Oh wonderful...I can't believe people like this guy's crap...it's like
glow in the dark paint by numbers. Maybe he'll do it on velvet while
he's at it.
Garry
I thought you meant he was going to paint it, like the outside, with
ladders and stuff.
Jim
Yeah....and all that yellow light coming out from them, like someone's being
interrogated inside.
I can't help myself. Every time the subject comes up, I have to post this
link:
http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1918
Kris
>
Bwahahahaha! I love that image "like someone is being interrogated
inside". That's priceless!
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>ImT...@aol.com wrote:
>< Alan Truism wrote:
>< < [ http://tinyurl.com/hg4yh ]
>
>< Oh wonderful...I can't believe people like this guy's crap...it's
>like
>< glow in the dark paint by numbers. Maybe he'll do it on velvet while
>< he's at it.
>
>I thought that was how he painted all of his wonderful masterpieces.
As dull as Kinkade's subject matter is it no worse than that of
Pissarro or any of the many third rate impressionists who know how to
draw a bit. Kinkad's technique isn't easy to imitate. Try it.
As little as I like Kinkade it's still better than this Picasso stuff.
http://images.google.ca/images?q=Picasso+drawing&svnum=10&hl=en&lr=lang_en&start=20&sa=N
You'll notice that the Modern Academic Art fundamentalists here have
nothing to say about this stuff.
It's not really Kinkade's paintings that bug artzy fartzies. It's the
prices they achieve along with the folksy yak that goes with them. Its
really no worse than every day Artspeak drivel.
TMML!
I hate Thomas Kinkade...but a lot of old ladies like him. I'm going to buy
one for my Aunt. ;-)
Peach
Define "old lady", and your aunt's taste. The older women I know (and I'm
talking about women older than I) are the most savvy about art. It's the
kids that need the educatin'
Kris
Pauley...
Ahh..... old lady with no cultural clue? ;-) (My Aunt is 60..... so, not
ancient....just older.)
Are kids known fans of Thomas Kinkade?
Peach
Yeah. They go "ooh and ah". They like bright colors and shiny things.
I think I just saved your Aunt from a Closet Gift. (The thing she has to
haul out and hang on the wall, when she sees you coming.) Get her a good
book. Preferably by Bill Maher or Al Franken ;)
Kris
58 and not a bit "old"....
>
>"Devildog" <Devild...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1158870159.2...@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> ImT...@aol.com wrote:
>>> Oh wonderful...I can't believe people like this guy's crap...it's like
>>> glow in the dark paint by numbers. Maybe he'll do it on velvet while
>>> he's at it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Garry
>>
>> Is this the guy that paints all these cottages with flowers?
>
>Yeah....and all that yellow light coming out from them, like someone's being
>interrogated inside.
I knew there was some reason Kinkade's stuff reminds me of the art
beloved by the leaders of the Third Reich. (Really. This isn't Godwin
fodder.)
BW
Thomas KinKade has done some very nice paintings. I have some very
beautiful Winter, and Christmas prints done by him. In fact he will be
having a new winter one coming out soon, And I' am looking forward to
seeing it. I'm sure I will get the Graceland one also.
>
>
> Garry
>This one is especially nice:
>[ http://tinyurl.com/hkr9e ]
I was in either Manchester or Glasgow, can't say for sure which
because I went to both places in the same time period a couple of
years ago. There's a little Kinkade gallery there in the corner of a
shopping centre.
His stuff sells on the QVC channel here (or maybe it's 'Ideal World'),
so we went in out of curiosity. The sales assistant (female) was
very...upbeat. Just like the women who present the show on QVC.
Apparently, you can buy prints which have been hand finished. She got
very excited telling us about that.
The word that I would have used, had you not already used it, is
"nice". Nice is not a word that I would ever use during a discussion
about art. Personally I think they're hideous, but I can see their
appeal. If they're being sold as things to decorate a certain kind of
home, the same way somebody might buy a glass clown, or an elephants
foot that's been turned into an umbrella stand, then it's down to the
individual to decide whether or not they mind their house being known
locally as The Museum Of The Tacky.
Just so long as they don't try and pretend it's art .
Richard
This made me laugh!! I am serious, Kris....she *has* Thomas Kinkade
paintings...I'm not basing this on her age. She really does like him.......
Me, I like Tadema, Hopper and De Chirico. ;-)
Peach
>>
>> Is this the guy that paints all these cottages with flowers?
>
> Yeah....and all that yellow light coming out from them, like someone's being
> interrogated inside.
