Linda Ronstadt leaves Tucson for San Francisco
Rick in Oz
Linda Ronstadt leaves Tucson for San Francisco
Associated Press
June 27, 2005 8:50 AM
TUCS0N - Singer Linda Ronstadt - after living in Tucson the past ten years -
has moved to the San Francisco Bay Area.
Ronstadt says she's not sure if the move is permanent.
She said she hasn't decided to sell her midtown Tucson home yet - that she
loves the house, the neighborhood, and her neighbors and friends.
But while she loves the home, she doesn't care for the noise from the
Davis-Monthan Air Force Base flight path that runs directly overhead.
Ronstadt, who grew up in Tucson, had moved back to her hometown from San
Francisco in 1995 in hopes of giving her two children a way of life she grew
up in.
But she discovered over her decade in Tucson that urban sprawl and
transportation issues had made Tucson a very different place from her
childhood memories.
Wyle Coyote
Rick in Oz wrote:
> http://www.azcentral.com/ent/celeb/articles/0627ronstadt.html
>
> Linda Ronstadt leaves Tucson for San Francisco
>
> Associated Press
> June 27, 2005 8:50 AM
>
> TUCS0N - Singer Linda Ronstadt - after living in Tucson the past ten years -
> has moved to the San Francisco Bay Area.
>
> But she discovered over her decade in Tucson that urban sprawl and
> transportation issues had made Tucson a very different place from her
> childhood memories.
Sheeet! She just doesn't want to come out and say the place sucks! I
am also a native of that snake pit and I hate it more than any other
city in the union!
Tucsonans don't support Linda Ronstadt and never have. I don't know
first hand, but the talk around town is they call her slut and whore.
Tucson has no art and she is the biggest named artist to come out of
Tucson...now Phoenix is a different story. Linda has never performed
an all out Linda Rondstadt concert in that city...to my knowledge. Add
to that, they threw a bottle at Geddy Lee(Singer for r&r group Rush)in
the 80's...the band never returned to date.
wiseu...@hotmail.com
and bought a place there. That could have given her a place similar to
what she grew up with. She sure won't find it in San Francisco. >
If you knew San Francisco you'd understand. It's a city of
self-contained, self-sufficient neighborhoods which, in a sense,
provide a "smalltown" feel. You have your local markets, schools,
churches, etc. Some people rarely even stray from their own
neighborhoods. Ronstadt lived in SF for several years before moving to
Tuscon, so obviously she knows what's she's doing.
wiseu...@hotmail.com
I don't know first hand, but talk around agc is that they call you a
prick and an idiot.
Lefty
> Tucsonans don't support Linda Ronstadt and never have. I don't know
> first hand, but the talk around town is they call her slut and whore.
Translation; "I think she's a slut and a whore. Only other drooling,
troglodytic cretins like me agree, and since I'm from Tucson, one can
assume it's a popular POV there."
> "Tucson has no art and she is the biggest named artist to come out of
> Tucson...now Phoenix is a different story. Linda has never performed
> an all out Linda Rondstadt concert in that city...to my knowledge."
She's performed at least twice in the last 10 years that I know of, if
you meant Phoenix. What you meant by "all out", I don't know.
1) September 14, 1999 - Phoenix, AZ (Celebrity Theater)
2)"Claiming he was desperately in love with Ronstadt, Ortiz, 55, showed
up at her concert in Phoenix Saturday, apparently planning to woo the
singer into marrying him. Police nabbed him on stalking charges three
hours before the concert began."
http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,6429,00.html?newsrellink
nimue
Uh -- I lived in Tucson for 7 years. Why do you hate it so much? I REALLY
want to know. Oh, I never heard LR called a slut or a whore EVER. I heard
her called rich and privileged and Tucson royalty, but not a slut or a
whore.
--
nimue
"Have fun storming the castle!"
nimue
> Wyle Coyote wrote:
>
>
>> Tucsonans don't support Linda Ronstadt and never have. I don't know
>> first hand, but the talk around town is they call her slut and whore.
>
> Translation; "I think she's a slut and a whore. Only other drooling,
> troglodytic cretins like me agree, and since I'm from Tucson, one can
> assume it's a popular POV there."
