Camryn Manheim doesn't want her child labeled with "Gay Dad"
agcbli...@yahoo.com
OUT magazine narrowly avoided a smackdown from Hollywood heavyweight
Camryn Manheim's lawyers earlier this month by deleting photos of
Manheim's son, Milo Manheim, and dropping mentions that his
super-secret father/sperm donor is male model Jeffrey Brezovar.
Brezovar, who's on the cover of the November issue of Out hitting
shelves next week, had given an interview naming himself as Milo's
father, and there was a planned photo shoot of him and the 4-year-old
child.
At first Manheim, who starred in ABC's "The Practice," seemed fine with
everything - even though the magazine planned to name Brezovar as her
son's father.
Then, a few weeks ago, Web site gossip Billy Masters of filth2go.com
wrote that Milo's father was Brezovar, adding: "He and Camryn had been
friends for years when she asked him to be a sperm donor, and he spends
as much time as he can with his son.
"He thought it would be great to be photographed with his son, and La
Manheim agreed - and signed a release. After the shoot . . . she
demanded that no photos of her son be published," Masters wrote.
Another source e-mailed PAGE SIX: "Camryn initially signed off on the
photo shoot, but the closer it came to publication date . . . she
suddenly freaked out and had her attorneys contact Out threatening a
lawsuit if all references and pictures of Milo were not removed."
Brezovar remains on the cover. But although the interview with him says
that he provided the sperm for "a celebrity mom," it doesn't name
Manheim or Milo.
"Camryn is a huge supporter of the gay and lesbian community, but she
wanted to shield Milo from any unwanted public scrutiny of having a
'Gay Dad,' " said our source.
Manheim was also said to be concerned because of "Jeffrey's
relationship with Oprah Winfrey's [openly gay] interior designer Nate
Berkus [whose last boyfriend, Fernando Bengoechea, died in the tsunami
last year.] Camryn is worried that Jeffrey's higher public profile is
going to negatively impact Milo."
Manheim's rep didn't return calls or e-mails. Out declined comment,
although its Web site blurbs the next issue: "We photograph model and
designer Jeffrey Brezovar at his residence in Los Angeles, and he tells
us, among other things, about his life as a gay dad."
Buttercup
Richie
Buttercup wrote:
> Like it or not - He's labeled now, Cam.
===================================
well his dad is good looking
and his ma is rich
the kid has a 50-50 shot / \ \|*
Grace Noble
"oh gawwwd" <wellt...@justpeachy.poo> wrote in message
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> agcbli...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>Manheim was also said to be concerned because of "Jeffrey's
>>relationship with Oprah Winfrey's [openly gay] interior designer Nate
>>Berkus [whose last boyfriend, Fernando Bengoechea, died in the tsunami
>>last year.] Camryn is worried that Jeffrey's higher public profile is
>>going to negatively impact Milo."
>
> the horse, did he.
The press made such a big deal about Nate and Fernando as if they had been
"Life" partners when they had only known one another for four or five months
before Fernando was killed. I doubt they were planning to get married at
that point, so it's not surprising that Nate is moving along. Plus, he's
young, good-looking, and no doubt a horny little monkey. ;)
A Purpose Driven Ice
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> NY POST/PAGE SIX...
> OUT magazine narrowly avoided a smackdown from Hollywood heavyweight
> Camryn Manheim's lawyers earlier this month by deleting photos of
> Manheim's son, Milo Manheim, and dropping mentions that his
> super-secret father/sperm donor is male model Jeffrey Brezovar.
<SNIP>
> "Camryn is a huge supporter of the gay and lesbian community, but she
> wanted to shield Milo from any unwanted public scrutiny of having a
> 'Gay Dad,' " said our source.
>
> Manheim was also said to be concerned because of "Jeffrey's
> relationship with Oprah Winfrey's [openly gay] interior designer Nate
> Berkus [whose last boyfriend, Fernando Bengoechea, died in the tsunami
> last year.] Camryn is worried that Jeffrey's higher public profile is
> going to negatively impact Milo."
>
> Manheim's rep didn't return calls or e-mails. Out declined comment,
> although its Web site blurbs the next issue: "We photograph model and
> designer Jeffrey Brezovar at his residence in Los Angeles, and he tells
> us, among other things, about his life as a gay dad."
LOL! I love it. It's easy to be all tolerant, supportive and open-minded
about something when you're not the person having to risk anything. Funny
how people like Madonna and Manheim have changed their tune once they had
children of their own. Also curious....she worries about her son having a
"gay dad", but thought nothing of the label of "promiscuous slut" for making
a baby with a man she had no intention of marrying. Shame on both Jeff and
Camryn. He whored his sperm out to her (for how much reimbursement I
wonder), and she greedily took it when there were plenty of needy children
already in this world that could've used her help. She's a selfish b**** who
didn't care at all about her son's feelings and needs; she didn't care that
little boys need their dads. Having a child was about making her feel good
about herself, not the other way around. She used the gay community to make
a baby for her, and now she wants nothing to do with them, instead
exhibiting the same "homophobia" that she's constantly criticized others for
having over the years. Yes, it is that black and white.
-------------------------------------
Icebreaker
"Peg, if you want to try visit someplace new, why don't you try the
kitchen?"
JennyB
<snip>
> >>
> >> Well, good ole Nate certainly didn't waste any time getting back on
> >> the horse, did he.
> >
> >The press made such a big deal about Nate and Fernando as if they had been
> >"Life" partners when they had only known one another for four or five months
> >before Fernando was killed.
>
> Not the least of which was his "boss" Oprah. On that special she did,
> dripping with tears about Nate and his drowned boyfriend, it just went
> on and on and on, as if it were one of history's greatest love
> stories. Aided by Nate sitting there stoicly, of course, fighting
> back tears in an "I know I really look the part of the tragic little
> wife so I'll innocently milk it for all it's worth" sort of way.
>
> >I doubt they were planning to get married at
> >that point, so it's not surprising that Nate is moving along. Plus, he's
> >young, good-looking, and no doubt a horny little monkey. ;)
>
> Yep, horny little monkey he certainly is. When he does the Oprah
> segments he looks like he beats off backstage before and after taping.
>
> On that show they did about Kristey Alley's kitchen his pants were on
> so tight he had a wedgie up the front and the back. When he sat down
> he package looked ready to burst. You could make out every part. For
> those who are into that sort of thing, it looks like he's "uncut".
Doubtful. Nate's Jewish.
--Jen
S@R@H
Lefty
> LOL! I love it. It's easy to be all tolerant, supportive and open-minded
> about something when you're not the person having to risk anything. Funny
> how people like Madonna and Manheim have changed their tune once they had
> children of their own. Also curious....she worries about her son having a
> "gay dad", but thought nothing of the label of "promiscuous slut" for making
> a baby with a man she had no intention of marrying. Shame on both Jeff and
> Camryn. He whored his sperm out to her (for how much reimbursement I
> wonder), and she greedily took it when there were plenty of needy children
> already in this world that could've used her help. She's a selfish b**** who
> didn't care at all about her son's feelings and needs; she didn't care that
> little boys need their dads. Having a child was about making her feel good
> about herself, not the other way around. She used the gay community to make
> a baby for her, and now she wants nothing to do with them, instead
> exhibiting the same "homophobia" that she's constantly criticized others for
> having over the years. Yes, it is that black and white."
Once every so often, you make a ton of sense, ice.
A Purpose Driven Ice
news:1129678980.3...@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
And Jeff...the baby's biological father...what was he thinking? That she's
just going to let him be a part of the child's life whenever he wants to?
That was a terrible mistake he made. To know that you've given life to
another human being...that you've created life....the awe and wonder that
comes in knowing that a part of you is walking around living and
breathing....is not something that one can easily detach themselves from.
People underestimate that bond...that connection, and think they can turn it
on and off like a water faucet. But they can't, and they end up wanting to
be a part of the child's life, and in this case, it was clear from the
outset that Camryn had no intention of ever having a husband, boyfriend, or
butch lesbian lover help her raise the child. This was, from day one, a one
woman show, and now Jeff wants to be a part of the child's life, take some
responsibility, show some pride, and Camyrn is having none of it. Legally,
he's probably screwed. And she's screwing the child by not giving it the
benefit of a well-rounded parental unit. And Camryn of all people is showing
some extremely hypocritical cojones. I hope someone in the gay community
(like Elton or Melissa or Ellen) calls her out on this.
Taylor
oh gawwwd wrote:
> agcbli...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>>Manheim was also said to be concerned because of "Jeffrey's
>>relationship with Oprah Winfrey's [openly gay] interior designer Nate
>>Berkus [whose last boyfriend, Fernando Bengoechea, died in the tsunami
>>last year.] Camryn is worried that Jeffrey's higher public profile is
>>going to negatively impact Milo."
>
>
> Well, good ole Nate certainly didn't waste any time getting back on
> the horse, did he.
If he's dating Camryn Manheim, the word "horse" is entirely accurate.
Well, perhaps that's more of a Sarah Jessica Parker description. No, I
think he didn't waste time gettin back on the water buffalo.
Taylor
JennyB wrote:
Um... JewsAgainstCircumcision.com? ;-)
>
> --Jen
>
JennyB
Hey genius, Nate is dating Jeffrey, not Camryn.
--Jen
Taylor
JennyB wrote:
I know, but I can't resist a chance to dig at how ugly in personality
and bodily appearence Camryn is. Plus, I kinda skimmed through it. I
wondered why a homosexual would be dating a lesbian.
Wild Monkshood
Taylor wrote:
>
>
> JennyB wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey genius, Nate is dating Jeffrey, not Camryn.
>>
>> --Jen
>>
>
> I know, but I can't resist a chance to dig at how ugly in personality
> and bodily appearence Camryn is. Plus, I kinda skimmed through it. I
> wondered why a homosexual would be dating a lesbian.
Not sure how ya'll young'ns do it now, but back in the day, there were
door prizes involved......
Wild Monkshood
Pook
oh gawwwd wrote:
> >
> >The press made such a big deal about Nate and Fernando as if they had been
> >"Life" partners when they had only known one another for four or five months
> >before Fernando was killed.
>
> Not the least of which was his "boss" Oprah. On that special she did,
> dripping with tears about Nate and his drowned boyfriend, it just went
> on and on and on, as if it were one of history's greatest love
> stories. Aided by Nate sitting there stoicly, of course, fighting
> back tears in an "I know I really look the part of the tragic little
> wife so I'll innocently milk it for all it's worth" sort of way.
>
> >I doubt they were planning to get married at
> >that point, so it's not surprising that Nate is moving along. Plus, he's
> >young, good-looking, and no doubt a horny little monkey. ;)
I've had relationships that were only 3 months or 9.5 Weeks, that were
more life impacting than ones that had lasted a year or two. Its not
the amount of time together that makes it what it is...its the
circumstances. Some people fall in love very quickly. And even if Nate
wasn't madly in love with Fernando...do you think he would like to see
his best friend die in a tsunami and be like "Oh well". It was a tragic
event all around. He probably did love Fernando, certainly didn't want
to see him die.
Grace Noble
"Pook" <carrie...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1129703044.9...@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Geez, nobody said they thought Nate wanted to see him die. How the Hell do
you get from comments about Nate hooking up with some model to him
delighting in his former lover's death? I'm sure it was traumatic for him.
Being with anybody ~ friend, lover, stranger ~ when they die in such a
tragedy is overwhelming, but Nate has probably recuperated better than most,
certainly better than someone who would have lost "their soulmate" as it
were. If I lost my partner of 25 years I know that I would never recover yet
alone be shacked up with someone new less than a year later, but that's just
me.
memo...@hotmail.com
> >The press made such a big deal about Nate and Fernando as if they had been
> >"Life" partners when they had only known one another for four or five months
> >before Fernando was killed.
>
> dripping with tears about Nate and his drowned boyfriend, it just went
> on and on and on, as if it were one of history's greatest love
> stories. Aided by Nate sitting there stoicly, of course, fighting
> back tears in an "I know I really look the part of the tragic little
> wife so I'll innocently milk it for all it's worth" sort of way.
I thought it was so brilliant of Oprah to single-handedly transform the
tragic loss of Nate's partner into a massive media event by sending
her own personal team of search and rescue professionals to look for
him and then generating an enormous outcry of sympathy by featuring
Nate's loss on her show. It was really great to see Oprah use her
status as the Queen of all Media to normalize, legitimize and gain
sympathy for two gay men and their intimate relationship in a way that
is extremely rare in the mainstream media. And just think, two decades
ago both of these men would have been considered pariahs but thanks to
the tabloid talk show genre pioneered by Donahue and so brilliantly
popularized and revolutionized by Oprah, sexual nonconformists are
rapidly entering the mainstream with increasing acceptance.
She did the same thing when she legitimized Ellen's coming out show
when she agreed to play Ellen's therapist on TV which all the more
impressive for a black woman since homosexuality remains heavily
stigmatized in the black community. But Oprah's intelligent enough
to realize that gay exposure, visibility and acceptance is the civil
rights movement of today, and she's smart enough to do it in a very
subtle way and not be in your face like so many activist that hurt
their own cause.
A Purpose Driven Ice
news:1129820611.3...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I thought it was so brilliant of Oprah to single-handedly transform the
> tragic loss of Nate's partner into a massive media event by sending
> her own personal team of search and rescue professionals to look for
> him and then generating an enormous outcry of sympathy by featuring
> Nate's loss on her show. It was really great to see Oprah use her
> status as the Queen of all Media to normalize, legitimize and gain
> sympathy for two gay men and their intimate relationship
<SNIP>
> She did the same thing when she legitimized Ellen's coming out show
> when she agreed to play Ellen's therapist on TV which <SNIP> But Oprah's
> intelligent enough
> to realize that gay exposure, visibility and acceptance is the civil
> rights movement of today,
Well, if Oprah's so smart and savvy about legitimizing gay relationships,
why hasn't she come out and acknowledged that she and Gayle King are lovers,
and that Steadman has been a beard for 20+ years now?
memo...@hotmail.com
A Purpose Driven Ice wrote:
> news:1129820611.3...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I thought it was so brilliant of Oprah to single-handedly transform the
> > tragic loss of Nate's partner into a massive media event by sending
> > her own personal team of search and rescue professionals to look for
> > him and then generating an enormous outcry of sympathy by featuring
> > Nate's loss on her show. It was really great to see Oprah use her
> > status as the Queen of all Media to normalize, legitimize and gain
> > sympathy for two gay men and their intimate relationship
>
> <SNIP>
>
> > She did the same thing when she legitimized Ellen's coming out show
> > when she agreed to play Ellen's therapist on TV which <SNIP> But Oprah's
> > intelligent enough
> > to realize that gay exposure, visibility and acceptance is the civil
> > rights movement of today,
>
> Well, if Oprah's so smart and savvy about legitimizing gay relationships,
> why hasn't she come out and acknowledged that she and Gayle King are lovers,
> and that Steadman has been a beard for 20+ years now?