>
> I can't help myself. Every time the subject comes up, I have to post this
> link:
> http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1918
>
> Kris
>>
"As such, we believe Thomas Kinkade is the finest painter to ever live. In
his hundreds of paintings of cottages, lighthouses, and vibrant landscapes,
he imbues no less than the human spirit taking a huge crap on an
overflowing toilet. Though he refers to himself as the Painter of Light, we
know that he is more than that. He is the manifestation of the great Buddha
himself, and his brushstrokes are like life lessons we can all learn from.
"
bwahahaha! I like some of his stuff. He has some pretty good paint
techniques. But I can see why he is so despised as well.
>
> Just so long as they don't try and pretend it's art .
ut oh. wait a minnit. now you're attemtping to force your definition of
"art" as "the truth". Art is many things to many people. theres no one
definition. This has been tried millions of times before and it never
works.
People who want everything but know they will never have it
have to worship the Rich.
These images represent the unattainable, the dream life of the
Rich, who are so rich that they can afford to live in such unreal
places, well away from any forseeable source of income.
Or they are seen as places in a past imagined time where
things were beautiful, where society was not so stressful,
where societal changes occurred over a generation, rather than
over the period of one day.
People have lost their common links, which 50 years ago
they shared. They are looking for something. They Do still
have souls. It is the people they most respect and admire
and envy who have none.
Is it fair to point at some people's tastes in a society which
spawned DisneyLand, GraceLand and Beverly Hills?
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I know what I like.
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Harming humanity since 1951.
"My dog ate my gratitude journal." -- Paula
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Somewhere (Wal-Mart?) I saw a hideous ceramic Christmas tree "created"
by Kinkade with scenes of an old-timey Xmas painted in its boughs.
IIRC, there was also a train...
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:01:52 -0400, Fantasia_Burro wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 07:58:55 GMT, Richard Palmer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Just so long as they don't try and pretend it's art .
>>
>>
>>
>>ut oh. wait a minnit. now you're attemtping to force your definition of
>>"art" as "the truth". Art is many things to many people. theres no one
>>definition. This has been tried millions of times before and it never
>>works.
>
> I know what I like.
>
No argument with that at all. "the beauty of art" is subjective, and so is
the definition of "what is art". My opinion only. I could be wrong.
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:59:51 -0400, Fantasia_Burro wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:49:29 GMT, Kris Baker wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this the guy that paints all these cottages with flowers?
>>>
>>> Yeah....and all that yellow light coming out from them, like someone's being
>>> interrogated inside.
>>>
>>> I can't help myself. Every time the subject comes up, I have to post this
>>> link:
>>> http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=1918
>>>
>>> Kris
>>>>
>>
>>
>>"As such, we believe Thomas Kinkade is the finest painter to ever live. In
>>his hundreds of paintings of cottages, lighthouses, and vibrant landscapes,
>>he imbues no less than the human spirit taking a huge crap on an
>>overflowing toilet. Though he refers to himself as the Painter of Light, we
>>know that he is more than that. He is the manifestation of the great Buddha
>>himself, and his brushstrokes are like life lessons we can all learn from.
>>"
>>
>>bwahahaha! I like some of his stuff. He has some pretty good paint
>>techniques. But I can see why he is so despised as well.
>
> Somewhere (Wal-Mart?) I saw a hideous ceramic Christmas tree "created"
> by Kinkade with scenes of an old-timey Xmas painted in its boughs.
> IIRC, there was also a train...
>
I think Thomas Kinkade is the Yngvie Malmsteen of the art world. He's
famous for having some really good technical skills but people hate the
content its displayed in. Or maybe Kinkade is the Enya of the paint world.
Nice chops but boring. Or maybe he's the Mariah Carey of modern painting.
Nice chops but ridiculously conceited about the mundane. Or maybe Kinkade
is the Doctor Korvorkian of the modern art world. Your call.
Kincade does paint well, but is it a classic example of style over
substance? And does he care, being at the top of the world? Some of his
stuff reminds me of Art Moore, one of the old 50s illustrators. That guy
could kick ass.
> He's famous for having some really good technical skills
Post proof or retract!
> Kincade does paint well,
Post proof or retract!
> but is it a classic example of style over substance?
Or, maybe, neither style nor substance.
--
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> bwahahaha! I like some of his stuff. He has some pretty good paint
> techniques. But I can see why he is so despised as well.
That might also have something to do with the fact that personally,
he's a disgusting pig.
> It's not really Kinkade's paintings that bug artzy fartzies. It's the
> prices they achieve along with the folksy yak that goes with them. Its
> really no worse than every day Artspeak drivel.
