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PeaceDove6

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Oct 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/11/98
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andyst wrote:>Bowie Proves Top Of The Pops With Stars<BR>
><BR>
>His career may be a series of critical highs and lows - but David<BR>
>Bowie has proved to be an enduring hit with contemporaries who named<BR>
>him the top music star of the past 30 years in a new poll.<BR>
><BR>
>The 51-year-old rock icon edged ahead of The Beatles as the most<BR>
>important act of the last three decades, according to the survey of<BR>
>pop stars, musicians, critics and industry figures.<BR>
><BR>
>The poll was compiled by London listings magazine Time Out to mark its<BR>
>30th birthday, with votes from stars like Boy George, Robbie Williams<BR>
>and Mick Hucknall.<BR>
><BR>
>Bowie released his first album 31 years ago and has continually<BR>
>reinvented himself to take account of the prevailing fashion - if not<BR>
>shaping it.<BR>
><BR>
>He has been at the forefront of glam rock, Seventies soul, and<BR>
>Eighties funk as well as being a leading light of the New Romantic era<BR>
>and the leader of a fully fledged - but critically ridiculed - rock<BR>
>band, Tin Machine.<BR>
><BR>
>His skills as a collaborator have given a springboard to the careers<BR>
>of Mott The Hoople, Lou Reed and Iggy Pop.<BR>
><BR>
>And even in the past year, his Let's Dance single was used as the<BR>
>inspiration for Puff Daddy's hit Been Around The World, while his<BR>
>career has been the loose inspiration for Ewan McGregor's new film<BR>
>Velvet Goldmine.<BR>
><BR>
>Time Out critic Garry Mulholland said: "David Bowie irrevocably<BR>
>altered our culture. "In terms of influence, the only new development<BR>
>in pop's last 30 years that he hasn't had some kind of influence on is<BR>
>drum'n'bass."<BR>
><BR>
>The list in full:<BR>
>1. David Bowie<BR>
>2. Beatles<BR>
>3. Bob Marley<BR>
>4. James Brown<BR>
>5. Marvin Gaye<BR>
>6. Jimi Hendrix<BR>
>7. Stevie Wonder<BR>
>8. Kraftwerk<BR>
>9. Iggy Pop<BR>
>10. Bob Dylan<BR>
>11. Stone Roses<BR>
>12. New Order<BR>
>13.Led Zeppelin<BR>
>14. Public Enemy<BR>
>15. Tom Waits<BR>
>16. Happy Mondays<BR>
>17. Al Green<BR>
>18. The Clash<BR>
>19. Abba<BR>
>20. Marc Bolan<BR>
>21. Joni Mitchell<BR>
>22. Van Morrison<BR>
>23. Sex Pistols<BR>
>24. Kate Bush<BR>
>25. Rolling Stones<BR>
>26. Patti Smith<BR>
>27. Aretha Franklin<BR>
>28. Sly & the Family Stone<BR>
>29. Miles Davies<BR>
>30= Blur<BR>
>30 = Pixies<BR>

Any time one of these lists are generated your bound to get a WHAAAAT?? and
this is my WHAAAT..

What is this crap? Bowie before Beatles..before Dylan...?????????? Come on
now..What has Bowie contributed to pop or errr....music..aside from creating
his Ziggy Pop persona...it boggles the mind..I will contend that he's a shrewd
business person and must have invested well since he's been dubbed one of the
riches performers in the world..but as far as "altering our culture"..hardly. I
don't see it.

If anything Dylan has been the most influential..his music and style have been
emulated time and endless time again since the early 60's.Throughout the
decades his phrasing, lyrics and music styles have been copied, cloned and
re-created by countless musicians...Beatles included..

I'm also kind of wondering where is Elvis on this list.?

Time Out should be getting tons of mail over this one..

PEACE

BraincsDtr

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Oct 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/11/98
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How about Abba ranked higher than the Rolling Stones?


Laurie C.

Andrew Stewart

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Oct 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/11/98
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On 11 Oct 1998 14:47:04 GMT, peace...@aol.com (PeaceDove6) wrote:

In the UK (which is where the survey looks at), Bowie has had a large
influence on Glam, punk, New Romantic, dance, all forms of
electronica, synthpop, Brit soul and funk, Britpop and Goth.

You have to remember that what's being considered here is the
influence on all music that has been popular in the UK for the last 30
years. Like the Time Out critic said, Bowie has influenced just about
every important musical movement in Britain in the past 30 years.
Hell, on this week's Jo Whiley show on Brit TV I saw the new ragga
single by a frontrunner in the genre, called "Fashion '98", based on
Bowie's "Fashion". There's another dance song in the UK charts at the
moment based on Bowie's "Memory Of A Free Festival". What influence
have the Beatles had on ragga or electronic dance?

The Beatles have influenced Britpop and Beatles-soundalike bands, but
apart from that, not much. Bowie's had a bigger influence on dance,
Glam, punk, all electronic genres, synthpop, British soul and funk, so
looking at the overall picture, Bowie is the right #1. At #2, the
Beatles are still overrated, helped no doubt by the generally
unquestioning public acceptance that they have been much more
influential than they really have been.

>If anything Dylan has been the most influential..his music and style have been
>emulated time and endless time again since the early 60's.

Not in the UK. Give me a list of "clearly influenced by Dylan" UK
performers, and I'll give you a much longer list of performers
influenced by Bowie, or The Beatles.

>I'm also kind of wondering where is Elvis on this list.?

He isn't. It's a Top 30, and he didn't make that.

(np: David Bowie - Low)

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Andrew Stewart

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On 11 Oct 1998 17:47:44 GMT, brain...@aol.com (BraincsDtr) wrote:

>
>How about Abba ranked higher than the Rolling Stones?

Abba have influenced a lot of crappy pop/dance bands, and since the
list considers all types of music popular in the UK in the list, they
deserve their placing.

The Stones haven't really influenced as many UK bands. Most UK bands
operating in that area tend to bypass the Stones and be more
influenced by the black Americans the Stones derived inspiration from
(note the presence of many more black Americans at the top of the list
than white Americans). The Stones have had more of an influence in the
States. There's no UK band that sounds anything like as near to the
Stones as Aerosmith do.

(np: David Bowie - Earthling)

StThork

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Oct 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/12/98
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BraincsDtr wrote:

>How about Abba ranked higher than the Rolling Stones?

How about ABBA on the list at all?

=Uncle Robbie
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