Two reasons:
1) It's probably not true. Oprah had a baby at 14 and was an extremely
promiscuous teenager and her stormy history with men has been well
documented and she was so passionate about one of them that she smoked
crack with him. He even tried to write a tell-all book about their
relationships. Lesbians generally don't get sexually passionate about
men.
2) Even if she were a lesbian, she can do far more good in the closet
because coming out would ailienate so many of her conservative fans,
and these are precisely the people she needs to reach if she wants to
have an impact. Ellen came out, but as result she can't do shows about
gays because she knows the second she tries that she would be attacked
for having a political agenda. If Oprah were gay and came out of the
closet, she too would be seen as having a political agneda and her
power to use her influence for social progress would be greatly
diminished.
darr...@aol.com
> > Doubtful. Nate's Jewish.>
> Um... JewsAgainstCircumcision.com? ;-)>
So says the Foreskinstein FAYGELEH who has a history of spreading
vicious anti-circ propaganda. Those who parrot the above link tend to
be anti-Semites (see anti-circers), anti-circers (see
anti-Semites!ehe), homosexual foreskin fetishists, deliverance mountain
folk, misandrist lesbians, and Europeans. Once again, what does the
above link prove, other than showing that a handful of kooks oppose a
simple, safe & beneficial procedure that goes far beyond religious
rite!? Secular or not, the overwhelmingly majority of Jews (2% of the
American population - wealthiest ethnic group in the US) will continue
to circumcise on the eighth day of life. One hundred years from now,
one thousand years from now! Be a FAYG, be a foreskin fetishist, gargle
with smegma for all I care (eh), but don't you dare impose your sexual
predilection onto those who choose to make a perfectly acceptable
parental decision. -D, NYC "Life insurance companies should class
wearers of a prepuce under the head of a hazardous risk." - Medical
writer, unknown.."To perfect the world (TIKUN OLAM) is in Jewish
thought - the obligation of every human being. Where better to begin by
fixing God's goof of foreskin?".."The ladies love a circumcision!" eh -
RABBI TUCKMAN (Robin Hood: Men In Tights).."Basically, he's
self-conscious about his dick, and he wants a circumcision." eh -
NIP/TUCK.."The Egg Cream is psychologically the opposite of
circumcision - it pleasurably reaffirms your Jewishness!" ehe - MEL
BROOKS (b. Kaminsky, umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer)
http://tinyurl.com/6dvwv (Most Common Medical procedures in the US -
Circumcision tops list)
http://tinyurl.com/bf8gs (Circumcision provides a 2-8 protective fold
against HIV - CORRECT LINK)
http://tinyurl.com/4dr94 (Neonatal Circumcision: A Current Appraisal -
Dr. Thomas E. Wiswell, FAAP)
http://tinyurl.com/4nedr (Benefits of circumcision - Prof. Brian Morris
- 30+ years of unbias research)
http://tinyurl.com/6d9e7 (Circumcision - a lifetime of medical
benefits: Women's Sexual Penile Preference, Sexual Activity, Psych
Effect)
http://tinyurl.com/3nk5u (Neonatal Circumcision Is Necessary - Dr.
Gerald Weiss)
http://tinyurl.com/3juvb (New York Jewish History)
http://tinyurl.com/3npsf (NYC - safest, largest city in the US)
http://tinyurl.com/3qkd3 (NYC Statistics & Fun Facts)
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Times Square)
http://tinyurl.com/3nyhl (America's 5 Most/Least Expensive Cities To
Live In: #1 -NYC - most expensive)
http://tinyurl.com/46f53 (NY, NY - Capital Of The World)
http://www.forbes.com (NY: 3 of Top 5 Most Expensive Homes in the US)
http://tinyurl.com/5zmb6 (Temple Emanu-El, NYC - World's Largest
Synagogue - Guinness World Record holder)
http://tinyurl.com/5gs58 (Brach's - World's Largest Kosher Supermarket,
NY)
http://tinyurl.com/5phxf (US Study - Jews Richer Because Of Religion)
http://tinyurl.com/5gd3p (A Study In Differences - Are Jews Smarter?)
http://tinyurl.com/38m6o (Jewish population of the US by State)
http://tinyurl.com/666cx (Jewish population of the World)
http://tinyurl.com/68ttu (Jewish Nobel Prizes)
http://tinyurl.com/6qb5e (Is It True - Do Jews Win More Nobel Prizes
than anyone else?)
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World)
http://tinyurl.com/6exvb (Phenomenon Of The Jews)
http://tinyurl.com/ihif (Jews, IQs & Nobel Laureates)
http://tinyurl.com/5tn7u (Do Jews Run Hollywood!? You Bet They do, and
what of it?)
R. Steve Walz
>
> So says the Foreskinstein FAYGELEH who has a history of spreading
> vicious anti-circ propaganda. Those who parrot the above link tend to
> be anti-Semites (see anti-circers), anti-circers (see
> anti-Semites!ehe), homosexual foreskin fetishists,
Oh give us a break!!! You're the bigot here, you're homophobic
fecal-fear ridden and fixated. Circumcision is a crime that will
soon be illegal to perform on children. It has nothing to do with
Judaism, that's Judaism's mythology that it does, there are already
lots of uncircumcised jews. Anti-Circumcisers are in NO FUCKING WAY
anti-Jewish. Judaism has changed before and it can change again.
Didn't used to be Reform jews, not too long ago.
Steve
Greg Pratt
<darr...@aol.com> wrote:
[garbage]
Oh wow, I had no idea this little troll was active outside of the nyc.*
newsgroups. Time for global *plonk*.
(Note appropriate follow-ups.)
--
Gregory Pratt g...@panix.com
East Rutherford, NJ, USA http://www.panix.com/~gp/
"The only good spammer is a dead spammer."
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darr...@aol.com
> In article <1129958437....@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> <darr...@aol.com> wrote:
> [garbage]
>
> Oh wow, I had no idea this little troll was active outside of the nyc.*
> newsgroups. Time for global *plonk*.
>
> (Note appropriate follow-ups.)
> East Rutherford, NJ, USA
Greg, if I give you my autograph, will you promise to go away?ehe If
anyone fits the truest definition of a troll, it is you! I do not
follow you to other newsgroups with the sole intention of disrupting
conversation, do I?! Let it be known that Greg is simply pissed (aka
geographically jealous) that he has to reside in a subservient
appendage of the greatest city in the world!ehehe Thus causing him to
KVETCH at anything New York - first capital of America from
1789-1790!ehe Hey, they don't call me the YID of TID for my health!
LOL! BTW, thanks for also confirming that you are uncircumcised and
possibly anti-Semitic! eh Greg, "don't let the plonk door hit you in
the TUSH on the way out - I hear it's a bitch for the touchy-feely!"
ehehe Truth before sensitivity shall set you free! Unfknblvbl! ehe -D,
NYC "New York, Los Angeles, oh how I yearn for you!" - CHUCK
BERRY.."Los Angeles is for those who sleep, Paris and London baby you
can keep, no other city will make me dance like New York" -
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from Manhattan - I can tell by her 'Man-ya-na" - but not Havana" - AL
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umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYers RODGERS & HART - one of the most covered
songs of NYC).."Flatbush boy cruisin' Sheepshead Bay..his boardwalk
mama just a sniff away..underground DMT..ridin' thunder train...The
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a hold of my hand and come with me...we'll go rockin' around in NYC" -
MARSHALL CRENSHAW.."All the folks in Manhattan are sad..because they
look at her and wish they had..the good old Brooklyn Bridge" - FRANK
SINATRA..."New York is the place where they say - hey babe, take a walk
on the wild side" - LOU REED (umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer - family
changed name from Rabinowitz).."I've seen the lights go out on Broadway
- I saw the Empire State laid low" - BILLY JOEL (umpteenth sweet,
Jewish NYer - one of the Top 100 selling artists of all-time).."New
York is the only real city-city" - TRUMAN CAPOTE.."You know, the more
they knock New York, the bigger it gets!" - WILL ROGERS.."I hope people
watch this movie (Sidewalks of New York) and still see New York as the
greatest city in the world. I certainly do!" - EDWARD BURNS,
filmmaker/actor, umpteenth celebrity NYer..."Go right, there's
Chinatown; go left, Little Italy. Uptown, Harlem. Midtown, Yorkville.
Brooklyn is Jews. Queens, Koreans. It's a cheap way to have relatives."
ehe - JOAN RIVERS (b. Molinsky, umpteenth sweet, Jewish NYer).."New
York is the greatest city in the world. The people, the clothes...did I
mention the clothes?' eh - VICTORIA GOTTI (Growing Up Gotti).."The
intellectual life is why I'm a New Yorker. It's why I stay here. I
spend my summers in Europe, and if they ask me if I'm an American, I
say, "No, I'm a New Yorker." I don't know about everyone else, but for
me that's a positive statement." - ALEXANDER ALLAND JR..."No other
American city is so intensely American as New York" - ANTHONY TROLLOPE,
North America.."Imagine a world without New York City. The terrorists
already have" - ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.."New York, you are an Egypt! But
an Egypt turned inside out. For she erected pyramids of slavery to
death, and you erect pyramids of democracy with the vertical organpipes
of your skyscrapers all meeting at the point of infinity of liberty!" -
SALVADOR DALI.."NYC is the only town where one's looks are drawn all
the time away from the ground into the sky." - FREYA STARRK, Dust in
the Lion's Paw.."New York City sits bold and beautiful, brash and
bounteous, a Big Apple, representing the best the country and people
have to offer. Never has there been a city like it, nor will there be
again...It's a city of achievers, often beset by adversity, but never
bested by circumstances." - JOHN CLEMENTIS, New York Facts.."New York
is simply a distillation of the United States, the most of everything,
the conclusive proof that there is an American civilization. New York
is casual, intellectual, subtle, effective, and devastatingly witty.
But her sophisticated appearance is the thinnest of veneers. Beneath it
there is power, virility, determination and sense of destiny." -
RAYMOND F. LOEWY, 1964.."The city of New York, the noblest of the
American symbols" - JAMES MORRIS
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http://tinyurl.com/3c6kk (Top 10 Places America Goes To Have Fun -
Times Square)
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Live In: #1 - NYC - most expensive)
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http://www.forbes.com (NY: 3 of Top 5 Most Expensive Homes in the US)
R. Steve Walz
>
> conversation, do I?! Let it be known that Greg is simply pissed (aka
> geographically jealous) that he has to reside in a subservient
> appendage of the greatest city in the world!ehehe Thus causing him to
> KVETCH at anything New York - first capital of America from
> 1789-1790!ehe Hey, they don't call me the YID of TID for my health!
> LOL! BTW, thanks for also confirming that you are uncircumcised and
> possibly anti-Semitic! eh Greg, "don't let the plonk door hit you in
Haul your jewish Nazi act outa here, ya shit.
You do Judaism a disservice!
Steve
darr...@aol.com
The "J" in "Jewish" must always be capitalized, ya insanely jealous
Gentile from hell! ehe Not doing so is considered an ethnic slur. Then
again, you're no stranger to slurring my people. If anyone wants to get
a little insight into the deranged mind of a foreskin-obsessed
anti-Semite, just read my classic exchanges with our lovely Steve. eh
-D, NYC "Envy of Jewish talents and brains has moved the Gentiles to
behave like wild beasts (see Steve!ehe) toward a people in some
respects their superior" - MARK TWAIN.."I am convinced that the
persecution of the Jew is not due in any large degree to religious
prejudice. No, the Jew is a money-getter; and in getting his money, he
is a very serious obstruction to less capable neighbors who are on the
same quest" - MARK TWAIN..."Western civilization is undeniably a
'Jewified' civilization, however offensive the word may be to our ears
because of the ugly use made of it by anti-Semites - anti-Semites
believed that Jews were everywhere, and in a sense they were almost
everywhere that counted in modern society." - ALBERT LINDEMANN in
Esau's Tears: Modern anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews.."Here is a
great body of our Jewish citizens from whom have sprung men of genius
in every walk of our varied life; men who have conceived of its ideals
with singular clearness; and led enterprises with sprit &
sagacity...They are not Jews in America, they are American citizens" -
WOODROW WILSON (28th US President, 1913-1921)
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > conversation, do I?! Let it be known that Greg is simply pissed (aka
> > > geographically jealous) that he has to reside in a subservient
> > > appendage of the greatest city in the world!ehehe Thus causing him to
> > > KVETCH at anything New York - first capital of America from
> > > 1789-1790!ehe Hey, they don't call me the YID of TID for my health!
> > > LOL! BTW, thanks for also confirming that you are uncircumcised and
> > > possibly anti-Semitic! eh Greg, "don't let the plonk door hit you in
> > ------------------
> > Haul your jewish Nazi act outa here, ya shit.
> > You do Judaism a disservice!
> > Steve
>
> The "J" in "Jewish" must always be capitalized,
Obviously not, since I can spell it "jewish", or again, "jewish",
see, it doesn't HAVE to be at ALL!
> ya insanely jealous
> Gentile from hell! ehe Not doing so is considered an ethnic slur. Then
> again, you're no stranger to slurring my people.
----------------------
They aren't "yours", they're their own.
> If anyone wants to get
> a little insight into the deranged mind of a foreskin-obsessed
> anti-Semite, just read my classic exchanges with our lovely Steve. eh
-----------------
Where? All you did below is quote Mark Twain.
> "Envy of Jewish talents and brains has moved the Gentiles to
> behave like wild beasts (see Steve!ehe) toward a people in some
> respects their superior" - MARK TWAIN..
-------------------
That's Mark Twain, not me.
"I am convinced that the
> persecution of the Jew is not due in any large degree to religious
> prejudice. No, the Jew is a money-getter; and in getting his money, he
> is a very serious obstruction to less capable neighbors who are on the
> same quest" - MARK TWAIN...
--------------------
Again, not me. Twain is certainly droll.
And the rest is also not me, what are you doing?
I would remind us all reegarding this poster, above, that Jews are no
less subject to mental disorders than anyone else.
Steve
darr...@aol.com
> > If anyone wants to get> > a little insight into the deranged mind of a foreskin-obsessed
> > anti-Semite, just read my classic exchanges with our lovely Steve. eh>
> Where? All you did below is quote Mark Twain.>>
Steve, your insane DRECK goes back a few years, remember!?ehehe Our
first interaction occurred in June of 2001! Do a search! Here's a few
excerpts from one of your more rational responses (LOL):
Steve Apr 20 2000 & Jun/Jul 2001
Newsgroups: alt.parenting.solutions, misc.kids.pregnancy,
alt.circumcision
From: Steve <rste...@armory.com> - Find messages by this author
Date: 2000/04/20
Subject: Re: Circ and Flirt
<<Why would that be?? That's stupid!! If it works it works!! It
doesn't! it's just more of your Jewish bullshit>><<No, "give him" is a
lie, an intentional misstatement!! You're finally showing your colors
as a Jewish crank!! Steve>>YOU need KILLING!Steve>>We'll kill everybody
like you someday. Steve>>You wanting to cut on infants is the only
deviant behavior, you shitty little fuck! Steve>>
hobn...@hotmail.com
gave me. My parents, neither of whom was jewish, had me mutilated at
birth. I will never enjoy the sensitivity that nature intended, as the
most sensitive portion of my penis constantly rubs, unnaturally,
against my underwear.
