Appreciating Andy Griffith's positive influence

[J]

America has lost a legend. Andy Griffith epitomized the values and
decency that once prevailed in this country. RIP Andy.








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TV legend Andy Griffith, 86, died this morning at his home in North
Carolina.

Griffith is best remembered for his starring role as Mayberry, North
Carolina's Sheriff Andy Taylor in the 1960s series The Andy Griffith
Show. Dan Gainor, a Hollywood critic with the Media Research Center
(MRC), says the big credit to Griffith's career is the wholesome
entertainment he gave to America, which is so hard to find now.

"You look at Andy Griffith, and he was very much in that show a father
figure, and a lot of the lessons he taught reflect the values of America
at that time," Gainor asserts. "They're straight out of the Bible:
You've got to be honest, you can't lie, you're to respect your parents
-- just working the way down the Ten Commandments."

The MRC spokesman points out that in the enduring TV favorite The Andy
Griffith Show, even when bad people came into Mayberry they were always
stopped by good people.

He notes the famous quote that says, "All it takes for evil to triumph
is for good men to do nothing" -- and suggests that "Andy Griffith was
that good man, and not just in Mayberry. But when you watch programs
like that, just as corrupt programs can corrupt you, good programs can
influence you as well."

Griffith also starred in Matlock in the 1980s and '90s. Before taking on
television, he won wide praise in the 1950s in the Broadway comedy No
Time for Sergeants. His film debut was in the 1957 movie A Face in the
Crowd.















--
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com

[Mitchell Holman]

J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:5ot3vs....@news.alt.net:

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> decency that once prevailed in this country. RIP Andy.
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> TV legend Andy Griffith, 86, died this morning at his home in North
> Carolina.
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> Griffith is best remembered for his starring role as Mayberry, North
> Carolina's Sheriff Andy Taylor in the 1960s series The Andy Griffith
> Show. Dan Gainor, a Hollywood critic with the Media Research Center
> (MRC), says the big credit to Griffith's career is the wholesome
> entertainment he gave to America, which is so hard to find now.
>
> "You look at Andy Griffith, and he was very much in that show a father
> figure, and a lot of the lessons he taught reflect the values of
America
> at that time," Gainor asserts. "They're straight out of the Bible:
> You've got to be honest, you can't lie, you're to respect your parents
> -- just working the way down the Ten Commandments."
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> The MRC spokesman points out that in the enduring TV favorite The Andy
> Griffith Show, even when bad people came into Mayberry they were always
> stopped by good people.

That is to say, good white people.

Is there ANY town in N Carolina with no blacks?

Besides Mayberry, that is...............

[thomas p.]

"Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> skrev i meddelelsen
news:XnsA08649C81287A...@216.196.121.131...

Some critic back when the show was still being made called Mayberry a town
in the depression South without Blacks and without the depression. It was,
however, a pleasant little show with competent actors; there is no need to
make it more than it was for good or bad.

--
thomas p

Ignorance is the mother of devotion.

David Hume

[Michael Black]

Lots of shows didn't have black people it represents a certain time. One
might make the case that they kept black people out of the show because
otherwise it would either have to be racist, or deal with the issue, and
it was a comedy.

I remember in the eighties, "The Love Boat" did a flashback sequence to
WWII, and suddenly the troupes were mixed, which doesn't reflect reality.
The absence of black people in older shows is not a good thing, but likely
better than not showing the truth.

I watched the movie "Eve's Bayou" a couple of years ago, before Jurnee
Smollett hit the big time with that lawyer show, "The Defenders". It's
sort of like a black version of Mayberry, the deep south but no white
people appear. And it's a wonderful place, the reality of segregation and
racism doesn't appear. I remember someone talking about that sort of
thing on "Fresh Air" on NPR, that segregation and racism helped to cause
community, and as things changed, that community slowly dissolved. They
weren't saying segregation and racism were a good thing, only that in
having to look inward because of it, black people did have a sense of
community.

