S&G at the Grammys?
Masked Avenger
lifetime achievement awards, Columbia can note the occasion by releasing yet
ANOTHER retrospective of their back catalog. That would be what, the 23rd?
or would it be the 24th? repackage of the SAME recordings for S&G? Oh yeah,
putting a sticker on the front of the box saying "As Seen On The Grammy
Awards!" really makes it special for me. Have to get that one. These guys
are second only to Elvis in the number of numbing reissues of the same old
shit. At least Elvis had a hundred albums to draw from. These guys did
about six 30-minutes albums together, about 3 hours of music total, and it's
been regurgitated more often than a super-model's dinner. Even the Beatles'
stuff hasn't been whored around this much. Paul Simon is not exactly
prolific. He did about a half-hour of music every 7 years, and he's just
about run out of voice and years. Garfunkel's new CD sucks big time, too.
It's over, guys. Take your award and just go home. Thank you. Thank you
very much.
BTW, the only reason Simon got the Kennedy Award a few months ago was that
McCartney was touring and not available. True. Simon was a last-minute
replacement.
Dennis B
Yeah, and speaking of which, I've repeatedly read (on Yahoo and other
places) that the Grammy reunion will be (use hysterical voice here)
"The first time they've played together in 30 years!!" WRONG!
They got together for that Central Park Concert in 1981. Which
received LOTS of publicity then. Not only was there an LP. but the
concert was shown on HBO every 20 mintues in the 80s. I know because
my mother always tried to make me watch it ("Why can't you listen to
this nice music instead of that noise??!!").
Masked Avenger
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I also vaguely remember some kind of Broadway Theatre week-long engagement
about 10 years ago. Don't know anything about it, heard about it on the
Imus in the Morning show at the time.
What noise would that be? lol
HeyHoLetsGo
songs that Paul Simon has contributed to American music. I'm curious to
know just whom you consider more worthy of Grammy Lifetime esteem? (Just to
find out if this rant is generational).
hhlg
Dennis B <denni...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>Paul Simon is not exactly prolific.
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Masked Avenger
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(Off the top of my head, in no particular order, not at all complete, and
without regard to whether they have already been so honored...)
Johnny Cash
Gordon Lightfoot
Bob Dylan
Kris Kristofferson
Steely Dan
Stevie Winwood
Willie Nelson
Leonard Cohen
Van (the Man) Morrison
Joni Mitchell
Neil Young
B.B. King
Eric Clapton
Everly Bros.
Carlos Santana
IMO Paul Simon suffocated his talents under his condescending egomania and a
serious paralysis of analysis. If Bob Dylan had the same obsession for
perfection, he'd never have written/recorded some of the timeless
masterpieces he did. I loved S&G and I always hated Paul Simon for being
such as asshole. I blame him 100% for the breakup of the group after Bridge.
PStaw57550
any talent and never wrote any of the music wanted equal money and equal
billing while pulling the majority of the praise. If I was Paul I would have
told him to go screw himself far sooner.
As for your list while I respect your opinion I have always thought that Bob
Dylan, was, is, and will always be, a no talent hack who must have blown the
larger majority of the music industry to get the god like standing that he
currently holds. Lets be honest, could he ever carry a tune?? His songs may
have inspired the make love not war generation but didn't do jack for me or
anyone else I associate with (Ok, All Along The Watchtower was a kick ass song
when done by Jimmy)
Masked Avenger
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> PARDON???? You actually blame Paul Simon for the breakup? Art - who never
had
> any talent and never wrote any of the music wanted equal money and equal
> billing while pulling the majority of the praise. If I was Paul I would
have
> told him to go screw himself far sooner.
>
> As for your list while I respect your opinion I have always thought that
Bob
> Dylan, was, is, and will always be, a no talent hack who must have blown
the
> larger majority of the music industry to get the god like standing that he
> currently holds. Lets be honest, could he ever carry a tune?? His songs
may
> have inspired the make love not war generation but didn't do jack for me
or
> anyone else I associate with (Ok, All Along The Watchtower was a kick ass
song
> when done by Jimmy)
>
>
Art was the singing talent in that partnership, Paul never had a voice. Art
contributed on the harmonies, a large part of the process. Art gave the duo
some humanity and humor. Paul has the personality of your high-school
algebra teacher. Art's Angel Clare is a classic pop album and showcases an
enormous talent.
