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Parakeet

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Jul 6, 2004, 2:34:00 PM7/6/04
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Press Release Source: Malibu Wellness, Inc.

Best and Worst Cities for Hair Color
Tuesday July 6, 9:00 am ET


MALIBU, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 6, 2004--Blondes have more fun longer
in both Detroit, Mich. and Portland, Ore., the two top-ranked cities in the
U.S. for blonde hair staying blonde and not becoming muddy or discolored,
according to research conducted by Malibu Wellness, Inc., a manufacturer of
hair care and skin care products. Detroit and Portland aren't just for
blondes, however - they also rank the highest among all hair colors for
color vibrancy and longevity.
Other top-ranked color-friendly cities include:

-- Montgomery, AL -- San Francisco, CA
-- Atlanta, GA -- New York City, NY
-- Seattle, WA -- Sacramento, CA
-- Boston, MA -- Raleigh, NC
The study is based on an analysis of 100 major cities' local water quality
reports over the past year. "While the water is perfectly safe to drink in
all cities, minerals and other elements put into the water to make it safe
can wreak havoc on hair and skin," said Malibu Wellness founder and CEO Tom
Porter.

The quantity of minerals found in the water supply such as calcium, copper
and magnesium; the types of oxidizers such as chlorine; and pH levels all
have significant effects on hair, particularly hair color. Other factors
affecting color include the age and components of the pipes transporting
the water. "Combined together, these factors can help determine the texture
of the hair as well as predict the success or failure rates of salon
chemicals on hair," Porter said.

Color-friendly cities have the least amount of minerals in the water supply
(generally 75 parts per million or less), leaving hair color vibrant and
reformulation unnecessary.

Worst Cities for Hair Color

"The listing of cities where water conditions are a problem for color and
other chemical applications is long and extensive," said Porter. Water
labeled "hard" or "very hard," according to its overall mineral levels
(generally 50 parts per million and up), causes hair color difficulties,
particularly for red-heads. Hair color seldom stays vibrant, and salon
professionals must constantly reformulate color to achieve the desired
results. Depending on how often hair is exposed to water, color can fade in
a matter of weeks.

Cities around the country ranking worst for color include:

-- Jacksonville, Fla. -- Phoenix, AZ
-- Santa Ana, CA -- Scottsdale, AZ
-- Cincinnati, OH -- Las Vegas, NV
-- Mesa, AZ -- Salt Lake City, UT
-- Indianapolis, IN -- Oklahoma City, OK
Most of Southern, Calif., especially San Diego and the communities
surrounding Los Angeles, also rank among the worst cities for color, Porter
said.

For better, consistent color every time, Porter advises clients to either
test their water at home for hardness or bring in a water sample to their
hair stylist to test for them. The hair stylist can then provide an
in-salon treatment prior to color application, such as the Malibu MakeOver,
which removes minerals from the hair that prevent color from depositing
properly. You can obtain a free water test strip by calling 1.800.622.7332
or by visiting www.WellnessSalon.com and clicking on "Ask a Wellness
Expert."

About Malibu Wellness, Inc.

Tom Porter, founder and CEO of Malibu Wellness, Inc., pioneered the use of
the L-ascorbic acid form of fresh-dried Vitamin C in hair and skin care
products in 1985. The company's philosophy is Total Oxidation Management,
which includes making smart lifestyle choices along with the regular
topical use of Vitamin C and Vitamin E. Malibu Wellness brands include
Malibu 2000 and EC Mode.

maryanne kehoe

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Jul 7, 2004, 12:31:16 AM7/7/04
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I think some of the salon-color you get isn't as good as what you can
get out of a box.

Maryanne----devotee of Ultress X47 Burgundy


OT: Best and Worst Cities for Hair Color

Group: alt.gossip.celebrities Date: Tue, Jul 6, 2004, 11:34am (EDT-3)
From: ab...@spamabuse.org (Parakeet)

Tina

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Jul 7, 2004, 3:55:31 PM7/7/04
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>Worst Cities for Hair Color
>"The listing of cities where water conditions are a problem for color
>and other chemical applications is long and extensive," said Porter.
>Water labeled "hard" or "very hard," according to its overall mineral
>levels (generally 50 parts per million and up), causes hair color
>difficulties, particularly for red-heads. Hair color seldom stays
>vibrant, and salon professionals must constantly reformulate color to
>achieve the desired results. Depending on how often hair is exposed to
>water, color can fade in a matter of weeks.

<snip>

Maryanne----devotee of Ultress X47 Burgundy wrote:
>I think some of the salon-color you get isn't as good as what you can
>get out of a box.

You're kidding right? Some of the worse color is the kind out of the box. The
chemicals you get from the salon are stronger than the stuff out of the box.
Although there's a better selection of drugstore hair dye than there was around
20 years ago. It depends on what you're using the color for. If you're just
changing your color or doing some highlighting , the home version is fine. If
it's to cover gray I haven't found a natural looking shade of red out of a box
that is also capable of covering my gray yet. Fading is always a problem with
both but I would much rather allow a professional colorist deal with it than
me.