Troglodytic? I think I love you! ;-) As I said in another post, I lived
in Tucson for 7 years and the only thing I ever heard about LR was that she
was a privileged kid. Her family was very powerful in Tucson. That said, I
never heard anything bad about her at all.
>
>> "Tucson has no art
Utterly ridiculous. Imo, Tucson is way more artist-friendly than Phoenix.
>and she is the biggest named artist to come out of
>> Tucson...now Phoenix is a different story. Linda has never performed
>> an all out Linda Rondstadt concert in that city...to my knowledge."
>
> She's performed at least twice in the last 10 years that I know of, if
> you meant Phoenix. What you meant by "all out", I don't know.
>
> 1) September 14, 1999 - Phoenix, AZ (Celebrity Theater)
>
> 2)"Claiming he was desperately in love with Ronstadt, Ortiz, 55,
> showed up at her concert in Phoenix Saturday, apparently planning to
> woo the singer into marrying him. Police nabbed him on stalking
> charges three hours before the concert began."
>
> http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,6429,00.html?newsrellink
--
theresa
> and bought a place there. That could have given her a place similar to
> what she grew up with. She sure won't find it in San Francisco.
She should have joined Neil Young and Joan Baez in the SF exburg
of Woodside, a quiet, gentle, horsey place near Stanford U.
Wyle Coyote
She is a native Tucsonan. She purchased a home in Tucson in 1995, yet
her family name is known throughout the city, as they've been there for
decades. Her brother is former chief of police and the central
downtown bus terminal is named "Ronstadt Center". Why would the most
famous member of the family not reside in her hometown and then turn
around and leave again???
Wyle Coyote
That's whay they say about the USA around the world too!
Wyle Coyote
Lefty wrote:
> Wyle Coyote wrote:
>
>
> > Tucsonans don't support Linda Ronstadt and never have. I don't know
> > first hand, but the talk around town is they call her slut and whore.
>
> Translation; "I think she's a slut and a whore. Only other drooling,
> troglodytic cretins like me agree, and since I'm from Tucson, one can
> assume it's a popular POV there."
Whatever this trash means. I thought this was an english reading
newsgroup?
> > "Tucson has no art and she is the biggest named artist to come out of
> > Tucson...now Phoenix is a different story. Linda has never performed
> > an all out Linda Rondstadt concert in that city...to my knowledge."
>
> She's performed at least twice in the last 10 years that I know of, if
> you meant Phoenix.
No I didn't mean Phoenix.
> What you meant by "all out", I don't know.
Where she is the headliner, as she has done some shows as a member of a
chorus.
> 1) September 14, 1999 - Phoenix, AZ (Celebrity Theater)
Phoenix.
> 2)"Claiming he was desperately in love with Ronstadt, Ortiz, 55, showed
> up at her concert in Phoenix Saturday, apparently planning to woo the
> singer into marrying him. Police nabbed him on stalking charges three
> hours before the concert began."
Phoenix.
Linda's from Tucson.
Care to cite some Tucson shows where she's performed for her hometown.
Van Halen, Chaka Khan, Foriegner, Stevie Wonder, Diana Ross, Rush,
Heart, Tina Turner, Lionel Ritchie, etc have all performed in Tucson.
Why not Linda?
Scheduling conflict???
Wyle Coyote
If you enquire about the story w/her and The Stone Ponies you'll learn
the parting wasn't pleaseant. Enough said!
Wyle Coyote
nimue wrote:
> Lefty wrote:
> > Wyle Coyote wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Tucsonans don't support Linda Ronstadt and never have. I don't know
> >> first hand, but the talk around town is they call her slut and whore.
> >
> > Translation; "I think she's a slut and a whore. Only other drooling,
> > troglodytic cretins like me agree, and since I'm from Tucson, one can
> > assume it's a popular POV there."
>
> Troglodytic? I think I love you! ;-) As I said in another post, I lived
> in Tucson for 7 years and the only thing I ever heard about LR was that she
> was a privileged kid. Her family was very powerful in Tucson. That said, I
> never heard anything bad about her at all.
> >
> >> "Tucson has no art
>
> Utterly ridiculous. Imo, Tucson is way more artist-friendly than Phoenix.
What a-list famous artists and or musicians are from Tucson, besides
the deceased painter Degrasia and singer Linda Rondstadt?
nimue
These people are either from Tucson or lived/still live there.
