Wedding Anniversary

A fanfare, sounded by the State Trumpeters of the Life Guards, will herald
the royal couple's arrival.

The hymn, Praise my soul the King of Heaven, will precede a reading from
Ephesians by the Queen's oldest grandchild, Peter Phillips.

The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr George Carey, will address the service
and say a private blessing for the Queen and Duke.

Dr Carey will also bless the marriages of the representative couples.

Roman Catholic Cardinal Basil Hume will lead prayers of intercession and
the Rev Dr Kathleen Richardson, Free Church Moderator, will say a prayer
for families and the life of Diana, Princess of Wales.


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/20/97
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The high point of the day will come in the morning when the Queen and her Duke
will attend the thanksgiving service at Westminster Abbey with 2,000 guests

Depending on the weather, the Queen and her Duke may walk the short distance
along Whitehall to Downing Street where they will have drinks with Mr and Mrs
Blair at about 12.20pm. The two couples will then walk to the Banqueting House
which is close to Downing Street.

The Queen and Tony Blair will be joined at their table by a 24-year-old Girl
Guide leader from North Wales, Helen Jones, as well as Gillian Shields, a
community policewoman from Cumbria who was voted the county's woman of the year
in 1996.

Mrs Blair and Prince Philip will host a similar cross-section of people at
their table, including the most decorated lifeboatman in Britain, Brian Bevan,
who is a member of the Humber crew. The man who broke the land speed record in
the British-built car Thrust, Andy Green, will also join their table.

There will be a host of showbusiness and sporting celebrities in attendance,
including Sir Cliff Richard, Shirley Bassey, Linford Christie, Sally Gunnell
and Rowan Atkinson.

Patdwfsyte

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"For it is a partnership. He works in his own right across a huge range of
charities and organisations and he is also there by the Queen's side, her
support and steadfast companion.

"Thank you, Sir, for all you have done to make the Queen's reign a success."

........ Prime Minister Tony Blair to speak at
luncheon.


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/20/97
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The Golden Wedding celebration included invitations to seven kings, 10 queens,

a grand duke, 26 princes and 27 princesses.


Patdwfsyte

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``Those of us looking on have known their vocation to have been at times a hard
one. For amidst all the grandeur and magnificence of the office has been the
sheer weight of work and responsibility - the times of sorrows and setbacks as
well as of joys and triumphs,''

``The fact that some marriages fail should not lead us to false deprecation of
marriage,'' Carey said. ``It is not something we can afford as a nation to
abandon because of the difficulties which may be experienced. Nor, by
celebrating marriage as we do today, do we rebuke or dismiss those for whom it
has never been a way of life or whose experience of marriage has been neither
as long-lasting nor as secure as the one we honor in this service.''

...........Archbishop of Canterbury .


Patdwfsyte

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Diana, whose death sparked an unprecedented outpouring of public grief, was
not forgotten in prayers at the service.

``We particularly remember with gratitude the life of Diana, Princess of
Wales,''
intoned The Rev. Kathleen Richardson, moderator of the Free Church Federal
Council.


Patdwfsyte

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"He is someone who doesn't take easily to compliments but he has, quite simply,
been my strength and stay all these years, and I, and his whole family, and
this and many other countries, owe him a debt greater than he would ever claim,
or we shall ever know,"

............Queen Elizabeth speaking of Prince
Philip

Patdwfsyte

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Nov 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/20/97
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During the Golden Wedding thanksgiving service the Archbishop of Canterbury
reminded the congregation of the importance of the words of that wedding
ceremony on November 20, 1947: "For better for worse, for richer for poorer, in
sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part."

smith.

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patdw...@aol.com (Patdwfsyte) wrote:
>When Prince Philip and I were married on this day 50 years ago, Britain had
>just endured six years of war, emerging battered but victorious. Prince Philip
>had served in the Royal Navy in the Far East, while I was grappling, in the
>ATS, with the complexities of the combustion engine and learning to drive an
>ambulance with care.
> "Today, Prime Minister, we accept your generous hospitality in a very
>different Britain.
> "The Cold War is over and our country is at peace. The economy in your
>charge, and which you inherited, is soundly based and growing.
> "And, during these last 50 years, the mass media culture has transformed our
>lives in any number of ways, allowing us to learn more about our fellow human
>beings than, in 1947, we would have thought possible.
> "What a remarkable 50 years they have been: for the world, for the
>Commonwealth and for Britain.
> "Think what we would have missed if we had never heard the Beatles, or seen
>Margot Fonteyn dance; never have watched television, used a mobile phone or
>surfed the Net -- or, to be honest, listened to other people talking about
>surfing the Net.
> "We would never have heard someone speak from the Moon; never have watched
>England win the World Cup, or Red Rum three Grand Nationals.
>