I wonder why my parents thought they had the right to do this to me.
The only answer I ever got was "Well, your father was circumcised,
so...". That little flimsy justification led to a decision that would
affect my sexual functioning for life.
Beneficial you say? Only to a parent who is too lazy to wash their
baby's penis.
But you can dismiss my opinions. After all, I'm just a FAYGELEH.
(There are evil words to describe people like you, too. I don't use
them, however, as I'm a better person than you.)
Throughout your post, you constantly attack homosexuals. I'd like to
remind you that MY people were murdered in the camps, too. Unlike the
Jews, however, we don't reap the huge benefits of sympathy and
tolerance that YOU do. Remember that as you spew Nazi-style hate.
By the way, I'm sure that certain middle-eastern cultures view FEMALE
circumcision as a simple, safe, and beneficial procedure which is their
right as a parent to decide for their children. You should embrace
these cultures, as you have many common beliefs. Like Nazis, you both
believe in the persecution of homosexuals. And you both also share a
sick, twisted, pathological desire to sexually mutilate babies.
darr...@aol.com
> I often wonder what lovemaking would be like with the penis that nature
> gave me. My parents, neither of whom was jewish, had me mutilated at
> birth. I will never enjoy the sensitivity that nature intended, as the
> most sensitive portion of my penis constantly rubs, unnaturally,
> against my underwear.
>
> I wonder why my parents thought they had the right to do this to me.
> The only answer I ever got was "Well, your father was circumcised,
> so...". That little flimsy justification led to a decision that would
> affect my sexual functioning for life.
>
> Beneficial you say? Only to a parent who is too lazy to wash their
> baby's penis.>
How many years do you suggest that mommy & daddy wash "Dirty Johnny's"
foreskinned SHMECKLE!? Until he reaches the supposed age of reason -
18? LOL! While penile hygiene is said to protect against the
complications against the uncircumcised state, there is actually no
study to show any benefit to penile hygiene, nor any practical way to
do such a study, considering the problem of documenting scrupulous
hygiene over long period of time. Soap (irritant) has been known to
exacerbate the existing foreskin condition, causing the bacteria
(smegma - pre-cancerous gunk) to multiply! When you have two moist
folds of skin that continually harbor bacteria, "cleanliness" is
nothing more than pure "fantasy." ie. Studies of middle class British
[97, 182] and Scandanavian [157] schoolboys concluded that penile
hygiene, as such, is at best poor and at worst non-existent.
Furthermore, Dr Terry Russell, an Australian medical practitioner and
circumcision expert states "What man after a night of passion is going
to perform penile hygiene before rolling over and snoring the night
away (with pathogenic organisms multiplying in the warm moist
environment under the prepuce)" [182]. The bacteria start multiplying
again immediately after washing and contribute, along with skin
secretions, to the whitish film, termed 'smegma', that is found under
the foreskin. Bacteria give off an offensive odour. Men differ in their
sensitivity to this smell and some shower several times a day as a
result. Some uncircumcised men, and/or their partners, find the stench
so unpleasant that the smell has caused these men to seek a
circumcision on this basis alone. Penile hygiene is often difficult to
achieve and attempting a very high degree of hygiene in uncircumcised
men can result in new dermatological problems. For mothers and fathers,
it is far easier to maintain cleanliness of their son's penis if it is
circumcised. If their son isn't the messages are confusing: should they
clean under the foreskin or leave it alone?.....
> But you can dismiss my opinions. After all, I'm just a FAYGELEH.
> (There are evil words to describe people like you, too. I don't use
> them, however, as I'm a better person than you.)>> Throughout your post, you constantly attack homosexuals. I'd like to> remind you that MY people were murdered in the camps, too. Unlike the> Jews, however, we don't reap the huge benefits of sympathy and> tolerance that YOU do. Remember that as you spew Nazi-style hate.>
> By the way, I'm sure that certain middle-eastern cultures view FEMALE> circumcision as a simple, safe, and beneficial procedure which is their> right as a parent to decide for their children. You should embrace> these cultures, as you have many common beliefs. Like Nazis, you both> believe in the persecution of homosexuals. And you both also share a> sick, twisted, pathological desire to sexually mutilate babies.>>
I am not a FAYGOPHOBE (find me one post where I attack FAYGELEHS!), but
it does become troubling when the umpteenth anti-circer is found to be
gay. I don't care what your sexual orientation, fetish, or circumcision
status is. As long as it does not infringe on the rights of others,
have as much fun as you want!! Unfortunately for you and your deranged
ilk, such is not the case! Your sole purpose is to sexualize and
facilitate the upkeep of foreskin, while using children's rights as a
pretense! As for sympathy and tolerance!? Give me a break! Unlike other
persecuted minorities, Jews (1/4 of 1% of the world's population) never
cried in their beer! That's why they are The Chosen People! They stand
as a living testament to perseverance: eighteen-hundred years without a
homeland, persecuted for thousands of years, and having lost 6 milllion
in the Holocaust. Jews are the oldest of any people on earth, still
around with their national identity and cultural heriutage intact. Jews
are universally acknowledged as the source of many of the major
religions of the world. Jews have exerted an influence on world
civilization more profound and lasting than any other ancient culture.
This is what makes Hebrews separate and unique from other peoples. In
the end, invoking Godwin's Law is the poor man's game! And it becomes
twice as blasphemous when you label Jews as such! If Jews suffered from
the same persecution complex as the homosexual community (ie we want
special rules and laws! LOL), Jews would not be the most successful
peoples on the planet! -D, NYC "One of the great mysteries that has
always puzzled me is how Jews, who account for such a tiny fraction of
the world's population, have been able to achieve so much and excel in
so many different fields - science, music, medicine, literature, arts,
business and more. If you listed the most influential people of the
last hundred years, three at the top of the list would be Einstein,
Freud and Marx; all were Jews. Many more belong on the list, yet Jews
comprise at most less than 3 percent of the United States population.
They are an amazing people. Imagine the persecution they endured over
the centuries: pogroms, temple burnings, Cossack raids, uprootings of
families, their dispersal to the winds and the Holocaust. After the
Diaspora, they could not own land or worship in much of the world; they
were prohibited from voting and were told where to live. Yet their
children survived and Jews became by far the most accomplished people
per capita that the world has ever produced." -MARLON BRANDO (excerpt
from "SONGS MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME")..Jews are unique in that for
eighteen-hundred years they have had no country...and have, whenever
there was any pretense of equality of opportunity for them, forged
their way ahead into positions of prominence, influence and power in
business, professions, in philosophy, in art, in literature, and in
government. The harshest persecution and injustice merely strengthen
the peculiarity of the Jew in the adherence to his ancient customs.
Give him the sunlight of freedom and the balmy encouragement of
equality of opportunity and he assimilates himself to his environment
with all the quickness of perception, all the energy, all the
enterprise, all the persistence with which he is so remarkably endowed"
- WILLIAM HOWARD TAFT (27th US President, 1909-1913)
hobn...@hotmail.com
darr...@aol.com wrote:
> hobn...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > I often wonder what lovemaking would be like with the penis that nature
> > gave me. My parents, neither of whom was jewish, had me mutilated at
> > birth. I will never enjoy the sensitivity that nature intended, as the
> > most sensitive portion of my penis constantly rubs, unnaturally,
> > against my underwear.
> >
> > I wonder why my parents thought they had the right to do this to me.
> > The only answer I ever got was "Well, your father was circumcised,
> > so...". That little flimsy justification led to a decision that would
> > affect my sexual functioning for life.
> >
> > Beneficial you say? Only to a parent who is too lazy to wash their
> > baby's penis.>
>
> How many years do you suggest that mommy & daddy wash "Dirty Johnny's"
> foreskinned SHMECKLE!? Until he reaches the supposed age of reason -
> 18? LOL!
??? How about until the child is old enough to bathe himself and
maintain his own hygiene? If a parent can't get over their
squeamishness at washing their baby's penis, maybe they should have
someone MATURE do it. Hacking off parts just so a parent can avoid
touching "'Dirty Johnny's' foreskinned SHMECKLE" isn't just lazy, it's
SICK!
Nothing in the wordy mess above compels me to believe that a parent can
justify the act of sexually mutilating a baby.
> > But you can dismiss my opinions. After all, I'm just a FAYGELEH.
> > (There are evil words to describe people like you, too. I don't use
> > them, however, as I'm a better person than you.)>> Throughout your post, you constantly attack homosexuals. I'd like to> remind you that MY people were murdered in the camps, too. Unlike the> Jews, however, we don't reap the huge benefits of sympathy and> tolerance that YOU do. Remember that as you spew Nazi-style hate.>
> > By the way, I'm sure that certain middle-eastern cultures view FEMALE> circumcision as a simple, safe, and beneficial procedure which is their> right as a parent to decide for their children. You should embrace> these cultures, as you have many common beliefs. Like Nazis, you both> believe in the persecution of homosexuals. And you both also share a> sick, twisted, pathological desire to sexually mutilate babies.>>
>
> I am not a FAYGOPHOBE (find me one post where I attack FAYGELEHS!), but
> it does become troubling when the umpteenth anti-circer is found to be
> gay. I don't care what your sexual orientation, fetish, or circumcision
> status is. As long as it does not infringe on the rights of others,
> have as much fun as you want!! Unfortunately for you and your deranged
> ilk, such is not the case! Your sole purpose is to sexualize and
> facilitate the upkeep of foreskin, while using children's rights as a
> pretense!
BULL! You have NO right to mutilate ANY part of a child, sexual or
not. Questioning my motivations doesn't change the argument, try as
you might. I'm thunderstruck at your "defense". You want the right
for every parent to be able to slice into their baby's genitalia, for
the sake of convenience and tradition, and I'M the deranged one?!?
I notice you didn't touch my argument about female circumcision. Am I
sexualizing the clitoris by wanting baby girls to be able to keep
theirs? Am I using children's rights as a pretense to infringe upon
the rights of parents to obey the traditions of their people? Seeing
as I have no interest in girls, it will be hard for you to think up an
argument against me that implies I have a deranged sexualized interest
in clitori, as you did above.
I could spend hours babbling, as you have, about the many
accomplishments of gay men and women throughout the ages. I could
write for days about all the terrible things we've had to endure. I
could rage against the rights I don't have, and how people use the term
"Special Rights" in a deceitful attempt to keep them from me. Unlike
you, however, I have no need to "cry in my beer" and proclaim my people
to be some sort of...shall we say....master race.
I would however like to point out something you wrote above. "If Jews
suffered from the same persecution complex as the homosexual
community...".
You have GOT to be kidding me! You can throw every BS "Jews deserve
tolerance, but homosexuals don't" argument against me that you want,
but don't lose your grip on reality to the point that you think
homosexuals have a persecution complex, but Jews don't. I hear the
phrase "anti-Semitism" AT LEAST as often as the word homophobia.
This has officially become pointless. I give to you the last word,
which I hope will not fill the internet to capacity.
Thanks for letting me know that the Hebrew word "FAYG", which is one
letter away from "FAG", is actually a SUPREME JEWISH COMPLEMENT. If
you didn't point this out, I might've mistakenly thought you were using
Hebrew to try to get away with using hate-speech.
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
> > > If anyone wants to get> > a little insight into the deranged mind of a foreskin-obsessed
> > > anti-Semite, just read my classic exchanges with our lovely Steve. eh>
>
> > Where? All you did below is quote Mark Twain.>>
>
> Steve, your insane DRECK goes back a few years, remember!?
What the fuck does THAT have to do with Mark Twain????
You over-estimate your memorability. And you're the clown with
the insane dreck, promoting cutting on babies in a fixated manner.
> ehehe Our
> first interaction occurred in June of 2001! Do a search! Here's a few
> excerpts from one of your more rational responses (LOL):
> Steve Apr 20 2000 & Jun/Jul 2001
> Newsgroups: alt.parenting.solutions, misc.kids.pregnancy,
> alt.circumcision
> From: Steve <rste...@armory.com> - Find messages by this author
> Date: 2000/04/20
> Subject: Re: Circ and Flirt
> <<Why would that be?? That's stupid!! If it works it works!! It
> doesn't! it's just more of your Jewish bullshit>><<No, "give him" is a
> lie, an intentional misstatement!! You're finally showing your colors
> as a Jewish crank!! Steve>>YOU need KILLING!Steve>>We'll kill everybody
> like you someday. Steve>>You wanting to cut on infants is the only
> deviant behavior, you shitty little fuck! Steve>>
--------------------------------
Absolutely correct today as then, we all know it, now what the fuck's
the matter with YOU??
Steve
Taylor
R. Steve Walz wrote:
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>R. Steve Walz wrote:
>>
>>>darr...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>R. Steve Walz wrote:
>>
>>>>If anyone wants to get> > a little insight into the deranged mind of a foreskin-obsessed
>>>>anti-Semite, just read my classic exchanges with our lovely Steve. eh>
>>
>>>Where? All you did below is quote Mark Twain.>>
>>
>>Steve, your insane DRECK goes back a few years, remember!?
>
> ---------------
> What the fuck does THAT have to do with Mark Twain????
>
> You over-estimate your memorability. And you're the clown with
> the insane dreck, promoting cutting on babies in a fixated manner.
>
Wasn't Mark Twain intact (uncircumcised/uncut)?
>
>
>>ehehe Our
>>first interaction occurred in June of 2001! Do a search! Here's a few
>>excerpts from one of your more rational responses (LOL):
>>Steve Apr 20 2000 & Jun/Jul 2001
>>Newsgroups: alt.parenting.solutions, misc.kids.pregnancy,
>>alt.circumcision
>>From: Steve <rste...@armory.com> - Find messages by this author
>>Date: 2000/04/20
>>Subject: Re: Circ and Flirt
>><<Why would that be?? That's stupid!! If it works it works!! It
>>doesn't! it's just more of your Jewish bullshit>><<No, "give him" is a
>>lie, an intentional misstatement!! You're finally showing your colors
>>as a Jewish crank!! Steve>>YOU need KILLING!Steve>>We'll kill everybody
>>like you someday. Steve>>You wanting to cut on infants is the only
>>deviant behavior, you shitty little fuck! Steve>>
>
> --------------------------------
> Absolutely correct today as then, we all know it, now what the fuck's
> the matter with YOU??
> Steve
Tom Sawyer fan all the way!
R. Steve Walz
>
> hobn...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > I often wonder what lovemaking would be like with the penis that nature
> > gave me. My parents, neither of whom was jewish, had me mutilated at
> > birth. I will never enjoy the sensitivity that nature intended, as the
> > most sensitive portion of my penis constantly rubs, unnaturally,
> > against my underwear.
> >
> > I wonder why my parents thought they had the right to do this to me.
> > The only answer I ever got was "Well, your father was circumcised,
> > so...". That little flimsy justification led to a decision that would
> > affect my sexual functioning for life.
> >
> > Beneficial you say? Only to a parent who is too lazy to wash their
> > baby's penis.>
>
> How many years do you suggest that mommy & daddy wash "Dirty Johnny's"
> foreskinned SHMECKLE!?