Barbara Kingsolver
N. Scott Momaday
Santana
Paul and Linda McCartney
Barbara Eden
Don Knotts
Greg Kinnear
Jerry Bruckheimer
John Denver
Lee Marvin
Stephen Baldwin
I can't believe you don't think Tucson is an artist-friendly town. What
about the DPC? Antigone? The Poetry Center? Where were YOU hanging out?
Wyle Coyote
nimue wrote:
> Wyle Coyote wrote:
> > nimue wrote:
> >> Lefty wrote:
> >>> Wyle Coyote wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Tucsonans don't support Linda Ronstadt and never have. I don't
> >>>> know first hand, but the talk around town is they call her slut
> >>>> and whore.
> >>>
> >>> Translation; "I think she's a slut and a whore. Only other drooling,
> >>> troglodytic cretins like me agree, and since I'm from Tucson, one
> >>> can assume it's a popular POV there."
> >>
> >> Troglodytic? I think I love you! ;-) As I said in another post, I
> >> lived in Tucson for 7 years and the only thing I ever heard about LR
> >> was that she was a privileged kid. Her family was very powerful in
> >> Tucson. That said, I never heard anything bad about her at all.
> >>>
> >>>> "Tucson has no art
> >>
> >> Utterly ridiculous. Imo, Tucson is way more artist-friendly than
> >> Phoenix.
> >
> > What a-list famous artists and or musicians are from Tucson, besides
> > the deceased painter Degrasia and singer Linda Rondstadt?
>
> These people are either from Tucson or lived/still live there.
> Barbara Kingsolver WHO??? A-LIST?
> N. Scott Momaday WHO??? A-LIST?
> Santana LIE!!! From the Bay and live there!
> Paul and Linda McCartney From England and moved hangs out in tucson after fame.
> Barbara Eden LIE! Not "from" tucson.
> Don Knotts Lie. Not "from" tucson.
> Greg Kinnear Lie. Not "from" tucson.
> Jerry Bruckheimer Who??? A-List?
> John Denver straight out lie.
> Lee Marvin Lie. Not from Tucson.
> Stephen Baldwin lie. Not from tucson.
Care to cite your source?
I recently read a mag that printed the celebs who live in tucson and
those who are natives...Diana Ross was amongst them, as many celebs
live in the hills of Tucson to relax and escae the papparazzi, but
that's not what I am asking here. I am asking about celebs who are
"FROM" tucson pre-fame. There are none, save Linda Ronstadt and maybe
a football star who attended college at the U of A before going pro.
Uh...what part of "FROM" Tucson do you not understand? Aren't we
speaking of Linda Ronstadt...a native? Wouldn't that qualify the term
"From" in this instance???
Linda McCartney is a native, yes but what art does she do besides marry
Paul and take pics of all the people he connected her to? Until she
scored w/Paul she was nothing...unlike Linda Ronstadt!
The remaining people on your list are not natives and resided in
Tucson, if at all, after they became famous.
Sorry! You lose, but we have some nice consolation prizes for you
backstage!
Little one, I have lived in Tucson for some 30+ years. Believe me I
know the ins and outs of that city like the palm of my hand...so PLEASE
don't play kiddy games.
> believe you don't think Tucson is an artist-friendly town. What
> about the DPC? Antigone? The Poetry Center? Where were YOU hanging out?
Where do musical artist go for lessons besides U of A, Beavers Band
Box, Guitar Center(both primarily musical instrument retailers) or City
Parks and Recreation(lol)??? Are there any art institutes that are
nationally reputable and dedicated to producing quality musicians,
actors or artists??? NO! Please don't try to paint a pretty of
Tucsons art scene here on the net simply because subscribers reading
this topic aren't able to witness the artistic slump of that city
firsthand. Like I said, no successful artist has come from there...and
I'm not talking about people who have achieved fame...like Paul
McCartney and have moved into the surrounding mountains to enjoy
Tucsons nature scene! If you have no money to begin with you can't get
rich on a cactus!!!
Wyle Coyote
for the rich and/or famous. The stars who live there do not mix with
the city. They hang out in thire multi-million dollar homes for rest
and relaxation and stay away from the glitz and glamor of
Hollywood..that's why they go to Tucson. Unfortunately, this makes the
city life in Tucson drab!!! They don't recruite talent there, nor do
they visit the bars and clubs and perform a song or two w/the band of
the night. It's a dead city and you know it. Certainly you've seen
the all black postcard that's available and reads "Tucson at Night"? I
can't imagine seeing that for sale in Chicago.
