New Book: Carolyn Bessette was a drug addict and abusive of JFK Jr.
Meg
A few questions after reading this article:
1. Clearly she was nuts. Who would ever EVER have turned down JFK Jr.
for sex?
2. How do you "squash" a VCR?
3. I am wondering if she flew off the handle on the plane and caused
him to either get distracted or literally knocked him out.
4. Was she like this before they mnarried, or did she hide it well? If
so why did he marry her?
I feel bad for him. He seems to have been a genuinely nice guy and
deserved much better.
Book: JFK Jr.'s wife had drug problem
Monday, June 30, 2003 Posted: 4:32 PM EDT (2032 GMT)
A new Kennedy family biography details problems in John F. Kennedy
Jr.'s marriage.
LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- By the time they died in a 1999
plane crash, John F. Kennedy Jr., and his wife, Carolyn Bessette, were
living a life of separate beds and violence, and Bessette was
struggling with a drug problem, according to a new book by Kennedy
family biographer Edward Klein excerpted in Vanity Fair on Monday .
In "The Kennedy Curse: Why Tragedy Has Haunted America's First Family
for 150 Years," Klein said that two days before he died, Kennedy, the
only son of assassinated U.S. President John F. Kennedy, told a friend
his marriage was deteriorating.
"It's got to stop. Otherwise we're headed for divorce," Kennedy told
the friend in a call from the Stanhope Hotel, where Klein said he took
refuge from his wife's cocaine habit and violent temper.
"I want to have kids but whenever I raise the subject with Carolyn,
she turns away and refuses to have sex with me," Kennedy told the
friend. He had picked out a name, Flynn, for the son he dreamed of
having, Klein reported.
Klein quoted Bessette's fashion industry friends as saying it was
known she was a heavy user of drugs, and that Kennedy caught her
snorting lines of cocaine with friends at the couple's New York
apartment. "You're a cokehead," Kennedy screamed at his wife.
A staff member from Kennedy's political magazine, George, told of a
dinner in which Bessette made at least a half dozen trips to the
bathroom, returning to the table with white rings around her nostrils.
"We went from bar to bar, and she wanted to come over to my apartment,
but I said no, because I knew it would be an all-nighter," the friend
said. "I ... dropped her off at 3 a.m."
The next morning, Kennedy asked why the staffer and his wife were out
so late. The staff member replied: "A better question is why your wife
didn't want to go home."
Cheating heart
According to friends, Kennedy worried that Carolyn was cheating on him
with old flame, Michael Bergin, a "Baywatch" actor and former model of
Calvin Klein underwear. They continued their affair even after
Bessette had moved in with Kennedy, Klein, a Vanity Fair contributing
editor as well as Kennedy biographer, said.
Although Bergin cut off the affair after Bessette's marriage, she
continued to taunt her husband with Bergin.
Klein said the actor also revealed Carolyn's violent side in an
incident in which Bessette got angry after seeing him light an
ex-girlfriend's cigarette at a bar.
She showed up at Bergin's door and threw two heavy candles through a
window and a mirror, shattering both. "Then she knocked my television
set and VCR onto the floor and jumped on my VCR and squashed it,"
Bergin told Klein.
"I ran out of the apartment. I'm very athletic and fast, but she
caught up with me and started yelling at me and taunting me, calling
me a baby."
Kennedy's friends suspected that something similar happened to him
when he was rushed to an emergency room for an operation to repair a
severed nerve. Kennedy said the injury was an accident, but he had
told friends that he felt trapped in an abusive relationship. "Carolyn
was like a wild horse," the acquaintance from George told Klein. "She
had a trash mouth. ... She used to call John a fag all the time."
Public scrutiny drove Bessette into depression, the friend said. She
refused to leave their apartment and spent long periods crying,
telling friends that she hated "living in a fishbowl." Klein said
Carolyn reportedly stormed out of a marital counselor's office when
her drug use was raised.
Klein said Bessette's self-absorption made her late for the fatal 1999
plane ride with her husband and sister, who had arrived at the airport
in New Jersey while it was still light. The plane, piloted by Kennedy,
went down in darkness off the coast of Martha's Vineyard near Cape
Cod, Massachusetts.
Klein quotes a hair colorist named Colin Lively as saying he saw
Carolyn order a pedicurist to apply her toenail polish three times
that day to match a fabric she had brought to the salon. During the
pedicure, her mobile phone rang over and over, Lively told Klein.
"What?" she said impatiently into the phone. "I told you I'm getting a
pedicure."
CRobin4564
CarolR
Quatorzejames
and spat at the papparazzi camera.
gosh, i loved it.
no star has come close since.
Andrewjmilner
on the Kennedy family gravesite.
