Janet Reno was hung out to dry because she hung Bill Clinton out to dry when she was his AG
The Smiths
to a fault to Clinton and Bill wanted to show his approval.
Janet did not do a good job when she was AG of Florida and even less
of a good job when she was AG of the USA. What made her think she
could do a decent job as Gov of Florida. She kept talking about how
she wanted to clean up the "Jeb Bush" mess when it was really a mess
created and maintained by the liberal democrats of Florida. The
republican representation slowly increases in Florida and one day
sanity may rule there as it does in other states who have dropped the
democratic party way of exclusionism.
Ken
Balecox
created and maintained by the liberal democrats of Florida. <<<
Take your right wing nut crap elsewhere.
Matthew Patton
working as a federal prosecutor in Miami, the city with probably the
highest rate of drug crime in the country during the 1980's, poured much
of her offices time and resources into one of those hysteria-fed
mass-abuse cases at a day-care center, a case full of pushy therapists
guiding kids to accusations. The owners were convicted, but the
conviction was eventually tossed out. In the meantime, Robert Merkle,
up in Tampa, was getting THREE TIMES the number of drug convictions as
Reno. Your can certainly argue the merits of our War on Drugs, but the
role of Federal Prosecutors in this war was to get drug dealers
convicted and close down their operations. And Reno was simply not
pulling her weight in this regard. As for McBride, his persistence in
the face of Reno's alleged advantage was very smart; he knew that
secretly most of the party didn't want her as the nominee, and he kept
plugging away.
SweetLittleTroubleMaker
out to dry when she was his AG
From: bal...@aol.com (Balecox)
Date: Sat, Sep 21, 2002 7:48 AM
Message-id: <20020921104854...@mb-fo.aol.com>
>>> a mess
created and maintained by the liberal democrats of Florida. <<<
Take your right wing nut crap elsewhere.
>>
Why should he? Do liberals have an unofficial monopoly on this *public* forum?
My, that doesn't sound very *liberal*....
lib·er·al Pronunciation Key (lbr-l, lbrl)
adj
Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of
the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
Oh well.....
Phoenix
mpat...@cfl.rr.com says...
That's about right, from what I've read. Reno
neglected many of Miami's essential problems
to follow her day care abuse ghosts.
Too bad about Zoe Baird. She would have made
an excellent AG. But she was also known a
corporation buster, so do you the nanny stuff
was blown out of proportion?
bel
>
>
Putain d'Enculé
alt.gossip.celebrities back on Sat, 21 Sep 2002 17:54:03 GMT that ...
>That's about right, from what I've read. Reno
>neglected many of Miami's essential problems
>to follow her day care abuse ghosts.
>
>Too bad about Zoe Baird. She would have made
>an excellent AG. But she was also known a
>corporation buster, so do you the nanny stuff
>was blown out of proportion?
>
>bel
I have to agree with you on these points. It's equally troubling that
Clinton failed to follow decorum for his candidates early on. The
Democrats controlled Congress at the beginning of his term, and he
wouldn't have had these problems if he'd built better relations with
Congress early on.
Bill
Forward, as occasion offers. Never look round to see whether any shall note it…. Be satisfied with success in even the smallest matter, and think that even such a result is no trifle.
-Marcus Aurelius
GodGunsGuitarsTN
>>>> a mess
>created and maintained by the liberal democrats of Florida. <<<
>
>Take your right wing nut crap elsewhere.
>
Yeah, take that right wing stuff somewhere else. It's ok to write for right
wingers like Loretta Lynn who goes on the stump for the Bushes and is currently
in FL campaigning for Jebb but.... How do you like writing for a good
Republican stumper like Loretta P.B.? I loved her comments on Larry King about
old Clinton's behavior in office. The behavior that you found nothing wrong
with.
M.L.
> the face of Reno's alleged advantage was very smart; he knew that
> secretly most of the party didn't want her as the nominee, and he kept
> plugging away.
I still don't understand why Reno thought she deserved to run for ANY office
after what she allowed to happen to the country during her AG reign.
Apparently she has no sense of shame.
Chris Pisarra
"M.L." wrote
> Apparently she has no sense of shame.
She's a lawyer, after all. You have to have a shamectomy to
get into law school.
And **then** she's a politician. Is there really any
politician, left, right or middle, who could even find the word "shame"
in the dictionary?
Chris
TAD
have been like feeding branches into a wood chipper. I'm sure the GOP
wanted her to win the primary.
The Wall Street Journal recently identified Jeb as one of the best
three Governors in America. He has earned another term.
Sara
>I would have loved to have seen her go up against Jeb Bush. It would
>have been like feeding branches into a wood chipper. I'm sure the GOP
>wanted her to win the primary.
>
>
>
Well that's odd. The GOP started running negative ads about her *before*
the primary even took place.
Lunatech
"Sara" <safra...@rr.com> wrote in message news:3D8D070B...@rr.com...
Negative but still true.How do ya like them apples?
Sara
Why should they get all freaked out and start running negative ads
before they even know who the candidate is if they aren't overly
nervous? It made them look ridiculous--that's how I like them apples.
By the way--do live in Florida, or are you just guessing how people in
the state feel?
Don
wrote:
>That is why Clinton (and his support) went with McBride - he was loyal
>to a fault to Clinton and Bill wanted to show his approval.
>
>Janet did not do a good job when she was AG of Florida and even less
>of a good job when she was AG of the USA.
She has a record at Waco of twenty-five dead and one abducted...
Oops...I mean twenty-five CHILDREN dead and one abducted.
Now she wants to be governor of the state of Florida?
D*
"And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of
righteousness quietness and assurance for ever."
Isaiah 32:17
"Lord, You will establish peace for us, for You
have done all our works in us."