Until he can do it himself, just like every other part of him, you
stupid sick FREAK!! There's nothing especially hideous about foreskins,
unless you have your VERY carefully off-bred phobia of the foreskin
and have that promoted for a few thousand years because of your little
isolate tribe's superstition about one asshole's practice of cutting
on his kids to mark them so other tribes won't want to steal them.
The foreskin is as clean as the rest of our bottom end, hell we even
lick each other there, when we're properly horny, and we think little
of it. The foreskin is a fun part for women to play with with their
tongues, every woman *I* have known, Jewesses included, LIKED sucking
on it and rolling it around with their tongue, if it is kept clean,
just like the rest of their own folds and crevices, and NOTHING BAD
HAPPENS! FYI smegma accumulates under the prepuce of the clitoris as
well, IF it is not washed.
> Until he reaches the supposed age of reason - 18? LOL!
------------------
The "Age of Reason", which, it can be argued, shit like you haven't
YET reached, is classically regarded as age 8 for children, you
ignorant dunce. And no one needs any such cleaning by others after
he is 7 or 8, however nice cleaning each other is for humans,
the LACK of which has undoubtedly damaged YOU!!
> While penile hygiene is said to protect against the
> complications against the uncircumcised state, there is actually no
> study to show any benefit to penile hygiene, nor any practical way to
> do such a study, considering the problem of documenting scrupulous
> hygiene over long period of time.
---------------------
Absolute ridiculous nonsense, since the whole world but for your
ignorant superstitious tribe and their sand-shit neighbors and a
minority of Europeans, go about uncircumcised and always have!!!
> Soap (irritant) has been known to
> exacerbate the existing foreskin condition, causing the bacteria
> (smegma - pre-cancerous gunk) to multiply!
----------------------
More lies and bullshit.
> When you have two moist
> folds of skin that continually harbor bacteria, "cleanliness" is
> nothing more than pure "fantasy."
---------------------------
No "lack of bacteria" is possible, but SUCH IS NOT EVEN NEEDED!
Just the pathogenic disease-causing bacteria being held at bay is
entirely sufficient, and that is a simple end achieved by washing.
> ie. Studies of middle class British
> [97, 182] and Scandanavian [157] schoolboys concluded that penile
> hygiene, as such, is at best poor and at worst non-existent.
------------------------
Those cultures had just emerged or had yet to emerge from prudery.
With no one at that time to teach boys anything but "don't touch
your willy", how could you expect them to learn? AND YET, VERY
SELDOM had they ANY disease incidence, which is as one would expect
from an EVOLVED FEATURE OF ANATOMY!!!
> Furthermore, Dr Terry Russell, an Australian medical practitioner and
> circumcision expert states "What man after a night of passion is going
> to perform penile hygiene before rolling over and snoring the night
> away (with pathogenic organisms multiplying in the warm moist
> environment under the prepuce)" [182].
-----------------------------
This is the "body as sewer" analogy so beloved by the religiously
insane, and which ignores antibiodies and the immune system, as well
as evolutionary anatomical principles.
> The bacteria start multiplying
> again immediately after washing and contribute, along with skin
> secretions, to the whitish film, termed 'smegma', that is found under
> the foreskin.
-------------------------
And the exudate, smegma is found to contain antibacterial properties,
specifically harboring bacteria that lower the pH, like lactobacilli,
and which make it an unhealthy ground for pathogenic bacteria.
> Bacteria give off an offensive odour. Men differ in their
> sensitivity to this smell and some shower several times a day as a
> result.
-------------------------
You shit-eating prudes have also told women that their natural vaginal
odor "stinks" too, which has caused them to buy lotions and potions
to try to floralize their scent, when most men love that smell and
its own pheromonal perfumes, and 2/3rds or more men adore the smell
and taste of a woman's vagina, likening it to the best thing they've
ever tasted!! It's the same for women who know better than your
smegma claptrap!
>Some uncircumcised men, and/or their partners, find the stench
> so unpleasant that the smell has caused these men to seek a
> circumcision on this basis alone.
---------------------------
Prudes who are afraid of their own desires and their partner's
attractive pheromones - people whom YOU shit have told them they
are filthy slutty and sinful for liking sex! It's you minority
of sick prude prigs who are distorted and wrong!
> Penile hygiene is often difficult to
> achieve and attempting a very high degree of hygiene in uncircumcised
> men can result in new dermatological problems.
------------------------------
Yeah, if someone uses poisons on their genitals to try to make them
acceptible to shit like YOU, they can harm themselves, the better then
the reason to tell as many young people as possible that you shit are
wrong, abusive, dishonoring of humane sexuality, and emotionally ill
and not to be trusted regarding sex or most anything else, really!!
> For mothers and fathers,
> it is far easier to maintain cleanliness of their son's penis if it is
> circumcised. If their son isn't the messages are confusing: should they
> clean under the foreskin or leave it alone?.....
------------------------------
They should wash where they can, encourage the child to masturbate
exposing the glans as much as they are able, especially in the bath,
and in bed afterwards, and to encourage the boy as he finds more and
more of his penis erecting so as to stretch and expose the glans
naturally, and tell him that he should feel free to tell them about
any discomfort he feels so they can help with soaks or lotion or
ointment as needed rarely. Your prudery is the sickness, we're
the solution. You shit need to be removed from the earth!
> I am not a FAYGOPHOBE (find me one post where I attack FAYGELEHS!),
-----------------
You prude shit know now that if you do everything you are will be
spit upon, but you're a closet homophobe, just the same.
> but
> it does become troubling when the umpteenth anti-circer is found to be
> gay.
------------------
Because gays stand up for sexuality generally, as well as gay sexuality.
> I don't care what your sexual orientation, fetish, or circumcision
> status is. As long as it does not infringe on the rights of others,
> have as much fun as you want!!
-----------------------
Liar.
> Unfortunately for you and your deranged
> ilk, such is not the case! Your sole purpose is to sexualize and
> facilitate the upkeep of foreskin, while using children's rights as a
> pretense!
-------------------------
Children's Rights are no "pretense", you SHIT, it is the WHOLE REASON!!
The oppression of EVERY KIND of sex begins early with you SHIT!
> As for sympathy and tolerance!? Give me a break! Unlike other
> persecuted minorities, Jews (1/4 of 1% of the world's population) never
> cried in their beer! That's why they are The Chosen People! They stand
> as a living testament to perseverance: eighteen-hundred years without a
> homeland, persecuted for thousands of years, and having lost 6 milllion
> in the Holocaust. Jews are the oldest of any people on earth, still
> around with their national identity and cultural heriutage intact.
----------------------------------
Purest nonsense. Chinese, Egyptians, Hindus, Africans generally, all
have older traditions than Jews. These were the first human-settled
lands out of Africa.
> Jews
> are universally acknowledged as the source of many of the major
> religions of the world.
----------------------------------
Only because the most vicious religions emerged from Judaism back
when it was insane, and the Europeans who adopted them did so to
promote their evil.
> Jews have exerted an influence on world
> civilization more profound and lasting than any other ancient culture.
----------------------------
More garbage. Jews exerted nothing, religions they would not claim but
who claimed them spread their garbage.
> This is what makes Hebrews separate and unique from other peoples.
-----------------------------
Jewish mythology started by the UN to justify the creation of Israel
out of guilt after the Holocaust. Probably a bad idea. And now
everyone wants one, and see, they do! Next it'll be Native Americans.
People should have to live in the world they find themselves in and
work with the rest of us to change it. Giving people magic homelands
merely raises the phony superstitious millenial Zionist-type of
ignorant tribal mysticism and fosters the emotionally and mentally
unstable cultural egotism that should ALWAYS be stamped out!!
Steve
darr...@aol.com
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> >> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > R. Steve Walz wrote:
> >>
> >> > > If anyone wants to get> > a little insight into the deranged mind of
> >> > > a foreskin-obsessed anti-Semite, just read my classic exchanges with
> >> > > our lovely Steve. eh>
> >>
> >> > Where? All you did below is quote Mark Twain.>>
> >>
> >> Steve, your insane DRECK goes back a few years, remember!?
> > ---------------
> > What the fuck does THAT have to do with Mark Twain????
> >
> > You over-estimate your memorability. And you're the clown with
> > the insane dreck, promoting cutting on babies in a fixated manner.
> >
>
> practice.
> www.rabbiwatch.com
Tommy, if you are so proud of spreading vicious anti-circ/anti-Semitic
propaganda, why not allow the above message to remain indefinitely?
Hapless heathen, "The Mezizah" only occurs among Orthodox sects. As a
Jewish NYer living in The Mother of American Judaism (more Jews than
Jerusalem), I've attended by fair share of BRISSES, and not once have I
ever witnessed a Mohel perform the Mezizah. When it is practiced, a
cylinder tube is used to prevent any mouth to genital contact. Not for
the insane reasons that you believe, but for obvious health concerns.
Now go crawl back under your heathen rock, and take Steve with you! GOY
& GOYER - the blind leading the blind!eheehehe -D, NYC "Jewish
education has, over the years, brought to New York State the fruits of
a proud heritage of learning, a history of scholarly achievement and a
tradition of progressive educational involvement." - NELSON ROCKEFELLER
(former US V.P., NY Governor - 1959-73).."If you take almost anything -
science, law, philosophy, literature, medicine, music - and track it
back to its roots, you will find Jews there, or at least meet an awful
lot of them along the way" - PAUL JOHNSON (contemporary US historian,
"History of the Jews").."The modern United States, in spite of itself,
IS the United States in part because of its Jewish blood" - JOE MCCAIN
(author, lecturer, historian, brother of Senator John McCain - "The
Jews Will Not Go Quietly Again!").."Certainly, the world without the
Jews would have been a radically different place. Humanity might have
eventually stumbled upon all the Jewish insights. But we cannot be
sure. All the great conceptual discoveries of the human intellect seem
obvious and inescapable once they had been revealed, but it requires a
special genius to formulate them for the first time. The Jews had this
gift. To them we owe the idea of equality before the law, both divine
and human; of the sanctity of life and the dignity of human person; of
the individual conscience and so a personal redemption; of collective
conscience and so of social responsibility; of peace as an abstract
ideal and love as the foundation of justice, and many other items which
constitute the basic moral furniture of the human mind. Without Jews it
might have been a much emptier place." - PAUL JOHNSON (contemporary US
Historian, "A History of Jews & A History of Christianity")
darr...@aol.com
> hobn...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >> hobn...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > I often wonder what lovemaking would be like with the penis that nature
>
>
> New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com
> Fear rabbi gave tots herpes
> By MAGGIE HABERMAN
> DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
> Wednesday, February 2nd, 2005
> City health officials are investigating whether a baby boy died after
> contracting herpes from the rabbi who circumcised him, the Daily News
> has learned. >
Not a Mohel, but we all know what you are! All one has to do is take a
cursory look at your posting history. Anti-Semitic ramblings from a
deeply disturbed individual! Once again, the anti-Semite is immune to
refutation from either facts or logic. The anti-Semite has chosen to
live in hatred, without regard to either facts or logic. This is the
second time that you are posting the above. Let's recap for your feeble
mind: A) The Mezizah is only practiced among Hasidics - Orthodox Jews.
B) The above case is a rarity. C) The Herpes virus in this instance was
from a cold sore, not via sexual transmission. D) Today, a cylinder
tube is almost always used to prevent any mouth to genital contact for
obvious health concerns, not for the deluded reasons that you
propagate. E) Go crawl back under your heathen rock, and take R. Steve
Walz with you. -D, NYC "To the Jew first and also to the Gentile"
-ROMANS 1:16.."If statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one
percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust
lost in the blaze of the Milky way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to
be heard of, but he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as
prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial
importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his
bulk. His contributions to the world's list of great names in
literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse
learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his
numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages;
and had done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of
himself, and be excused for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the
Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone. Other peoples
have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out,
and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all,
beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting decadence, no
infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his
energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are
mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the
secret of his immortality?" - MARK TWAIN
> circumcised by Rabbi Yitzchok Fischer. The Rockland County-based
> Fischer is a prominent mohel - someone who performs religious
> circumcisions.
>
>
> Under Jewish law, a mohel is supposed to draw blood from the
> circumcision wound to remove impurities. While many mohels do it by
> hand, Fischer uses a practice little known outside ultra-Orthodox
> communities called metzizah bi peh, in which the mohel uses his mouth.
>
>
> On Oct. 16, 2004, Fischer performed a bris, or religious circumcision,
> on twins. Ten days later, one infant died of herpes, and the other
> tested positive for the virus, according to papers filed in Manhattan
> Supreme Court by city lawyers.
>
>
> A few weeks later, city Health Department officials found a third baby,
> on Staten Island, who also tested positive for herpes after being
> circumcised by Fischer in late 2003, the papers say.
>
>
> Herpes is far more dangerous to infants than adults because of babies'
> fragile immune systems. The health status of the two surviving boys was
> not clear yesterday.
>
>
> The city "is concerned that the possible transmission of herpes simplex
> virus type 1 in infants may be continuing as a result of defendant's
> practice of metzizah bi peh," city lawyers wrote in the complaint,
> dated Dec. 22. "Defendant's conduct to date constitutes a threat to the
> public health."
>
>
> The custom of metzizah is thousands of years old. But experts said that
> these days, many mohels breathe in through a sterile tube to draw the
> blood instead of using their mouths directly on the wound, although in
> some ultra-Orthodox sects, the oral practice is mandatory.
>
>
> The city asked Fischer to submit to a blood test in November, and
> ordered him to stop performing metzizah by mouth while waiting for the
> results, court papers show. Officials told him to use a sterile tube
> and gloves in the meantime.
>
>
> But the Health Department got a report that Fischer wasn't following
> the order, so the city filed the legal complaint to compel him do so.
>
>
> Fischer, 66, declined to comment yesterday.
>
>
> His lawyer, Mark Kurzmann, wouldn't say whether Fischer has done the
> blood test, citing medical confidentiality. But he said Fischer is
> "cooperating with the city's investigation to resolve this matter."
>
>
> "My client is known internationally as a caring, skilled and
> conscientious mohel," Kurzmann said.
>
>
> He suggested the babies could have contracted herpes elsewhere. He also
> said there are concerns about the government regulating religious
> practices.
>
>
> City lawyers declined to comment.
>
>
> Health officials, aware of the sensitivity of the issue, have been
> talking extensively to community leaders.
>
>
> "There's been a constructive dialogue between the community and the
> Department of Health, and we're working with [them] to ensure the
> safety of all our city's children," said Arie Lipnic, spokesman for
> City Councilman Simcha Felder (D-Brooklyn).