As well as his spewing Jesus rhetoric while screwing over his
employees. But hey, some of the things he apparently gets up to
while on an alcoholic bender are not entirely unlike performance art.
Nobody cares that much about Kinkade.
Thank you.
Marty
"shelly" <she...@cat-sidh.net> wrote in message
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I saw him on a segment of one of the News Shows (I forget which one). He was
nothing but an arrogant, conceited prick. I decided to avoid buying any of
his stuff. Besides it's cheesy and repetitious.
>
>"As such, we believe Thomas Kinkade is the finest painter to ever live. In
>his hundreds of paintings of cottages, lighthouses, and vibrant landscapes,
>he imbues no less than the human spirit taking a huge crap on an
>overflowing toilet. Though he refers to himself as the Painter of Light, we
>know that he is more than that. He is the manifestation of the great Buddha
>himself, and his brushstrokes are like life lessons we can all learn from.
>"
>
Change a few of the above words and you can turn it into an "I love"
Pollock, de Kooning, Rothko rant.
>How about deleteing alt.elvis.king when answering messages from those other
>groups.
Why you didn't delete alt.elvis.king if you don't want to continue the
thread there?
>Nobody cares that much about Kinkade.
Do you speak for all of alt.elvis.king?
BW
It's you r prerogative to talk about anything you want to but none of us
longtime aek posters asked you all at the other sites to come here and post
about shit we're not interested in.
All you have to do is delete aek when you click on reply to answer whatever
you're answering.
I'm not interested in getting into an arguement with you about it, however,
if that's what you're looking for we can oblige you.
Marty
<bar...@bookpro.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Terri" <Te...@micron.net> wrote in message
> news:4ni8cpF...@individual.net...
>> Richard Palmer <r.pa...@virgin.net> wrote in
>> news:9757h2d2v9hhf9iju...@4ax.com:
>>
>> then it's down to the
>>> individual to decide whether or not they mind their house being known
>>> locally as The Museum Of The Tacky.
>>>
>>> Just so long as they don't try and pretend it's art .
>>
>> How about if they pretend it's architecture instead?
>>
>> "Ticky-tacky houses from "The Painter of Lightā?¢"
>> http://dir.salon.com/story/mwt/style/2002/03/18/kinkade_village/index.html
>>
>> --
>> http://absinia.livejournal.com/calendar
>> My Quilts: http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k244/dogsnus/?start=all
>>
> So how is good art different to bad art, and how is good taste
> different to bad taste?
> What is the definition of ticky tacky?
>
> People who want everything but know they will never have it
> have to worship the Rich.
> These images represent the unattainable, the dream life of the
> Rich, who are so rich that they can afford to live in such unreal
> places, well away from any forseeable source of income.
> Or they are seen as places in a past imagined time where
> things were beautiful, where society was not so stressful,
> where societal changes occurred over a generation, rather than
> over the period of one day.
> People have lost their common links, which 50 years ago
> they shared. They are looking for something. They Do still
> have souls. It is the people they most respect and admire
> and envy who have none.
> Is it fair to point at some people's tastes in a society which
> spawned DisneyLand, GraceLand and Beverly Hills?
Just because a person has money does NOT mean he/she has good taste.
> Just because a person has money does NOT mean he/she has good taste.
Good quote. The reverse holds too:
Just because a person has good taste does not mean he/she has money!
--
Ioannis
-------
The best way to predict reality, is to know exactly what you DON'T want.
>I don't need to delete aek because that's what I post on.
And it was important for you to see your own message. Okay, got it.
>I didn't delete
>the other sites you people came from because I wanted you to see my message.
Okay, we've seen it. You've done your duty.
>It's you r prerogative to talk about anything you want to but none of us
>longtime aek posters asked you all at the other sites to come here and post
>about shit we're not interested in.
I didn't ask you to come here and tell me what you are and aren't
interested in, but here you are. Good thing you're Allowed.
>All you have to do is delete aek when you click on reply to answer whatever
>you're answering.
But I'm not the one who wants the thread to end in aek. I don't care
whether it does or not. You can remove aek from your reply to me if
you want, but if you don't, it makes no difference to me. You can
post where you want. I have no interest in restricting you.
>I'm not interested in getting into an arguement with you about it, however,
>if that's what you're looking for we can oblige you.
I was hoping for a discussion about it, but if you prefer to argue, I
can't stop you.
I thought you didn't want this on aek, though. Make up your mind.
BW
The last thing I need to do is debate with a smart-ass. The message I
reponded to, that you answered, is the second request I made for you people
who normally didn't post on aek to stop cross posting. The first time I
said "Please", the second time, the one you answered, I left that word off.
