Celebrities Who Married Their Stalkers -- Plus One Fudge Packer
Lisa Pease
comes from a supermarket tabloid. Sources include a new book
published by the Georgia Literary Association, the Montreal Gazette,
People, even the Internet Movie Data Base.
Many celebs qualify as celebs who married their stalkers. Here's how
I define stalking. It can mean your sister cozying up to the celeb on
an airplane flight. Stalking can mean writing obsessive fan letters
and then showing up at the celeb's Los Angeles home out of the blue.
Stalking can mean trying to sell drugs to the star. Want to know
which of those circumstances match the following celebs ?
Luke Perry
Kathy Griffin (best known for "Suddenly Susan" -- Brooke Shields
attended her wedding.)
Johnny Carson
Humphrey Bogart (Well, he didn't marry a stalker, but he had gay
experiences with men who stalked him after getting contact info from
Howard Hughes.) Now back to marriages:
Robert Cummings (best remembered for the Hitchcock film "Dial M For
Murder" and a black & white sitcom that gave homely Ann B. Davis her
big break in show biz.)
Dorothy Dandridge
Janis Joplin (Shortly before she died she discussed wedding plans
with a stalker named Seth Morgan. She wanted only one reporter to
attend -- someone from Time magazine. Morgan later served a prison
sentence for armed robbery and died when he drove his motorcycle drunk
and stoned. His female passenger died, too.)
Can anyone add to the list ? Afraid ? Don't worry, we only have a
problem if the stalker gets rejected and then persists.
PScan16416
>problem if the stalker gets rejected and then persists.
Don't know if this qualifies as stalking but Brigitte Nielsen sent a nude
picture of herself to Sylvester Stallone's hotel room and he then called her.
Gulffritallary
>problem if the stalker gets rejected and then persists.
>
Robert Blake married Bonnie - she pursued him and other celebrities.
Lemonbleu
>problem if the stalker gets rejected and then persists.
>
Robert Blake married Bonnie - she pursued him and other celebrities.
>>
Pam Anderson married Tommy Lee without ever dating him, even tho' he kept
asking her out.. he follwed her to a beach resort one weekend and they were
both drunk and they married the same weekend...
oh and never use the IMDB as a source...it sucks.
LB
SusanK92
he just went thru a divorce about a year ago with his stalker ex-wife, who
finally got to sink her teeth into in the produce aisle at the local.
Wee Bit Strange
> >Can anyone add to the list ? Afraid ? Don't worry, we only have a
> >problem if the stalker gets rejected and then persists.
> >
>
> Robert Blake married Bonnie - she pursued him and other celebrities.
Michael Douglas *set out* to meet, woo and marry CZT. Does that count,
or do they have to be "nobodies"?
--Amy
I'm sure "The In-Laws" could relegate Michael Douglas to "nobody"
status.
samantha1170
something similar) and changed the nametags on the table so she could be
seated next to him?
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AMEN! You are so right on this point.
John
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> LB
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From: wee_bit...@yahoo.com (Wee Bit Strange)
Date: Thu, May 15, 2003 11:01 PM
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gulffri...@aol.com (Gulffritallary) wrote in message
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> >Can anyone add to the list ? Afraid ? Don't worry, we only have a
> >problem if the stalker gets rejected and then persists.
> >
>
> Robert Blake married Bonnie - she pursued him and other celebrities.
Michael Douglas *set out* to meet, woo and marry CZT. Does that count,
or do they have to be "nobodies"? >>
Same goes for Tom Cruise, who saw Penelope Cruz in the Spanish version of
'Vanilla Sky' and insisted she play oposite him in the movie, then dumped
Nicole so he could date PC. He had never met her, just saw her in a movie.
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order to meet her.
Gulffritallary
>although not a true stalker, an argument could be made for Yoko On
Also, wasn't Linda McCartney a groupie?
i hate rednecks
i hate rednecks
leave George.
MC
gulffri...@aol.com (Gulffritallary) wrote:
> >
> >although not a true stalker, an argument could be made for Yoko On
>
> Also, wasn't Linda McCartney a groupie?
Not really... she certainly hung around a lot of rock musicians, but she
was a fairly bona fide photojournalist and they were her subject -- so
it's hardly suprising that she ended up in bed with some of them. But I
don't believe any of them ever considered her a groupie.
The big canard at the time was that she was somehow connected with
Kodak: Eastman - > Eastman Kodak, a lot of people made the connection.
But it was completely erroneous.
MC
"i hate rednecks" <ultima...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Eric Clapton with Patty Boyd Harrison. Wrote a song for her persued her to
> leave George.