Someone,with authenticity,please,please.please tell me that there
was no reference made in her speech to a horse named "Red Rum".
Please tell me this isn't so!!! Whoever included that reference
in her speech needs to answer to her!!! It isn't funny. Patricia,
did you make this up,this horse reference? If so,it isn't funny.
I said I wouldn't post and I have to return to family obligations
which I am neglecting......If the mention of that horse was included
in her speech,someone needs to answer to the Queen. Who owns that
horse,if there is such a horse?????? This is a bad name. I do not
believe the Queen mentioned such a horse in her speech. I don't believe
this. If so,someone is playing a trick on her. Get new speech-writers,
please!!!! DSS (it is a school-yard,backwards thing)


Patdwfsyte

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Some of the 350 guests at the People's Banquet , given by the Government to the
Golden Wedding Anniversary couple were,
Former prime minister John Major,
Cricket hero Michael Atherton
Singer Kate Bush
Ballerina Darcy Bussell
Shirley Bassey
Lord Mayor of Belfast
Tennis ace Tim Henman
General Sir Charles Guthrie
Sir Cliff Richard

At 12.30 the hall at the Banqueting House in Whitehall was decked in gold
with pale gold tablecloths, uncut crystal glasses and bright yellow, orange and
white floral decorations adorned every table. The arrival of the Royal party
was signalled by a trumpet fanfare from the doors. The guests rose to their
feet and broke into applause as the Queen, wearing a royal blue coat and
wide-brimmed hat, and the Duke, entered. Prime Minister Tony Blair, with his
wife Cherie -- who looked as chic as ever in a mulberry suit and hat -- and
Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott followed close behind. A Master of
Ceremonies hushed the room a second time as the Prime Minister rose to speak,
paying a warm tribute to the Queen and her husband. As he told the Queen, on
behalf of the country, that she had "our loyalty, our love and our heartfelt
thanks for all your years of devotion to us", the guests -- from all walks of
life -- broke into spontaneous applause. There was more applause as Mr Blair
thanked the Duke of Edinburgh for "all you have done to make the Queen's reign
a success".


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/20/97
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"I chose that day deliberately because I knew that would mean my husband
wouldn't have an excuse for forgetting our anniversary - and he never has,"
said Mrs Margaret Smith of Glasgow.

Leslie & Veronica Hops said " "We were going to be married on the Saturday
but my mother was such a royalist she said we should bring our wedding
forward to have it on the same day as the Queen. She thought the world of
the Royal Family, and I always have, so I agreed. It was arranged that we
wouldn't get married until the afternoon so we could hear the Royal wedding
on the radio.The Queen has had a lot to bear these last few years. A lot of
people would have buckled and would not have survived in the way she is
doing. It's what marriage is about. You have got to be there for one
another. The longer you are together, you get closer and closer."

John & Jean Rainey said, "We had Spam sandwiches and scrambled dried egg
sandwiches, and chocolate eclairs because we couldn't afford a wedding
cake. We couldn't afford to go away so our honeymoon was a visit to the
pictures in the afternoon to see a Clark Gable film."

Pamela Gray

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Nov 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/20/97
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smith. wrote:
>
> patdw...@aol.com (Patdwfsyte) wrote:
snip

> > "We would never have heard someone speak from the Moon; never have watched
> >England win the World Cup, or Red Rum three Grand Nationals.
> >
>
> Someone,with authenticity,please,please.please tell me that there
> was no reference made in her speech to a horse named "Red Rum".
> Please tell me this isn't so!!! Whoever included that reference
> in her speech needs to answer to her!!! It isn't funny. Patricia,
> did you make this up,this horse reference? If so,it isn't funny.
> I said I wouldn't post and I have to return to family obligations
> which I am neglecting......If the mention of that horse was included
> in her speech,someone needs to answer to the Queen. Who owns that
> horse,if there is such a horse?????? This is a bad name. I do not
> believe the Queen mentioned such a horse in her speech. I don't believe
> this. If so,someone is playing a trick on her. Get new speech-writers,
> please!!!! DSS (it is a school-yard,backwards thing)

Sorry old bean. Red Rum was very famous and loved by many
people including me. It was quite natural for a horse-race loving
woman to allude to this beautiful creature. I wonder how many
Brits even thought of the "name backwards" thing until you
mentioned it.