Wyle Coyote
Arizona is amongst the the nations top 3 drug trafficing ports,
and revenues generated from it's drug trafficing are greater than the
revenues off all cities industries combined(source: Arizona Daily
Star), yet they are a quite little conservative community on the veneer
that never seems to know what's going on they just happen to have lots
of drug rehab centers for the fallen stars to recover at.
A SCAM AND A RACKET!!! Those coons know damn well what's going on!
Drug the nation and then make money off of them with rehab centers.
Little old Tucson is BIG up in the game!!! With it's Mexican/American
border
nimue
> Further, Tucson is a major international drug and alchol rehab center
> for the rich and/or famous.
THAT is true. Some of those places are very, very dangerous. Very
dangerous.
>The stars who live there do not mix with
> the city. They hang out in thire multi-million dollar homes for rest
> and relaxation and stay away from the glitz and glamor of
> Hollywood..that's why they go to Tucson. Unfortunately, this makes
> the city life in Tucson drab!!!
Celebs are easy to spot in Tucson. Whenever a movie is filming in Tucson
(and people always film in Tucson), the celebs all wind up, in my
experience, at Congress and the Cup Cafe. However, I would rather see the
Mollys than, say, Britney Spears. If celebrity is all that excites you,
that's pretty sad.
>They don't recruite talent there,
> nor do they visit the bars and clubs and perform a song or two w/the
> band of the night. It's a dead city and you know it.
Uh, after many nights spent at the Temple of Music and Art, Club Congress,
MudBuggs, the U of A Poetry Center, etc., I would hardly call Tucson a dead
city. There was always something to do. I think you have created your own
limits.
>Certainly
> you've seen the all black postcard that's available and reads "Tucson
> at Night"? I can't imagine seeing that for sale in Chicago.
--
nimue
> nimue wrote:
>> Wyle Coyote wrote:
>>> nimue wrote:
>>>> Lefty wrote:
>>>>> Wyle Coyote wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tucsonans don't support Linda Ronstadt and never have. I don't
>>>>>> know first hand, but the talk around town is they call her slut
>>>>>> and whore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Translation; "I think she's a slut and a whore. Only other
>>>>> drooling, troglodytic cretins like me agree, and since I'm from
>>>>> Tucson, one can assume it's a popular POV there."
>>>>
>>>> Troglodytic? I think I love you! ;-) As I said in another post,
>>>> I lived in Tucson for 7 years and the only thing I ever heard
>>>> about LR was that she was a privileged kid. Her family was very
>>>> powerful in Tucson. That said, I never heard anything bad about
>>>> her at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tucson has no art
>>>>
>>>> Utterly ridiculous. Imo, Tucson is way more artist-friendly than
>>>> Phoenix.
>>>
>>> What a-list famous artists and or musicians are from Tucson, besides
>>> the deceased painter Degrasia and singer Linda Rondstadt?
>>
>> These people are either from Tucson or lived/still live there.
>> Barbara Kingsolver WHO??? A-LIST?
We are discussing artists, right? Use google and stop embarrassing
yourself.
>> N. Scott Momaday WHO??? A-LIST?
Hmm, you never had much of an education, did you? You certainly didn't have
a Tucson education if you don't know Momaday.
>> Santana LIE!!! From the Bay and live there!
I never said he was from there. Did you read this? <<These people are
either from Tucson or lived/still live there.>> The people who live in a
city make the city. My husband was actually born in Connecticut, but he was
raised in Tucson. He is a Tucsonan. I
>> Paul and Linda McCartney From England and moved hangs out in tucson
>> after fame.
Barbara Eden LIE! Not "from" tucson.
She was born there.
>> Don Knotts Lie. Not "from" tucson.
He went to the U of A, I believe.
>> Greg Kinnear Lie. Not "from" tucson.
He went to the U of A.
>> Jerry Bruckheimer Who??? A-List?
You're kidding, right?
>> John Denver straight out lie.
>> Lee Marvin Lie. Not from Tucson.
>> Stephen Baldwin lie. Not from tucson.
