"Rocha" sounds Hispanic to me....but don't quote me on that.
Scott Peterson always seemed to me to be Native American, at least a
large percentage thereof. Just an inner sense/gut reaction thang.
(Don't be a hatah. No one dimensioned stereotypes intended.)
Kaiju
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were such a thing physically possible,
than that one should be turned loose in society
and remain absolutely unnoticed.
-- William James
Rocha (her maiden name) is a Portuguese surname.
Anna
White mother, Mexican father.
For every Armenian in central California (or any other part of California)
there are 40 Mexicans.
I hope you know more about other important facets of life than you do
about this issue.
CarolR
jeez, who shit in your cornflakes this morning? lighten up, Francis.
--dez
...a pistol-hot cup of Dez...
"Chef of chicanery, your buns are mine!"
--the Tick
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Carol R:
FYI Portuguese ARE white...don't know where you get your info
from...One may find olive complexioned individuals of Portuguese
ancestry...yet the Portuguese race as a whole is white..
Any of the Portuguese which are olive complexioned may harken back to
the Moorish invasion of Portugal ages ago.
I lived in the country...I think I have a pretty good handle on
Portuguese history, etc.
Most Portuguese are white too, unless they are from Brazil or Cape Verde.
Z
"Effie, we all got pain" from "Dreamgirls"
> Carol R:
> FYI Portuguese ARE white...don't know where you get your info
> from...One may find olive complexioned individuals of Portuguese
> ancestry...yet the Portuguese race as a whole is white..
> Any of the Portuguese which are olive complexioned may harken back to
> the Moorish invasion of Portugal ages ago.
> I lived in the country...I think I have a pretty good handle on
> Portuguese history, etc.
Well, I'm Portuguese and I think I'm as white as Salma Hayek but not as
white as Cameron Diaz.
Anna
(doesn't understand all these stupid labels)
<<Well, I'm Portuguese and I think I'm as white as Salma Hayek but not
as white as Cameron Diaz.
Anna
(doesn't understand all these stupid labels)>>
Anna, well, sure...I don't get these stupid labels either...The thing
I tried to bring out was that...sure there may be some olive
complexioned Portuguese...as you can find in the white race. My point
was that some people are of the impression that all Portuguese are
"dark" so to speak..when they are not.
Lots of Italians may be olive or not "milky white" - complexioned,
yet people don't necessarily think of them as not being "white" as some
assume of the Portuguese..One can find the same in so many
nationalities..i.e...the French, English and others also have people who
are as "white as Salma Hyek but not as white as Cameron Diaz".
It can be sort of "sticky" attempting to explain skin colors;
nationalities and types...I am also of Portuguese ancestry...and white
as a sheet:) Meredith Viera is Portuguese and sorta "Cameron Diaz
white":)
Take care..
Oh well, there goes that theory.
I thought Peterson woke up one day and said "Hey, what am I doing
getting hitched to this half Mexican bitch who's going to give me a
litter of little brown ones like the Bush family?"
I guess I better remove those bookmarks to Morris Dees web sites, they're
starting to affect my brain.
Wonder if they'll try him under the hate crime statutes, then.
Looks just like him! IMHO
Little Flower
There is no "Portuguese race". There are people of Portuguese ancestry who can
be of any race, depending on where they come from. The Portuguese were big
colonizers and exploreres and encouraged mixing with local populations, mainly
because there weren't enough Portuguese to settle anywhere.
There are 8 Portuguese-speaking countries in the world. With the exception of
Portugal, they are all third world countries: Brazil, Angola, Mozambique, Cape
Verde, Guinea-Bissau, Sao Tome and Principe, and Timor. There is also Macau in
China and Goa in India, which used to be Portuguese colonies. Every one of
these countries has people with Portuguese surnames who are European, African,
Indian and Chinese and every conceivable combination in between.
Most Portuguese-Americans have ancestors who came from the Azores, Madeira or
Cape Verde. Fewer come from continental Portugal.
