Celebrities Among Victims of Tsunami
m mr
Tuesday December 28, 2004
BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) - A German statesman, a Czech supermodel and a
Swedish Olympic ski champion were among the vacationers whose search
for peace and sun in tropical southern Asia was shattered by the
tsunamis that spared neither rich nor poor.
Petra Nemcova - who appeared on the cover of 2003 Sports Illustrated
swimsuit issue - was carried away with her boyfriend, the fashion
photographer Simon Atlee, after a huge wave plowed into southern
Thailand on Sunday.
Nemcova's New York spokesman, Rob Shuter, said the model and her
boyfriend had been vacationing in the resort of Phuket when waves
overwhelmed their beach hut.
Nemcova, 25, clung to a tree for eight hours as the water swirled
around her. She was recovering in a Thai hospital from broken bones,
possibly including a broken pelvis, and unspecified internal injuries.
Atlee, 33, was swallowed by the raging waters and was still missing
Tuesday.
``I've spoken to Petra several times and she's in pretty bad shape,''
Shuter said. ``She's on pain medication. She probably doesn't realize
yet the magnitude of the disaster.''
Former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl was on holiday in Sri Lanka's
pristine south - one of the areas most devastated by tsunamis.
Kohl and his entourage were evacuated Tuesday from a hotel by the Sri
Lankan air force.
``The helicopter went and we managed to bring him back with six
others,'' Commander Air Marshal Donald Perera told The Associated
Press.
Swedish skiing great Ingemar Stenmark was sunbathing in Thailand when
he saw an immense wave roaring to shore. He ran for his life.
Stenmark - who won two gold medals at the 1980 Olympics and '86 World
Cup races - was with friends in Khok Kloi, about 30 miles from Phuket.
``The water from the first wave disappeared, but then it came back
with terrifying speed,'' Stenmark told Swedish media. He and his
girlfriend were not injured.
Another athlete wasn't so lucky. Troy Broadbridge, an Australian Rules
rugby player, was on his honeymoon in Phuket when he and his bride
were swamped as they strolled along a beach. Trisha Broadbridge was
safe, but he was still missing Tuesday.
Several Italian soccer players - including AC Milan striker Filippo
Inzaghi, Milan captain Paolo Maldini, and Juventus defender Gianluca
Zambrotta - were caught in the maelstrom in the Maldives but were
unhurt.
Thailand's royal family also were among the grieving. The
Thai-American grandson of King Bhumipol Adulyadej, Poom Jensen, 21,
was reportedly jet skiing when the tidal wave struck Phuket. His body
was found later.
Hollywood actor-director Richard Attenborough's family also suffered
tragedy. His granddaughter, Lucy, 14, perished and his daughter, Jane,
and her mother-in-law are missing in Phuket. Another granddaughter,
Alice, 17, was being treated in a hospital.
Attenborough's directorial credits include ``Cry Freedom,''
``Chaplin'' and the Oscar-winning ``Gandhi.'' He has appeared in
scores of films including ``The Great Escape,'' ``Elizabeth'' and
``Jurassic Park.''
On Thailand's Phi Phi island, where ``The Beach'' starring Leonardo
DiCaprio was filmed, 200 bungalows at two resorts were swept out to
sea, and resort officials said many foreign tourists were among the
missing.
Designer Nate Berkus, a regular contributor on ``The Oprah Winfrey
Show,'' was carried away with a friend by a tsunami after it ripped
off the roof of their hut in Sri Lanka.
They briefly clung to a telephone poll, but a second wave ripped them
away. Berkus climbed to safety on the roof of a submerged home - but
his friend disappeared into the raging sea.
BBNWO
Verizon User
incessantly talking about these three "celebrity" (and I use the term
loosely) survivors?
The other thing I find annoying is that there were 60,000+ killed but to
bring it close to home, they keep showing some blond haired 3 year old kid
survivor with scratches all over his face (when 99% of the people killed or
surviving were brown). I usually don't care about these things, but it just
kind of struck me as odd this time. Why should people care about this one
kid? The media kind of shows this in a way to say "see- isn't it sad? This
poor cute blonde kid." As if it wouldn't REALLY be sad unless there was a
blonde kid in the picture.
Any thoughts?
"m mr" <no...@m.com> wrote in message
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Stormstruck
"Verizon User" <anon...@anon.com> wrote in message
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> With 60,000 people killed, anyone a little annoyed that the news has been
> incessantly talking about these three "celebrity" (and I use the term
> loosely) survivors?
>
> The other thing I find annoying is that there were 60,000+ killed but to
> bring it close to home, they keep showing some blond haired 3 year old kid
> survivor with scratches all over his face (when 99% of the people killed
> or
> surviving were brown). I usually don't care about these things, but it
> just
> kind of struck me as odd this time. Why should people care about this one
> kid? The media kind of shows this in a way to say "see- isn't it sad?
> This
> poor cute blonde kid." As if it wouldn't REALLY be sad unless there was a
> blonde kid in the picture.
>
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
I'm pissed off that because the USA has the shits with Burma (Myanmar) no
mention has been made. They are people too, they can't help it if there is
a military ruler presiding over them.
We are waiting for news of friends and business associates in Myanmar.
Sadly Australia is the 51st state of the USA and we use their newsfeeds and
parrot their policies.
Meanwhile terrorists continue to blow shit up, I wonder when the human race
will finish itself off?
theresa
starving kids in Africa or something exactly like we are
seeing now, it isn't quite the same as seeing kids from
Western countries. He was shocked at himself for this, but
freely admitted it.
In looking atthe various news sites, the US News reports on
dead Americans and people Americans will recognize, the
Btits do the same with their subjects, France is keeping
count of their people (and focusing on one French-run resort
in Thailand), etc.
If a bus load of Sri Lankan tourists fell off the edge of
the Grand Canyon, I wonder how it would be reported? I
think the first question US people would ask is -- "Was the
driver American?"
Chris Pisarra
> I'm pissed off that because the USA has the shits with Burma
> (Myanmar) no mention has been made. They are people too, they can't
> help it if there is a military ruler presiding over them.
>
> We are waiting for news of friends and business associates in Myanmar.
>
> Sadly Australia is the 51st state of the USA and we use their
> newsfeeds and parrot their policies.
news.google.com uses 4500 newsfeeds from all over
the world, with all possible political slants. You should be able to
find plenty of news there.
Know the name of any journals, newspapers,
websites, periodicals of any kind in Myanmar? Look them up online.
The information is there if you look for it instead
of finding another conspiracy to whine about.
Chris
--
Higamous hogamus,
Woman's monagamous.
Hogamous higamus,
Man is polygamous
---Dorothy Parker
RobH
Yes, I noticed that. It pretty much reflects reality in this country. My
son lives in and works in Oklahoma. He said many of his co-workers were
saying who cares, it is just a bunch of muslims, the world is better off
without them. Hate and racism in America seems to be on the rise.
Stormstruck
"Chris Pisarra" <Ch...@Pisarra.com> wrote in message
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> Stormstruck burbled to the world:
>
>> I'm pissed off that because the USA has the shits with Burma
>> (Myanmar) no mention has been made. They are people too, they can't
>> help it if there is a military ruler presiding over them.
>>
>> We are waiting for news of friends and business associates in Myanmar.
>>
>> Sadly Australia is the 51st state of the USA and we use their
>> newsfeeds and parrot their policies.
>
> news.google.com uses 4500 newsfeeds from all over
> the world, with all possible political slants. You should be able to
> find plenty of news there.
>
> Know the name of any journals, newspapers,
> websites, periodicals of any kind in Myanmar? Look them up online.
>
> The information is there if you look for it instead
> of finding another conspiracy to whine about.
>
> Chris
>
Oh sorry, I'll just buy a computer for my dad, ship it to him and command
him to use google.
Fuck off you yank loving troll.
Breakfast at TiffanSpanglies
"Chris Pisarra" <Ch...@Pisarra.com> wrote in message
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According to some friends of my aunt who do missionary work over there,
there's news to be gathered in Burma, Chris, but the military is keeping the
foreign press from getting the news and keeping the domestic press from
releasing it. It's basically at a standstill, in other words.
Below is what Beryl, my aunt's missionary friend from England who's going
back to Thailand on January 11th (to the Karenni Camps up in the mountains,
not to the coast in Phuket, which was hit) said in an email this week. It's
not a conspiracy that's made up that people are whining about. REAL people
who *work over there* can't get the information they need about Burma
because it's not being released. If the military junta is keeping it from
being released, that means it's not released on paper, on television, on
radio, *OR* on the web. ALL media outlets, in other words. The information
is tied up and can't just "Be Googled". You can't Google the news if it
hasn't even BEEN DISTRIBUTED via the proper outlets.
"However large areas of the coast of Burma to the west of Thailand where
there are many other oppressed ethnic minority people (the Mon people) are
bound to have been hit - and we are awaiting reports from there.
Unfortunately although there is lots of news from Thailand, India, Sri
Lanka and Indonesia, there is nothing getting out about Burma, since the
military junta there do not allow journalists or TV companies into their
country."