Michael

[marcus]

> jdyou...@ymail.com

Apparently Google isn't posting intial posts, only posts on existing
threads. I posted this as an initial post yesterday, around 1:30 PM
EDST, sorry for any eventual duplication:





"The Andy Griffith Show" is my favorite show of all-time.



I just learned of his death at the age of 86.



It hasn't hit me yet, but once I get home and see all the TV
retrospectives on the news, tears will appear I'm sure.



Really admired and loved the guy. Had the pleasure of visiting his
hometown of Mt. Airy once. Got to sit in Floyd's barber chair too.



My favorite scene from the show:



http://marccatone.webs.com/apps/videos/videos/show/12041064-andy-griffith-show



Marc

[Mitchell Holman]

Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote in
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.12...@darkstar.example.net:

Some of us can remember the outrage over the
first interracial kiss on television. Of course
it took place on a Star Trek episode in the sixties,
and even then Kirk and Ohura were posseessed by
aliens and thus there was no need for the
complications of an ongoing romance.

Still, it was a start...........

[Mike Painter]

On 7/4/2012 8:48 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>
> Some of us can remember the outrage over the
> first interracial kiss on television. Of course
> it took place on a Star Trek episode in the sixties,
> and even then Kirk and Ohura were posseessed by
> aliens and thus there was no need for the
> complications of an ongoing romance.
>
> Still, it was a start...........

I recently watched the Dick Van Dyke show where he is certain his new
baby was switched ion the hospital.
The black couple (the only ones in the whole series) who shows up at
the end of the show laughing at him was apparently a really big deal
back then.

[Syd M.]

On Jul 3, 11:48 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:

> America has lost a legend. Andy Griffith epitomized the values and
> decency that once prevailed in this country. RIP Andy.
>

And what do you know about 'decency', indecent, evil, asshole?

[MarkA]

I remember that episode. It was a good series. I also remember when Bill
Cosby introduced white America to a black family that looked and acted
like they did.

--
MarkA

If you can read this, you can stop reading now.

[mikey]

Speaking of Star Trek and racism, I don't recall the Enterprise
cafeteria ever serving fried chicken, but I do remember Opie being
referred to as a "good eater" by aunt Bea on the Andy griffith show.

[Mitchell Holman]

mikey <nilss...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1a8d0a69-b85a-447d-a01d-
7222bc...@x39g2000yqx.googlegroups.com:

> Speaking of Star Trek and racism, I don't recall the Enterprise
> cafeteria ever serving fried chicken, but I do remember Opie being
> referred to as a "good eater" by aunt Bea on the Andy griffith show.
>

I don't think Star Trek had cafeterias. Food
replicators in quarters seemed to be their norm.

They did, of course, have a saloon. Gotta
have a drinking hole to socialize in..........

[Professor Bubba]

In article <XnsA086B00D8D801...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell

Holman wrote:

> mikey <nilss...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1a8d0a69-b85a-447d-a01d-
> 7222bc...@x39g2000yqx.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Speaking of Star Trek and racism, I don't recall the Enterprise
> > cafeteria ever serving fried chicken, but I do remember Opie being
> > referred to as a "good eater" by aunt Bea on the Andy griffith show.
> >
>
>
> I don't think Star Trek had cafeterias. Food
> replicators in quarters seemed to be their norm.

There was a galley. Cf. "Charlie X."

BTW, the cook who tells Kirk that the meatloaf has been turned into
real turkey was played by Gene Roddenberry. It's his only "appearance"
in the series.

[Harry F. Leopold]

On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 09:26:43 -0500, marcus wrote
(in article
<0e1d425f-bb9a-49c1...@o4g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>):

My favorite Andy Griffith show? "A Face in the Crowd." Absolutely the best
done cautionary tale ever.