>
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/front/v-pfriendly/story/277069p-237314c.html
darr...@aol.com
People, need I say more!?ehehe Steve, time to ask Nurse Ratchet to
increase your psychotropic meds! Up until now, they seem to have
curtailed some of your foreskin-obsessed ramblings. -D, NYC "Zionism is
not racism - anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism".."We must study in greater
detail than their neighbors, these numerically and geographically
insignificant Jews, who gave to the world one of its greatest
literatures, two of its most influential religions and so many of its
profoundest men" - WILL DURANT (The Story Of Civilization, Volume
I).."At these colleges and others, Jews are valued for what sounds like
a stereotype - that Jews are smarter, for instance. Yet the numbers
proclaim something like that to be the case. On the recent College
Boards, Jews averaged 1161. Unitarians did somewhat better (1209), but
the national average was 1020. At the elite Ivy League schools, Jews
make up 23 percent of the student body. They are a measly 2 percent of
the U.S. population" - RICHARD COHEN (Washington Post, "A Study In
Differences").."It's anti-Semitic to point out that Jews are smarter
than Gentiles. Gimme a break. Who doesn't know that Jews are smarter
than Gentiles? Newsweek (8/21/00) gives the Jewish population of the
U.S. at two percent. Does anybody think that the number of Jewish
lawyers, college professors, successful businessmen, mathematicians, is
two percent? Anybody? How can it be offensive to say something so
dazzlingly obvious? If I were Jewish, I'd be flattered to hear this.
For the record, I consider myself a philosemite. It has been truly said
(by Paul Johnson in his History of the Jews) that if you take almost
anything - science, law, philosophy, literature, medicine, music - and
track it back to its roots, you will find Jews there, or at least meet
an awful lot of them along the way. I am a big fan of Western
Civilization: and I know - again, who doesn't know? - that the debt we
Gentiles owe to the Jews is colossal, and can never be repaid. No doubt
I shall now get letters explaining to me that this opinion, too, is
"anti-Semitic". Another thing you learn writing for the public is that
anything whatsoever that you say about Jews or Jewishness is
"anti-Semitic" to somebody out there" - JOHN DERBYSHIRE ("10 Things You
Can't Say In America" - National Review)
R. Steve Walz
>
> hobn...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >> hobn...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > I often wonder what lovemaking would be like with the penis that nature
>
Could be. I've offended a few mohels in my time, with quite similar
response.
The rest of this crap-article is merely your sick anti-semitism,
you need hurting. Bad!
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> >> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > R. Steve Walz wrote:
> >>
> >> > > If anyone wants to get> > a little insight into the deranged mind of
> >> > > a foreskin-obsessed anti-Semite, just read my classic exchanges with
> >> > > our lovely Steve. eh>
> >>
> >> > Where? All you did below is quote Mark Twain.>>
> >>
> >> Steve, your insane DRECK goes back a few years, remember!?
> > ---------------
> > What the fuck does THAT have to do with Mark Twain????
> >
> > You over-estimate your memorability. And you're the clown with
> > the insane dreck, promoting cutting on babies in a fixated manner.
> >
>
> practice.
More of Tommy's sick Nazi shit.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> Tommy wrote:
> > R. Steve Walz wrote:
> >
> > >> Steve, your insane DRECK goes back a few years, remember!?
> > > ---------------
> > > What the fuck does THAT have to do with Mark Twain????
> > >
> > > You over-estimate your memorability. And you're the clown with
> > > the insane dreck, promoting cutting on babies in a fixated manner.
> >
> > Perhaps he's a Mohel. They suck babies dicks and call it a religious
> > practice.
> > www.rabbiwatch.com
>
> Tommy, if you are so proud of spreading vicious anti-circ/anti-Semitic
> propaganda, why not allow the above message to remain indefinitely?
> Hapless heathen, "The Mezizah" only occurs among Orthodox sects. As a
> Jewish NYer living in The Mother of American Judaism (more Jews than
> Jerusalem), I've attended by fair share of BRISSES, and not once have I
> ever witnessed a Mohel perform the Mezizah. When it is practiced, a
> cylinder tube is used to prevent any mouth to genital contact. Not for
> the insane reasons that you believe, but for obvious health concerns.
> Now go crawl back under your heathen rock, and take Steve with you!
Don't mix me up with that shitty little Nazi, you stupid sick religous
nutcake! At least MOST Jews think your kind of shit is insanity!
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >>>>If anyone wants to get> > a little insight into the deranged mind of a foreskin-obsessed
> >>>>anti-Semite, just read my classic exchanges with our lovely Steve. eh>
> >>
> >>>Where? All you did below is quote Mark Twain.>>
> >>
> >>Steve, your insane DRECK goes back a few years, remember!?
> > ---------------
> > What the fuck does THAT have to do with Mark Twain????
> >
> > You over-estimate your memorability. And you're the clown with
> > the insane dreck, promoting cutting on babies in a fixated manner.
>
> Wasn't Mark Twain intact (uncircumcised/uncut)?
Why would it matter in the slightest? He wasn't Jewish, he just had
some novel opinions, generally quite liberal in his time as well as
this one!
Are you ANOTHER of these Jewish-Nazi nutcakes?
Steve
darr...@aol.com
Steve, now you're learning!ehe Neo-Nazis are deserving of punishment,
not those who believe that circumcision is a perfectly acceptable
parental decision as a result of religious, cultural or medical
considerations. Would it surprise you to learn that a recent survey in
California found the following: "40% of parents believed they had not
been provided with enough information on circumcision [1]. Parents of
those children who were left uncircumcised said that no medical
provider discussed circumcision with them, as opposed to 15% of parents
of children who were circumcised. Twice as many parents (27% of
uncircumcised vs 14% of circumcised boys) were unhappy with their
initial decision. i.e. twice as many in retrospect would have wanted
their child to have been circumcised had they known more." -D, NYC
"Life insurance companies should class wearers of a prepuce under the
head of a hazardous risk." - Medical writer, unknown.."Circumcision is
like a substantial and well-secured annuity; every year of life you
draw the benefits. Parents cannot make a better paying investment for
their little boys" - DR. P.C. REMONDINO
R. Steve Walz
> > -----------------------------
> > Jewish mythology started by the UN to justify the creation of Israel
> > out of guilt after the Holocaust. Probably a bad idea. And now
> > everyone wants one, and see, they do! Next it'll be Native Americans.
> > People should have to live in the world they find themselves in and
> > work with the rest of us to change it. Giving people magic homelands
> > merely raises the phony superstitious millenial Zionist-type of
> > ignorant tribal mysticism and fosters the emotionally and mentally
> > unstable cultural egotism that should ALWAYS be stamped out!!
> > Steve
>
> People, need I say more!?ehehe Steve, time to ask Nurse Ratchet to
> increase your psychotropic meds! Up until now, they seem to have
> curtailed some of your foreskin-obsessed ramblings.
Only people who are terrified and out of logic have need to such
ignorant pretense as yours. You're a posturing shit-mind.
> "Zionism is not racism
--------------------------
No, it's merely ignorant, like pretending "they" should "send all
the ni__ers back to Africa" and thinking THAT'S not racism.
- anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism".."
-------------------------------
Nonsense. Pro-Semitism is the sickness, promoting the same kind of
separation that festers, like Louis Farrakhan or some such.
> a stereotype - that Jews are smarter, for instance. Yet the numbers
> proclaim something like that to be the case. On the recent College
> Boards, Jews averaged 1161. Unitarians did somewhat better (1209),
--------------------
Nonsense.
P.S., I'm a Unitarian, and I did EXTREMELY well on all tests I've
ever taken. Damned near record-breaking. Not all do, but people who
are extremely intelligent DO gravitate strongly towards the Left and
Liberalism if not Communism.
SOME Jews are smart, but lots of this comes of HAVING to achieve to
avoid prejudice and hatred. Then again I've know lots of stupid Jews
as well.
I was married into a Jewish family for 20 years, and though my wife
and I were NOT Jewish, she had renounced religion altogether, as I
had, and we were both outsiders to Judaism in that family.
Steve
Taylor
R. Steve Walz wrote:
No, I am not. :-p But is it true in the novel 'Huck Finn', there's a
scene where Huckleberry Finn and slave Jim are lying naked on a raft
going down the mighty Misssissippi River and Jim asks Huck: "Do you love
me, Huck honey?"
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > Tommy wrote:
> > >
> > > hobn...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > > >> hobn...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I often wonder what lovemaking would be like with the penis that nature
> > >
> > > I bet Darrin is a Mohel..
> > ---------------
> > Could be. I've offended a few mohels in my time, with quite similar
> > response.>
>
> > The rest of this crap-article is merely your sick anti-semitism, > you need hurting. Bad!> Steve
>
> Steve, now you're learning!ehe Neo-Nazis are deserving of punishment,
> not those who believe that circumcision is a perfectly acceptable
> parental decision as a result of religious, cultural or medical
> considerations.
Parents who circumcise should be taken out and killed immediately.
Would it surprise you to learn that a recent survey in
> California found the following: "40% of parents believed they had not
> been provided with enough information on circumcision [1]. Parents of
> those children who were left uncircumcised said that no medical
> provider discussed circumcision with them, as opposed to 15% of parents
> of children who were circumcised. Twice as many parents (27% of
> uncircumcised vs 14% of circumcised boys) were unhappy with their
> initial decision. i.e. twice as many in retrospect would have wanted
> their child to have been circumcised had they known more."
-------------------------
And if properly informed of the role of the foreskin in the sexual
satisfaction of women, the result would be entirely opposite. Your
example is biased by the past antisexually sick state of society.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
> > you need hurting. Bad!
> > Steve
>
------------------
Given Nazi treatment of Jews, I'd say they have the right to kill
every one of you.
>Jews think they're so high and mighty
> they don't believe that the Goyim are good enough to even have sex with
> Jewish hookers.
--------------------
LIAR!
Gee, MY Jewish inlaws didn't mind me fucking both their daughters.
> Gentiles need to look into the Babylonian Talmud and see
> Jews as they see us.
-----------------------
A bad experience in Xtian Europe. To be expected after what they
went through. Xtianity should be destroyed.
> Chinese workers at a company in Israel have been forced to agree not to have
> sex with or marry Israelis as a condition of getting a job.
[]
> An Israeli lawyer who did not want to be named said while the contract might
> appear legal, it would be rejected if challenged in court.
--------------
And that's that. You sick Nazi liar!
Steve
R. Steve Walz
Which has nothing to do with anything but your homophobia.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> Anti-semitism is a normal reaction Gentiles has about Jews.
---------------------------
Liar. More of your Nazi crap, you shit-mouth!
Steve
R. Steve Walz
----------------
Numerous have, but none where they got to try both for a long time,
which is why they're meaningless. All they were getting was women's
previous misapprehensions, superstitions, and second-hand impressions.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
> > Tommy wrote:
> >>
> >> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> >>
> >> > The rest of this crap-article is merely your sick anti-semitism,
> >> > you need hurting. Bad!
> >> > Steve
> >>
> >> Jews are the ones who act like Nazi's.
> > ------------------
> > Given Nazi treatment of Jews, I'd say they have the right to kill
> > every one of you.
>
> Leon Trotskey we have 40-million reasons to hate them also.. The 40-million
> Gentiles that died under the Jew Bolsheviks blows their little holocaust
> off the water..
----------------------------------
Nonsense. Never happened, you shitty little Nazi liar!
Steve
R. Steve Walz
---------------------
"Your people"? You have no idea who your daddy is.
Steve
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message <2346015.5o5MPhafZU@FreeBSD>:
>they don't believe that the Goyim are good enough to even have sex with
>Jews as they see us.
Of course, the idiot child has simply swallowed hook line and sinker
the lies told by other haters about the "Babylonian Talmud," not
having actually read it zirself.
>Chinese workers in Israel sign no-sex contract
>
>Conal Urquhart in Tel Aviv
>Wednesday December 24, 2003
>The Guardian
>
>
>Chinese workers at a company in Israel have been forced to agree not to have
>sex with or marry Israelis as a condition of getting a job.
No more than they have been "forced" to agree to any other terms of
the contract.
Wonder why the idiot child lies about this?
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
>Given the treatmeant that Gentiles suffered under the hands of jews like
>Leon Trotskey we have 40-million reasons to hate them also..
Of course, Trotsky was not Jewish, but...
>The 40-million
>Gentiles that died under the Jew Bolsheviks blows their little holocaust
>off the water..
Nor were the Bolsheviks by and large Jewish, not to mention the fact
that by the idiot child's own standards, none of these people died
since zie cannot produce a single autopsy report documenting it...
>>>Jews think they're so high and mighty
>>> they don't believe that the Goyim are good enough to even have sex with
>>> Jewish hookers.
>> LIAR!
>> Gee, MY Jewish inlaws didn't mind me fucking both their daughters.
>Strange, they usually want Jews to stay with Jews..
And so do Catholics, and Baptists, and Buddhists -- what's your point?
>>> Gentiles need to look into the Babylonian Talmud and see
>>> Jews as they see us.
>> A bad experience in Xtian Europe. To be expected after what they
>> went through. Xtianity should be destroyed.
>The Babylonian Talmud was written long before they experienced any trouble
>in Europe. Why do you think Xtianity should be destroyed and not Judaism?
Why do you lie about the Talmud?
>>> Chinese workers at a company in Israel have been forced to agree not to
>>> have sex with or marry Israelis as a condition of getting a job.
>> []
>>> An Israeli lawyer who did not want to be named said while the contract
>>> might appear legal, it would be rejected if challenged in court.
>> And that's that. You sick Nazi liar!
>Ya see how racist they are?
No, but we see how racist you are.
Why is it okay for you and not (supposedly) for them?
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
>>> Given the treatmeant that Gentiles suffered under the hands of jews like
>>> Leon Trotskey we have 40-million reasons to hate them also.. The
>>> 40-million Gentiles that died under the Jew Bolsheviks blows their little
>>> holocaust off the water..
>> Nonsense. Never happened, you shitty little Nazi liar!
>The hell it didn't! Why must you try and deny the genocide of our people?
Why can't you produce a *single* autopsy showing the cause of death as
being murder by Jew?
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
>darr...@aol.com wrote:
>> Tommy wrote:
>>> Perhaps he's a Mohel. They suck babies dicks and call it a religious
>>> practice.
>>> www.rabbiwatch.com
>> Tommy, if you are so proud of spreading vicious anti-circ/anti-Semitic
>> propaganda, why not allow the above message to remain indefinitely?
>Ain't any anti-semitic propaganda. Do you think Jewish news reporters who
>report on the pedophilia of the Catholic church are being anti-Christian?
>Same standard applies here..
Way to duck the question, chickensh*t...
>> Hapless heathen, "The Mezizah" only occurs among Orthodox sects. As a
>> Jewish NYer living in The Mother of American Judaism (more Jews than
>> Jerusalem), I've attended by fair share of BRISSES, and not once have I
>> ever witnessed a Mohel perform the Mezizah.
>They aren't going to invite *you* to witness something like that.
Because .. ?
>> When it is practiced, a
>> cylinder tube is used to prevent any mouth to genital contact. Not for
>> the insane reasons that you believe, but for obvious health concerns.
>That's not what I've heard, I hear the Mohel takes a sip of wine to kill any
>bacteria in the mouth and then suck the penis.
Of course, you've heard it from other haters, and have not bothered to
do any *real* research into the matter...