JN
Breakfast at TiffanSpanglies
"Stormstruck" <storms...@NOSPAMMYhotmail.com> wrote in message
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Well said, Stormstruck. Well said indeed. Chis is as ignorant as they come,
unfortunately.
JN
Stormstruck
news:1104282255.374290@aragorn...
>
> "Chris Pisarra" <Ch...@Pisarra.com> wrote in message
> news:2oudnekSCd1...@comcast.com...
Snipped his crap.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> According to some friends of my aunt who do missionary work over there,
> there's news to be gathered in Burma, Chris, but the military is keeping
> the foreign press from getting the news and keeping the domestic press
> from releasing it. It's basically at a standstill, in other words.
>
> Below is what Beryl, my aunt's missionary friend from England who's going
> back to Thailand on January 11th (to the Karenni Camps up in the
> mountains, not to the coast in Phuket, which was hit) said in an email
> this week. It's not a conspiracy that's made up that people are whining
> about. REAL people who *work over there* can't get the information they
> need about Burma because it's not being released. If the military junta is
> keeping it from being released, that means it's not released on paper, on
> television, on radio, *OR* on the web. ALL media outlets, in other words.
> The information is tied up and can't just "Be Googled". You can't Google
> the news if it hasn't even BEEN DISTRIBUTED via the proper outlets.
>
> "However large areas of the coast of Burma to the west of Thailand where
> there are many other oppressed ethnic minority people (the Mon people) are
> bound to have been hit - and we are awaiting reports from there.
> Unfortunately although there is lots of news from Thailand, India, Sri
> Lanka and Indonesia, there is nothing getting out about Burma, since the
> military junta there do not allow journalists or TV companies into their
> country."
>
>
>
>
Thank you very much for that information.
My dads friend who is Burmese has been trying to phone there, but I would
imagine their infrastructure is smashed up like everyone elses is...
It's very frustrating to not know anything.
Breakfast at TiffanSpanglies
"Stormstruck"
> Thank you very much for that information.
>
Sure, no problem. Glad it helped you.
:-)
> My dads friend who is Burmese has been trying to phone there, but I would
> imagine their infrastructure is smashed up like everyone elses is...
>
> It's very frustrating to not know anything.
>
>
Yeah, that's what Beryl said in various different statements she made in her
letter, too. It's hard/frustrating when she's leaving so soon not to know
these things.
JN
vite Francia
"RobH" <R...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, I noticed that. It pretty much reflects reality in this country. My
> son lives in and works in Oklahoma. He said many of his co-workers were
> saying who cares, it is just a bunch of muslims, the world is better off
> without them.
Perhaps they were getting hate lessons from the European press. Ground Zero
was still smoldering when toilet paper like the Guardian said that America
"deserved" 9/11.
> Hate and racism in America seems to be on the rise.
Bullshit. One constant complaint is that Americans don't know anything
outside their border. If we're to believe this, then how the hell would a
bunch of rednecks in Oklahoma know that there are muslims in Sri Lanka? This
tragedy does, however, demonstrate the remarkable insanity contained in the
noggins of America-hating bigots.
Chris Pisarra
>>> Sadly Australia is the 51st state of the USA and we use their
>>> newsfeeds and parrot their policies.
Then made a fuss that the lack of news was related to the
military government in Myanmar.
See if you can stick to one argument at a time, okay bozo?
>
> Fuck off you yank loving troll.
An example of the wisdom and wittiness of this clown. Of
course I'm yank loving, I'm a yank.
"Troll" hardly applies to someone who has been posting here
for years--as opposed to a clown who just showed up to spew blatherskate
and inanity, like you.
chris
--
Early to rise and early to bed makes a man healthy, wealthy and dead.
James Thurber
RobH
news:10t45cc...@corp.supernews.com:
The only bullshit is the foul crap coming out of your mouth. You are
just another asshole who doesn't like what someone says so you proceed
to call them a liar. Well but brain my son works for AOL in Oklahoma
City, he is a man of character something that you wouldn't know anything
about, he doesn't lie. I also lived in Oklahoma for 30 years, graduated
from Oklahoma University and I can tell you that kind of hate is quite
common there.
vite Francia
> "vite Francia" <vite_F...@lo-Spam-succhia-la-capra.com> wrote in
> news:10t45cc...@corp.supernews.com:
>
>>
>> "RobH" <R...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns95CDBEB...@24.93.43.121...
>>
>>> Yes, I noticed that. It pretty much reflects reality in this country.
>>> My son lives in and works in Oklahoma. He said many of his co-workers
>>> were saying who cares, it is just a bunch of muslims, the world is
>>> better off without them.
>>
>> Perhaps they were getting hate lessons from the European press. Ground
>> Zero was still smoldering when toilet paper like the Guardian said
>> that America "deserved" 9/11.
>>
>>> Hate and racism in America seems to be on the rise.
>>
>> Bullshit. One constant complaint is that Americans don't know anything
>> outside their border. If we're to believe this, then how the hell
>> would a bunch of rednecks in Oklahoma know that there are muslims in
>> Sri Lanka? This tragedy does, however, demonstrate the remarkable
>> insanity contained in the noggins of America-hating bigots.
>
> The only bullshit is the foul crap coming out of your mouth.
Let's count the expletives.
Me: "Bullshit"
You: "bullshit", "foul crap", "asshole", "but (sic) brain".
So far you're beating me in the "foul crap coming out the mouth" contest.
> You are
> just another asshole who doesn't like what someone says so you proceed
> to call them a liar. Well but brain my son works for AOL in Oklahoma
> City, he is a man of character something that you wouldn't know anything
> about, he doesn't lie. I also lived in Oklahoma for 30 years, graduated
> from Oklahoma University and I can tell you that kind of hate is quite
> common there.
You didn't answer my question, Mr. Potty Mouth.
maxh...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>With 60,000 people killed, anyone a little annoyed that the news has been
>incessantly talking about these three "celebrity" (and I use the term
>loosely) survivors?
>
>The other thing I find annoying is that there were 60,000+ killed but to
>bring it close to home, they keep showing some blond haired 3 year old kid
>survivor with scratches all over his face (when 99% of the people killed or
>surviving were brown). I usually don't care about these things, but it just
>kind of struck me as odd this time. Why should people care about this one
>kid? The media kind of shows this in a way to say "see- isn't it sad? This
>poor cute blonde kid." As if it wouldn't REALLY be sad unless there was a
>blonde kid in the picture.
For what it's worth, my local newspaper in Los Angeles had a picture
of a little dead brown boy with his grieving brown family surrounding
him. I found the picture completely offensive.
East of Spangliekeden
<maxh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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My local news has had a lot of focus on Tahitian mothers and children being
among the dead or lost (or having relatives who live locally), but when I've
turned on The Weather Channel this week and National news, it has focused on
the beautiful and rich *tourists* most of all, which has left me to wonder
what the heck is wrong with spending Christmas at HOME if you're rich and
live in the U.S. ?????
It must be too damned hard for them to get their Christmas trees up to the
top floor of their penthouses?????
(Nobody deserves what happened, however. Not even a greedy, rich American
tourist or Supermodel...)
JN
Tina
>Yes, I noticed that. It pretty much reflects reality in this country. My
>son lives in and works in Oklahoma. He said many of his co-workers were
>saying who cares, it is just a bunch of muslims, the world is better off
>without them. Hate and racism in America seems to be on the rise.
>
I'm not surprised considering he's in a RED state as well as being the middle
of the Bible Belt.
::::::Tina::::::
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I may disagree with what you say but I will defend, to the death, your right
to say it." - Voltaire
Tina
>> outside their border. If we're to believe this, then how the hell
>> would a bunch of rednecks in Oklahoma know that there are muslims in
>> Sri Lanka? This tragedy does, however, demonstrate the remarkable
>> insanity contained in the noggins of America-hating bigots.
>>
>>
>>
>
RobH wrote:
>The only bullshit is the foul crap coming out of your mouth. You are
>just another asshole who doesn't like what someone says so you proceed
>to call them a liar. Well but brain my son works for AOL in Oklahoma
>City, he is a man of character something that you wouldn't know anything
>about, he doesn't lie. I also lived in Oklahoma for 30 years, graduated
>from Oklahoma University and I can tell you that kind of hate is quite
>common there.
I believe you.
East of Spangliekeden
"Tina" <lisa...@aol.comspamsx> wrote in message
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I can tell you that kind of hate is quite
>>common there.
>
> I believe you.
>
>
> ::::::Tina::::::
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "I may disagree with what you say but I will defend, to the death, your
> right
> to say it." - Voltaire
>
Having known various people who've lived in Oklahoma for decades on end, I
think it depends on the person, obviously, but what I've noticed is that
some of them don't like to hear other's "chapters and tales of pain" and
their reasoning is because they've got a staunch survivor's mentality. They
have *HAD* to after what occurred so senselessly, so haphazardly and so
hatefully at the hands of Timothy McVeigh and Company.