--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)

"(St. Paul)... preached holy acrimony, which is another
name for marriage."-12/31/95 issue of National Review

[Father Haskell]

On Jul 4, 6:34 pm, Professor Bubba <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> wrote:
> In article <XnsA086B00D8D801nomailcomcast...@216.196.121.131>, Mitchell
>
> Holman wrote:
> > mikey <nilssso...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1a8d0a69-b85a-447d-a01d-
> > 7222bcda0...@x39g2000yqx.googlegroups.com:

>
> > > Speaking of Star Trek and racism, I don't recall the Enterprise
> > > cafeteria ever serving fried chicken, but I do remember Opie  being
> > > referred to as a "good eater" by aunt Bea on the Andy griffith show.
>
> >     I don't think Star Trek had cafeterias. Food
> > replicators in quarters seemed to be their norm.
>
> There was a galley.  Cf. "Charlie X."
>
> BTW, the cook who tells Kirk that the meatloaf has been turned into
> real turkey was played by Gene Roddenberry.  It's his only "appearance"
> in the series.

That beats hell out of loaves and fishes as a miracle.

[mikey]

Galley: that's the name that escaped me.
Also, Griffith's "A face in the crowd" is just as great as ever.
Timeless.
I'll never forget Floyd, during slow days at the barber shop,
pushing haircuts on Andy, pointing at the back of his neck and
mentioning that Andy was getting "a little shaggy back there."

[zardoz]

On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 20:20:36 -0500, Dennis M
<denn...@dennism3.invalid> wrote:

>In article <4ff443f7$0$56787$edfa...@dtext02.news.tele.dk>,

> "thomas p." <gud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > "Mitchell Holman" <nomailcomcast.net> skrev i meddelelsen
>> > news:XnsA08649C81287A...@216.196.121.131...

>> > That is to say, good white people.
>> >
>> > Is there ANY town in N Carolina with no blacks?
>> >
>> > Besides Mayberry, that is...............
>> >
>>
>>
>> Some critic back when the show was still being made called Mayberry a town
>> in the depression South without Blacks and without the depression. It was,
>> however, a pleasant little show with competent actors; there is no need to
>> make it more than it was for good or bad.
>

>I think there are some episodes, particularly toward the end of the
>series, where there were black extras. I know in the episode when Opie
>forsakes piano lessons to play on the football team ("Opie's Piano
>Lesson," 3/13/67) the fellow who coached the team was black.

I just read this thread and decided to watch some episodes. The very
first one I watch, in the first crowd scene there's a women who might
well be an octoroon or even a quadroon! lol

[zardoz]

[zardoz]

On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 10:02:39 -0400, zardoz <a@b.c> wrote:

And now there's another one who is most certainly black. We've been
misinformed.

[M.L.]

>Some critic back when the show was still being made called Mayberry a town
>in the depression South without Blacks and without the depression. It was,
>however, a pleasant little show with competent actors; there is no need to
>make it more than it was for good or bad.

Wasn't Mayberry a contemporary sitcom? What depression was going on in
the early 60's?

[marcus]

Griffith always said that they filmed his show as if it were a movie
of the 1930s or 40s. Mayberry more closely resembled towns of that
era.

[Michael Black]

And Green Acres and Petticoat Junction were similar. They were all inward
looking societies, the "outer world" rarely intruded. With Green Acres,
that was the setup, Oliver Wendall Douglas felt so out of place in that
area, yet the locals couldn't understand what he was fussing about.

Michael

[thomas p.]

"M.L." <m...@privacy.invalid> skrev i meddelelsen
news:9m7fv79nok9ur07li...@4ax.com...

It wasn't meant as literally true. The program presented a sentimental
picture of a small town, one that many people would like to think existed in
some golden age.

[Dano]

"thomas p." wrote in message
news:4ff83608$0$56794$edfa...@dtext02.news.tele.dk...

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And was it really any more or less realistic than any given sitcom?

[Annette Jackson]

I saw his movie last nite on TCM, he lived in Wilmington, NC--not far
from me. He was not a very nice person, most ppl that ran into him out
and about said he wud not speak and was very rude. i know ppl are ppl,
but no reason to be ugly or nasty to ur fans......

[Adam H. Kerman]

Because they use l33t speak and post to Usenet with sock puppets
pretending to be little girls?