Just my opinion of course...

::::::Tina::::::

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Sierra

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Jul 7, 2004, 4:07:29 PM7/7/04
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"Tina" <lisa...@aol.combambam> wrote in message
news:20040707155531...@mb-m27.aol.com...

> >Worst Cities for Hair Color
>
> <snip>
>
> Maryanne----devotee of Ultress X47 Burgundy wrote:
> >I think some of the salon-color you get isn't as good as what you can
> >get out of a box.
>
> You're kidding right? Some of the worse color is the kind out of the box.
The
> chemicals you get from the salon are stronger than the stuff out of the
box.
> Although there's a better selection of drugstore hair dye than there was
around
> 20 years ago. It depends on what you're using the color for. If you're
just
> changing your color or doing some highlighting , the home version is fine.
If
> it's to cover gray I haven't found a natural looking shade of red out of a
box
> that is also capable of covering my gray yet. Fading is always a problem
with
> both but I would much rather allow a professional colorist deal with it
than
> me.
>
> Just my opinion of course...
>
>
>
>
>
> ::::::Tina::::::
>


The only time I had color done at a salon, they really fucked up my hair.
Instead of a nice dark auburn, it was literally crayon red. Never went to a
salon again after that. Now I do my hair at home and it looks just like Kate
Winslet's in "Titanic". I have some grey, but it covers fine (Feria #66).


maryanne kehoe

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Jul 8, 2004, 12:38:29 AM7/8/04
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The color wheel from Clairol Professional doesn't match a lot of the
store-bought color. For example, their burgundy shade is a lighter tone,
(and they have all shades of blonde---not fair!) Most salons here in
Atlanta use the Clairol range and the several times I have had color
professionaly done, I wasn't happy with the results. OTOH, since using
Ultress, I have had several hairdressers tell me the color looks
professionally done--when I tell them it "comes out of a box", their
jaws drop.

The choice is much better in salons overseas (such as the Yves Rocher
salons.)



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Group: alt.gossip.celebrities Date: Wed, Jul 7, 2004, 7:55pm (EDT+4)
From: lisa...@aol.combambam (Tina)

maryanne kehoe

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Jul 8, 2004, 12:40:00 AM7/8/04
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I've tried Feria---the color didn't take on my hair and Garnier
Nutriesse (sp?) was even worse!



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Group: alt.gossip.celebrities Date: Wed, Jul 7, 2004, 8:07pm (EDT+4)
From: xle...@comcast.net (Sierra)

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maryanne kehoe

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Jul 9, 2004, 12:42:26 AM7/9/04
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The Garnier boxes in the UK look like they will fall apart--their color
offerings would make Mrs. Munster happy. And their ads are on tv all the
time over there.



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Group: alt.gossip.celebrities Date: Wed, Jul 7, 2004, 11:54pm (EDT-3)
From: pussyc...@meow.com (pussycatdoll)
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 00:40:00 -0400, atl...@webtv.net (maryanne kehoe)
wrote:

I've tried Feria---the color didn't take on my hair and Garnier
Nutriesse (sp?) was even worse!

I'll concur about the Garnier. An absolute nightmare that took
professional services to undo.

Tina

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Jul 9, 2004, 2:43:00 AM7/9/04
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"Sierra" <xle...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<5KYGc.25066$JR4.17249@attbi_s54>...

Well you obviously had a bad stylist who didn't know how to color
hair. I also had a someone screw up my haircolor. It happens. Just
like I've had bad haircuts. The trick is finding a colorist you know
does good color. Walking into a strange salon and getting a color done
is not a good idea.

I didn't have a good experience with Feria or L'Oreal preference. I
have alot of concentrated gray in the front of my face and it did not
cover it enough. There was a noticeable difference between the color
on the new growth and the rest of my hair which on white hair looks
pink. I had 3 different colors going on...it was a mess. Plus there
wasn't enough color to cover all my hair so I had to buy two kits. All
in all home coloring was not a good experience for me. I'd much rather
leave it to an expert.

Tina

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Jul 9, 2004, 2:54:12 AM7/9/04
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atl...@webtv.net (maryanne kehoe) wrote in message news:<13940-40E...@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>...

> The color wheel from Clairol Professional doesn't match a lot of the
> store-bought color. For example, their burgundy shade is a lighter tone,
> (and they have all shades of blonde---not fair!) Most salons here in
> Atlanta use the Clairol range and the several times I have had color
> professionaly done, I wasn't happy with the results. OTOH, since using
> Ultress, I have had several hairdressers tell me the color looks
> professionally done--when I tell them it "comes out of a box", their
> jaws drop.
>
> The choice is much better in salons overseas (such as the Yves Rocher
> salons.)