Isaiah 26:12
El Mcp
because they wanted Reno to win the Democratic primary but it
backfired on them.
El Mcp
wrote:
>On 21 Sep 2002 07:38:37 -0700, ken_and...@yahoo.com (The Smiths)
>wrote:
>
>>That is why Clinton (and his support) went with McBride - he was loyal
>>to a fault to Clinton and Bill wanted to show his approval.
>>
>>Janet did not do a good job when she was AG of Florida and even less
>>of a good job when she was AG of the USA.
>
>She has a record at Waco of twenty-five dead and one abducted...
>Oops...I mean twenty-five CHILDREN dead and one abducted.
>Now she wants to be governor of the state of Florida?
>
>D*
The adults inside the Waco compound had a suicide wish and they are to
blame for those deaths, not Reno.
Fineous
news:amiomt$6b1h2$1...@ID-19545.news.dfncis.de...
>
> I still don't understand why Reno thought she deserved to run for ANY
office
> after what she allowed to happen to the country during her AG reign.
> Apparently she has no sense of shame.
Democrat...shame?
ROFL
Sara
They may have been running them against McBride also, but I saw negative
ads for Reno and at the end it said very clearly Vote Jeb Bush for Governor.
Putain d'Enculé
back on Sun, 22 Sep 2002 03:21:04 GMT that ...
>Why should they get all freaked out and start running negative ads
>before they even know who the candidate is if they aren't overly
>nervous? It made them look ridiculous--that's how I like them apples.
> By the way--do live in Florida, or are you just guessing how people in
>the state feel?
Sara,
It's regrettably become a staple of politics. You run attack ads
against the opponent during the primary. Why? Because the more bitter
and divisive you can make the opponent's primary, the more divided the
opposing party is going into the election.
Withbotheyes
wised up to the Scum of the Earth Traitor Clinton and his band of Merry Men, (
Reno Included,)
Balecox
Hmmm...are you talking about Iran Contra?
The Smiths
They were minding their own business.
Ken
George Washington
"The Smiths" <ken_and...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:755eff52.02092...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > The adults inside the Waco compound had a suicide wish and they are to
> > blame for those deaths, not Reno.
>
> They were minding their own business.
So were most of the hundreds of people in Jonestown, but their leader
decided they had to die, so they were murdered. Koresh was no better than
Jim Jones, and regardless of how long they were in Waco, sooner or later
anyone who couldn't escape was going to be murdered by their "christ". He
brought about their death in a manner that left the results to be debated
for decades (as Americans have been doing). Too bad people can't learn from
these tragedies so they're never repeated again. (incidentally, speaking of
minding their own business, isn't that what those 165+ people, including
children and infants, were doing in that building in Oklahoma City?)
Sara
Agreed. Cults usually end up self distructing either through death by
leader or leader going to prison. Jonestown, Heavens Gate, Bhagwan
Shree Rajneesh. Why did Koresh need an arsenal if the cult was so peaceful?
John
John
Sara wrote:
Wow, have you given this information to the FBI ? You must be a real
cult expert. BTW, what do you give a shit if someone owns weapons? It's
OK, it's an American right. Maybe the people in Texas were Americans,
gun owners and peaceful. You wouldn't know, because you get all your
information from CNN.
Sara
I'm not a fan of CNN--I actually read newspapers rather than get my news
from Rush, as you do.
John
Sara wrote:
Believe nothing you hear, a fourth of what you read, and only half of
what you see. BTW, periodicals rarely rate much credit as resource
materials. Gun ownership is a constitutional right in the United States.
One or a hundred. Why do people own more than one one or two of
anything? In the US, we can own as much legal stuff as we want. Guns and
ammo are legal stuff.
Glek
From what I know the Koreshites had assault rifles, which I believe is not
legal stuff. If they are legal, when what did David Koresh and his followers
have to worry about? If owning the type of rifles Koresh had in his compound
are legal, then he and his followers could have surrendered to the FBI, hired
a good lawyer such as Jerry Spence, and gotten off easily. If the rifles were
legal, there is a good chance that the judge would have thrown out the
government's case, and Koresh and his followers could have gone on to sue the
government for millions. Even if the guns were not legal, why didn't they run
out of the compound when the fire started? Even if the FBI were shooting at
the entrances, as has been alleged, I would rather take a chance with a
bullet and the American justice system then a raging fire. Spending a few
years in the Federal pokey is preferable to being burned alive or choking on
poisonous gases. They didn't run out for the same reason that the followers
of John Applegate put on their black sneakers and laid down for the last
time, the same reason that the followers of Jim Jones drank that toxic Kool
Aid, the same reason that the adherents of the Order of the Solar Temple
committed mass suicide, the same reason that suicide bombers in Israel blow
themselves up and that Mohammed Atta and the other terrorists drove those
planes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon: they thought dying in this
manner would lead them to salvation. It is a salvation wish, not so much a
death wish, that leads people to do these things. I think Koresh was hoping
to provoke an attack from the government so that he and his followers could
die by fire, for many apocalyptic groups believe that just as the world died
the first time in the flood of Noah, it will be destroyed this time by fire.
I suspect he accumulated those weapons to draw the attention of the
government and that is why he fired on the ATF agents rather than surrender.
Something he read in the Bible convinced him that it was his destiny to die
by fire. As I said, that he accumulated those weapons to set the stage for
his sect's martyrdom is pure speculation on my part. We will probably never
know. I am positive he and his followers did want to martyr themselves, and
any attack by the FBI would have resulted in that conflagration. Had the FBI
simply waited them out, without provoking them, they may have surrendered
peacefully. Then the legality of their rifles and anything else would have
been established by the courts.