Roxie
>so why did he marry her?
Because all rich, nice, and gorgeous men marry bitches.
George Harrison: "Hi Homer, I'm George Harrison."
Homer Simpson: "OH MY GOD - Where did you get that brownie?!!"
Ag9541
light. If any of it's true I agree that she sounds like she was a manic
depressive.
DASBABY932
>>>>Maybe she hid it? Before they were married, she looked VERY different
-- long, wavy brown hair, a more curvaceous figure, full eyebrows, she
smiled and she wore jeans. Afterward, she became a grimacing, plucked
(facially) bald, almost platinum blonde stick in designer outfits.<<<
I have mixed feelings. I'm sure she was no saint. But I also think JFK's male
friends were jealous, jealous, jealous, jealous, jealous (of CB). Bunch of
bitches.
Second, I number only one coke user among my acquaintances/friends (that I know
of). She (my friend) of course, has other acquaintances/friends who use coke.
In no case, as far as I understand, no matter how hard they are partying, do
they go to the bathroom and use the coke, then return w/their nostrils ringed
with the stuff. Wishful, disparaging thinking, IMO. Someone may be out of
their minds, but I just have trouble believing her coming back from the can
with outlines around her nostrils. In the gutter, that's hard to find, let
alone in someone's loft.
I think a lot of JFK's guy friends flattered themselves that they had influence
in his life, and their lives were thus rendered significant (go figure, but I
know some of them thought that way) and when he fell in love and semi left the
tribe, they got pissy and blamed the chick.
I do think she butchered her appearance for awhile after the wedding. For the
years they dated, all around NY she'd be in long, wavy light brown hair
w/blonde streaks, very striking, very athletic, not prissy looking. Then for
awhile, post-matrimony, she went platinum with almost bald eyebrows. But in
the last eight months or so of her life she seemed to be relaxing a lot of
that.
njs
"Brandy Alexandre" <bra...@kamikaze.org > wrote in message
news:Xns93AAD1CC095...@216.168.3.50...
> Ag9541 <ag9...@aol.com>, with thought and calculation, said in
> alt.gossip.celebrities:
>
> > I was just reading this on aol. Seems she is always painted in an
> > unflattering light. If any of it's true I agree that she sounds
> > like she was a manic depressive.
> >
>
> Jr. has gotten with the media from time to time, you will never hear
> anyone say a bad word about him. But Bessette was "approved." The
> fishbowl excuse for her terrorism wears thin after a while. I wouldn't
> be surprised if she got into a physical spat that threw the stick
> forward and crashed the plane.
I don't know about that, since the flying conditions were bad, anyway, and
he was out of his element. But it's clear she was a hothead, if not a
cokehead, as well. Remember that fight in the park, she looked positively
abusive. Some guys really dig that. She always looked like she'd been
crying, to me. High, high maintenance woman. What the hell did she do all
day long, anyway? Just pedicures and manicures and hair bleaching? She
really was attractive when she had more weight on, and had thick
brown/highlighted hair. Her hair was so full and wavy before, I can't figure
out how she got it so sleek and straight in later years. It looked as if
she'd thinned it out. Or it fell out on its own from all the bleach. I never
cared for her, something just wasn't right, there.
Meg
I thought she was beautiful at their wedding, and she was blonde
there. After their death, there was a photo spread of her in Vanity
Fair, she was playing with her dog, and looked so athletic, real, and
warm. I was amazed, because outside the wedding, I never thought she
was beautiful before.
I don't think JFK Jr's friends made this up. There's evidence stuff
was going badly. Everyone at his magazine heard him telling her to get
her stuff and get out of his life 4 days before they died. Her ex bf
testifies to her awful temper. He was living in a hotel. I mean, what
more do you want?
I do feel sorry for him. Wish he had married Daryl, who really did
love him.
Kennebunk_guy
Frankly, I always thought she was ugly. Now that's not a judgement on
her personal demons!
Moe
>>
>> 1. Clearly she was nuts. Who would ever EVER have turned down JFK Jr.
>> for sex?
>>"Carolyn
>> was like a wild horse," the acquaintance from George told Klein. "She
>> had a trash mouth. ... She used to call John a fag all the time."
So JFK Jr is a closet case?
Charli
> love him.
On a TV documentary I saw, a long-time family friend was interviewed.
He said that JFK Jr.'s relationship with Daryl was very tempestuous,
that the two of them didn't bring out the best in each other when they
were together.
I suspect JFK Jr. was drawn to strong-willed women (similar to his
mother Jackie), and that emotionally he was just as volatile as Daryl
and Carolyn Bessette.