>
>
Does anyone have a link to a *recent* photo of her? I'm curious to see
what the years have done to her -- she was irresistible in her 20s, but
a face like that -- well, how does it look in her 50s?
i hate rednecks
MC
"i hate rednecks" <ultima...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Wasn't her father a Wall st lawyer or something like that?
Coiuld you quote back at least part of the post you're replying to? That
we'll have a clue what you're talking about.
i hate rednecks
MC
"i hate rednecks" <ultima...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, was referring to Linda Eastman McCartney
I thought you must be -- yes, her father was a big shot lawyer -- and he
ended up handling some part of the Beatles empire if memory serves.
Nancy Young
> Same goes for Tom Cruise, who saw Penelope Cruz in the Spanish version of
> 'Vanilla Sky' and insisted she play oposite him in the movie, then dumped
> Nicole so he could date PC. He had never met her, just saw her in a movie.
He did the same think with Nicole, he saw her in ? Dead Calm and
arranged to have her in his next movie (don't know which one, maybe
the one with car racing). Dumped Mimi.
nancy
KL
Wasn't there also talk of Tea Leoni pursuing David Duchovny?
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AngrieWoman
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> although not a true stalker, an argument could be made for Yoko Ono.
>
Linda McCartney.
A
>
AngrieWoman
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> Gary "Cars" Numan married a fan, can't say how obsessed she was.
One of the Bay City Rollers, Ian Mitchell, married a fan.
A
parismom
they first met during auditions for guest spots on the tonight show. he
thought she talked way to much.
who knew?..lol
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"Lisa Pease" <bucke...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Many celebs qualify as celebs who married their stalkers. Here's how
> I define stalking. It can mean your sister cozying up to the celeb on
> an airplane flight.
If that makes your list of stalking, what DOESN'T meet the qualifications?
This seems like the way a lot of people meet -- friend-of-a-friend type
thing.
> Stalking can mean trying to sell drugs to the star.
This is merely a business relationship.
Hell Toupee
>
> although not a true stalker, an argument could be made for Yoko Ono.
She most certainly was. Read about how she harassed and pursued John
for months, even flinging herself into a limo he'd gotten into. And
hanging about his house for days on end, showing up at his door asking
for a glass of water, then 'accidentally' leaving something behind so
she had an excuse to return and get back inside, mailing him a broken
piece of teacup painted red inside a tampon box, sending him rambling
letters begging for support and threatening to kill herself, pestering
his friends while trying to get at him...my god. She fit the stalker
profile perfectly.
And she first tried to get at Paul, who cleverly fobbed her off onto
John after she showed up at Paul's door with a story about looking for
original music manuscripts to use as part of her 'art'. Otherwise
history may have been different.
HellT
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True!!!!!!!! I had forgotten about that!
Racine
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> John Stamos saw Rebecca in ads and went to a Victoria Secret modeling show
in
> order to meet her.
>
Bruce Springsteen saw Julianne Phillips in a swimsuit mag and arranged for
his PR people to call her up.
Sheena Easton supposedly sent nude pictures of herself to Peter Jennings.
He declined.
Billy Joel arranges his PR people to scout out the beautiful girls and
offers them front row tickets to his concerts. And backstage passes. How
desperate.
Racine
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And Linda McCartney. She was a groupie.
>
>
Racine
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>
> The big canard at the time was that she was somehow connected with
> Kodak: Eastman - > Eastman Kodak, a lot of people made the connection.
> But it was completely erroneous.
Not that she bothered to correct them.
But Linda did come from *wealth*.
Ditto Carly Simon.
Racine
> >
> > although not a true stalker, an argument could be made for Yoko Ono.
>
> She most certainly was.
I heard it was Lennon who pursued her.
Kept going to her art shows.
piscesrr
Sly Stallone (Brigit Nilson (sp?))
RainbowBooty
pursued Prince by sending him videos of her teenaged daughter Mayte
belly dancing. Mayte's mother later showed up at a Prince show with
Mayte in tow. At the concert, Mayte's beauty and her mother's pushing
got them backstage for an introduction.
Prince dated Mayte, gave a her gig as dancer in his band and later
married her. They are now divorced, and Mayte quickly landed another
celeb meal ticket -- Pamela Anderson ex-husband Tommy Lee. Prince is
now allegedly married to a fan from Canada, named Manuela Testolini.
Sara
She did show up in his driveway at some point--I don't know if that was
before or after the art show.
Sara
Linda McCartney may have been attracted to the music scene, but she was
sent to the concerts, parties, etc. on photography assignments by
publications. She hardly fits the groupie or stalker profile. In
addition, Paul McCartney made an effort to meet her first, and pursued
her after that.