Uh, perhaps you didn't read this: <<These people are either from Tucson or
lived/still live there.>> Look above and try to actually read the posts you
respond to. These people were either born in Tucson, or lived there.
That's it.
>
> Care to cite your source?
> I recently read a mag that printed the celebs who live in tucson and
> those who are natives...Diana Ross was amongst them, as many celebs
> live in the hills of Tucson to relax and escae the papparazzi, but
> that's not what I am asking here. I am asking about celebs who are
> "FROM" tucson pre-fame. There are none, save Linda Ronstadt and maybe
> a football star who attended college at the U of A before going pro.
>
> Uh...what part of "FROM" Tucson do you not understand? Aren't we
> speaking of Linda Ronstadt...a native? Wouldn't that qualify the term
> "From" in this instance???
What part of <<These people are either from Tucson or lived/still live
there>> was too challenging for you? As I said, my husband was born in
Connecticut. However, he spent most of his life in Tucson before coming to
NYC. His years in Tucson shaped him as he, in his small way, shaped Tucson.
My years in Tucson shaped me just as I, in my tiny way, shaped it.
I lived in Tucson for 7 years and I left in '96. I am from NYC and I
returned to NYC. That said, in many ways, I think Tucson is MORE
artist-friendly than NYC. It's possible to live there, for one. NYC rents
are out of control. It's possible to get shown at galleries, etc. -- you
wouldn't believe the political nonsense in the NYC art world. A place like
the late, lamented DPC is possible in Tucson -- try doing that in NY! Hey,
if you have no money, Tucson is a whole lot better than NYC -- why do you
think I went to school there? Heck, I could live on next-to-nothing and
tuition was nothing. It was beautiful. Now, I can tell you are not
educated, but the University of Arizona's Photography Center is highly
respected and the place is swarming with artists, musicians, and
philosophers. You want music lessons, look no further than the U of A. As
for music, what about Sam Taylor? Greyhound Soul? The Mollys? There are
great musicians. Fame is not my arbiter for excellence, you know. One last
question -- why don't you leave if you hate it so much?
nimue
You choke to death on your own spittle or something here?
Wyle Coyote
nimue wrote:
> Wyle Coyote wrote:
> > Further, Tucson is a major international drug and alchol rehab center
> > for the rich and/or famous.
>
> THAT is true. Some of those places are very, very dangerous. Very
> dangerous.
?
What places the rehab centers?
> >The stars who live there do not mix with
> > the city. They hang out in thire multi-million dollar homes for rest
> > and relaxation and stay away from the glitz and glamor of
> > Hollywood..that's why they go to Tucson. Unfortunately, this makes
> > the city life in Tucson drab!!!
>
> Celebs are easy to spot in Tucson. Whenever a movie is filming in Tucson
> (and people always film in Tucson), the celebs all wind up, in my
> experience, at Congress and the Cup Cafe.
Man you are one out of touch nimrod. You can spot them at concerts at
the casinos and TCC too...that's not my point. Why must I be so
explict w/you???
This is the net...resources are limited!
> >They don't recruite talent there,
> > nor do they visit the bars and clubs and perform a song or two w/the
> > band of the night. It's a dead city and you know it.
>
> Uh, after many nights spent at the Temple of Music and Art, Club Congress,
> MudBuggs, the U of A Poetry Center, etc., I would hardly call Tucson a dead
> city. There was always something to do. I think you have created your own
> limits.
Club Congress? The only happining club in town, which pales severely
to clubs of other cities. Might I add, that's just a bar/nightclub.
Big deal! What does that h ave to do with recruiting talent or the
type celebs we gossip about here in AGC sitting in unexpectedly w/the
house band at those places??? Haven't you heard Tucson is a retirement
community and that's the way they keep it! The celebs want it that way
as well so as to ensure what they love most about Tucson...quiet time
and boredom.
>
> >Certainly
> > you've seen the all black postcard that's available and reads "Tucson
> > at Night"? I can't imagine seeing that for sale in Chicago.
So tell me did you see this postcard???
Wyle Coyote
This is the lamest retort I've seen on the net, to date.
Wyle Coyote
Uh...ding dong recall when I asked: "What a-list famous artists and or
musicians are from Tucson, besides the deceased painter Degrasia and
singer Linda Rondstadt?"
What does "A-LIST" mean to you?
You're good at talking, but at listening you ain't so cool.