Most likely Carolyn was reasonably well-adjusted while she and John
were dating: She was an attractive woman with a great job working for
Calvin Klein, and she was only partially in the public spotlight. But
after the wedding, all that changed. That may have triggered her
depression and (increased?) drug use.
It's too bad when a book like this comes out and, truthfully or not,
tarnishes her image because, unfortunately, she can't defend herself
against the allegations. It must be very painful and frustrating for
her family.
Sophie
"Charli" <rambli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I think this is the first time I've seen anyone mention *HER* family. Thank
you. Sheesh, everyone goes on and on about a Kennedy dying. On that day
the Bessette family lost 2 loved ones for goodness sake, but no one seems to
care about that.
I also agree, whether she was those things or not, writing a book about it,
making money off of it, when she's dead and can't defend herself, seems
wrong IMO.
Sara
It is a creepy way to make money isn't it? Has anyone seen this author
interviewed yet? I'm sure he'll be making the rounds and I don't
understand why he calls himself a 'biographer'. At least Kitty Kelly
admits to being a plain old gossip writer. And I'm not sure I
understand how it serves the public interest to know someone's dirty
laundry after they are dead (and in the big picture--they haven't been
dead all that long). How would anyone feel about having a dead family
member smeared all over and staring at them on magazine and book stands
(along with the Today show, ET, etc.)
Theo
> In no case, as far as I understand, no matter how hard they are partying, do
> they go to the bathroom and use the coke, then return w/their nostrils ringed
> with the stuff. Wishful, disparaging thinking, IMO. Someone may be out of
> their minds, but I just have trouble believing her coming back from the can
> with outlines around her nostrils. In the gutter, that's hard to find, let
> alone in someone's loft.
>
This is actually hilariously believable. Back in the good old early
80s I was at the wedding of my dear friends. At one point a group of
people came out of the rest room area (men and women) including the
bride and groom and some of them had cute little white powder smudges
under their noses. We had to tell them to wipe it off before their
parents saw it (although they probably would have thought they had
been scarfing down powdered doughnuts). By this point people had been
drinking and dancing for quite a while and I'm sure they got their
rest room refreshments in a hurry and weren't even paying attention to
what they looked like. And this was no "gutter" wedding. So you never
know. You know the older I get ( and I am getting up there but don't
mean to pull age rank here ) I have learned to never ever discount
anything anymore as impossible. Anything and everything is possible.
On CBK as a gold digging abusive self indulgent ne'er do well - is
anyone really surprised by this. Caroline should have sued HER mother
for producing such a succubus who clearly intentionally inflicted
emotional distress on John. She was giving those vibes off for a long
time. Her history just screams this to me. Please don't blame it on
manic depression - I have plenty of manic depressive friends who are
NICE and don't become sadistic bitches from pedicure hell when they
hit a rough spot. She was what she was. Poor John he seemed to be a
decent and nice person but men can be so pathetic in choosing a first
wife. And, yes, I really do believe she or their arguing had something
to do with the crash. Does anyone believe they were having a peaceful
and cheerful chat during that flight? (Doesn't excuse his lack of
judgment in flying that night)
CliffB
theop...@excite.com wrote on 7/1/03 11:30 PM:
Let's not lionize or otherwise grant Sainthood to little broken-footed
John-john. In any case, he had only reniforced the notion that the Kennedy
men have a seemingly congenital capacity for reckless judgement. He ought
not to have flown into that evening haze while crippled and without
instrument certification. And he probably should not have wed this possibly
demented harridan; bad judgement again, especially considering that he
virtually had his pick on almost any woman on the planet. He should have
settled for Sarah Jessica Parker, who probably would have sent Matthew
Broderick packing on the first cell phone call from Johnjohn, but not
attacked him mid-flight on the way to Martha's vineyard.
Kennebunk_guy
wrote:
>
>"Charli" <rambli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:9425e3eb.03070...@posting.google.com...
>> > I do feel sorry for him. Wish he had married Daryl, who really did
>> > love him.
>>
>> On a TV documentary I saw, a long-time family friend was interviewed.
>> He said that JFK Jr.'s relationship with Daryl was very tempestuous,
>> that the two of them didn't bring out the best in each other when they
>> were together.
>>
>> I suspect JFK Jr. was drawn to strong-willed women (similar to his
>> mother Jackie), and that emotionally he was just as volatile as Daryl
>> and Carolyn Bessette.
>>
>> Most likely Carolyn was reasonably well-adjusted while she and John
>> were dating: She was an attractive woman with a great job working for
>> Calvin Klein, and she was only partially in the public spotlight. But
>> after the wedding, all that changed. That may have triggered her
>> depression and (increased?) drug use.