That sometimes come across as hatred or a bold sense of impatience for the
sorrow and grief process of others, when in fact it's just a sense that to a
degree their sorrow has been overlooked in the wake of other people's
catastrophes and misfortunes. NONE of the people I know from down there in
OK, in other words, can stand "Poor Me" types of situations and don't have
much patience to share or *spread* the grief around, unfortunately.
While I don't think it's right to centralize (or perhaps personalize is a
better word?) the grief to just their own locale, I can relate to how
they're angry and are still dealing with their *own* adjustment to a
terrorizing situation that has been so very hard to register and eventually
learn to live down.
It's a shady line between what seems like ignorance and what is really a
case of "Hey, Asshole,What about me? I've had my town blown up and our
locals here were murdered, Hellllllloooo!", in other words.
Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between what's wickedly expressed
out of sheer ignorance and what's just a person who's angry because they
feel like *THEIR* catastrophe and grief has been lost or *MINIMIZED* in the
shuffle of other widespread, caustic, and senseless acts of Anti-American
evil.
Just a thought, of course...
JN
East of Spangliekeden
"Tina" <lisa...@aol.comspamsx> wrote in message
A lot of die hard Bible beaters who do not just dwell in the spirit, but
instead live, eat drink, breath and preach it 24/7 are the last people to
view foreign born others in a single-minded and *independently thinking* way
and they want for you to be tolerant or to be abhorrent of certain foreign
born peoples as a *group* instead.
(It's this odd form of mentally lazy, elementary minded heard mentality that
many North Americans subscribe to, sadly enough...a Group Think nightmare,
in other words that nobody would ever personally *aspire* to, yet we fall in
to it unknowingly as a pattern and refuse to reverse it often enough...)
This is totally sad, of course, because one group of Muslim worshiping
others could be ill of heart, towing the Jihad Line, and astoundingly
fundamentalist followers/"Sheeple" as opposed to being pro-active leaders
and another could be loving, intelligent and globally embracing people of
worth and fortitude.
I think a lot of the most hard core "Bible Beaters" in North America, for
lack of a better term, tend to view believers and praying followers from
*OTHER* far away lands (or "Third World" countries as we so snobbily prefer
to point, admonish and refer to them as) as a *GROUP* of people who are
either EVIL or GOOD instead of viewing them as capable of both sets of
EMOTIONS or at least of a mixture of the two.
The Bible Beatin' in America problem, in other words, to a large degree is
that it's *SAFER* to view things in terms of black or white and good and
evil, just like in the movies, than it is to regard religious minded OTHERS
*separately* as *PEOPLE* who EACH have their OWN mind and should be free of
clumped judgment.
Bible Beaters in North America are not likely to regard *groups* of Muslim
people like they'd regard specific ears of corn, where sometimes it's good,
flavorful, maturely grown, rich in nutrients, and beneficial to your diet
and other times it's spoiled, small, ill for preparation, bad to ingest and
seemingly poisoned/infested.
The more that we clump people in to herds (like cattle or buckets of
vegetables) as we look out in to the world, the more we're actually
*CHEATING OURSELVES* and being too lazy to dissect, discover, and examine
the validity of what's there. We've been conditioned to be lazy in that
regard and when we fight it there's always somebody who comes along and
calls it "anal" or says it's wasteful to "think too hard" or "too long"
about something instead of making a *SNAP RUSH TO JUDGMENT*.
It's our own fault, basically. When Bible Beaters in America get Pigeon
Holed, they're the first to rise up and complain, yet they are often the
first to regard *OTHER* human beings belonging to a different religious sect
as either "Good" or "Evil" instead of as being *capable* of both sets of
emotions and sometimes in a conflict over which side in their heart will win
out in the end.
JN
Tiaras and Feather Boas
>With 60,000 people killed, anyone a little annoyed that the news has been
>incessantly talking about these three "celebrity" (and I use the term
>loosely) survivors?
With this many victims it is impossible to put a face on the tragedy or even
really a series of faces. It is just too much. Using the celebrities involved
in this catastrophe is their attempt to do this.
It could be worse, you could be dealing your local news show that decided to
humanize the story by using a 5 minute segment on how a local organization of
gardeners might not be able to go to Thailand a month from now because of this.
It wouldn't have seemed so crass if it wasn't for the fact this is the story
they began the show on, and covered the actual tsunami and the amount of death
caused by it for only about 15 to maybe 30 seconds after it.
Bigolhomo
<storms...@NOSPAMMYhotmail.com> wrote:
>Thank you very much for that information.
>
>My dads friend who is Burmese has been trying to phone there, but I would
>imagine their infrastructure is smashed up like everyone elses is...
>
>It's very frustrating to not know anything.
>
>
Maybe they can get through, but don't want to call you since you're
such a dickhead.
--
Bigolhomo
Bigolhomo
>On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 00:16:55 GMT, "Verizon User" <anon...@anon.com>
>wrote:
>
>>With 60,000 people killed, anyone a little annoyed that the news has been
>>incessantly talking about these three "celebrity" (and I use the term
>>loosely) survivors?
>>
>>The other thing I find annoying is that there were 60,000+ killed but to
>>bring it close to home, they keep showing some blond haired 3 year old kid
>>survivor with scratches all over his face (when 99% of the people killed or
>>surviving were brown). I usually don't care about these things, but it just
>>kind of struck me as odd this time. Why should people care about this one
>>kid? The media kind of shows this in a way to say "see- isn't it sad? This
>>poor cute blonde kid." As if it wouldn't REALLY be sad unless there was a
>>blonde kid in the picture.
>
>For what it's worth, my local newspaper in Los Angeles had a picture
>of a little dead brown boy with his grieving brown family surrounding
>him. I found the picture completely offensive.
>
This should be good. What in the hell were you offended by?
--
Bigolhomo
East of Spangliekeden
"Bigolhomo" <br...@noparticulardomain.com> wrote in message
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They'd be calling the *DAD's friend* and would not even be phoning
Stormstruck, so your little ill fated attempt to rank on Stormstruck didn't
really fly this time around, sorry to say. Reading comprehension is a good
habit to get in to. Might want to try it on for size, Bigolhomo.
Juuuuust a thought for future reference, ya' know...
JN
Stormstruck
"Chris Pisarra" <Ch...@Pisarra.com> wrote in message
> Stormstruck burbled to the world:
>
>>>> Sadly Australia is the 51st state of the USA and we use their
>>>> newsfeeds and parrot their policies.
>
> Then made a fuss that the lack of news was related to the
> military government in Myanmar.
>
> See if you can stick to one argument at a time, okay bozo?
>
>>
>> Fuck off you yank loving troll.
>
> An example of the wisdom and wittiness of this clown. Of
> course I'm yank loving, I'm a yank.
>
> "Troll" hardly applies to someone who has been posting here
> for years--as opposed to a clown who just showed up to spew blatherskate
> and inanity, like you.
>
Try again, Troll.
Stormstruck
You know, it's bitchy queens like you that give the rest of the homosexual
population a really bad name.
I've crossed paths with you before, you still need to grow up.
John Savard
>Any thoughts?
Gore Vidal once made a very insightful comment about this.
Of course we care more about people who are closer to us. Whether that's
people we know personally, regardless of their race, religion, or
nationality, or people who we don't know, but who are similar to us in
those ways.
That may be regrettable, but it's natural, and it isn't the same as
bigotry.
John Savard
http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
CliffB
It's so impressive that you can turn this massive international
disaster into an opportunity for U.S. hate-bashing. Very resourceful of
you.
<Darn the Yanks and their insidious complicity with nature in this -
Ain't it just like them to ruin everything!>
tealou
> It's so impressive that you can turn this massive international
> disaster into an opportunity for U.S. hate-bashing. Very resourceful of
> you.
>
> <Darn the Yanks and their insidious complicity with nature in this -
> Ain't it just like them to ruin everything!>
>
I for one can't believe that with all the destruction, all people here
feel compelled to do is spew hatred at each other.
And here I was thinking, in my most naive of moments, that this might
actually bring people of the world together for a moment in their
collective grief.
This isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but can both sides just get
along? If there is one universal truth, it is the pain that the victims
of this are going through - mothers who have had to let go of their
babies, husbands letting go of their wives, wives letting go of
husbands. Its devastating and all anyone can do is turn it into a usenet
pissing contest.
Try to remind yourself of your humanity and try to contribute something
positive.
Téa (ever the optimist)
Otter
>With 60,000 people killed, anyone a little annoyed that the news has been
>incessantly talking about these three "celebrity" (and I use the term
>loosely) survivors?
Right or wrong I've always seen it as a way to bring the reality of
the event home to the greater population. And by home I don't mean
local, I mean as a mental state. Trying to make it less abstract.
One thing that *has* always bothered me is when the local news always
report the "local connection" to the event. Usually being someone who
went to school locally lost a distant cousin or something similarly
insignificant.
Incidently, has anyone heard how far inland the tsunami went? All of
the actual video I've seen has only shown the waves going maybe a
block or two inland. For that high of a death toll I would expect it
to extend pretty far inland. Or maybe the coast is more densely
populated than I think.