Dylan is a genius despite his vocal limitations. His lyrics, melodies, and
the sheer force of his personality overrode that. And don't reference Jimi
if you can't spell his name correctly. Everything Jimi did was kick-ass.
Watchtower wasn't unique in that respect.
The kids today couldn't carry Jimi or Bob's guitar picks.
PStaw57550
last 30 years (Solo wise) Paul on the other hand who to me has always had avery
wonderful, measured, and mellow voice that works well with his choice of
compisitions - has had 15 to 20 in the top 10 and one in the the number one
position. He is well respected by his peers. Art is and always will be a joke
whos vocal harmonies just can't stand up on their own.
As for Jimi - your right I misspelled - Amazing because I look at Jimi daily
(He hangs on my wall) and agreed - todays artists couldnt hold a candle to him
[As for Bob - we can agree to disagree]
Masked Avenger
> Lets see - Art has had two to three releases that have made the top 40 in
the
> last 30 years (Solo wise) Paul on the other hand who to me has always had
avery
> wonderful, measured, and mellow voice that works well with his choice of
> compisitions - has had 15 to 20 in the top 10 and one in the the number
one
> position. He is well respected by his peers. Art is and always will be a
joke
> whos vocal harmonies just can't stand up on their own.
>
Given the choice I would have opted to be in Art's shoes rather than Paul's
anyday. Art is an outgoing healthy personality, Paul is a tortured soul.
Art has done very well for himself career wise, and did some successful
acting especially in Carnal Knowledge. Paul's attempts at acting, badly
handicapped by his extremely rigid personality (he has to be the complete
opposite of the loose, spontaneous, in-touch-with-one's-emotions type of
personality required for an actor) were dismal failures. Once again, he
comes off like your high-school algebra teacher. I think Paul was very
resentful that Art was asked to act by Mike Nichols and that he was not, and
that led to his breaking off the partnership. For someone like Paul, with
his artificially high opinion of himself, a snub like that can lead to real
anger. I don't know how anyone could work with Paul Simon. I would find it
intolerable. He comes off as such a dry, humorless, bore. Imagine what his
talent could have brought if he had a more relaxed and easy-going
personality. It boggles the mind.
Dennis B
the influence of the late, great NY-based music mag Trouser Press,
which caused me to rush headlong into the hardcore punk sounds of
Black Flag (Henry Rollins grew up in the area), the Dead Kennedys,
Flipper, etc. None of them ever wrote a line like "I have my books
and my poetry to protect me," I'll tell you that much.
Salome
From: "Masked Avenger" newsr...@earthlink.net
Date: Sun, Feb 23, 2003 6:37 PM
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Salome
Date: Sun, Feb 23, 2003 6:26 PM
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PARDON???? You actually blame Paul Simon for the breakup? Art - who never had
any talent and never wrote any of the music wanted equal money and equal
billing while pulling the majority of the praise. If I was Paul I would have
told him to go screw himself far sooner.
As for your list while I respect your opinion I have always thought that Bob
Dylan, was, is, and will always be, a no talent hack who must have blown the
larger majority of the music industry to get the god like standing that he
currently holds. Lets be honest, could he ever carry a tune?? His songs may
have inspired the make love not war generation but didn't do jack for me or
anyone else I associate with (Ok, All Along The Watchtower was a kick ass song
when done by Jimmy) >>
Oh boy. The only thing I can say is that you show a STUPENDOUS lack of
knowledge about the song catalog of Bob Dylan. If you REALLY think that all
he's "known for" is his music from the anti-war/60s era, then you are TRULY
mis-informed. Dylan is absolutely brilliant. And as for his voice...no, he
doesn't have a great voice. But he has a hell of a lot more to say with that
voice than 90% of the people who have made music in the past 35 years.
Salome
Date: Sun, Feb 23, 2003 6:37 PM
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Amen to all of that! And BTW, even Bob Dylan liked Jimi's version of Watchtower
better than his own! He once said that Jimi did things with that song that he
[Dylan] never dreamed possible.