>
>
>>
>>
SandraW9
>>
>>And Linda McCartney. She was a groupie.
>>
>Linda McCartney may have been attracted to the music scene, but she was
>sent to the concerts, parties, etc. on photography assignments by
>publications. She hardly fits the groupie or stalker profile. In
>addition, Paul McCartney made an effort to meet her first, and pursued
>her after that.
>
>>
>>
aleen
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Racine
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> >>
> >>
> From what I understand, she was a groupie with a camera.
Bingo.
Her actual talent was and is still up for debate.
As a photographer and as a groupie.
robbielynn
Sounds like an "artistic" stalker to me. I knew she was not shy
but damn if she wasn't outrageous in her pursuit of John. But
John evidently dug it.
MC
<jFexa.86273$cO3.5...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Racine" <raci...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Her actual talent was and is still up for debate.
> As a photographer and as a groupie.
I just happened to see a book of her 60s photgraphs the other day --
pretty much every music star from that era that I'd ever heard of, and I
thought her work was pretty good. Not the best I've seen, but a lng way
from the worst. And the sheer volume of it indicated (to me at least)
that she wasn't just dabbling.
nimue
I don't understand why people cannot see what Linda McCartney really was --
a loving, supportive wife and mother. We should all be as lucky as Paul
was. Obviously the relationship brought out the best in him -- during all
his years with her he was productive, creative, and happy. They raised
functional, decent kids. Why do people dislike her so much? I don't get
it -- the marriage between the two was obviously a success, obviously
brought joy to both of them and their children -- and people are still
calling her a groupie? Please.
--
nimue
"There are things I will not tolerate: students loitering on campus
after school, horrible murders with hearts being removed... and also
smoking." Principal Snyder
Sara
So who do you know she slept with?
Sara
ITA--I think she was very talented as far as photography went. Besides,
since when did Rolling Stone, etc. pay regular groupies for their
photography?
Marianna Trench
>He declined.
>
Ever have a moment when you couldn't decide whether to laugh or vomit? This is
one of those.
Marianna
"In the long run, the greatest weapon of mass destruction is stupidity"
-Thomas Sowell
Richard
"Sara" <safra...@rr.com> wrote in message > >
> >>
> >
> >I just happened to see a book of her 60s photgraphs the other day --
> >pretty much every music star from that era that I'd ever heard of, and I
> >thought her work was pretty good. Not the best I've seen, but a lng way
> >from the worst. And the sheer volume of it indicated (to me at least)
> >that she wasn't just dabbling.
> >
> >
> ITA--I think she was very talented as far as photography went. Besides,
> since when did Rolling Stone, etc. pay regular groupies for their
> photography?
>
If anyone is in, or visiting Phoenix, her photos are on exhibit currently at
the Phoenix main library until the end of the month.
Wee Bit Strange
No one probably knows who he is... but Simon, the yummy basist from
the Cure, married his "devoted fan"/stalker. Her name was Sarah, she
followed the band around to their different venues, met him and got
him to marry her.
After he left his wife and mother of his children, that is. ;-)
--Amy
Rock stars is so cool, man.
Hal Horn
> Robert Cummings (best remembered for the Hitchcock film "Dial M For
> Murder" and a black & white sitcom that gave homely Ann B. Davis her
> big break in show biz.)
>
That would be "Love That Bob" aka "The Bob Cummings Show" which
ran from 1955 to 1959 and was rerun for quite awhile (also on CBN in the
1980's). I'd say he's also well known for "King's Row" and for another
Hitchcock classic, "Saboteur".
BTW, it was more than just a 'big break' for Ann B.....she won 2 Emmy
Awards for her portrayal of Schultzy on the show.
HCH
Tina
>Bruce Springsteen saw Julianne Phillips in a swimsuit mag and arranged for
>his PR people to call her up.
Look how well that turned out for him too.
SandraW9
>> Her actual talent was and is still up for debate.
>> As a photographer and as a groupie.
>
>I just happened to see a book of her 60s photgraphs the other day --
>pretty much every music star from that era that I'd ever heard of, and I
>thought her work was pretty good. Not the best I've seen, but a lng way
>from the worst. And the sheer volume of it indicated (to me at least)
>that she wasn't just dabbling.
>
>
I do believe she was very interested in photography. She initially started by
taking nature pictures in New Mexico during her first marriage. But I also
don't believe she went to the parties and concerts on specific photo shoots.
Linda herself said she was a huge fan of the music (and subsequently the music
scene) since she was turned on through a radio show when she was 12.