If you people were nice understanding people you all would have stopped
cross posting after the first request, however it seems that you either
don't understand english or you prefer to annoy. Maybe you're not mature
enough not to do it to just seek attention.
Do what you want BW but whatever ensues you've brought it on yourself after
nicely being asked to stop.
So far there have been over 30 posts about Kinkade on an Elvis newsgroup,
enough is enough.
Other than that, have yourself a nice life.
Marty
<bar...@bookpro.com> wrote in message
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There are those who believe that the very act of calling something
Art, makes it so. You see it all the time, and it's led to people like
Tracey Emin and Damien Hirst becoming very rich indeed.
I don't think this is art, and it's not a case of attempting to force
anything on anyone, it's more to do with being steadfast in my
beliefs.
Richard
>Do what you want BW but whatever ensues you've brought it on yourself after
>nicely being asked to stop.
That sounds awfully like a threat, marty. What exactly will I have
brought on myself? What could possibly ensue except more posts, which
apparently bothers you more than it bothers me?
I don't care about Kinkade either. I didn't start the thread, and
I've quit reading the posts that are actually discussing his so-called
art. Ignoring the thread is a practical alternative if it keeps
showing up in aek. You might have heard of killfiles. They can be
useful.
I understand what you want, and you are certainly entitled to make
your request. Nobody is required to comply, of course. aek is an
unmoderated newsgroup, and I'm sure you get off-topic threads all the
time. I wouldn't even have replied to your post (thus complying with
your polite request) except that you hypocritically didn't follow your
own request and then got snippy when someone dared to do exactly as
you had done.
Yes, I added aek back in for this post, which I wouldn't have done if
it weren't for your implied threat. Netkops also have to take what
they bring on themselves, which in this case is me calling your bluff.
I assume you will have nothing further to say on the matter and we can
go back to our respective regular Usenet activities.
Well done, by the way, for figuring out how to take aek out of the
Newsgroups line.
BW
I have heard of it and welcome to mine.
>
> I understand what you want, and you are certainly entitled to make
> your request. Nobody is required to comply, of course. aek is an
> unmoderated newsgroup, and I'm sure you get off-topic threads all the
> time. I wouldn't even have replied to your post (thus complying with
> your polite request) except that you hypocritically didn't follow your
> own request and then got snippy when someone dared to do exactly as
> you had done.
Your statement above leads me to believe you don't understand what I said
and requested. Either that or you choose to continue to be a smart-ass.
>
> Yes, I added aek back in for this post, which I wouldn't have done if
> it weren't for your implied threat. Netkops also have to take what
> they bring on themselves, which in this case is me calling your bluff.
> I assume you will have nothing further to say on the matter and we can
> go back to our respective regular Usenet activities.
>
> Well done, by the way, for figuring out how to take aek out of the
> Newsgroups line.
I know now you ought to try it.
Goodbye, Good Luck, I end with hopes we never meet again.
Bye,Bye,
Marty
>
> BW
Ladies and gentlemen, as of today there's another sticker on the
Internet's back bumper. Well done, Lowercase Marty -- if that _is_
your real name -- and thank you for coming up with the hot new
catchphrase for everyone's enjoyment. Your "The last thing I
need to do is debate with a smart-ass" T-shirt is in the mail.
Sorry about the size, but because this is the Internet, I had to guess.
-- K.
If Dan Quayle had said
"The last thing I need to
do is debate with a smart-ass,"
he'd be President.
Sorry Barb, for the cool reception you encountered. I see you have met
marty, who you may not know, controls what can be said, who can say it
and when they can say it. So much for free speech.
Marty believes that because of his affiliation with Elvis Presley that
he is entitled to said control. AEK regulars have posted OT several
times with no recourse but those are the ones that marty likes so he
will not retaliate against them. However, if he doesn't like you, then
you lose all rights to post, according to him.
He chooses to fight with arguments in hopes that you leave. And of
course useless threats. Notice he used the threat of arguments with
you.
Which is strange because here recently the subject was brought up of
too many threads that were argumentative. That being the reason people
no longer post on AEK. Yet, he was wanting to argue with you.
Check the archives for all the stimulating, logical conversations that
go on here. There is no such thing as that here. Somebody decides they
don't like you, mostly because you disagreed with marty, then all of a
sudden the name calling begins. Or you are threatened with physical
abuse or your life.
There will be retaliation for my post but it won't matter. I've grown
numb to what is said here. Sad, but that's the way it is here.
With that in mind you probably wouldn't like it here anyway. Most
people shy away almost immediately anyway. No one wants to get involved
in this mindset. I see a few regulars did post on this thread, but they
are intelligent people, open to logic and different viewpoints. Hard to
find here.