You don't have to go overseas to get good hair color. I'm sure people
in Europe use the same professional color that they do here in the
Western Hemisphere. Just because you went to a couple salons in
Atlanta who happened to use Clarol doesn't mean they all use
Clarol.Unless it was one of those chains like Great Clips or Gene
Juarez. In the salon I've been going to, it's up to the stylist to
decide on the brand of color. The brand my stylist is currently using
on my hair is Matrix. But she's used Redken, Goldwell and Goldwell
before too. Matrix has had the most staying power for me.

But hey, if you like your Ultress Burgundy go for it.

mslinda

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Jul 9, 2004, 3:24:22 AM7/9/04
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My best friend in Tampa uses Goldwell and gets great auburn color and
coverage for her gray. People complement her color constantly and think
she's a *real* redhead. But I know better. <g>

Linda C.

mc

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Jul 9, 2004, 9:02:27 AM7/9/04
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How about the outskirts of London circa 1977? Depending on your mood,
they could be both best *and* worst.

MC
Keeper of Giovanni Ribisi!

mc

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Jul 9, 2004, 9:14:17 AM7/9/04
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lisa...@aol.combambam (Tina) wrote in message news:<20040707155531...@mb-m27.aol.com>...

> >Worst Cities for Hair Color
> >"The listing of cities where water conditions are a problem for color
> >and other chemical applications is long and extensive," said Porter.
> >Water labeled "hard" or "very hard," according to its overall mineral
> >levels (generally 50 parts per million and up), causes hair color
> >difficulties, particularly for red-heads. Hair color seldom stays
> >vibrant, and salon professionals must constantly reformulate color to
> >achieve the desired results. Depending on how often hair is exposed to
> >water, color can fade in a matter of weeks.
>
> <snip>
>
> Maryanne----devotee of Ultress X47 Burgundy wrote:
> >I think some of the salon-color you get isn't as good as what you can
> >get out of a box.
>
> You're kidding right? Some of the worse color is the kind out of the box. The
> chemicals you get from the salon are stronger than the stuff out of the box.
> Although there's a better selection of drugstore hair dye than there was around
> 20 years ago. It depends on what you're using the color for. If you're just
> changing your color or doing some highlighting , the home version is fine.

I've been happy with Nuance for quick highlighting.

But what's with those boxes that claim to wash out in 24 shampoos? I
notice the color months later, and every salon worker I ask told me,
oh yeah they don't, particularly if you have to concoct the solution
by mixing (which I haven't seen any other way).

Of course there is nothing like a good foil! Just had one and it
looks very natural. I didn't want the look that says, oh she just got
her hair foiled. Costs a lot more, but worth it!

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Tina

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Jul 9, 2004, 1:10:00 PM7/9/04
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Mcsquared wrote:
>I've been happy with Nuance for quick highlighting.
>
>But what's with those boxes that claim to wash out in 24 shampoos? I
>notice the color months later, and every salon worker I ask told me,
>oh yeah they don't, particularly if you have to concoct the solution
>by mixing (which I haven't seen any other way).
>
>Of course there is nothing like a good foil! Just had one and it
>looks very natural. I didn't want the look that says, oh she just got
>her hair foiled. Costs a lot more, but worth it!

I've been tempted to do a foil or quick highlight on my hair but wasn't sure
how that would interact with my hair color....or if I want to pay the price for
both if I had it done in the salon. A girl at work had one done with 2
different colors - a gold and red on her medium brown hair and it looked really
pretty. I'll have to look into Nuance.

I know what you mean about that wash out stuff still clinging to your hair way
after the 24 washes. I did it once to freshen my color before I went to get my
root touch up. I thought it was too subtle for anyone to notice but my hair
stylist did 3 weeks later! I've also tried using a temporary conditioning rinse
that is supposed to last a few days. It's not as clingy but the colors are
limited. Goldwell makes it.


::::::Tina::::::

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Tina

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Jul 9, 2004, 1:22:51 PM7/9/04
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>On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:24:22 GMT, mslinda <msl...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:

>
>>My best friend in Tampa uses Goldwell and gets great auburn color and
>>coverage for her gray. People complement her color constantly and think
>>she's a *real* redhead. But I know better. <g>


Oh you mean they actually have something other than CLAIROL in salons down
south? Amazing...pass that onto Maryanne would ya?

People think I'm a natural redhead too which is a testiment to my hair
stylist's skills as a colorist.

maryanne kehoe

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Jul 9, 2004, 7:00:18 PM7/9/04
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Will check it out---I've used the Goldwell shampoos for color-treated
hair and they are great!



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Group: alt.gossip.celebrities Date: Fri, Jul 9, 2004, 5:22pm (EDT+4)
From: lisa...@aol.combambam (Tina)

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:24:22 GMT, mslinda <msl...@earthlink.net> wrote:
My best friend in Tampa uses Goldwell and gets great auburn color and
coverage for her gray. People complement her color constantly and think
she's a *real* redhead. But I know better. <g>
Oh you mean they actually have something other than CLAIROL in salons
down south? Amazing...pass that onto Maryanne would ya?
People think I'm a natural redhead too which is a testiment to my hair
stylist's skills as a colorist.
::::::Tina::::::
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