>>
>> It's too bad when a book like this comes out and, truthfully or not,
>> tarnishes her image because, unfortunately, she can't defend herself
>> against the allegations. It must be very painful and frustrating for
>> her family.
>
>I think this is the first time I've seen anyone mention *HER* family. Thank
>you. Sheesh, everyone goes on and on about a Kennedy dying. On that day
>the Bessette family lost 2 loved ones for goodness sake, but no one seems to
>care about that.
>
There definitely been some kind of contention between the Bessettes
and Kennedys since they issued a "wrongful death" suit against the
Kennedy family.
gertaboth
megan...@hotmail.com says...
> This is incredibly sad.
>
> A few questions after reading this article:
>
> 1. Clearly she was nuts. Who would ever EVER have turned down JFK Jr.
> for sex?
> 2. How do you "squash" a VCR?
> 3. I am wondering if she flew off the handle on the plane and caused
> him to either get distracted or literally knocked him out.
> 4. Was she like this before they mnarried, or did she hide it well? If
> so why did he marry her?
>
> I feel bad for him. He seems to have been a genuinely nice guy and
> deserved much better.
around to witness their disgrace or embarrassment.
JFK's assassination saved him big time both from the disgrace and ignominy of the
Vietnam War - had he lived, he almost certainly would have sent US troops there -
and also from subsequent revelations of his reckless philandering. Again, had he
lived, his adulteries probably would have been revealed during his presidency.
Death was, in fact, a face-saving way out for JFK from quite a few major jams.
Jackie Onassis benefited from death - her second husband Aristotle's death pre-
empted an inevitable divorce, and left her with the more honorable status of
"widow" once again. Her own death many years later saved her from the anguish
and disappointment of watching a son she raised with great care die so
carelessly.
And now JFK Jr. - his own death forever ended any chance of him screwing up like
his other cousins. Again, like his mother, his own death - and death of his wife
- saved him from enduring shame and embarrassment for the wretched marriage that
would have unravelled so publicly and horribly.
Far from being a "Kennedy curse," death has been a blessing for the family of
JFK.
Rumpleforeskin
>JFK's assassination saved him big time both from the disgrace and ignominy of
>the
>Vietnam War - had he lived, he almost certainly would have sent US troops
>there
On what do you base this?
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@news.meganetnews.com>, sho...@hotmail.comn
says...
> In article <4e7d8e9b.03063...@posting.google.com>,
> megan...@hotmail.com says...
> > This is incredibly sad.
> >
> > A few questions after reading this article:
> >
> > 1. Clearly she was nuts. Who would ever EVER have turned down JFK Jr.
> > for sex?
> > 2. How do you "squash" a VCR?
> > 3. I am wondering if she flew off the handle on the plane and caused
> > him to either get distracted or literally knocked him out.
> > 4. Was she like this before they mnarried, or did she hide it well? If
> > so why did he marry her?
> >
> > I feel bad for him. He seems to have been a genuinely nice guy and
> > deserved much better.
>
>
> Somehow, death has a way of bailing out the family of JFK, so that they're not
> around to witness their disgrace or embarrassment.
>
> JFK's assassination saved him big time both from the disgrace and ignominy of the
> Vietnam War - had he lived, he almost certainly would have sent US troops there -
And how do you know this? All the evidence
I've come across showed that JFK was seriously
considering getting us out while cleverly
saving face. At his death, the war was in
it's very infancy with very few of our troops
committed.
> and also from subsequent revelations of his reckless philandering. Again, had he
> lived, his adulteries probably would have been revealed during his presidency.
> Death was, in fact, a face-saving way out for JFK from quite a few major jams.
Doubt it. Neither Johnson's nor Nixon's
affairs came to light for many years after
they left office.
>
> Jackie Onassis benefited from death - her second husband Aristotle's death pre-
> empted an inevitable divorce, and left her with the more honorable status of
> "widow" once again. Her own death many years later saved her from the anguish
> and disappointment of watching a son she raised with great care die so
> carelessly.
Jackie wouldn't allow JFK Jr. to take up
flying. He started lessons only after she
died.
>
> And now JFK Jr. - his own death forever ended any chance of him screwing up like
> his other cousins. Again, like his mother, his own death - and death of his wife
> - saved him from enduring shame and embarrassment for the wretched marriage that
> would have unravelled so publicly and horribly.
JFK Jr. would have survived a messy divorce.
He and Caroline both avoided scandal by being
raised very far from their Kennedy cousins.
It's Ethel and Robert's brood that seem out of
control. Based on the chaos that reigned in
their house, with a tendency for little over
site of all those kids, it makes a lot of
sense. Ethel's a real piece of work as well.
>
> Far from being a "Kennedy curse," death has been a blessing for the family of
> JFK.
You're kooky.
bel
>