>> Now go crawl back under your heathen rock, and take Steve with you! GOY
>> & GOYER - the blind leading the blind!eheehehe -D, NYC "Jewish
>Take your sorry arse to Israel and take Steve with you!
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
>Anti-semitism is a normal reaction Gentiles has about Jews.
No, it's irrational hatred of an entire groups of people most of whom
you've never met nor ever will.
Why must you pretend that this is "normal?"
darr...@aol.com
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > "Zionism is not racism - anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism"..">>
> No, it's merely ignorant, like pretending "they" should "send all> the ni__ers back to Africa" and thinking THAT'S not racism> Nonsense. Pro-Semitism is the sickness, promoting the same kind of> separation that festers, like Louis Farrakhan or some such.>>
Steve, and you were doing so well too! eh Unless you want to re-join
Tommy in his heathen cave, Zionism is not racism! Jews had gone without
a homeland for eighteen-hundred years, remember!? How then can "an
international movement for the establishment of a Jewish national or
religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern
Israel" be racist!? FYI: 20% of Arabs live as peaceful Israeli
citizens, and have a higher standard of living than any other Middle
Eastern country! DOH! Apartheid? My TUCHIS! See if any other Arab
country would treat these lovely Pallies as good as Israel has! -D, NYC
"Restoring the Jews to their homeland is a noble dream shared by many
Americans" - ABRAHAM LINCOLN (16th US President, 1861-1865).."There are
no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for
two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient but is
really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in war,
Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no "Palestinians" then, and the
West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians" then.
As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as
basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the "Palestinians," weeping
for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation" - LARRY MILLER
(umpteenth sweet, Jewish comedian, author, pundit, actor - "Whoever So
Blesses Them")
darr...@aol.com
> Why hasn't a study been done to see if women prefer cut or uncut?>>
Hapless heathen, the link had already been provided by yours truly! But
since you are so consumed with hatred, your feeble mind reverted back
to denial. Read it and weep, ya creep:
http://tinyurl.com/6d9e7 (Circumcision - a lifetime of medical
benefits: Women's Sexual Penile Preference, Sexual Activity, Psych
Effect)
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > "Zionism is not racism - anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism"..">>
>
> > No, it's merely ignorant, like pretending "they" should "send all> the ni__ers back to Africa" and thinking THAT'S not racism> Nonsense. Pro-Semitism is the sickness, promoting the same kind of> separation that festers, like Louis Farrakhan or some such.>>
>
> Steve, and you were doing so well too!
I'll not here to worry about meeting YOUR approval.
> eh Unless you want to re-join
> Tommy in his heathen cave, Zionism is not racism!
--------------------
Any form of separatism is or becomes racism.
And Tommy is a racist, just like Zionism is or becomes, invariably.
> Jews had gone without
> a homeland for eighteen-hundred years, remember!?
----------------------
And if the Nazi's had left them alone nobody would have ever tried
to give them one. Judaism would have been a dying religion as it is
now, just faster. All separatist religions must die, there is no
room for them in a world that cares about Truth and freeing people
from Superstition. And that means fanciful pseudo-histories that
each little religion fabricates as their "heritage" won't survive,
and SHOULDN'T!
> How then can "an
> international movement for the establishment of a Jewish national or
> religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern
> Israel" be racist!?
------------------------
All separatism finally yields to the fully formed prejudice that its
isolation and jingoism promote. If you imagine that Zionism is not
racism already, then you are kidding yourself.
> FYI: 20% of Arabs live as peaceful Israeli
> citizens, and have a higher standard of living than any other Middle
> Eastern country! DOH! Apartheid? My TUCHIS!
---------------------------------
Sure. But the press for reactionary right-wing religious laws by the
orthodox Jews will soon make non-Jews second class citizens that they
are already becoming in Israel. The ONLY saving grace for Israel
NOW is that internal western secularism has a chance to do from
within Israel itself, what I know must be done with all religion,
finally, and that's to ban it from the Universe of reasoned discourse
as insane, and remove it from the influence of people who are too
easily influenced, children and the stupid.
> See if any other Arab
> country would treat these lovely Pallies as good as Israel has! -D, NYC
> "Restoring the Jews to their homeland is a noble dream shared by many
> Americans" - ABRAHAM LINCOLN (16th US President, 1861-1865).."There are
> no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for
> two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient but is
> really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in war,
> Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no "Palestinians" then, and the
> West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians" then.
> As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as
> basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the "Palestinians," weeping
> for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation" - LARRY MILLER
> (umpteenth sweet, Jewish comedian, author, pundit, actor - "Whoever So
> Blesses Them")
-----------------------
We all know the history, and it measns nothing. Even if "Palestine"
was nothing but stinking desert that nobody wanted, to grant nationhood
to any religion is inappropriate and encourages separatism and insane
religious fascism within such a boundary.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> Tommy wrote:
> > R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
> > > Would it surprise you to learn that a recent survey in
> > >> California found the following: "40% of parents believed they had not
> > >> been provided with enough information on circumcision [1]. Parents of
> > >> those children who were left uncircumcised said that no medical
> > >> provider discussed circumcision with them, as opposed to 15% of parents
> > >> of children who were circumcised. Twice as many parents (27% of
> > >> uncircumcised vs 14% of circumcised boys) were unhappy with their
> > >> initial decision. i.e. twice as many in retrospect would have wanted
> > >> their child to have been circumcised had they known more."
> > > -------------------------
> > > And if properly informed of the role of the foreskin in the sexual
> > > satisfaction of women, the result would be entirely opposite. Your
> > > example is biased by the past antisexually sick state of society.
> > > Steve>
>
> > Why hasn't a study been done to see if women prefer cut or uncut?>>
>
> Hapless heathen, the link had already been provided by yours truly!
That's nothing but lies on a fringe nut-group site, the pro-circers.
No fair assessment of "what women want" can possibly be done without
including the billions of women in the third world who "like foreskins
just fine, thanks", and to whom circumcized penises look "weird"
and "freaky".
If you deprive women of the experience of the foreskin, and then
spring it on them in their ignorance, OF COURSE you can get the
initial reaction that your laughable supposed "study" opportunes
upon!
Steve
darr...@aol.com
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > > "Zionism is not racism - anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism"..">>
> >
> > > No, it's merely ignorant, like pretending "they" should "send all> the ni__ers back to Africa" and thinking THAT'S not racism> Nonsense. Pro-Semitism is the sickness, promoting the same kind of> separation that festers, like Louis Farrakhan or some such.>>> >
> > Steve, and you were doing so well too!>>>
> I'll not here to worry about meeting YOUR approval.>>
Steve, do it for the sake of your own sanity! You do not sound
well!!...
> > eh Unless you want to re-join
> > Tommy in his heathen cave, Zionism is not racism!>>
> Any form of separatism is or becomes racism.> And Tommy is a racist, just like Zionism is or becomes, invariably.>
As MLK JR. once said (even though some claim that he never uttered the
exact same words, it still rings true): "You declare, my friend, that
you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let
the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through
the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they
mean Jews - this is God's own truth...All men of good will exult in the
fulfillment of God's promise, that his People should return in joy to
rebuild their plundered land. This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing
less...And what is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people
of a fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa
and freely accord all other nations of the Globe. It is discrimination
against Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is
anti-Semitism... Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When
people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews - make no mistake about it"
> > Jews had gone without> > a homeland for eighteen-hundred years, remember!?>
> And if the Nazi's had left them alone nobody would have ever tried> to give them one. Judaism would have been a dying religion as it is> now, just faster.>>
A dying religion!? Back to the heathen cave you go! Judaism IS the most
popular and influential religion on the planet! Why else is Kabbalah so
popular among Hollywood!? Why else did Demi Moore & Ashton Kutcher tie
the knot with a Kabbalah ceremony? Is it because Judaism is a dying
religion? DOH! Only in your deep-seated mind, Steve! I think smegma
must have made a U-turn and seeped into your FARBLONDJET brain!ehe
<<All separatist religions must die, there is no> room for them in a
world that cares about Truth and freeing people> from Superstition. And
that means fanciful pseudo-histories that > each little religion
fabricates as their "heritage" won't survive,> and SHOULDN'T!>
You're one to talk about the truth, which has never been your friend!
You cuss like a chicken without a head, each time the Politically
Incorrect truth is placed before you! Medical facts and stats on
circumcision are nothing but lies to you, eh? Ah, but Judaism has
survived! And it shall continue to survive for another eternity! Every
other ancient culture made a vast noise and they are gone! Jews are
like the energizer bunny: they keep going and going...and going!ehe
> > How then can "an> > international movement for the establishment of a Jewish national or
> > religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern
> > Israel" be racist!?>>
> All separatism finally yields to the fully formed prejudice that its> isolation and jingoism promote. If you imagine that Zionism is not> racism already, then you are kidding yourself.
Once again, it becomes "separatism" like "routine infant circumcision"
becomes child mutilation and sexual torture, eh? Only in your
deep-seated mind, Steve!!
> > FYI: 20% of Arabs live as peaceful Israeli> > citizens, and have a higher standard of living than any other Middle> > Eastern country! DOH! Apartheid? My TUCHIS!
> ---------------------------------
> Sure. But the press for reactionary right-wing religious laws by the
> orthodox Jews will soon make non-Jews second class citizens that they
> are already becoming in Israel. The ONLY saving grace for Israel
> NOW is that internal western secularism has a chance to do from
> within Israel itself, what I know must be done with all religion,
> finally, and that's to ban it from the Universe of reasoned discourse
> as insane, and remove it from the influence of people who are too
> easily influenced, children and the stupid.>
Steve, where is your outrage at the umpteenth maiming & killing of
innocent Israeli civilians? If you applied the same energies to that as
you do to attacking Jews, you wouldn't have to share the same heathen
cave as Tommy Boy!
> > See if any other Arab> > country would treat these lovely Pallies as good as Israel has! -D, NYC> > "Restoring the Jews to their homeland is a noble dream shared by many
> > Americans" - ABRAHAM LINCOLN (16th US President, 1861-1865).."There are
> > no Palestinians. It's a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for
> > two thousand years. Like "Wiccan," "Palestinian" sounds ancient but is
> > really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in war,
> > Gaza was owned by Egypt, and there were no "Palestinians" then, and the
> > West Bank was owned by Jordan, and there were no "Palestinians" then.
> > As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as
> > basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the "Palestinians," weeping
> > for their deep bond with their lost "land" and "nation" - LARRY MILLER
> > (umpteenth sweet, Jewish comedian, author, pundit, actor - "Whoever So
> > Blesses Them")
> -----------------------
> We all know the history, and it measns nothing. Even if "Palestine"
> was nothing but stinking desert that nobody wanted, to grant nationhood
> to any religion is inappropriate and encourages separatism and insane
> religious fascism within such a boundary.> Steve
Why is that, Steve!? The French have France, Germans have Germany,
Italians have Italy? Do you see the running theme throughout? Why
should Jews be prevented from having a homeland that was first promised
to them well over two thousand years ago?
darr...@aol.com
R. Steve Walz wrote:
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > Jews have exerted an influence on world
> > civilization more profound and lasting than any other ancient culture.>
> More garbage. Jews exerted nothing, religions they would not claim but
> who claimed them spread their garbage.>>
Steve, back to the heathen cave with Tommy Boy! There's no question in
my mind that you are anti-Semitic. From holy wood to Hollywood, from
Einstein to Freud, from Moses to Jesus of Nazareth, from Christianity
to the Sabbath, from circumcision to Kosher, from the polio vaccine to
the syphilis cure, Jews have shaped American and World history like no
other peoples. An analogy of Jewish influence can be made to the Atom
(Einstein, Bohr, Teller, Oppenheimer - all sweet Jews): The secrets of
the tiniest particle of matter can, just like the Jews, change all of
human history. The scope and importance of Jewish contributions to
America and the world are staggering. For you to not only call Jews
garbage, but to insist that Jews have exerted nothing on world
civilization and culture, is proof positive that you need to be
committed for a 72 hr. observation at your local loony bin!! Steve, you
have no Jewish wife, you have no Jewish children, you have nobody! All
you have is your cruddy little foreskin to play with! -D, NYC "The Jews
are the yeast in the bread of civilization which causes it to grow" -
BEN HECHT (1894-1964, sweet author, playwright, screenwriter).."Take
away the Jews - and Germany is destitute" - JAMES W. GERARD (ex US
ambassador to Germany - excerpt from "Four Years In Germany" -
1917).."If Christians were Christians, there would be no anti-Semitism.
Jesus was a Jew. There is nothing that the ordinary Christian so
dislikes to remember as this awkward historical fact. But it happens,
nontheless, to be true" - JOHN HAYNES HOLMES (Minister, 1879-1964).."I
will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any
other nation" - JOHN ADAMS (2nd US President, 1797-1801).."It must be
understood that Jews, who for two thousand years were dispersed among
the nations of the world decided to return to the land of their
ancestors. This is their right" - POPE JOHN PAUL VI.."It would be
impossible to record the contribution that the Jewish people have made
toward the Negro's struggle for freedom - it has been so great" -
MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. (1965).."The 20th century ideals of Americans
have been the ideals of the Jews for more than 20 centuries" - LOUIS D.
BRANDEIS (1856 - 1941, first Jewish Supreme Court Justice)"Today in
Germany I am called a German man of science, and in England I am
represented as a Swiss Jew. If I come to be regarded as bete noire the
descriptions will be reversed, and I shall become a Swiss Jew for the
Germans and a German man of science for the English!" - ALBERT EINSTEIN
(Greatest Mind of The 20th Century)
darr...@aol.com
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
<At these colleges and others, Jews are valued for what sounds like
a stereotype - that Jews are smarter, for instance. Yet the numbers
proclaim something like that to be the case. On the recent College
Boards, Jews averaged 1161. Unitarians did somewhat better (1209), but
the national average was 1020. At the elite Ivy League schools, Jews
make up 23 percent of the student body. They are a measly 2 percent of
the U.S. population" - RICHARD COHEN (Washington Post, "A Study In
Differences")>
<Nonsense.> P.S., I'm a Unitarian, and I did EXTREMELY well on all
tests I've> ever taken. Damned near record-breaking. Not all do, but
people who> are extremely intelligent DO gravitate strongly towards the
Left and> Liberalism if not Communism.> SOME Jews are smart, but lots
of this comes of HAVING to achieve to> avoid prejudice and hatred. Then
again I've know lots of stupid Jews > as well.>>
Steve, what part of the above study did your insanely jealous Unitarian
mind refuse to accept the first time around? No, Steve! Jews begin by
comprising so few of the world's population, yet so many of its
successes. Jews (as a group) are smarter than Gentiles -
disproportionately or otherwise! As a group, they are still the
wealthiest ethnic group in the US. As a group, they are significantly
over represented in the most prestigious and well-paying professions.