[Michael OConnor]

> > Wasn't Mayberry a contemporary sitcom? What depression was going on in
> > the early 60's?
>
> Griffith always said that they filmed his show as if it were a movie
> of the 1930s or 40s.  Mayberry more closely resembled towns of that
> era.

I think the show has aged well, the stories are timeless.

There are people who will criticize the show because there were no
transgender characters on the show, nobody in Mayberry who wore their
pants hanging halfway down their thighs so you could see their
underwear, you never saw any ladies with somebody's name tattooed on
the side of their neck above the collar line, no eleven year old girls
wearing "horny" T shirts and short shorts that read "bootylicious" on
the behind, no avowed athiests or socialists or goths in Mayberry, no
twenty year old women with four kids and they have never been married,
no paroled pedophiles, nobody with piercings on their nose or face,
ears excepted, no characters who just refuse to work and think the
Government owes them something, and no poor people who can somehow
afford gold-plated grills.

[thomas p.]

"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:jt9dd2$9cq$1...@dont-email.me...

If it had been, it would not have been a sitcom. On the other hand it was
better done than most.

[marcus]

On Jul 8, 2:31 am, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelelsennews:jt9dd2$9cq$1...@dont-email.me...

[marcus]

On Jul 8, 2:31 am, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelelsennews:jt9dd2$9cq$1...@dont-email.me...

IMHO, the Any Griffith Show was the best TV show of all time, with
M*A*S*H running close behind in 2nd place.

Marc

http://marccatone.webs.com/thegiantschair.htm

[Dano]

"marcus" wrote in message
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IMHO, the Any Griffith Show was the best TV show of all time, with
M*A*S*H running close behind in 2nd place.

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Sha-zam! Well y'all sure are entitled to your opinion.

I liked it a lot. Fond memories of growing up watching Andy, Opie and
friends. But the all time best TV show bar none? Nah. Not even in my
personal top ten.

M*A*S*H ranks very high in my list of sitcoms. Without placing them in any
particular order (too hard for me...and irrelevant anyway)...

All in the Family...Barney Miller...Maude (who says liberals don't get
skewered, mocked and satirized?)...Golden
Girls...TAXI...WKRP...Seinfeld...The Munsters and The Addams Family.

I'm sure I'm leaving out a few very worthy ones...oh...like Happy Days and
Mork & Mindy. There have been a lot of good ones...not so many these
days...again...taste...but I would have to put Modern Family up there too.
Comedy is just SO subjective...we'll never all agree. I'm sure many of my
faves would be revolting to many others.

[thomas p.]

"marcus" <marc...@yahoo.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:f0cea098-e5d4-44d2...@l4g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

I can certainly not agree with that. I think it was a very superior sitcom,
probably one of the best made, but hardly the best TV show of all time.

[marcus]

FWIW(which probably isn't much), my fave comedies after Griffith and
M*A*S*H are(not in any order) Leave It To Beaver, I Love Lucy, The
Honeymooners, Everybody Loves Raymond, Seinfeld, Taxi, Two and a Half
Men, Dobie Gillis, Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart, Cheers, Big Bang
Theory.

I used to have "All In The Family" on my list, and still appreciate
what a break-through show it was, but when I see it now, it just
hasn't aged well. It was ahead of its time, but now seems "old hat".
"Maude" was OK. btw, I couldn't stand the last couple of years of Two
and a Half Men, but the early years were funny.

Any show that can induce a belly-laugh, at least one, in every episode
is a good one for me.

[Remysun]

On Jul 3, 11:48 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:


> The MRC spokesman points out that in the enduring TV favorite The Andy
> Griffith Show, even when bad people came into Mayberry they were always
> stopped by good people.
>
> He notes the famous quote that says, "All it takes for evil to triumph
> is for good men to do nothing" -- and suggests that "Andy Griffith was
> that good man, and not just in Mayberry. But when you watch programs
> like that, just as corrupt programs can corrupt you, good programs can
> influence you as well."

So Andy did nothing?