I have some photos ofThomas Kincade painting Graceland. If you want
them, please let me know.
Jess
>Fantasia_Burro wrote:
>
>> bwahahaha! I like some of his stuff. He has some pretty good paint
>> techniques. But I can see why he is so despised as well.
>
>That might also have something to do with the fact that personally,
>he's a disgusting pig.
Really? How do you know that? Dish!
Darla
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> barb...@bookpro.com wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:03:18 -0500, "marty" <moon7...@bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
> > BW
Notice what I said about retaliation in this NG. I was right. Below you
get a taste of the childish behavior of this man who calls himself a
friend of Elvis. Just think if you post here on AEK you can be the
recipient of the same. Aren't you glad not all of Elvis' friends are
like this?
Marty whining about the truth:
Quit whining like a little bitch. Just like your two idiot friends.
Thought you were gone from here for the umpteenth time but like a bad
penny
you keep popping back up.
What happened to your AFriend name, too many people here have you
filtered
and you needed the attention?
Enjoy another trip into the Twilight Zone. FILTER,FILTER, FILTER!
You know my name
Marty
>On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:40:17 -0500, "marty" <moon...@bellsouth.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Do what you want BW but whatever ensues you've brought it on yourself after
>>nicely being asked to stop.
I apologize--- I replied to a cross-posted message in this thread
before I saw your polite request that people delete your group from
the newsgroups line.
It won't happen again from me, anyway.
And notice he didn't cross post. I would think he would want the world
to see what a charming fellow he is.
Thank you Darla for that nice normal answer.
Marty
Marty, are you going to ask people to come out and gang up on people
now, and continue the name calling, which goes on and on and on, or are
you going to drop it, so we can have some PEACE, which EVERYONE wants?
There are differences in people, which should be embraced, not cut
down.
This is only one thread.
Jess
>In alt.gossip.celebrities, alt.religion.kibology, alt.religion.dake-bonoism,
>and rec.arts.fine, "marty" (moon...@bellsouth.net) wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> The last thing I need to do is debate with a smart-ass.
>
>Ladies and gentlemen, as of today there's another sticker on the
>Internet's back bumper. Well done, Lowercase Marty -- if that _is_
>your real name -- and thank you for coming up with the hot new
>catchphrase for everyone's enjoyment. Your "The last thing I
>need to do is debate with a smart-ass" T-shirt is in the mail.
>Sorry about the size, but because this is the Internet, I had to guess.
>
I'm sure marty will run out of other things to do soon.
He's lucky--he gets to debate with a smart-ass. I'm the one who
should be complainng about debating with a dumb-ass.
> -- K.
>
> If Dan Quayle had said
> "The last thing I need to
> do is debate with a smart-ass,"
> he'd be President.
Dan Quayle did debate with a smart-ass. It wasn't the last thing he
needed to do, but it was the only thing he'll be remembered for.
BW
When I think of my aunts and 'taste', I think of Charlotte Church and
Norman Rockwell. Would you look down on that sort of thing?
Now, see, ARKers, _that's_ talent - Barbara had never been to a.e.k before,
but with one or two well-chosen posts she hooked Marty completely out
of that group and had him flopping noisily over here. He has apparently
attempted to retreat (he's Allowed of course)...
Dave "thinking of condiments" DeLaney
--
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It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
OK, I just have to say, this is so cool. I thought Elvis's
affiliatin' days were over, on accounta him being dead and all.
Now I find out that it's not only possible to be affiliated with
Elvis, but that being affiliated with him actually gives you
cachet somewhere in the world. The interwebs rocks!
> [...]I've grown
> numb to what is said here. [...]
I have to ask, because I'm honestly curious. Not curious enough
to actually read any of the messages in your group, or even to look
at the subject lines in Google, but curious enough to ask here...
What do you all talk about in alt.elvis.king? It seems like you'd
all have said how much you love Elvis and how great he was about
a hundred thousand times by now, and pretty much run out of things
to talk about, seeing as how Elvis is deceased and all, and there
can't be much in the way of current topics of conversation. I have
to tell you, I am seriously tempted to do some research on this topic,
but I'm kind of afraid that real life would be disappointing compared
to my imagination. I'm guessing that random cross-posted threads
would actually be kind of a relief.
BTW, Elvis truly did change my life, and I think he was the undisputed
king of rock and roll (almost like Jesus, but without that
unattractive beard). Also, Andy Kaufmann.