> >> N. Scott Momaday WHO??? A-LIST?
>
> Hmm, you never had much of an education, did you? You certainly didn't have
> a Tucson education if you don't know Momaday.
LOL! Not an English/literature major.
I just googled this "A-List" star under news and got 4 hits! WOW!
I got 2490 hits on Britney Spears, 178 on Linda Ronstadt
and 988 on Diana Ross.
Gee! I stand corrected!
> >> Santana LIE!!! From the Bay and live there!
>
> I never said he was from there. Did you read this? <<These people are
> either from Tucson or lived/still live there.>>
Recall when I asked???
"What a-list famous artists and or musicians are from Tucson, besides
the deceased painter Degrasia and singer Linda Rondstadt?"
Why did you have to go and convolute matters like a snake, in attempt
to purport Tucson to be what it isn't?
> The people who live in a
> city make the city.
Lol! Yes, they transport in and out of the hills of Tucson in
helicopters and limousines...they just don't have anything much else to
do with the little ol retirement town besides pay thier property taxes
and remain in obscurity.
Certainly you didn't learn what you learned on Tucsons Channel 4
Eyewitness News at 10:00p! You had to dig or get the gossip around
town for this celeb info. They do nothing there but sleep! NOTHING!
> Barbara Eden LIE! Not "from" tucson.
> She was born there.
BULL!
> >> Don Knotts Lie. Not "from" tucson.
> He went to the U of A, I believe.
So! Lots of athletes who go pro get scholarships to the U of A.
Can Tucson claim them as thier own? NO! Many of them don't even come
back to say hi! You miss the point again.
Linda is undeniably Tucsons!!!! There is no celebrity of her caliber
or even an A-list star that has come out of that town!!!! Don't you
get it???
> >> Greg Kinnear Lie. Not "from" tucson.
> He went to the U of A.
Oh that makes him local?
Grabbing at straws are we? Whens the last time he made a public
appearance there?
Geraldo Rivera went to the U of A too! Seen him in you town EVER???
> >> Jerry Bruckheimer Who??? A-List?
> You're kidding, right?
No. Just googled him. Never seen or heard of him.
B-list.
> >> John Denver straight out lie.
> >> Lee Marvin Lie. Not from Tucson.
> >> Stephen Baldwin lie. Not from tucson.
>
> Uh, perhaps you didn't read this: <<These people are either from Tucson or
> lived/still live there.>> Look above and try to actually read the posts you
> respond to. These people were either born in Tucson, or lived there.
> That's it.
Thanks, but if you had average reading and comprehension skills you
would have understood that's not what I asked.
Try again.
NYC!
That explains it. Tucson has been invaded by New Yorkers. I can see
why the terrorist crashed into the world trade center. U new yorkers
are some of the nastiest Americans in the nation. YUCK!
scri...@aol.com
BIG!
-Scrinine
nimue
> nimue wrote:
>> Wyle Coyote wrote:
>>> Further, Tucson is a major international drug and alchol rehab
>>> center for the rich and/or famous.
>>
>> THAT is true. Some of those places are very, very dangerous. Very
>> dangerous.
>
> ?
> What places the rehab centers?
Yes.
>
>>> The stars who live there do not mix with
>>> the city. They hang out in thire multi-million dollar homes for
>>> rest and relaxation and stay away from the glitz and glamor of
>>> Hollywood..that's why they go to Tucson. Unfortunately, this makes
>>> the city life in Tucson drab!!!
>>
>> Celebs are easy to spot in Tucson. Whenever a movie is filming in
>> Tucson (and people always film in Tucson), the celebs all wind up,
>> in my experience, at Congress and the Cup Cafe.
>
> Man you are one out of touch nimrod.
You are so impolite and vulgar.
>You can spot them at concerts at
> the casinos and TCC too...that's not my point. Why must I be so
> explict w/you???
> This is the net...resources are limited!
>
>>> They don't recruite talent there,
>>> nor do they visit the bars and clubs and perform a song or two w/the
>>> band of the night. It's a dead city and you know it.
>>
>> Uh, after many nights spent at the Temple of Music and Art, Club
>> Congress, MudBuggs, the U of A Poetry Center, etc., I would hardly
>> call Tucson a dead city. There was always something to do. I think
>> you have created your own limits.