-Otter
Phoenix
jsa...@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid says...
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 00:16:55 GMT, "Verizon User" <anon...@anon.com>
> wrote, in part:
>
> >Any thoughts?
>
> Gore Vidal once made a very insightful comment about this.
>
> Of course we care more about people who are closer to us. Whether that's
> people we know personally, regardless of their race, religion, or
> nationality, or people who we don't know, but who are similar to us in
> those ways.
>
> That may be regrettable, but it's natural, and it isn't the same as
> bigotry.
Yet it becomes bigotry in the twinkling of an eye.
Care to quote the rest of Vidal's statement?
bel
>
> John Savard
> http://home.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/index.html
>
polyph...@hotmail.com
deserving of our sympathies because he is not in the majority affected
by the tsunami, who, as you see it, were brown haired, brown people.
Unlike you, my heart goes out to all those affected by this tragedy and
I see them as human beings deserving of our sympathy and support
regardless of their physical attributes.
Verizon User wrote:
> With 60,000 people killed, anyone a little annoyed that the news has
been
> incessantly talking about these three "celebrity" (and I use the
term
> loosely) survivors?
>
but to
> bring it close to home, they keep showing some blond haired 3 year
old kid
> survivor with scratches all over his face (when 99% of the people
killed or
> surviving were brown). I usually don't care about these things, but
it just
> kind of struck me as odd this time. Why should people care about
this one
> kid? The media kind of shows this in a way to say "see- isn't it
sad? This
> poor cute blonde kid." As if it wouldn't REALLY be sad unless there
was a
> blonde kid in the picture.
>
>
vite Francia
"Stormstruck" <storms...@NOSPAMMYhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:41d2...@quokka.wn.com.au...
That's all well and good, but it doesn't change the fact that you're a
hateful dickhead.
vite Francia
"Tina" <lisa...@aol.comspamsx> wrote in message
news:20041228225445...@mb-m16.aol.com...
>>Yes, I noticed that. It pretty much reflects reality in this country. My
>>son lives in and works in Oklahoma. He said many of his co-workers were
>>saying who cares, it is just a bunch of muslims, the world is better off
>>without them. Hate and racism in America seems to be on the rise.
>>
>
> I'm not surprised considering he's in a RED state as well as being the
> middle
> of the Bible Belt.
Seek help for your bigotry.
BLONDE Dotcom
a blonde kid in the picture.
The story ran precisely because he was a little blonde boy - ie, not a
brown local. It was feared his whole family had died and since he was
too young to talk, his distant relatives would never be found. NOT
because a blonde child would tug at more heartstrings.
The news stories of local children who had been separated from their
families do not need to air worldwide. I have no doubt that the local
agencies are working to reunite native children with their families.
Myszk
home in Michigan even though I was living in Tokyo and now I am in Shanghai.
Phuket, Thailand and the Malaysian Islands are tourist spots, much like
Florida is for people in the USA in the winter, for those of us here living in
this part of the world. If it had not been for my son visiting us from the USA
we probably one be one of the USA residents that would not have survived this
tsunami. Our son coming to visit us really probably saved us. It is very
difficult to get a multi entry visa into China so we opted to go to a Chinese
resort island instead.
Now we are worried about many of our friends who have family in India and Sri
Lanka and also those friends of ours from our expat communities. Myszka
Big J
@quokka.wn.com.au:
Chris is not a troll, but a regular contributor to our group for a long
time.
You are becoming a troll, however.
Big J
-----
Makan amess
>My local news has had a lot of focus on Tahitian mothers and children being
the tsunami reached the south pacific?
East of Spangliekeden
"Makan amess" <makan...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041229121139...@mb-m10.aol.com...
>
>
> the tsunami reached the south pacific?
>
Thai, not Tahitian. Typo.
They could sense it as far as Kenya and Somalia, however.
JN
East of Spangliekeden
"mæ³¥cæ³±" <ab...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:s0o4t095kcqffu7e1...@4ax.com...
> x-no-archive: yesOn Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:48:35 -0800, "East of
>
> Perhaps you mean Thai?
I meant THAI. I was tired and the wrong word came out. Oh, well.
JN
East of Spangliekeden
"Stormstruck" <storms...@NOSPAMMYhotmail.com> wrote in message
And WHY doesn't Chris P. space out his paragraphs properly? They're all over
the place. He can't be that ill equipped. It looks like he does it on
purpose, honestly.
JN
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
Feather Boas) wrote:
My local papers have done stories on the local residents who've been
killed or are still missing there, as well as friends and relatives
(usually immigrants from that region) who are anxiously waiting to
hear about loved ones. Maybe it's just me, but I find that more
compelling and humanizing than the latest press release from some
supermodel.
--
"Every one of the innocents who died on Sept. 11 was the most important person on earth to somebody.
Every death extinguished a world." -- President George W. Bush, 12/11/2001
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
Fortunately, he was reunited with his dad today. Unfortunately, his
mom is still among the missing.
KAR
note (with personal snippage in [...]) Imagine scouting a beach with
binoculars and seeing it disappear under a tsunami between you and the
beach:
Both of us thank you for your concern - we are OK.
On that day (Sunday AM) we had arranged to take a long tail boat ride to
investigate other beaches and do some snorkeling. We left about 1 hour
before it all started.
When we got to the first beach we were looking thru the binoculars to see if
the beach was interesting and it kept appearing and disappearing. Thinking
that was strange we were careful as we approached (the Thai driver of the
long tail boat) and when we saw the wave double back on us from the beach we
got the hell out of there fast. From there we watched it all from the safety
of outside the bay - it was better to be in the water far from land.
We stayed on the boat for about 4 hours and finally convinced the Thai guy
to drop us at a beach we knew and knew we could walk back to our hotel.
Getting some rides and walking - we got back to out hotel about 3 hours
later - it was destroyed - totally obliterated. In the wreck we found [one
of our] passport[s] and our [national] ID cards - this was a big help.
Our friends from the beach - we have been there 7-8 times - helped us find
the sister hotel of the place we stayed - they put us up for the night and
helped us get to the airport the next day. [...W]e were in Bangkok by the
Monday afternoon.
After that I checked into the hotel I always use in BKK and they knew me.
And NSC Thai helped alot from there - sending a driver and 30,000 bhat
Tuesday am - to help me get to the USA and Japan Embassy to arrange return
passports etc.
We are now all set and have decided to stay in bangkok one more day [...]
The Thai say - Good luck with you today - and we had luck with us that day.
[one of us] says God put us on that boat and we are thankful for that.
Thanks for your concern.
We will chat after we are back in Japan.
Kuisse0002
Its truely racist. In the Courier Mail (Queensland), on the first page, it
showed about 12 kids - blonde blue eyed kids av age 5yrs. and apparently they
were msising their families. Yes it is sad but what about those locals - those
thousands of locals who had their familes wiped out. Obviously they were not
good looking enough.or just not good enough to grace the pages. Or what about
the other asian tourists. from what I gatherfrom teh news coverage - no other
asian tourist were injured????
>The other thing I find annoying is that there were 60,000+ killed but to
>bring it close to home, they keep showing some blond haired 3 year old kid
>survivor with scratches all over his face (when 99% of the people killed or
>surviving were brown). I usually don't care about these things, but it just
>kind of struck me as odd this time. Why should people care about this one
>kid? The media kind of shows this in a way to say "see- isn't it sad? This
Big J
news:9hGAd.1758$Cc....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:
... awesome, fascinating, scary, overpowering.
Thanks for posting it.
Big J
-----
mslinda
> On 29 Dec 2004 04:57:08 GMT, tiaras...@aol.comCrowned (Tiaras and
> Feather Boas) wrote:
>
>
>>>From: "Verizon User" anon...@anon.com
>>
>>>With 60,000 people killed, anyone a little annoyed that the news has been
>>>incessantly talking about these three "celebrity" (and I use the term
>>>loosely) survivors?
>>
>>With this many victims it is impossible to put a face on the tragedy or even
>>really a series of faces. It is just too much. Using the celebrities involved
>>in this catastrophe is their attempt to do this.
>>
>>It could be worse, you could be dealing your local news show that decided to
>>humanize the story by using a 5 minute segment on how a local organization of
>>gardeners might not be able to go to Thailand a month from now because of this.
>>It wouldn't have seemed so crass if it wasn't for the fact this is the story
>>they began the show on, and covered the actual tsunami and the amount of death
>>caused by it for only about 15 to maybe 30 seconds after it.
>
>
> My local papers have done stories on the local residents who've been
> killed or are still missing there, as well as friends and relatives
> (usually immigrants from that region) who are anxiously waiting to
> hear about loved ones. Maybe it's just me, but I find that more
> compelling and humanizing than the latest press release from some
> supermodel.
>
>
I found the model's story interesting. It was the first story I heard
from a survivor. Clinging to a tree for eight hours when your pelvis is
broken and your boyfriend is missing must be unbelievably frightening.
Just because she's beautiful and rich doesn't mean she can't be hurt and
scared.
Linda C.