Pamela

Patdwfsyte

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Nov 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/20/97
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"The work the Queen does in the Commonwealth is one of the great unsung stories
of our time," he will say.

"You are the symbol of unity in a world of insecurity, of continuity in a world
where nothing stays the same.

"In Britain, people often just don't know how many miles you travel up and down
the land, the places you visit, the people you meet.

"It is hard work. But in each place and with each person, you bring enormous
pleasure and joy; for each one, a memory never forgotten."

.........Prime Minister Tony Blair
speaking of the Queen


JEANSUE

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Nov 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/21/97
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> Someone,with authenticity,please,please.please tell me that there
>was no reference made in her speech to a horse named "Red Rum".

Why?


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/21/97
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Sarah , Duchess of York speaking on CNN's Larry King Live said ,

..."she didn't think it was right to go" after finding
that she was not invited to other celebrations.

"I in fact was going to be there on a Concorde flight,"

"But I then found out on Monday there was an amount of other events such as a
ball, a lunch, a tea, a breakfast and goodness knows what and so forth, which I
hadn't been invited to, which I didn't think was right."


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/21/97
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Sarah , Duchess of York says on tonight's Fox News Channel's " The Crier
Report "

``I said, 'How extraordinary they want me to be at the public service but they
won't

invite me to anything else, ..... I said, 'No, I don't want to play that
game.'''


smith.

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Nov 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/21/97
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aly <s....@virgin.net> wrote:
>smith. wrote:
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> It is "murder" spelled back-wards. It means nothing. It is
>> a school-yard joke in America. Children in school-yards play
>> games like Batman,Ninja Turtles & I guess violent murders.
>> When I went to school we played jump-rope,hop-scotch,and
>> would slide down a hill on a piece of old cardboard. Now
>> children re-enact movies that are violent.
>> I never heard of this horse until her speech. I found out
>> it is a popular and beloved race-horse in Great Britain apparantly.
>> DSS
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>Yes, REd-Rum was one of the favourite race horses of all time here in
>Engalnd, and a few years ago they had to put him down. The Queen, as a
>keen fan of racing, would have mentioned this. Nothing to do with games
>or murder.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Of course not,& to put down a horse is not murder either! That
is putting a horse out of its misery if it has a broken leg but
there are rehabilitation clinics for horses now that even have
whirlpools for the horses! The horse is immersed in a sling of
some kind & lowered into the water for therapy.
I don't expect the Queen to know about American play-ground games
& the pretend violence that stems from movies over here. What
used to be cowboys & indians or cops & robbers has evolved into
much more pretend violence on playgrounds that don't have much
supervision. If movies ever get less violent it may cease. DSS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

aly

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Nov 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/21/97
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Patdwfsyte

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Nov 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/21/97
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Elton John's " Candle in the Wind 97 " is number 1 on the Billboard chart,


Beatle Sir Paul's .''Paul McCartney's Standing Stone,'' London Symphony
Orchestra
is number one on the Billboard chart , Classical.

Patdwfsyte

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Nov 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/22/97
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"The horn on the Mercedes was blaring and there was smoke everywhere.

"I realised that this was a very serious accident and there were probably
fatalities, so I rang the emergency services on my mobile telephone."

"The back door was already open when I reached the car. There was a smell of
blood, fuel and burning.

"The driver was obviously dead and so was the male passenger in the back. An
off-duty fireman, who had stopped, was tending to the man in the front
passenger seat and I began examining the young woman in the back.

"I could see she was beautiful but, at that stage, I had no idea who she was."

The doctor said that the princess was half-kneeling, trapped in the well
between the front and back seats with her chin resting on her chest.

He went on back to his car to fetch medical equipment and an oxygen mask, and
as he returned he could hear the princess crying out in pain.

"I knew then that she was English and tried to comfort her as best I could, and
ask her where the pain was,"

"I said that the ambulance would soon be there and that everything would be OK
- all the things you say to soothe someone who is suffering.

"She kept saying how much she hurt as I gently put a resuscitation mask over
her mouth."