When I think of your aunts and 'taste' I think of Joan Collins and
Heather Locklear wearing lacy black corsettes and thigh-high silk
stockings.
> Kincade does paint well, but is it a classic example of style over
> substance? And does he care, being at the top of the world? Some of his
> stuff reminds me of Art Moore, one of the old 50s illustrators. That guy
> could kick ass.
Kincade is the contemporary Margaret Keane, whose paintings of
big-eyed waifs were the biggest kitsch art fad of the early-mid
1960s.
Dollar-store art for trailer-trash tastes.
HellT
calamari.
JS
Actually, there are some things to talk about. Granted, there is a lot
of going over the same thing. But even that can be informative from a
different viewpoint perspective. It's not all just everyone saying how
much they love Elvis.
There are a number of people who can be quite informative and present
their information in an unassuming way and not be presumptious.
> Really? How do you know that? Dish!
Where to start?! Really, there is nothing nice I can think of to
say about him.
He groped a woman's breasts at a book signing and told her she had
"great tits."
Public urination, which he admits to, onna counta being born in the
country. I'm from the country, and never once have I felt the urge
to pee in public.
Peeing on a statue of Winnie the Pooh. Poor Pooh!
Peeing on the walls of various hotel rooms.
Getting drunk and heckling Siegfried and Roy. Though I suppose
yelling "Codpiece, codpiece!" at them could have been Kibological
performance art.
And then there's the fact that he has made phat stax o' cash from
his galleries while many of his dealers have been thoroughly screwed
over. Gallery owners claim that he manipulated them into opening
galleries by invoking the Baby Jeebus, but the galleries were
eventually forced out of business because of market oversaturation
and their mandated prices being undercut by competitors. Several
such cases are currently in arbitration, and the FBI is supposedly
investigating him for fraud.
Devout Christian, my ass!
--
Shelly (Warning: see label for details)
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)
I would have thought that a discussion of performance art would be
right at home in a.e.k. Besides, if you wanted a.e.k removed, you
should have removed it yourself. HTH and God bless!
> Thank you.
You are welcome.
> The last thing I need to do is debate with a smart-ass. The message I
> reponded to, that you answered, is the second request I made for you people
> who normally didn't post on aek to stop cross posting. The first time I
> said "Please", the second time, the one you answered, I left that word off.
Oooh! You just wait until your father gets home, Barbara!
> So far there have been over 30 posts about Kinkade on an Elvis newsgroup,
> enough is enough.
It seems to me that it would be easier to plonk the thread than
count the number of posts in it. But hey, what you do for
entertainment is your business.
> Other than that, have yourself a nice life.
I don't expect that she needs your permission for that.
>marty wrote:
>
>> The last thing I need to do is debate with a smart-ass. The message I
>> reponded to, that you answered, is the second request I made for you people
>> who normally didn't post on aek to stop cross posting. The first time I
>> said "Please", the second time, the one you answered, I left that word off.
>
>Oooh! You just wait until your father gets home, Barbara!
If some dumb-ass telling me off on Usenet is what it takes to bring my
father back from the dead, I'm more than happy to be told off.
>> So far there have been over 30 posts about Kinkade on an Elvis newsgroup,
>> enough is enough.
>
>It seems to me that it would be easier to plonk the thread than
>count the number of posts in it. But hey, what you do for
>entertainment is your business.
>
>> Other than that, have yourself a nice life.
>
>I don't expect that she needs your permission for that.
Well, you know how those Usenet control freaks are. They think one
needs their permission for almost anything.
BW
Another words, you are an insufferable snob.
She also had a litigious streak, suing anyone imitating her "style,"
including her ex-husband.
--
Chris McG.
Harming humanity since 1951.
"My dog ate my gratitude journal." -- Paula
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>I don't need to delete aek because that's what I post on. I didn't delete
>the other sites you people came from because I wanted you to see my message.
>
>It's you r prerogative to talk about anything you want to but none of us
>longtime aek posters asked you all at the other sites to come here and post
>about shit we're not interested in.
>
>All you have to do is delete aek when you click on reply to answer whatever
>you're answering.
>
>I'm not interested in getting into an arguement with you about it, however,
>if that's what you're looking for we can oblige you.
Well, will you buy Kinkade's portrait of Graceland? You're part of his
target market, not I.
>On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:59:07 -0400, bar...@bookpro.com wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:40:17 -0500, "marty" <moon...@bellsouth.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Do what you want BW but whatever ensues you've brought it on yourself after
>>>nicely being asked to stop.
>
>I apologize--- I replied to a cross-posted message in this thread
>before I saw your polite request that people delete your group from
>the newsgroups line.