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
wrote:
True, the incessant coverage became tedious (at least to me) after a
while.
nimue
I too am astounded at the sniping that is going on about this poor woman.
She lost her boyfriend, she spent 8 terrifying, excruciatingly painful hours
clinging to a palm tree. She managed to hold on despite a broken pelvis and
internal injuries. The fear and pain and desperation and loneliness she
must have felt are beyond imagining. She deserves our sympathy. Her beauty
and wealth did not protect her -- she suffered and will suffer still more.
She, like all the victims, has all my sympathy. Poor little thing -- I
can't believe people are resenting a woman who has suffered the way she has.
>
> Linda C.
--
nimue
"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF." Joss Whedon
"Education is freedom. It is the answer."
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
wrote:
Oh, knock off the self-righteous bullshit for once, will you? Who here
has said that he or she resents what this woman endured?
Get over yourself already.
nimue
Uh, you did, you forgetful idiot. <<Maybe it's just me, but I find that
more
compelling and humanizing than the latest press release from some
supermodel.>> You may not have said you "resent what she endured," nor did
I, fwiw, accuse you of that. Re-read the sentence you wrote -- it's
idiotic. No, you and others don't resent her suffering, but you do resent
her. If you didn't, you wouldn't have written about her in such a cavalier
way.
>
> Get over yourself already.
Go fuck yourself.
CliffB
emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM at emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM wrote on
12/29/04 7:48 PM:
It's now All Tsunami All The Time.
Drudge pointed out on his radio show Sunday night that as the Tsunami was
actually happening the cable news networks were all on virtual auto-pilot
for the extended holiday and thus barely covered the breaking story.
Now is make-up time and spectacularity and repetitive image-fetish and
morbid agogging and melodramatic showboating by the various anchors.
mslinda
I'n not in NYC so all I saw was the story on the cover of the Daily News
yesterday.
Linda C.
vite Francia
"Kuisse0002" <kuiss...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041229173818...@mb-m26.aol.com...
> Agree totally.
>
> Its truely racist. In the Courier Mail (Queensland), on the first page, it
> showed about 12 kids - blonde blue eyed kids av age 5yrs. and apparently
> they
> were msising their families. Yes it is sad but what about those locals -
> those
> thousands of locals who had their familes wiped out. Obviously they were
> not
> good looking enough.or just not good enough to grace the pages. Or what
> about
> the other asian tourists. from what I gatherfrom teh news coverage - no
> other
> asian tourist were injured????
I don't think it's racist. In any disaster, fellow countrymen will receive
top billing. For example, when the Space Shuttle disintegrated last year, it
was Dr. Kalpana Chawla on the front page of the Indian newspapers. I
wouldn't call India racist because its local newspapers devoted most of
their coverage to Chawla, rather than the other astronauts who died.
The Legendary, Woodie69
They've only heard from four of them, her cousin not one of them. Are
they rich bastards? No, just a bunch of Swiss kids that saved their
money to go on their own.
~*~ Keeper of Monica Bellucci ~*~
f5
"The Legendary, Woodie69" <heide...@yahoo.de> wrote in message
news:1104376896.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> My wife's cousin and his 7 friends went to Phuket for Christmas
> break.
> They've only heard from four of them, her cousin not one of them.
> Are
> they rich bastards? No, just a bunch of Swiss kids that saved their
> money to go on their own.
That's horrible, Woodie! My heart goes out to your wife and her
family .... and you too, of course. I hope you hear from him soon.
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
wrote:
I neither said nor implied nor even felt any such thing, you
insufferable, sanctimonious, hectoring twit.
I don't resent a single thing about that woman and wish her well, but
I *am* sick and tired of reading every detail about her.
But I never expect someone of your low intellect to understand that.
With you as a teacher, it's no wonder our schools are so messed up.
>>
>> Get over yourself already.
>
>Go fuck yourself.
Take your know-it-all lectures and stuff it, you self-righteous bore.
East of Spangliekeden
<emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
>>>
>>> Get over yourself already.
>>
>>Go fuck yourself.
>
> Take your know-it-all lectures and stuff it, you self-righteous bore.
>
>
> --
> "Every one of the innocents who died on Sept. 11 was the most important
> person on earth to somebody.
> Every death extinguished a world." -- President George W. Bush, 12/11/2001
>
> www.hillary-watch.org
Yes, she's got a self righteous chip on her shoulder. People here and
elsewhere have told her as much. That's why they sent her packing at the
ASCF newsgroup and to this day, she *Still* blames it on all of them as if
she couldn't *possibly* be a preachy, do-gooder, claims to be fault free,
scolding whiner who brings this all on herself. She says they were just mean
and nasty and it's soooooo not her fault. She's got a defeatist attitude,
that one.
JN
nimue
>
> But I never expect someone of your low intellect to understand that.
> With you as a teacher, it's no wonder our schools are so messed up.
Oh, that was just so -- original. What a way to insult a teacher. You must
be so proud of yourself. Listen -- take a writing class, you loser. You
need one.
>
>>>
>>> Get over yourself already.
>>
>> Go fuck yourself.
>
> Take your know-it-all lectures and stuff it, you self-righteous bore.
Show a little sympathy for someone who has suffered, you heartless beast.
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
<spangl...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
><emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> Get over yourself already.
>>>
>>>Go fuck yourself.
>>
>> Take your know-it-all lectures and stuff it, you self-righteous bore.
>
>Yes, she's got a self righteous chip on her shoulder. People here and
>elsewhere have told her as much. That's why they sent her packing at the
>ASCF newsgroup and to this day, she *Still* blames it on all of them as if
>she couldn't *possibly* be a preachy, do-gooder, claims to be fault free,
>scolding whiner who brings this all on herself. She says they were just mean
>and nasty and it's soooooo not her fault. She's got a defeatist attitude,
>that one.
>
Gee, what a surprise... <G>
"Preachy do-gooder" -- you nailed it perfectly there.
CliffB
cup_o...@yahoo.com wrote on 12/29/04 10:47 PM:
> snip
>>
>> But I never expect someone of your low intellect to understand that.
>> With you as a teacher, it's no wonder our schools are so messed up.
>
> Oh, that was just so -- original. What a way to insult a teacher. You must
> be so proud of yourself. Listen -- take a writing class, you loser. You
> need one.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Get over yourself already.
>>>
>>> Go fuck yourself.
>>
>> Take your know-it-all lectures and stuff it, you self-righteous bore.
>
> Show a little sympathy for someone who has suffered, you heartless beast.
Ah yeas, the holiday spirit is alive and well here at AGC.......
nimue
Bah humbug. ;-)
East of Spangliekeden
<emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
news:cvu6t05uabqfclt2j...@4ax.com...
> Gee, what a surprise... <G>
> "Preachy do-gooder" -- you nailed it perfectly there.
>
>
> --
> "Every one of the innocents who died on Sept. 11 was the most important
> person on earth to somebody.
> Every death extinguished a world." -- President George W. Bush, 12/11/2001
>
> www.hillary-watch.org
It gets verrrrrrrry tiresome the way Nimue lectures everybody around here to
"have a heart" or to "be more open minded and accepting" and then she turns
around, wigs out and throws a hissy fit tantrum complete with heavy
peppering of the "F Bomb" shouted at a ground breaking pitch the very next
day.
The stiff set of Nimue The Carmelite Nun school teacher with a hand paddle
rules she applies to others seem to be continuously overlooked by herself.
She writes herself a "Get out of Jail Free Card" every damned time, in other
words. She's a hypocritical little Pollyanna Wuss. Forever the finger
pointer, yet never taking the blame. Gotta' love her for it. Ohhhhhhhyeah.
;^) <grin>
JN
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
<spangl...@netscape.net> wrote:
>It gets verrrrrrrry tiresome the way Nimue lectures everybody around here to
>"have a heart" or to "be more open minded and accepting" and then she turns
>around, wigs out and throws a hissy fit tantrum complete with heavy
>peppering of the "F Bomb" shouted at a ground breaking pitch the very next
>day.
>
A screeching, hectoring hypocrite.
>The stiff set of Nimue The Carmelite Nun school teacher with a hand paddle
>rules she applies to others seem to be continuously overlooked by herself.
>She writes herself a "Get out of Jail Free Card" every damned time, in other
>words. She's a hypocritical little Pollyanna Wuss. Forever the finger
>pointer, yet never taking the blame. Gotta' love her for it. Ohhhhhhhyeah.
Almost every person I've met who teaches in the NYC public schools is
mentally defective in some way.
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
wrote:
>snip
>>
>> But I never expect someone of your low intellect to understand that.
>> With you as a teacher, it's no wonder our schools are so messed up.
>
>Oh, that was just so -- original. What a way to insult a teacher.
Actually, dumbass, the insult was directed at you -- and you certainly
earned it, toots.
>You must be so proud of yourself.
Proud that I didn't graduate at the bottom of my class and have to be
a NYC public school teacher? You bet!
>Listen -- take a writing class, you loser. You
>need one.
Riiiight. As if I'd ever rely on your <snicker> judgment </snicker>!