>
> Club Congress? The only happining club in town, which pales severely
> to clubs of other cities.
I live in NYC. I lived there before I went to Tucson and I live in NYC now.
Yes, NYC has more clubs, etc. It has a greater variety of things to choose
from. Still, I found Tucson very satisfying when I was there. I am saying
this AS A NEW YORKER. You are a Tucsonan who cannot appreciate his own
city! Doesn't the fact that a New Yorker (who went to and worked in the
very NYC nightclubs you idolize) thinks that Tucson is fun and interesting
tell you anything?
>Might I add, that's just a bar/nightclub.
> Big deal! What does that h ave to do with recruiting talent or the
> type celebs we gossip about here in AGC sitting in unexpectedly w/the
> house band at those places??? Haven't you heard Tucson is a
> retirement community and that's the way they keep it! The celebs
> want it that way as well so as to ensure what they love most about
> Tucson...quiet time and boredom.
>>
>>> Certainly
>>> you've seen the all black postcard that's available and reads
>>> "Tucson at Night"? I can't imagine seeing that for sale in Chicago.
>
> So tell me did you see this postcard???
Hmmmm, maybe. I think so. When I moved to Tucson, I remember thinking it
was very dark at night, much darker than NYC. That didn't bother me.
nimue
Sorry. I just don't get excited at the thought of Britney Spears. I do not
consider her much of an artist. I have a much higher opinion of Momaday's
art than I do Britney Spears. I guess you equate art with fame. I don't.
That is why you don't like Tucson. You can't see the wonderful art around
you because it hasn't been packaged by a corporation.
My mother has seen him in a restaurant in NYC. It didn't have a huge impact
on her life.
>
>>>> Jerry Bruckheimer Who??? A-List?
>> You're kidding, right?
>
> No. Just googled him. Never seen or heard of him.
> B-list.
>
snip
>>
>> I lived in Tucson for 7 years and I left in '96. I am from NYC and I
>> returned to NYC.
>
> NYC!
> That explains it. Tucson has been invaded by New Yorkers. I can see
> why the terrorist crashed into the world trade center. U new yorkers
> are some of the nastiest Americans in the nation. YUCK!
Oh, well, say hello to my killfile -- and get the help you need.
Guy Bannis
> "Rick in Oz" <ozbadcat@h*tmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.azcentral.com/ent/celeb/articles/0627ronstadt.html
> >
>
> >But she discovered over her decade in Tucson that urban sprawl and
> >transportation issues had made Tucson a very different place from her
> >childhood memories.
>
> The US is a very different place from during her childhood.
> Population almost double, 1 in 10 Mexicans living in the US, with 1.5
> million a more a year ( not even considering the 1 million a year
> legally ). The word is out to the rest central and south americans
> too, that America likes people to enter their nation without
> permission. And the corridor just to the south of Tucson is one great
> freeway, with all green lights, courtesy of our government and elites.
Oh, geez. Tell us where your ancestors came from. I doubt you're Native
American.
E Varden
So is Linda Ronstadt.
Pe
Wyle Coyote
nimue wrote:
> Wyle Coyote wrote:
> > nimue wrote:
> >> Wyle Coyote wrote:
> >>> Further, Tucson is a major international drug and alchol rehab
> >>> center for the rich and/or famous.
> >>
> >> THAT is true. Some of those places are very, very dangerous. Very
> >> dangerous.
> >
> > ?
> > What places the rehab centers?
>
> Yes.
> >
> >>> The stars who live there do not mix with
> >>> the city. They hang out in thire multi-million dollar homes for
> >>> rest and relaxation and stay away from the glitz and glamor of
> >>> Hollywood..that's why they go to Tucson. Unfortunately, this makes
> >>> the city life in Tucson drab!!!
> >>
> >> Celebs are easy to spot in Tucson. Whenever a movie is filming in
> >> Tucson (and people always film in Tucson), the celebs all wind up,
> >> in my experience, at Congress and the Cup Cafe.
> >
> > Man you are one out of touch nimrod.
>
> You are so impolite and vulgar.
Impolite and vulgar??? Hmmm...kettle, pot, black?
Earlier you upset me, now you simply amuse me.
Wyle Coyote
nimue wrote:
> Sorry. I just don't get excited at the thought of Britney Spears. I do not
> consider her much of an artist. I have a much higher opinion of Momaday's
> art than I do Britney Spears. I guess you equate art with fame. I don't.