>It won't happen again from me, anyway.
Y'know, my computer's doing it automatically.
SUBSCIRBE!
Didn't he sign them, and take total credit?
Kris
As if you'd want to
>
>
> I don't think this is art, .........
Whatever the hell it is, the guy is some kind of marketing whiz to have
become a billionaire selling REPRODUCTIONS for thousands of dollars each.
Those are some expensive glorified posters! Too bad Andy Wharhol isn't
around to do his take on Kinkade's kitch .....
Zeno
> Whatever the hell it is, the guy is some kind of marketing whiz to have
I think "defrauder" is the phrase you are looking for, not
"marketing whiz."
This print on the other hand was only $25
http://www.comicartcollective.com/artImages/4A35849E-C638-46C6-B680D67C35E1A03B.jpg
Zeno
Whiz fits nicely.
>I think Thomas Kinkade is the Yngvie Malmsteen of the art world. He's
>famous for having some really good technical skills but people hate the
>content its displayed in. Or maybe Kinkade is the Enya of the paint world.
>Nice chops but boring. Or maybe he's the Mariah Carey of modern painting.
>Nice chops but ridiculously conceited about the mundane. Or maybe Kinkade
>is the Doctor Korvorkian of the modern art world. Your call.
Or maybe he's the Kenny G of the art world--an arrogant hack producing
bland material who thinks that he must be good, because he makes so
much money.
BW
Anyone can make good art that no one wants to buy. Making bad art
and a zillion dollars doing it takes REAL talent.
It's always about race with you. Take your bigotted comments
elsewhere, they're not welcome in alt.gossip.celebrities.
Alan Truism wrote:
> Thomas Kinkade Paints Graceland to Commemorate 50th Anniversary of
> Elvis's Purchase; Press Conference Features Artist and His Plein Air
> Studies on Friday, September 22nd, 2006
> [ http://tinyurl.com/hg4yh ] full URL below:
>
> "MORGAN HILL, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 21, 2006--Elvis Presley
> Enterprises Inc. has selected Thomas Kinkade, the Painter of Light(TM),
> to create a commemorative painting of Graceland, the former home of the
> King of Rock and Roll, Elvis Presley. Thomas Kinkade will create on
> location an original Plein-Air Study that will be featured at a press
> conference held at Graceland on Friday..."
>
> "Who better to capture a classic icon of the American experience like
> Graceland than America's most collected living artist, Thomas Kinkade,"
> stated Kelly Hill, International Licensing Manager for Elvis Presley
> Enterprises Inc."
>
> "Elvis Presley created rock and roll and changed music forever.
> Graceland was his refuge from the demands of his fame. My hope is that
> I will capture on canvas a bit of the home that he loved so much. As
> for me as an artist, I create art that is accessible for everyone, just
> as Elvis created music that is enjoyed by millions of people the world
> over. The Elvis I want to celebrate is the private man; the inspiration
> of how one person can use his or her God-given talent to bring joy to
> millions of people," said Thomas Kinkade in a recent interview.
>
> "Thomas Kinkade is fulfilling his promise as an artist ambassador. In
> many ways, his paintings chronicle all that is good about the American
> experience," says Linda Mariano, Vice President, Marketing & Licensing
> at The Thomas Kinkade Company. "Thom is increasingly interested in
> painting American icons. His forthcoming release of 'The Spirit of New
> York' depicts the Brooklyn Bridge at sunset. Graceland, too, is a
> landmark and holds a special place in the American psyche."
>
> [ http://tinyurl.com/hg4yh ]
> [
> http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20060921005319&newsLang=en
> ]
So what newsgroup are you posting from, Marc? Let's see....the list above
has everything from gossip about celebrities ("They're just like US....they
poop like us, they brush their teeth, too!"), to alt.religion..kibology, to
rec.arts.fine. Gee, I thought all the good artists were dead, too--what can
one talk about in *that* group??
And tell Bill Todman, "Hi!"
Peach
Peach
>and a zillion dollars doing it takes real talented marketing.
IFYPFY.
BW
Yep, he claimed he'd painted them, while Margaret claimed they'd
only agreed to have him pass himself off as the artist as a
marketing ploy (remember, this was the era of institutional sexism.)
They eventually ended up in federal court, each claiming to be the
artist. In a courtroom challenge, Margaret produced a 'big-eyes'
painting in about 45 minutes. Her husband refused to paint at all,
claiming a bum shoulder. Several years later he refused a similar
challenge. Anyway, the court found that Margaret was indeed, as
she'd claimed, the actual artist.
I've got a Keane repro from my childhood, and Kincade's saccarinely
sentimental styling absolutely blends right in with the Keane
kitsch.