Fortunately, the editors with whom I worked were pleased with my
writing.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Get over yourself already.
>>>
>>> Go fuck yourself.
>>
>> Take your know-it-all lectures and stuff it, you self-righteous bore.
>
>Show a little sympathy for someone who has suffered, you heartless beast.
I *have* empathized with people who have suffered -- and have done
more so for more people than you *ever* have, you idiotic freak.
Unlike you, I just don't feel the need to show off to and relentlessly
lecture the rest of Usenet about what a *wonderful* and *special*
person I am.
Now, tell us again how tolerant and brilliant and wonderful you are --
I'm going to bed soon and could use some help falling asleep.
Gyumaoh
>relatives and friends are OK and the news media caters to that need first.
Often times they will defer to English-speaking witnesses/survivors as well.
(Which are often white people.)
?SYNTAX ERROR
READY.
RebelRebel
How odd. The coverage on CNN began right away and continued throughout
Sunday. Maybe Drudge was referring to FAUX News.
CandyVivaldi
How ironic, coming from the woman who for years has NEVER shut up about
her incredibly self-centered and self-righteous maudlin dronings
concerning the WTC (where 3,000 died compared to the current tragedy of
114,000). Transparent hyprocrite.
Wild Monkshood
RebelRebel wrote:
Every news outlet I watch was running with the story right away. Obviously they
intensified after they got footage and more stories. Seems like a spurious claim
from Drudge to me........
Wild Monkshood
CandyVivaldi
You seem to have "defeatist" confused with "nice". She's certainly no
worse than you with your mean, obnoxious, and rather bizarre attitude.
You seem to take absolute joy in sanctimoniously criticizing others,
spending your time writing massively detailed posts pointing out the
flaws in complete strangers that *you* do not approve of. Have you no
life at all in that insecure, petty little world of yours?
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
<mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>East of Spangliekeden wrote:
>> <emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
>>
>>>>>Get over yourself already.
>>>>
>>>>Go fuck yourself.
>>>
>>>Take your know-it-all lectures and stuff it, you self-righteous bore.
>>
>>
>> Yes, she's got a self righteous chip on her shoulder. People here and
>> elsewhere have told her as much. That's why they sent her packing at the
>> ASCF newsgroup and to this day, she *Still* blames it on all of them as if
>> she couldn't *possibly* be a preachy, do-gooder, claims to be fault free,
>> scolding whiner who brings this all on herself. She says they were just mean
>> and nasty and it's soooooo not her fault. She's got a defeatist attitude,
>> that one.
>>
>>
>> JN
>>
>>
>
>You seem to have "defeatist" confused with "nice". She's certainly no
>worse than you with your mean, obnoxious, and rather bizarre attitude.
>You seem to take absolute joy in sanctimoniously criticizing others,
>spending your time writing massively detailed posts pointing out the
>flaws in complete strangers that *you* do not approve of. Have you no
>life at all in that insecure, petty little world of yours?
Quite chatty this morning, aren't you, Sara? Why the new nym?
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
Speaking of transparent hypocrites, why don't you have the balls to
post from your real email address, Sara? As usual, you are so eager to
sound profound and sophisticated, that you screw it up once again.
Did you really think that you could hide, like the coward that you
are? Why couldn't you use your regular email for this, you
hypocritical fraud?
Here's the header info from a recent post of yours:
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And the one from your cowardly nym:
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CandyVivaldi
to change screen names, right? They appear to change weekly at this
point. I've also never wiped out my posts from the archives because
because they have embarrassing comments in them, such as calling people
c*nt, twat, shithead, and many other vile names that your intolerance
causes you to blurt at those who disagree with you. But I noticed that
you have removed an incredible amount of your really vile comments (sort
of the Best of Leslie) as you are trying to "project a new image" and
show how you've grown. Forget it--you haven't change a bit. You are
bullying Nimue simply because she's disagreed with you in the past, not
because there is anything innappropriate about her feeling sympathy for
victims of a disaster on a scale of such incredible proportions. And you
are being an incredibly insensitive hypocrite about this disaster,
simply because you weren't on a Thai beach to pour out the emotional
stories of how it relates to "you, you, you".
CandyVivaldi
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:10:24 GMT, CandyVivaldi
> <mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Quite chatty this morning, aren't you, Sara? Why the new nym?
>
>
Bored with the old? Same reason you've change yours? Sorry, but I've
been so busy, and have so much catching up to do...though I notice
you've had a bit of time on your hands.
Bigolhomo
<mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
Girls, Girls, you're BOTH pretty. Can we get back to acting like
grownups please?
--
Bigolhomo
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
<mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
Wrong once again, Sara. I don't try to hide when I've changed names --
and have usually only changed names when I've changed ISPs or servers.
Unlike you, I don't create fake names in order to attack others. But
if I were to do so, I wouldn't be as inept at it as you are.
>They appear to change weekly at this point.
Just because you lie doesn't make it so, Sara.
>I've also never wiped out my posts from the archives because
>because they have embarrassing comments in them, such as calling people
>c*nt, twat, shithead, and many other vile names that your intolerance
>causes you to blurt at those who disagree with you. But I noticed that
>you have removed an incredible amount of your really vile comments (sort
>of the Best of Leslie) as you are trying to "project a new image" and
>show how you've grown.
Prove it, Sara. Prove that I've removed posts. Prove something for
once in your pathetic excuse of a life. You accused me of something
and you better prove it, you pathological liar.
>Forget it--you haven't change a bit.
Ha! Look who's talking!
>You are bullying Nimue simply because she's disagreed with you in the past, not
>because there is anything innappropriate about her feeling sympathy for
>victims of a disaster on a scale of such incredible proportions.
As usual, you are one of THE dumbest creatures ever foisted upon
Usenet. Of course, the truth is that nimue stuck her nose into this
and started attacking me for things I never said.
And in true form, you just make up things to suit your mentally ill
purposes. Since you claim that I had a problem with her expressing
sympathy for victims, PROVE IT. Show where I said that, Sara. Put up
or shut up, for once.
>And you
>are being an incredibly insensitive hypocrite about this disaster,
>simply because you weren't on a Thai beach to pour out the emotional
>stories of how it relates to "you, you, you".
I realize you love the word "hypocrite," but perhaps you should take
the time to learn what it means before throwing it around on a regular
basis.
And what makes me so darn "insensitive" -- because I'm not posting
about how upset I am nor about how much money I'm sending?
You can change your nym, Sara, but not the fact that you are a born
loser.
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
<mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:10:24 GMT, CandyVivaldi
>> <mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Quite chatty this morning, aren't you, Sara? Why the new nym?
>>
>>
>
>Bored with the old? Same reason you've change yours?
I don't change mine to try to hide so that I can attack people. Now,
what's your reason?
>Sorry, but I've
>been so busy, and have so much catching up to do...though I notice
>you've had a bit of time on your hands.
Taking up stalking again, Sara?
CandyVivaldi
And you know this because?
But
> if I were to do so, I wouldn't be as inept at it as you are.
Hmmmm--who was WWRD?
>
>
>>They appear to change weekly at this point.
>
>
> Just because you lie doesn't make it so, Sara.
>
>
>>I've also never wiped out my posts from the archives because
>>because they have embarrassing comments in them, such as calling people
>>c*nt, twat, shithead, and many other vile names that your intolerance
>>causes you to blurt at those who disagree with you. But I noticed that
>>you have removed an incredible amount of your really vile comments (sort
>>of the Best of Leslie) as you are trying to "project a new image" and
>>show how you've grown.
>
>
> Prove it, Sara. Prove that I've removed posts. Prove something for
> once in your pathetic excuse of a life. You accused me of something
> and you better prove it, you pathological liar.
Take a look at the "post" for WWRD:
WWRD Aug 26 2000, 12:00 am hide options
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Date: 2000/08/26
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:49:10 GMT, The Personification of Every
Negative Gay Stereotype <jjor...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>Well, one thing you can chalk up to the recent "Leslie, take credit
where credit is due"
>campaign: she's not throwing around that awful "C" word around so much
any more.
>Anonymity is such a haven for cowards.
Wrong cunt. Oops! There's that word you so often used against women
you disliked, but chastise others for using against your fellow liar!
Anonymity and privacy are my rights, and not yours to take away.
James Jorden is a liar, a coward, a hypocrite, a fraud and a truly
sorry excuse for a human being.
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>WWRD wrote:
>> On 26 Aug 2000 20:22:35 GMT, mlyo...@aol.comZAPTHIS (MLYoung) wrote:
>> >>ren't any.
>> >>Mags, Lezlie, the Webperv, and Bullethead are still embroiled in
the longest
>> >>and
>> >>most boring flame war in existence.
>> >Honey, we don't even come close to
>> >the David/TP stuff in which you're
>> >embroiled. It's actually been quiet
>> >re: Snarks for some time--you're just
>> >seeing the result of Gore's surge in the
>> >polls.
>> >--margaret
>> You really are an incorrigible pathological liar, aren't you, dear?