.............Dr Frederic
Mailliez


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/22/97
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"I said that the ambulance would soon be there and that everything would be OK
- all the things you say to soothe someone who is suffering.

"She kept saying how much she hurt as I gently put a resuscitation mask over
her mouth."

"If there were other words from the Princess I cannot remember them, and would
not repeat them if I could; there is a duty between doctor and patient. "I hope
she felt comfortable; I hope she heard my words. I don't know if she did, but
at least I tried to make her feel better."

After the princess lost consciousness the doctor waited for the ambulance to
arrive.

"I was told afterwards that it was only six minutes, but they were the longest
minutes of my life,"

"There was no sadness at first - I was too astonished to speak."

He said he spent hours "wondering if there was anything more I could have done
that might have saved her.

"The doctors who treated her have reassured me that no-one could have survived
with her injuries; they also said there were no last words. But still I have
the picture in my mind of the two young princes without their mother."

"I don't think a day will pass that I do not think about the princess and how
much she had to bear. We all need space and privacy, and yet the media gave her
none; she was pursued all her life and then hunted still, even in death."

................... Dr Frederic
Mailliez


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/23/97
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"The complexity of the legal issues arising from the tragic early death of
Diana, Princess of Wales, have prompted the various solicitors to review their
responsibilities with particular regard to protecting the interests of the two
princes."

"The Prince of Wales could seek to have the money returned because the
settlement was worked out so it would be enough for Diana to live on until she
was 85.

But the spokesman added that any dealings would be conducted in line with the
Queen's undertaking to deal with taxation in a "straightforward manner" when
she decided to pay income tax in 1993. "


...............Palace discussing problems with
Diana's will not containing her divorce settlement amount.


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/23/97
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``The Queen is not moving out of Buckingham Palace. There are no plans for her
to do so,''

``There are no short-term plans to move members of the family out of Kensington
Palace,'' she said, but added that access to the palaces and to royal art
collections are constantly under review. ``I can't speculate about long-term
plans,''


............... said a spokeswoman for Buckingham
Palace.


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/24/97
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的 stand before you today the representative of a family in grief, in a
country in mourning before a world in shock.

We are all united not only in our desire to pay our respects to Diana
but rather in our need to do so.

For such was her extraordinary appeal that the tens of millions of
people taking part in this service all over the world via television and
radio who never actually met her, feel that they too lost someone close
to them in the early hours of Sunday morning. It is a more remarkable
tribute to Diana than I can ever hope to offer her today. ............"

...................Earl Spencer
speaking at funeral of Diana.


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/24/97
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"Diana was the very essence of compassion, of duty, of style, of beauty.
All over the world she was a symbol of selfless humanity, a standard
bearer for the rights of the truly downtrodden, a truly British girl who
transcended nationality, someone with a natural nobility who was
classless, who proved in the last year that she needed no royal title to
continue to generate her particular brand of magic. Today is our chance
to say thank you for the way you brightened our lives even though God
granted you but half a life. We will all feel cheated that you were
taken from us so young and yet we must learn to be grateful that you
came along at all...................."
...............Earl Spencer


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/24/97
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" There is a temptation to rush to canonize your memory. There is no need
to do so. You stand tall enough as a human being of unique qualities not
to need to be seen as a saint. Indeed to sanctify your memory would be
to miss out on the very core of your being, your wonderfully mischievous
sense of humor with the laugh that bent you double, your joy for life
transmitted wherever you took your smile, and the sparkle in those
unforgettable eyes, your boundless energy which you could barely
contain............."


...................Earl Spencer.


Patdwfsyte

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Nov 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/24/97
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" She would want us today to pledge ourselves to protecting her beloved
boys William and Harry from a similar fate. And I do this here, Diana,
on your behalf. We will not allow them to suffer the anguish that used
regularly to drive you to tearful despair.

Beyond that, on behalf of your mother and sisters, I pledge that we,
your blood family, will do all we can to continue the imaginative and
loving way in which you were steering these two exceptional young men so
that their souls are not simply immersed by duty and tradition but can
sing openly as you planned.

We fully respect the heritage into which they have both been born, and
will always respect and encourage them in their royal role. But we, like
you, recognize the need for them to experience as many different aspects
of life as possible to arm them spiritually and emotionally for the
years ahead. I know you would have expected nothing less from us."

....................Earl Spencer .

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