Rocha is a common name in every one of them. I don't know where Laci Rocha's
family came from.
He has to be the biggest victim in the entire world:
Weeelll.....now that you mention it....he IS dating J.Lo.
Little Flower
just curious, where'd you get this bit about her father being
Portugese? In CALIFORNIA? Unusual... There's a Rocha on every other
block where I live and they are all Mexican. And her father had a very
Hispanic accent, which is quite different from a Portugese accent.
There are hundreds of thousands of Portuguese in California, particularly
northern California. Many of them arrived as whalers in the 19th century.
Others arrived later and planted vineyards in places like Modesto and Santa
Rosa. There were also a lot of Portuguese cowboys.
Well that's weird. I've never met a Mexican Rocha in California! In Central
Ca. all the Rochas I know are Portuguese.
CarolR
The married name of a friend's sister is Rocha -- both she *and* her husband
are of Mexican descent. Last I heard, they lived about an hour away from
Modesto.
Michaela B.
CarolR
>><BR><BR>
One of my classmates is from El Salvador and has a Mexican father and her last
name is Rocha too.
For the record, just because the last name is Portuguese doesnt mean the person
is too. The last names Santander and Guillermo are from Spain and that doesn't
mean that the people are Iberian....my cousin with the LAST name of Santander
is from the Dominican Republic (5-6 generations) and my best friend with the
LAST name Guillermo is from the Phillipines (born in Manila).
Little Flower
You could always contact someone at the Modesto Bee newspaper, and pose the
question.
There is a Contact The Bee link.
Michaela B.
THANK you for enlightening these people. People seem not to understand
that people COME from one place, yet the lineage of their name may be
another country. A simple concept. I'll say it again, if you've got a
Rocha in California, most likely they got there via Mexico, not
Portugal. You can tell the more recently-immigrated ones by whether
they speak Spanish (from Mexico) or Portugese, LOL. Portugese, for
those of you who claim to know Rochas, is a whole different language
from Spanish, ROFL
uh, it's pretty much a given, in the western states, that a Hispanic
surname of a local means their family came from MEXICO. California,
Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, etc. Full of 'em.
But the isssue is that "Rocha" is not only a Spanish surname. It is also
Protuguese and there are thousand of Portuguese in California.
the issue actually is "what is Laci" and she isn't Portugese, neither
is her father. Via Mexico, maybe, but not from Portugal.
And so i go back to my prior post: does anyone know for sure? Has it been
published anywhere? Does anyone know the family? All this speculation and
probability is silly if it isn't accurate.
She looked a little more Native American to me. All the Portuguese
people I know look more Mediterranean/African to me.
Alex
>
>She looked a little more Native American to me. All the Portuguese
>people I know look more Mediterranean/African to me.
>
>Alex
>
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>Why would anyone ask you if you're Spanish, Mexican, Italian and half
>Philipino? They must really think of themselves as being an astute observer
>of ethnic derivation.
>
> I have NO idea! For some reason, since I have perpetually tan skin,
> people
> feel the need to know "what I am". And it's amazing the amount of
> people who have replied "Portuguese?" or "Portu-what?" Like it's some
> exotic nationality that they just can't fathom. Now, most of time,
> when/if I am asked that question I reply "American", if at all.
> And, I didn't mean that I've been asked if I am a mixture of all of
> those. I
> meant that over the years I've been asked if I were Italian or Spanish
> or..etc.
>
>>>
>>Why would anyone ask you if you're Spanish, Mexican, Italian and half
>>Philipino? They must really think of themselves as being an astute
>>observer of ethnic derivation.
I think AKA was being funny - as in one person asking you "are you Spanish,
Mexican, Italian and half Philipino?" - which would make them indeed astute.
Big J
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>
>I think AKA was being funny - as in one person asking you "are you Spanish,
>Mexican, Italian and half Philipino?" - which would make them indeed astute.
>
>Big J
>
You *did* mean to say American Indian, didn't you?