As a group, their quality of life is recognizably better than their
neighbors. As a group, their children have higher IQs than other
children. As a group, they still win more Nobel prizes in medicine &
science than any other ethnicity. As a group, they still score higher
on College Board entry exams. This (like circumcision) is another
Politically Incorrect reality that you must take up with your head
shrinker!! Here's another hint: responding with "nonsense" or "no, it's
not!" does not make it so! You have an excuse for everything, eh!? When
studies show that 90% of women prefer the circumcised member, what do
you respond with? Sigh.. -D, NYC "Because I was a Jew, I found myself
free from any prejudices that limited others in the use of their
intellect, and being a Jew, I was prepared to enter opposition and to
renounce agreement with the 'compact majority'" - DR. SIGMUND FREUD
(sweet Jew - father of psychiatry).."We must study in greater detail
than their neighbors, these numerically and geographically
insignificant Jews, who gave to the world one of its greatest
literatures, two of its most influential religions and so many of its
profoundest men" - WILL DURANT (The Story Of Civilization, Volume
I).."It's anti-Semitic to point out that Jews are smarter than
Gentiles. Gimme a break. Who doesn't know that Jews are smarter than
Gentiles? Newsweek (8/21/00) gives the Jewish population of the U.S. at
two percent. Does anybody think that the number of Jewish lawyers,
college professors, successful businessmen, mathematicians, is two
percent? Anybody? How can it be offensive to say something so
dazzlingly obvious? If I were Jewish, I'd be flattered to hear this.
For the record, I consider myself a philosemite. It has been truly said
(by Paul Johnson in his History of the Jews) that if you take almost
anything - science, law, philosophy, literature, medicine, music - and
track it back to its roots, you will find Jews there, or at least meet
an awful lot of them along the way. I am a big fan of Western
Civilization: and I know - again, who doesn't know? - that the debt we
Gentiles owe to the Jews is colossal, and can never be repaid. No doubt
I shall now get letters explaining to me that this opinion, too, is
"anti-Semitic". Another thing you learn writing for the public is that
anything whatsoever that you say about Jews or Jewishness is
"anti-Semitic" to somebody out there" - JOHN DERBYSHIRE ("10 Things You
Can't Say In America" - National Review)
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
>
> As MLK JR. once said (even though some claim that he never uttered the
> exact same words, it still rings true): "You declare, my friend, that
> you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let
> the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through
> the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they
> mean Jews - this is God's own truth...All men of good will exult in the
> fulfillment of God's promise, that his People should return in joy to
> rebuild their plundered land. This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing
> less...And what is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people
> of a fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa
> and freely accord all other nations of the Globe. It is discrimination
> against Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is
> anti-Semitism... Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When
> people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews - make no mistake about it"
He erroneously analogized black slavery to Jewish enslavement.
MLK,Jr was a delusional Xtian. They have their uses, but later they'll
all have to be killed. Xtians are insane and will invariably try to
offend against liberty. MLK for instance, was known to rale against
pornography, and then he would watch porn with his friends and later
repent. He was confused about sexual issues of many kinds, and was
personally erratic about that, as we now know. Most Xtians are of
that serious confusion.
> > We all know the history, and it measns nothing. Even if "Palestine"
> > was nothing but stinking desert that nobody wanted, to grant nationhood
> > to any religion is inappropriate and encourages separatism and insane
> > religious fascism within such a boundary.> Steve
>
> Why is that, Steve!? The French have France, Germans have Germany,
> Italians have Italy? Do you see the running theme throughout? Why
> should Jews be prevented from having a homeland that was first promised
> to them well over two thousand years ago?
-------------------
That's nuts, like saying Catholics should have "Catholic-land"!!
Why in ten years we'd have to invade them and kill their Talibanesque
Inquisitioners!
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> Steve, back to the heathen cave with Tommy Boy! There's no question in
> my mind that you are anti-Semitic. From holy wood to Hollywood, from
> Einstein to Freud, from Moses to Jesus of Nazareth, from Christianity
> to the Sabbath, from circumcision to Kosher, from the polio vaccine to
> the syphilis cure, Jews have shaped American and World history like no
> other peoples. An analogy of Jewish influence can be made to the Atom
You're delusional. When a Jew who is a crank is told he is wrong,
he tells the accuser that that accuser is "anti-Semitic". That sounds
just like black paranoia of racism.
Steve
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
>
> <At these colleges and others, Jews are valued for what sounds like
> a stereotype - that Jews are smarter, for instance. Yet the numbers
> proclaim something like that to be the case. On the recent College
> Boards, Jews averaged 1161. Unitarians did somewhat better (1209), but
>
> tests I've> ever taken. Damned near record-breaking. Not all do, but
> people who> are extremely intelligent DO gravitate strongly towards the
> Left and> Liberalism if not Communism.> SOME Jews are smart, but lots
> of this comes of HAVING to achieve to> avoid prejudice and hatred. Then
>
> Steve, what part of the above study did your insanely jealous Unitarian
> mind refuse to accept the first time around? No, Steve! Jews begin by
> comprising so few of the world's population, yet so many of its
> successes. Jews (as a group) are smarter than Gentiles
Even if true, and I don't doubt it really, it's irrelevant.
It is not "racial" it is circumstantial!
There's no superiority that can be correctly inferred.
Any more than stupid yuppies on cell-phones are "superior".
Steve
darr...@aol.com
Steve, time to step away from that Coney Island fun house mirror of
yours! More than not, the accuser usually is anti-Semitic! DOH! If it
walks and talks like a duck, it's usually a duck! Referring to Jews as
"garbage" makes you a vile anti-Semite! Being defiant in the face of
historic reason makes you an anti-Semite. It is the anti-Semite who
hides behind Godwin's Law. Who or what is wrong, Steve!? Where or when
have you disproven that Jews started the whole shebang - life!? Here's
a little hint: you will never be able to wrong a right: Jews are the
most influential & successful peoples on the planet! Always have been,
always will be! -D, NYC "Often when I found in China an artist of
unusual talent or a mind more vivid than others among my students, the
chances were good that he had Jewish blood in him. It is a creative
strain" - PEARL BUCK (1892-1973, Nobel laureate in literature).."If
statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one percent of the human
race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust lost in the blaze of
the Milky way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard of, but he is
heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the planet as
any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of
proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the
world's list of great names in literature, science, art, music,
finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of
proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous
fight in this world, in all the ages; and had done it with his hands
tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it.
The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Roman followed, and made a vast
noise, and they are gone. Other peoples have sprung up and held their
torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now,
or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what
he always was, exhibiting decadence, no infirmities of age, no
weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his
alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other
forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?" -
MARK TWAIN
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
>Walz, you do know the definition of "Anti-Semitic" has been changed.
>An anti-semite use to be someone who disliked jews. The New definition of
>Anti-Semitsm is one jews dislike.
Nope. The definition is still the same, the wet dreams of mindless
haters like yourself notwithstanding.
Wunderkind
If the Jews are so great and successful, why are they only 0.2% of the
world's population?
R. Steve Walz
> > he tells the accuser that that accuser is "anti-Semitic". That
> > sounds just like black paranoia of racism.
>
> yours! More than not, the accuser usually is anti-Semitic! DOH! If it
> walks and talks like a duck, it's usually a duck!
You're an idiot. You wouldn't know a "duck" if it bit your ass.
> Referring to Jews as "garbage" makes you a vile anti-Semite!
--------------------
Nobody has the vaguest idea what you're talking about, and neither
do you.
And quit quoting people who are dead and cannot tell you how stupid
and deluded you are!
Steve
R. Steve Walz
> Walz married a Jewess, and has two Jewish children.
> Notice the Jew in this thread 'Darrin' has labbled Steve an anti-Semite.
> Why? Well, Walz is against circumcision.
>
> So, an anti-semite is someone who Jews dislike, or someone who disagrees
> with a Jew.
---------------------
No, only Jewish morons think that. And yes, there are a bunch!
Steve
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
>Roger wrote:
>>>Walz, you do know the definition of "Anti-Semitic" has been changed.
>>>An anti-semite use to be someone who disliked jews. The New definition of
>>>Anti-Semitsm is one jews dislike.
>> Nope. The definition is still the same, the wet dreams of mindless
>> haters like yourself notwithstanding.
>No, the definition isn't the same..
You can, of course, cite *anyone* but another mindless hater in
support of this?
>This thread is a prime example.
>Walz married a Jewess, and has two Jewish children.
>Notice the Jew in this thread 'Darrin' has labbled Steve an anti-Semite.
I've noticed no such thing.
>Why? Well, Walz is against circumcision.
>
>So, an anti-semite is someone who Jews dislike, or someone who disagrees
>with a Jew. You need only read this thread..
Once again, just because *one person* may be using the word
incorrectly does not change its meaning, idiot child.
But your irrational hatred doesn't allow you to understand this
concept, any more than you can understand the concept of honesty.
Roger
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
>Tommy wrote:
>> Roger wrote:
>>>>Walz, you do know the definition of "Anti-Semitic" has been changed.
>>>>An anti-semite use to be someone who disliked jews. The New definition of
>>>>Anti-Semitsm is one jews dislike.
>>> Nope. The definition is still the same, the wet dreams of mindless
>>> haters like yourself notwithstanding.
>> No, the definition isn't the same.. This thread is a prime example.
>> Walz married a Jewess, and has two Jewish children.
>> Notice the Jew in this thread 'Darrin' has labbled Steve an anti-Semite.
>> Why? Well, Walz is against circumcision.
>>
>> So, an anti-semite is someone who Jews dislike, or someone who disagrees
>> with a Jew. You need only read this thread..
>I forgot to post this..
>
>Better late than never..
No, since it is a forgery, better never than late.
>http://tinyurl.com/bqydt
>
>"There are lots of cities where the black population is low but crime
>is high such as Dallas and lots of cities where black population is
>high but crime is low."
Google says "joejack's" server says zie was responding to message
oa326118cl0nsiibc...@4ax.com:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/56b127e8fb55fccd?dmode=source&hl=en
Google *also* says that that message contains none of the text zie
claimed to be quoting:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/805ed4e80440e229?hl=en
In fact that message was on an entirely different subject, which
anyone checking the two messages can plainly see.
Nor is it the first time I've pointed this out, making your claim
above yet another knowing untruth: that is, another example of your
fundamental dishonesty.
Why *do* you think such rank dishonesty is acceptable?
nob...@junk.min.net
>If the Jews are so great and successful, why are they only 0.2% of the
>world's population?
Christianity and Islam were spread by the sword - anyone conquered either
had to convert or die. Judiasm didn't do the same.
--
R. Steve Walz
Because they would have immediately been eradicated.
Their only claim to fame is as source book for part of
both modern Xtian and Islamic insanity.
Without that they would not even be known or living today.
Steve
darr...@aol.com
Steve, the only insanity is having to listen to your ongoing delusions!
Oh yes, because they never tried to eradicate Jews in the Spanish
Inquisition & The Holocaust!! DOH! Once again, the Jew is the emblem of
eternity! No matter how much Genocide or hatred is thrown our way, we
keep on keeping! Jews never adopted the hatred that their detractors
placed upon them. Jews stand as a living testament to perseverance. -D,
NYC "Christianity has deluged the world with blood & tears - Judaism
has caused neither for religion's sake" - MARK TWAIN.."If Christ were
here, there is one thing he would not be - a Christian" - MARK
TWAIN.."To describe Nazi hatred of the Jews, the word anti-Semitism
would not suffice; a new word, "Genocide," had to be coined by this
Polish-Jewish international lawyer - RALPH LEMKIN".."The Jews are the
yeast in the bread of civilization which causes it to grow" - BEN HECHT
(1894-1964, sweet author, playwright, screenwriter).."If Christians
darr...@aol.com
Amazing, eh?ehe You just provided an answer to your own question. Can
you name me one other religion (as popular & influential as Judaism)
that has been able to disproportionately excel to the same degree as
the Hebrews!? Here's a hint: you can't! The same people who comprise a
measly 1/4 of 1% of the world's population, have endured centuries of
persecution, had gone without a homeland for eighteen-hundred years,
and have lost 6 million people in the Holocaust. Jews stand as a living
testament to perseverance. That is why we are God's Chosen People. We
are unique by virtue of all of the above! Jews are so few in number,
yet so great in ability! We were given a special gift - the gift of
disproportionate talent in every field of human endeavor. -D, NYC "I
grew up believing that Jews were the chosen people, that they gave us
the high ethical and moral principles of our civilization" - DWIGHT D.
EISENHOWER (34th US President, 1953 - 1961).."The Jews have the best
average brain of any people in the world. The Jews are the only race
who work wholly with their brains and never with their hands. There are
no Jewish beggars, no Jewish tramps, no Jewish ditch diggers,
hod-carriers, day laborers or followers of toilsome, mechanical trades.
They are peculiarly and conspicuously the world's intellectual
aristocracy" - MARK TWAIN.."The Hebrew is never a beggar, he has always
kept the law - life by toil - often under severe and oppressive civil
restrictions" - BENJAMIN HARRISON (23rd US President,1889-1893)
darr...@aol.com
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Tommy wrote:
> >> hobn...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> hobn...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I often wonder what lovemaking would be like with the penis that
> >> >> > nature
> >>
> >> I bet Darrin is a Mohel..
> >>
> >> Fear rabbi gave tots herpes
> >> By MAGGIE HABERMAN
> >> DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
> >> Wednesday, February 2nd, 2005
> >> City health officials are investigating whether a baby boy died after
> >> contracting herpes from the rabbi who circumcised him, the Daily News
> >> has learned. >
> > All one has to do is take a
> > cursory look at your posting history. Anti-Semitic ramblings from a
> > deeply disturbed individual! Once again, the anti-Semite is immune to
> > refutation from either facts or logic. The anti-Semite has chosen to
> > live in hatred, without regard to either facts or logic.
>
> Anti-semitism is a normal reaction Gentiles has about Jews. Look at your
> history, you people have been exiled out of all most every country you've
> ever resided in. Your host country/population will not tolerate you people
> very long. Not to mention you've never been loyal to your host countries.>
No, my deranged little Tommy Boy! Anti-Semitism is an abornmal reaction
that a subsection of society has toward other people who are more
successful than they. IOW, success breeds envy. And Jews have been
successful in a way that breeds jealousy. Why have Jews been harried
and hunted, exiled & slaughtered? Not for the insane reasons that you
give or believe, but because Jews have always been victims of their own
success. When they asked Willie Sutton, the famous bank robber, why he
chose banks as his major focus for crime, he answered simply, "That's
where the money is!" You don't have to be a disciple of Karl Marx to
agree that capital always plays a significant part in the real story
behind events. "Show me the money, " and I'll show you the motive.
Follow the story of crimes committed against the Jews, "in the name of
the Lord" and lurking somewhere behind the scenes invariably is the
economic factor (aka 'insanely jealous of Jewish success and wealth').
The Jews were convenient scapegoats for everything on religious
grounds - after all they were the Christ killers - so the princes could
redirect the misery of the masses against them and then claim their
money to boot. Here was the perfect whipping boy who could always be
used to explain why peasants were poor and the populace was suffering.
And because the scapegoat was also very talented, he could be used like
a sponge, let him accumulate a lot through hard work so that the rulers
could then soak him dry for their own personal benefit. What a deal!
It's almost as if, had there been no Jews, the aristocracy of the time
would have had to invent them...