>> Once again, *you* started up with *me* and then tried to blame me for
>> responding to your personal attacks.
>> Remember, Hags, you are a known and proven liar.
>> --
>> http://no2hillary.tripod.com/ -- "Isn't It Time You Were
Disappointed By A Different Clinton?"
>> "If you're going to be a rapist, be pro-choice." -- Bill Bennett,
2/28/99
--
http://no2hillary.tripod.com/ -- "Isn't It Time You Were Disappointed By
A Different Clinton?"
"If you're going to be a rapist, be pro-choice." -- Bill Bennett, 2/28/99
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>Oooh, bait for David. Thanks
>JP.....here boy, here boy, come and get it. Aunty Mags has a bone for you.
Tsk, tsk, Jack--David's never made
any bones about it being an extensive
flame war.
--margaret
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>Well, one thing you can chalk up to the recent "Leslie Feffer, take credit
>where credit is due"
>campaign: she's not throwing around that awful "C" word around so much any
>more.
>Anonymity is such a haven for cowards.
Oh, now, you'll get her going again.
Amazing how you posted for months and months as WWRD and there are so
few posts to be found!
>
>
>>Forget it--you haven't change a bit.
>
>
> Ha! Look who's talking!
>
>
>>You are bullying Nimue simply because she's disagreed with you in the past, not
>>because there is anything innappropriate about her feeling sympathy for
>>victims of a disaster on a scale of such incredible proportions.
>
>
> As usual, you are one of THE dumbest creatures ever foisted upon
> Usenet. Of course, the truth is that nimue stuck her nose into this
> and started attacking me for things I never said.
>
> And in true form, you just make up things to suit your mentally ill
> purposes.
Projecting Leslie--your strong suit.
Since you claim that I had a problem with her expressing
> sympathy for victims, PROVE IT. Show where I said that, Sara. Put up
> or shut up, for once.
You called her sympathy self-righteous bullshit. (And I love how you use
that phrase Put up or Shut up for once! over and over on me, after I've
"put up" so very many times.
>
>
>>And you
>>are being an incredibly insensitive hypocrite about this disaster,
>>simply because you weren't on a Thai beach to pour out the emotional
>>stories of how it relates to "you, you, you".
>
>
> I realize you love the word "hypocrite," but perhaps you should take
> the time to learn what it means before throwing it around on a regular
> basis.
I know exactly what it means and you are a major hypocrite.
>
> And what makes me so darn "insensitive" -- because I'm not posting
> about how upset I am nor about how much money I'm sending?
In comparison to the reaction you have had and continue to have on and
on and on over WTC, compared to your reaction to an event a hundred
thousand times larger, it appears a tad insensitive.
>
> You can change your nym, Sara, but not the fact that you are a born
> loser.
I love the way you end your insulting posts with a dose of melodrama. I
know you are trying to sound wise and soulful, but honestly it comess
off pretty funny.
>
>
Bigolhomo
<emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:
>
>You can change your nym, Sara, but not the fact that you are a born
>loser.
And you're not? You both need to grow the fuck up. This whole
"conversation" is laughingly pathetic.
--
Bigolhomo
CandyVivaldi
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:01:05 GMT, CandyVivaldi
> <mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>
>
>>emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:10:24 GMT, CandyVivaldi
>>><mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Quite chatty this morning, aren't you, Sara? Why the new nym?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Bored with the old? Same reason you've change yours?
>
>
> I don't change mine to try to hide so that I can attack people.
Nor do I, but apparently you *do* read minds.
Now,
> what's your reason?
You just wipe out your archives. Hiding much?
>
>
>>Sorry, but I've
>>been so busy, and have so much catching up to do...though I notice
>>you've had a bit of time on your hands.
>
>
> Taking up stalking again, Sara?
LOL, yeah sure--who is spending her very valuable time researching
headers? All I did was skim the posts from the last week that appear on
one screen, and the names appear next to the the subjects (are you not
aware how newsreaders work?). Only *your* self-absorbed egocentric mind
could translate that into stalking.
I could call the fact that you originally followed me through the thread
stalking, also, but I'm sane.
>
>
Bigolhomo
<mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
You're both loonballs with this "neener neener neener" crap.
--
Bigolhomo
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
<mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:01:05 GMT, CandyVivaldi
>> <mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:10:24 GMT, CandyVivaldi
>>>><mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Quite chatty this morning, aren't you, Sara? Why the new nym?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Bored with the old? Same reason you've change yours?
>>
>>
>> I don't change mine to try to hide so that I can attack people.
>
>Nor do I, but apparently you *do* read minds.
>
Don't need to read minds -- especially empty, puny ones like yours --
to know that this "Candy Vivaldi" troll appeared out of nowhere to
attack me. It took less than a minute to look up that nym on Google
groups and confirm that it was never used before.
> Now,
>> what's your reason?
>
>You just wipe out your archives. Hiding much?
>
Why don't you ask the many other people here who also choose to not
archive their posts?
>>
>>
>>>Sorry, but I've
>>>been so busy, and have so much catching up to do...though I notice
>>>you've had a bit of time on your hands.
>>
>>
>> Taking up stalking again, Sara?
>
>LOL, yeah sure--who is spending her very valuable time researching
>headers?
LOL! You really *are* that inept, aren't you? It's not an act, I see.
Again, it took about a minute to compare the NNTP Posting Host # and
newsreader with one of your many other posts. It's not a difficult
thing for people who aren't dumb as a bag of rocks, which explains why
you believe it's a time-consuming effort.
>All I did was skim the posts from the last week that appear on
>one screen, and the names appear next to the the subjects (are you not
>aware how newsreaders work?). Only *your* self-absorbed egocentric mind
>could translate that into stalking.
>
Uh huh. Keep rationalizing your stalking behavior...
>I could call the fact that you originally followed me through the thread
>stalking, also, but I'm sane.
>
No, you're not sane, Sara.
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
<mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
Um...because you changed your name in order to attack me.
> But
>> if I were to do so, I wouldn't be as inept at it as you are.
>
>
>Hmmmm--who was WWRD?
>
I kept the same email address, Sara, and I never tried to pretend that
I was someone else.
>>
>>
>>>They appear to change weekly at this point.
>>
>>
>> Just because you lie doesn't make it so, Sara.
>>
>>
>>>I've also never wiped out my posts from the archives because
>>>because they have embarrassing comments in them, such as calling people
>>>c*nt, twat, shithead, and many other vile names that your intolerance
>>>causes you to blurt at those who disagree with you. But I noticed that
>>>you have removed an incredible amount of your really vile comments (sort
>>>of the Best of Leslie) as you are trying to "project a new image" and
>>>show how you've grown.
>>
>>
>> Prove it, Sara. Prove that I've removed posts. Prove something for
>> once in your pathetic excuse of a life. You accused me of something
>> and you better prove it, you pathological liar.
>
>
>Take a look at the "post" for WWRD:
Doesn't prove anything, Sara -- other than the fact that you're an
inept stalker.
>Amazing how you posted for months and months as WWRD and there are so
>few posts to be found!
I'm genuinely sorry that you are too stupid to figure out how to post
so that your messages are not archived. Big difference between using
the No-Archive function (something which many people here use, but I
don't see you bitching and crying about all of them using it) and
getting posts removed from the archive. But that's too complex for
something of your limited intellect to comprehend.
>>>Forget it--you haven't change a bit.
>>
>>
>> Ha! Look who's talking!
>>
>>
>>>You are bullying Nimue simply because she's disagreed with you in the past, not
>>>because there is anything innappropriate about her feeling sympathy for
>>>victims of a disaster on a scale of such incredible proportions.
>>
>>
>> As usual, you are one of THE dumbest creatures ever foisted upon
>> Usenet. Of course, the truth is that nimue stuck her nose into this
>> and started attacking me for things I never said.
>>
>> And in true form, you just make up things to suit your mentally ill
>> purposes.
>
>Projecting Leslie--your strong suit.
Do you *ever* have an original thought in that pea brain of yours,
Sara???
>>Since you claim that I had a problem with her expressing
>> sympathy for victims, PROVE IT. Show where I said that, Sara. Put up
>> or shut up, for once.
>
>You called her sympathy self-righteous bullshit. (And I love how you use
>that phrase Put up or Shut up for once! over and over on me, after I've
>"put up" so very many times.
Wrong as usual, dopey. I didn't call her sympathy "self-righteous
bullshit," but her hectoring of others sure is.
And you have NEVER proven any of the sicko lies you tell.
>>>And you
>>>are being an incredibly insensitive hypocrite about this disaster,
>>>simply because you weren't on a Thai beach to pour out the emotional
>>>stories of how it relates to "you, you, you".
>>
>>
>> I realize you love the word "hypocrite," but perhaps you should take
>> the time to learn what it means before throwing it around on a regular
>> basis.
>
>I know exactly what it means and you are a major hypocrite.
No, dummy, like most polysyllabic words, its meaning eludes you.
>>
>> And what makes me so darn "insensitive" -- because I'm not posting
>> about how upset I am nor about how much money I'm sending?