HellT
Thanks for the refresher. When the case was in the news, the
prints were big sellers...but like all schlock, once it dies, it buries
itself for many more years.
We're seeing Kincade's unsold in the thrift stores now. That's
a good sign.
Kris
As I said:
It's not really Kinkade's paintings that bug artzy fartzies. It's the
prices they achieve along with the folksy yak that goes with them. Its
really no worse than every day Artspeak drivel.
Lots of failures are still imitating Picasso's intellectual kitsch.
It's much easier than imitating Kinkade.
> Fantasia_Burro wrote:
>
>> Kincade does paint well, but is it a classic example of style over
>> substance? And does he care, being at the top of the world? Some of his
>> stuff reminds me of Art Moore, one of the old 50s illustrators. That guy
>> could kick ass.
>
> Kincade is the contemporary Margaret Keane, whose paintings of
> big-eyed waifs were the biggest kitsch art fad of the early-mid
> 1960s.
>
> Dollar-store art for trailer-trash tastes.
>
Ha! I remember those things. Probably find them all over Ebay now.
ah! an even better analogy, i forgot all about Kenny G.... a very good
player, technically.
>Thanks for the refresher. When the case was in the news, the
>prints were big sellers...but like all schlock, once it dies, it buries
>itself for many more years.
>
>We're seeing Kincade's unsold in the thrift stores now. That's
>a good sign.
I'm gonna start mass-producing big-eyed waifs in brightly lit
landscapes and become:
Chris McGonnell, Painter of Orphan Light (TM).
Marc's real name is Dake-Bono?
Note to self: do not click any link posted by someone who can't help
themselves.
yD -- running & screaming
> Kris
> >
>On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:01:52 -0400, Fantasia_Burro wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 07:58:55 GMT, Richard Palmer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Just so long as they don't try and pretend it's art .
>>
>>
>>
>>ut oh. wait a minnit. now you're attemtping to force your definition of
>>"art" as "the truth". Art is many things to many people. theres no one
>>definition. This has been tried millions of times before and it never
>>works.
>
>I know what I like. I like to watch.
>
IFYPFY.
--
If we could live without passion maybe we'd know some kind of peace, but we
would be hollow. Empty rooms, shuttered and dank. Without passion we'd be truly dead.
--David Boreanaz as Angel in "Buffy The Vampire Slayer"
>Yep, he claimed he'd painted them, while Margaret claimed they'd
>only agreed to have him pass himself off as the artist as a
>marketing ploy (remember, this was the era of institutional sexism.)
>They eventually ended up in federal court, each claiming to be the
>artist. In a courtroom challenge, Margaret produced a 'big-eyes'
>painting in about 45 minutes. Her husband refused to paint at all,
>claiming a bum shoulder. Several years later he refused a similar
>challenge. Anyway, the court found that Margaret was indeed, as
>she'd claimed, the actual artist.
You have to admit, though, that her ex-husband really came into his
own when he began drawing "Family Circus."
>Your wish is my command, this reply is not going to aek.
Now it is. You're welcome.
>The last thing I need to do is debate with a smart-ass.
Yet here you are.
>The message I
>reponded to, that you answered, is the second request I made for you people
>who normally didn't post on aek to stop cross posting. The first time I
>said "Please", the second time, the one you answered, I left that word off.
>If you people were nice understanding people you all would have stopped
>cross posting after the first request, however it seems that you either
>don't understand english or you prefer to annoy. Maybe you're not mature
>enough not to do it to just seek attention.
>
>Do what you want BW but whatever ensues you've brought it on yourself after
>nicely being asked to stop.
Son, what exactly is going to ensue? Rise up on your hind legs and
tell us, mmm-kay?
>On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:59:07 -0400, bar...@bookpro.com wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 16:40:17 -0500, "marty" <moon...@bellsouth.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Do what you want BW but whatever ensues you've brought it on yourself after
>>>nicely being asked to stop.
>
>I apologize--- I replied to a cross-posted message in this thread
>before I saw your polite request that people delete your group from
>the newsgroups line.
>It won't happen again from me, anyway.
>
I also feel bad about replying to a cross-posted message earlier. In
my defense, I wasn't crossposting but instead was merely following up
to a cross-posted message. Please accept my apologies. As Darla says,
it won't happen again.
>I have some photos ofThomas Kincade painting Graceland. If you want
>them, please let me know.
I have some photos of people taking photos of Thomas Kincade painting
Graceland. If you are refining the definition of "fatuous absurdity,"
please let me know. I expect they will be of considerable use.