<<Who sold our nuclear secrets to Russia, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.
Many
> Jonathan Pollard,Harry Gold, Morton Sobell, Ehud Yatom, Klaus Fuchs, William
> Perl, Elizabeth Terrill Bentley, Aleksander Fetlisov, David Greenglass,
> Ruth Greenglass, Max Elitcher, Theodore Hall etc, etc... AND ETC!>
Yes, regurgitate the same old anti-Semitic canard: let's cite the few
examples where Jews have strayed, so it can be used to tarnish the
overwhelming good that Jews have done for society. It's utterly amazing
that you forgot to cite David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz! LOL! Jews are not
infallible. At the same time, you will find less crime, less substance
abuse, and less maleficence among Jews and Judaism than any other
religion. For you to take glee in the senseless and unjust execution of
Julius & Ethel Rosenberg, shows me that you are a despicable person.
> Who is beating, raping and enslaving our women? Jews
> The report said women are sold to pimps for as much as $10,000 each, work
> 14-18 hours a day, charge about $30 a client but receive only a small
> fraction of the money for themselves.
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/23/world/main682673.shtml>
The anti-Semite is immune to refutation from either facts or logic. The
anti-Semite has chosen to live in hatred, without regard to either
facts or logic. Keep posting your anti-Semitic propaganda that has been
debunked a million and one times, lame brain!
> Who launched tarrorist attacks against America?
> In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings,
> including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind
> implicating Arabs as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one
> of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and
> identify one of the bombers, which in turn led to the round up of an
> Israeli spy ring.
> http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/lavon.html>
See above for more anti-Semitic propaganda that has been debunked a
million and one times, lame brain!!
> Who is under investigation for espionage as I type this?
> AIPAC
> http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1216/dailyUpdate.html>
See above for more anti-Semitic propaganda that has been debunked a
million and one times, lame brain!!
> The list goes on and on. Btw, can you name one country on this planet that
> has stabed America in the back more than the worlds largest wellfare state
> Israel?>
Lame brain, even without US's aid (aka investing in a country that has
given back to America & the world tenfold), Israel's GDP is greater
than a handful of EU countries. Money alone has never equated to
intellect or perseverance! Lame brain, how many countries have a measly
5 million people, are in a constant state of terror, and have the honor
of being one of the Top 10 High-Technology cities (Tel Aviv) in the
world!? DOH! Considering the circumstances, Israel (only democratic
state in the Middle East) does disproportionately better than any other
country on the face of this earth. Place an embargo on Israel (one of
the hightest ratio of doctors in the world - 1 to every 450 people),
and you and the rest of the 99% of the Gentile world can say bye-bye to
stem-cell research, computer technology, and a host of other scientific
& medical advancements that Israel & Jews continue to pioneer
throughout the world. Lame brain, if not for that so-called welfare
state, you'd still be chipping away at numbers on granite!ehe DOH!
Israel is responsible for creating and exporting a great number of
technological advances in computers: chat software, MMAX & Pentium II
processors, data compression techniques that allow images and videos to
be transmitted on the internet, firewall and network security
mechanisms that have made the internet a safer neighborhood, and
internet telephony and conferencing technologies that connect millions
of people around the world. Many of microprocessors inside our PCs were
designed in Israel, and the basic technologies behind the flash
memories in smart cards were invented in Israel. Israeli researchers
are driving advances in modern algorithms, cryptography, knowledge
sharing, scientific computation, and compilation, to name just a few
fields. It is thus no surprise that most major companies in the
computer field have established research and development centers in
Israel, including Hewlett Packard, Microsoft (currently being run by
sweet Jew, STEVE BALLMER - 16th richest man in the world), 3COM,
Motorola, Intel, Applied Materials, Cisco, Lucent, IMB, SAP, Baan, and
National Semiconductors.
> After the things you people have done to America, do ya really think that
> people are going to love you for the evil you perpetrate? >
The evil that Jews have perpetrated against America?ehehee The same
America that gave the Jews more than any other country in the world had
ever given before. And in giving, it in turn was blessed as no other
nation on earth the
talents of a people waiting only for the freedom and the opportunity to
express themselves. Name a field and there were Jews in the forefront:
medicine and law, entertainment and literature, science and the arts,
politics and law, physics and philosophy, sports and humor - the list
goes on and on, and the books detailing the contributions of Jewish
legendary figures of American life run into the tens of thousands.
To do some justice to the incredible achievements of 2% of the
population of the United States to its culture and intellectual
vitality, the United States of America embraced a people that would
contribute greatly to its becoming the most blessed and most powerful
country on earth. As Joe McCain (author, lecturer, historian - brother
of Senator John McCain) said in his The Jews Will Not Go Quietly Again:
"The modern United States, in spite of itself, IS the United States in
part because of its Jewish blood" Tommy Boy, you truly are a demented
person who lives in his own deluded world, eh?
> > This is the
> > second time that you are posting the above. Let's recap for your feeble
> > mind: A) The Mezizah is only practiced among Hasidics - Orthodox Jews.
> > B) The above case is a rarity. C) The Herpes virus in this instance was
> > from a cold sore, not via sexual transmission. D) Today, a cylinder
> > tube is almost always used to prevent any mouth to genital contact for
> > obvious health concerns, not for the deluded reasons that you
> > propagate. E) >
> Cite the Israeli law that bans this type of pedophilia?>>
When your finally committed to a hospital for the criminally insane,
foreskinned Bubba will tell you all about it!ehehehh
Dark Star
<darr...@aol.com> wrote:
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > nob...@junk.min.net wrote:
> > >
> > > In <0XA9f.4356$yX2....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, on 11/01/05
> > > at 03:04 AM, Wunderkind <a...@b.com> said:
> > >
> > > >If the Jews are so great and successful, why are they only 0.2% of the
> > > >world's population?
Probably because they are the only group who recognizes the limited
resources of our planet and plan their families. That's not too hard
to do. OTOH look at that wild-eyed born-again "christian" congressman
whose wife has borne him 16 children "because god told us to." A
little simple math would show that this jerk family would, given that
those 16 kids might be a little less likely to show how fertile they
are and produce only four kids. And those 64 kids also only produce
four kids. That, my friend, brings us a housing tract full of selfish
families with some 256 kids, enough to populate an entire school.
The only silver lining on that thunder cloud might be the reluctance of
any sane woman to avoid marrying into that family.
> > >
> > > Christianity and Islam were spread by the sword - anyone conquered either
> > > had to convert or die. Judiasm didn't do the same.
> > ---------------
>
> > Because they would have immediately been eradicated.
> > Their only claim to fame is as source book for part of
> > both modern Xtian and Islamic insanity.
> >
> > Without that they would not even be known or living today.
> > Steve
>
> Steve, the only insanity is having to listen to your ongoing delusions!
Uh, Darrin, if you really wanted to stoplistening (reading) what you
consider insanity, why not simply add a filter to your newsreader to
delete his posts. The you won't have to get your blood pressure going,
you won't have to turn on your !ehe machine, and you could get around
to more intelligent discourse. I know you're capable of it so why not
avoid the trolls.
Luca
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > nob...@junk.min.net wrote:
> > >
> > > In <0XA9f.4356$yX2....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, on 11/01/05
> > > at 03:04 AM, Wunderkind <a...@b.com> said:
> > >
> > > >If the Jews are so great and successful, why are they only 0.2% of the
> > > >world's population?
> > >
> > > Christianity and Islam were spread by the sword - anyone conquered either
> > > had to convert or die. Judiasm didn't do the same.
> > ---------------
>
> > Because they would have immediately been eradicated.
> > Their only claim to fame is as source book for part of
> > both modern Xtian and Islamic insanity.
> >
> > Without that they would not even be known or living today.
> > Steve
>
> Steve, the only insanity is having to listen to your ongoing delusions!
Poor baby, I see I have angered you beyond reason and logic.
> Oh yes, because they never tried to eradicate Jews in the Spanish
> Inquisition & The Holocaust!!
----------------
Now he thinks I'm an anti-semite merely because I presented an not
occurring scenario in which Jews would not have persisted to the
present time. His is such a precious illogic.
> Jesus was a Jew.
> There is nothing that the ordinary Christian so dislikes to remember
> as this awkward historical fact.
--------------------------
Nonsense, I was raised Methodist and no one EVER said ANYTHING to that
effect, how stupid and insipid.
> But it happens, nontheless, to be true"
-------------------------
And if the slave revolts of the early first few centuries after that
had been just a little more successful, nobody would ever have heard
of Xtianity, it would have been hunted down and eradicated. And tiny
Judaism would be similarly unknown in the modern age.
Steve
darr...@aol.com
Why killfile when I can just as easily place my sharp cursor tongue on
decimate or stun?eheheh Steve and his deranged ilk are to be humored,
but never ignored!! Yes, I choose to respond in a colorful manner. Much
like David Mamet (sweet Jew), I have carved out my own unique niche of
words!eh -D, NYC "Even if the Jews have not all been geniuses, their
general average of intelligence and intellectuality is far above our
general average - and that is one of our reasons for wishing to drive
them out of the higher forms of business and the professions. It is the
swollen envy of pygmy minds" - MARK TWAIN.."Should another Moses arise
and preach a Semitic exodus from Germany, and should he prevail, they
would leave the land impoverished far more than was ancient Egypt by
the loss of jewels of gold and the jewels of silver of which the people
were spoiled. There is not a profession which would not suffer serious
loss of many of its most brilliant ornaments, and in none more so than
in our own. (i.e. medicine)" - SIR WILLIAM OSLER, 1884.."Not jewels,
but Jews, were the real financial basis of the first expedition of
Columbus" - HERBERT BAXTER ADAMS ("Columbus & His Discovery Of
America")
R. Steve Walz
>
> Dark Star wrote:
> > In article <1130905452.0...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
> > <darr...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > > > nob...@junk.min.net wrote:
>
> > > > Because they would have immediately been eradicated.
> > > > Their only claim to fame is as source book for part of
> > > > both modern Xtian and Islamic insanity.> > >
> > > > Without that they would not even be known or living today.
> > > > Steve> >
>
> > > Steve, the only insanity is having to listen to your ongoing delusions!>
>
> > Uh, Darrin, if you really wanted to stoplistening (reading) what you
> > consider insanity, why not simply add a filter to your newsreader to
> > delete his posts. The you won't have to get your blood pressure going,
> > you won't have to turn on your !ehe machine, and you could get around
> > to more intelligent discourse. I know you're capable of it so why not
> > avoid the trolls.> Luca
>
> Why killfile when I can just as easily place my sharp cursor tongue on
> decimate or stun?eheheh
You're self-deluded. You're as dull as a broken pencil.
Steve
darr...@aol.com
Steve, your delusions are progressing!! The answer is as simple as the
Aretha Franklin song: "R-E-S-P-E-C-T - find out what it means to
me!"eheee The idea of respect for others and the values of a
pluralistic society form an old, integral part of Judaism and Jewish
tradition. The rabbis taught that all men are equal in the eyes of God
if they do the will of God: "Whether Jew or Gentile, man or woman, rich
or poor - according to a man's deeds does God's presence rest on him."
Unlike Catholicism, we do not preach abstinence, pro-life, or the
forbiddance of pre-marital sex. You never see Jews banging on doors,
asking people to convert to Judaism. Yet you see it with every other
religion. That is why Christianity has a long history of cruelty
against others. That is why our history is short on violence and long
on tolerance. We did not have to rely on brawn to excel!! The greatest
merchandise that a Jew possesses is his intellect! Whether we resisted
or not, our unique ability to persevere is what ultimately overcame all
the obstacles before us! -D, NYC "It must be understood that Jews, who
for two thousand years were dispersed among the nations of the world
decided to return to the land of their ancestors. This is their right"
- POPE JOHN PAUL VI.."One Jew was put to death in Jerusalem two
thousand years ago and the non-Jewish world has not ceased to speak of
this death. Do we Jews not have the right, the duty, to keep alive the
memory of the six million dead?" - ELIE WIESEL (Nobel Peace prize
winner, humanitarian, Holocaust survivor).."From New York - the
greatest city in the world!" - LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN
Rich
Wow! Good thing Columbus found the New World, otherwise he'd have
owed those people at least 10 pounds of flesh!
-Rich
R. Steve Walz
>
> R. Steve Walz wrote:
> > > Steve, the only insanity is having to listen to your ongoing delusions!
> > ----------------
> > Poor baby, I see I have angered you beyond reason and logic.
> >
> >
> > > Oh yes, because they never tried to eradicate Jews in the Spanish
> > > Inquisition & The Holocaust!!
> > ----------------
> > Now he thinks I'm an anti-semite merely because I presented an not
> > occurring scenario in which Jews would not have persisted to the
> > present time. His is such a precious illogic.
>
> Steve, your delusions are progressing!!
You're fucking confused.
> The answer is as simple as the
> Aretha Franklin song: "R-E-S-P-E-C-T - find out what it means to
> me!"eheee The idea of respect for others and the values of a
> pluralistic society form an old, integral part of Judaism and Jewish
> tradition.
---------------------
There's nothing good about PLURALISM, it is nothing but tolerance
for every manner of EVIL!
Respect and Love pre-dates and is antagonistic to every religion.
> The rabbis taught that all men are equal in the eyes of God
> if they do the will of God: "Whether Jew or Gentile, man or woman, rich
> or poor - according to a man's deeds does God's presence rest on him."
-----------------------
That wasn't original, and if you think your ancestors were so stupid
that they would need some priest to tell them that, then they were
pre-human.
> Unlike Catholicism, we do not preach abstinence, pro-life, or the
> forbiddance of pre-marital sex.
-----------------------
You're right, judaism *IS* SLIGHTLY better than most xtianity, but
even that is still awfully ignorant.
> You never see Jews banging on doors, asking people to convert to
> Judaism.
------------------------
Well, there are Jews that proselytize... though admittedly only to
other Jews. Your Lubavitchers are sort of like the WatchTower clones!
:-^>
> Yet you see it with every other
> religion. That is why Christianity has a long history of cruelty
> against others. That is why our history is short on violence and long
> on tolerance. We did not have to rely on brawn to excel!! The greatest
> merchandise that a Jew possesses is his intellect! Whether we resisted
> or not, our unique ability to persevere is what ultimately overcame all
> the obstacles before us!
---------------------
I agree that judaism is slightly less harmful, but I'm still not very
impressed. You have very similar antisexuality as do xtian fundie
scum. You pretend open sex and porn is evil or wrong, you don't teach
your children about sex hands-on, you coerce and terrorize your kids,
and you often laud the so-called "free market system", which is neither
free nor a market, but merely a means for the rich to steal from the
rest of us. In the things I regard as most immoral, YOU'RE THE SAME!!
Steve
justanothe...@yahoo.com
agcbli...@yahoo.com wrote:
> NY POST/PAGE SIX...
> OUT magazine narrowly avoided a smackdown from Hollywood heavyweight
> Camryn Manheim's lawyers earlier this month by deleting photos of
> Manheim's son, Milo Manheim, and dropping mentions that his
> super-secret father/sperm donor is male model Jeffrey Brezovar.
>