>
>In comparison to the reaction you have had and continue to have on and
>on and on over WTC, compared to your reaction to an event a hundred
>thousand times larger, it appears a tad insensitive.
>
I see that you are still jealous, Sara. And still stupid, as always.
What once again escapes your simpleminded grasp is that as someone who
not only survived the attack and lives in the immediate neighborhood,
I have facts and perspective that most people do not, whereas I do not
have any experience or knowledge of the tragic tsunami. Deal with it,
loon.
>>
>> You can change your nym, Sara, but not the fact that you are a born
>> loser.
>
>I love the way you end your insulting posts with a dose of melodrama. I
>know you are trying to sound wise and soulful, but honestly it comess
>off pretty funny.
Melodrama? Don't flatter yourself, Sara. I wouldn't waste any wisdom
on a stubborn dumbass like you.
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
And just what does that make *you* for continuing to read this thread?
<G>
CliffB
a
> >>while.
> > It's now All Tsunami All The Time.
> > Drudge pointed out on his radio show Sunday night that as the
Tsunami was
> > actually happening the cable news networks were all on virtual
auto-pilot
> > for the extended holiday and thus barely covered the breaking
story.
> > Now is make-up time and spectacularity and repetitive image-fetish
and
> > morbid agogging and melodramatic showboating by the various
anchors.
> How odd. The coverage on CNN began right away and continued
throughout
> Sunday. Maybe Drudge was referring to FAUX News.
Every news outlet I watch was running with the story right away.
Obviously they
intensified after they got footage and more stories. Seems like a
spurious claim
from Drudge to me........
Wild Monkshood
.
It was on Christmas day U.S> time, wasn't it? To clarify, I think he
was referring to the networks not having assets on the scene, nor ready
to go into action sufficiently. He said something about if they weren't
fully up to the task or reporting the historic, breaking event with the
urgency it deserved,, then they should have gone to Asian feeds.
Something like that (it dovetails with his , and not only his,
assertion that the news networks have cut back on their resources
internationally and are a shell of owhat they once were.) I wasn't
watching the early coverage so I don't know.
CandyVivaldi
> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:16:39 GMT, CandyVivaldi
> <mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>
>
>>emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Bored with the old? Same reason you've change yours?
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't change mine to try to hide so that I can attack people.
>>
>>Nor do I, but apparently you *do* read minds.
>>
>
>
> Don't need to read minds -- especially empty, puny ones like yours --
> to know that this "Candy Vivaldi" troll appeared out of nowhere to
> attack me. It took less than a minute to look up that nym on Google
> groups and confirm that it was never used before.
I'll use whatever damn name I feel like--netcop. And of course, it's
again all about you, you, you. You should seek help for those
narcissistic tendencies. Very unattractive.
>
>
>> Now,
>>
>>>what's your reason?
>>
>>You just wipe out your archives. Hiding much?
>>
>
>
> Why don't you ask the many other people here who also choose to not
> archive their posts?
Why? We were discussing *your* hypocritical preaching.
>
>
>>>
>>>>Sorry, but I've
>>>>been so busy, and have so much catching up to do...though I notice
>>>>you've had a bit of time on your hands.
>>>
>>>
>
> Uh huh. Keep rationalizing your stalking behavior...
You seem to NEED to believe someone is always focused on you. You've
accused others of stalking you. God help some poor schlub who happens to
be walking behind you in the street!
I've responded to you in this thread only. Considering *that* stalking
is a sign of mental instability.
CandyVivaldi
>
> Melodrama? Don't flatter yourself, Sara. I wouldn't waste any wisdom
> on a stubborn dumbass like you.
>
But, Leslie, you have none to waste. Too busy being a drama-queen netcop
and supercilious ass.
>
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
Still using words when you have no clue what they mean, Sara?
I really do pity you.
emerald...@gmail.comnospam
<mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:16:39 GMT, CandyVivaldi
>> <mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>emerald...@gmail.comNOSPAM wrote:
>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bored with the old? Same reason you've change yours?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I don't change mine to try to hide so that I can attack people.
>>>
>>>Nor do I, but apparently you *do* read minds.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Don't need to read minds -- especially empty, puny ones like yours --
>> to know that this "Candy Vivaldi" troll appeared out of nowhere to
>> attack me. It took less than a minute to look up that nym on Google
>> groups and confirm that it was never used before.
>
>I'll use whatever damn name I feel like--netcop. And of course, it's
>again all about you, you, you. You should seek help for those
>narcissistic tendencies. Very unattractive.
>
True to form, you keep throwing around words when you don't know what
they mean, Sara. A "netcop" is someone who goes around reporting
people to their ISPs for various infractions. Show that I've done
that, or shut your stupid mouth.
Quickly looking up trolls isn't out of the ordinary -- especially when
the troll in question exists only to attack one person. Each and every
post you've made with this dopey nym has been to me, and you have the
*nerve* to accuse *me* of narcissism, Stalkin' Sara?! You are
seriously mentally ill, in addition to being profoundly stupid.
>>
>>
>>> Now,
>>>
>>>>what's your reason?
>>>
>>>You just wipe out your archives. Hiding much?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Why don't you ask the many other people here who also choose to not
>> archive their posts?
>
>Why? We were discussing *your* hypocritical preaching.
>
No, you were obsessively stalking me, which led to your usual display
of your arrogant ignorance.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>>Sorry, but I've
>>>>>been so busy, and have so much catching up to do...though I notice
>>>>>you've had a bit of time on your hands.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Uh huh. Keep rationalizing your stalking behavior...
>
>You seem to NEED to believe someone is always focused on you. You've
>accused others of stalking you. God help some poor schlub who happens to
>be walking behind you in the street!
>
>I've responded to you in this thread only. Considering *that* stalking
>is a sign of mental instability.
>
You lying sack of shit. YOU are the one who admitted that you were
watching how much I was posting here recently. And YOU are the one who
created this fake screen name solely for the purpose of attacking me.
Oh, and who first posted to whom in this thread, you lying freak?
By the way, when are you going to start demanding that all the people
here who doesn't want their posts archived at Google explain to you
why they do it?
Keep choking on that hypocrisy, Stupid Sara!
CandyVivaldi
> On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 15:47:41 GMT, CandyVivaldi
> <mora...@hypocrites.com> wrote:
>
>>I'll use whatever damn name I feel like--netcop. And of course, it's
>>again all about you, you, you. You should seek help for those
>>narcissistic tendencies. Very unattractive.
>>
>
>
> True to form, you keep throwing around words when you don't know what
> they mean, Sara. A "netcop" is someone who goes around reporting
> people to their ISPs for various infractions. Show that I've done
> that, or shut your stupid mouth.
Oh, 'scuse me. You are the USENET police. Telling other people what to
do--well ok, maybe you're just incredibly bossy.
>
> Quickly looking up trolls isn't out of the ordinary -- especially when
> the troll in question exists only to attack one person.
I'm not a troll. I've been here since before you were WWRD. Back when
you were screaming c*nt at every person who crossed your sorry path.
Also calling everyone over 35 "old hags".
Each and every
> post you've made with this dopey nym has been to me, and you have the
> *nerve* to accuse *me* of narcissism, Stalkin' Sara?! You are
> seriously mentally ill, in addition to being profoundly stupid.
Geez, can't you come up with anything original at all? You seem only
capable of taking words other use and then repeating them back.
>
>
>>>
>>>>Now,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>what's your reason?
>>>>
>>>>You just wipe out your archives. Hiding much?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Why don't you ask the many other people here who also choose to not
>>>archive their posts?
>>
>>Why? We were discussing *your* hypocritical preaching.
>>
>
>
> No, you were obsessively stalking me, which led to your usual display
> of your arrogant ignorance.
For chrissake. You are always accusing others of stalking you. You seem
to have the word "respond" and "stalk" confused. Maybe a dictionary
would help?
>>
>
>
> You lying sack of shit. YOU are the one who admitted that you were
> watching how much I was posting here recently.
No, that was not what I said at all. I did not say "watching". That
makes you a "lying sack of shit", by your own logic. My, but you are
very dense, aren't you? I truly hate to disappoint you, but I responded
when I read your BULLYING post to Nimue. I hate bullies, as well as
hypocrites, and that motivated me to reply. I replied to another bully
also.
And YOU are the one who
> created this fake screen name solely for the purpose of attacking me.
> Oh, and who first posted to whom in this thread, you lying freak?
There you go with that self-centered Leslie--"me, me, me" thing again.
>
> By the way, when are you going to start demanding that all the people
> here who doesn't want their posts archived at Google explain to you
> why they do it?
When they become REALLY paranoid and accuse me of making up names solely
to attack them, and go one step further in their pathological
personality disorder and think I'm stalking them.
>
> Keep choking on that hypocrisy, Stupid Sara!
LOL. So, Neurotic Leslie, are you stalking me? This is about the fourth
time you've replied to me in this thread and to nobody else. By your
twisted logic--that is stalking. And watch out for that strangers
walking behind you on the sidewalk. They may be stalking you also.
>
>