> That is why you don't like Tucson. You can't see the wonderful art around
> you because it hasn't been packaged by a corporation.
Of course! Everythings art these days!
Now I see where you're coming from. The birds are art, the clouds are
art, the moon is art, the water flowing through the valley is art. I
want to go where the air is clean, the water is pure, the skies are
blue, the lillies of the field sing songs of joy and they don't
recognize Martin Luther Kings national holiday. Take me! Take me
please Auntie Em!
Lisa Davidson
nimue wrote:
Nimue: Your experiences mirror my own. My parents moved there in 1972. I lived
in Tucson a total of about 5 years over their first decade in town. I never
heard anything bad about Linda Ronstadt, either - ever. My parents were
neighbors of a cousin of hers years after this, and again, nothing bad about
her at all ever came up. I believe her brother, Capt. Peter Ronstadt, was Chief
of Police of Tucson for many of the 25 yrs. my parents lived there.
Yes, she had a privileged upbringing, and yes, her family was powerful and
respected - and all this before she became famous.
And you are correct that Tucson is much more "arty" than Phoenix.
All of this said, I can understand why LR would prefer San Francisco. While
both cities have changed in the past 30 - 40 years, the changes have been much
more substantial in Tucson than in SF.
chillled
Wyle Coyote
Lisa Davidson wrote:
> nimue wrote:
>
> > Lefty wrote:
> > > Wyle Coyote wrote:
> >
> > Utterly ridiculous. Imo, Tucson is way more artist-friendly than Phoenix.
> >
> > >and she is the biggest named artist to come out of
> > >> Tucson...now Phoenix is a different story. Linda has never performed
> > >> an all out Linda Rondstadt concert in that city...to my knowledge."
> > >
> > > She's performed at least twice in the last 10 years that I know of, if
> > > you meant Phoenix. What you meant by "all out", I don't know.
> > >
> > > 1) September 14, 1999 - Phoenix, AZ (Celebrity Theater)
> > >
> > > 2)"Claiming he was desperately in love with Ronstadt, Ortiz, 55,
> > > showed up at her concert in Phoenix Saturday, apparently planning to
> > > woo the singer into marrying him. Police nabbed him on stalking
> > > charges three hours before the concert began."
> > >
> > > http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,6429,00.html?newsrellink
> >
> > --
> > nimue
> >
> > "Have fun storming the castle!"
>
> Nimue: Your experiences mirror my own. My parents moved there in 1972. I lived
> in Tucson a total of about 5 years over their first decade in town. I never
> heard anything bad about Linda Ronstadt, either - ever.
What I spoke of was old small town gossip...uh...this is a gossip
group. Now don't get me wrong...I admire Linda for having struggled
hard enough to get out of Tucson and become an international renown
singer. Tucson today is not the Tucson of yesterday, however, like all
cities it has a past. So please don't be foolish enough to believe
your beloved new home has always been bright and shining with a white
picket fence. It took the efforts and lives of many to make Tucson the
little bit of nothing, comparatively, that it still is today.
> My parents were
> neighbors of a cousin of hers years after this, and again, nothing bad about
> her at all ever came up.
Cousins? Of course you'd expect to hear bad things about one of the
Queens of the Ronstadt family from her cousin. Duh! As I said, I have
no knowledge first hand about the rumors and Linda seems to be a cool
chick too me, however, there is local town gossip for "the gossip
group" and there you have it...Good or bad, like it or not!
> And you are correct that Tucson is much more "arty" than Phoenix.
Now that's a laugh and that's not gossip! Artsy in what way?
Ok, I'll bite! Hey everybody! Go to Tucson to develop your musical or
acting talent and become a famous actor or musician!!!
LOL!
> All of this said, I can understand why LR would prefer San Francisco.
Of course! People leave thier hometown for many reasons. Keep in
mind, Linda is a STAR! Certainly you don't expect her to bad mouth
the city her family has resided in and achieved major success in for
decades do you?
Again, I ask why hasn't she done a headlining "LINDA RONSTADT IN
CONCERT"
concert for her home town and showed the folks back home how much she
loves and appreciates them for all they've done for her and thier
support throughout the years. I mean, they do admire and speak highly
of her as has been your experience.