SandraW9
>I don't understand why people cannot see what Linda McCartney really was --
>a loving, supportive wife and mother. We should all be as lucky as Paul
>was. Obviously the relationship brought out the best in him -- during all
>his years with her he was productive, creative, and happy. They raised
>functional, decent kids. Why do people dislike her so much? I don't get
>it -- the marriage between the two was obviously a success, obviously
>brought joy to both of them and their children -- and people are still
>calling her a groupie? Please.
>--
>nimue
>
>
I never said she wasn't a loving caring wife and mother. We are talking about
her pre-Paul, and also how they met. Why is their so much negativity towards
ALL groupies. Most of them, yes probably do deserve to be dismissed but I
wouldn't generalize.
SandraW9
>>>>
>>From what I understand, she was a groupie with a camera.
>>
>>
>So who do you know she slept with?
>
>
Are all groupies successful?
I recall Paul & Linda's interview with Tom Snyder from the "Tomorrow" show.
Her listing all the names of the men in Rock n Roll she met and had been
"interested" in. (They were both smiling and giggling through this interview -
of course it could have been the weed.) And Tom Snyder asked Paul if he had
any problems with what Linda had said and he then said (and come to think of it
he brought it up in many interviews after), that one of the reasons why he
thought they had a lasting marriage is because they both went through all their
"wildness" prior to their marriage.
Sara
We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think Linda McCartney
qualifies as either a stalker or a groupie. I remember an interview
when Paul said he met her when he saw her in a restaurant and went out
of his way to meet her. Stalking? Groupies to me are people who live to
be with the object of their admiration (rock stars, sports stars,
whatever). Linda McCartney had a career, interests, a daughter. She
specialized in taking photographs of musicians. And she may have even
dated some. Paul also said in an interview that the reason he was
attracted to Linda was because she was mature and had her own life. I
think it makes people feel better to believe she was a groupie who went
after Paul--but I don't believe that was the reality their relationship.
nimue
mean -- I know the Cure, but not their bassist. Anyway, I thought GN had
some really cool music. However, I have heard he is a totally wacko
fascist, so....
> --Amy
> Rock stars is so cool, man.
--
nimue
> Sly Stallone (Brigit Nilson (sp?))
Oh, yes. I was going to post that. Brigitte Nielson sent Sly naked
pictures of herself. She pursued him, got him, dumped him. She's a strange
one, and looks pretty ragged now.
SandraW9
>>
>We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think Linda McCartney
>qualifies as either a stalker or a groupie. I remember an interview
>when Paul said he met her when he saw her in a restaurant and went out
>of his way to meet her. Stalking? Groupies to me are people who live to
>be with the object of their admiration (rock stars, sports stars,
>whatever). Linda McCartney had a career, interests, a daughter. She
>specialized in taking photographs of musicians. And she may have even
>dated some. Paul also said in an interview that the reason he was
>attracted to Linda was because she was mature and had her own life. I
>think it makes people feel better to believe she was a groupie who went
>after Paul--but I don't believe that was the reality their relationship.
>
>
>
>
enjoyed the music scene. She just balanced it with raising a child. She once
remarked that Heather had had some very interesting babysitters. She had said
their were people she was seeing at the time. At one time it was, I believe,
David Crosby, she asked him to watch her daughter, HEather, while she went on a
photo shoot. SHe did the best she could at the time.
I've read several interviews with Paul and Linda and they both have said they
met at a London club. I forget the name but it was a very popular club in
London at the time.
PScan16416
>Kodak: Eastman - > Eastman Kodak, a lot of people made the connection.
>But it was completely erroneous.
>
Right--classic Urban Legend.
PScan16416
>she had an excuse to return and get back inside,
Crap! That never works for me...
> mailing him a broken
>piece of teacup painted red inside a tampon box
uh that was her "art".
PScan16416
>>problem if the stalker gets rejected and then persists.
>
I remember reading an article 15 or so years ago in McCalls Magazine where they
were telling about stars that married fans that pursued them and actually gave
the readers tips on doing it. I wish I kept it because before anti-stalking
laws-- it was priceless. I know one of the examples they gave was the actor
Kevin McCarthy (kind of old Hollywood). He was in a play in NY and a fan wrote
him a long letter...he described it as reading someone's personal diary--he
called her and she became his last wife.
PScan16416
>>>problem if the stalker gets rejected and then persists.
>>
Didn't Rush Limbaugh marry someone that use to follow him in a chat room?
Correct me if I am wrong-I'm sure someone will. :-)
TMorri9898
>> As a photographer and as a groupie.
I went to an exhibit of her work a couple of years ago at a local art museum.
It was competent, but not memorable.
Jenn
No.
Lisa Pease
Ann lived in a Denver, Colorado group home of charity - giving Born -
Again Christians in 1989 when Bob, still in the San Fernando Valley,
married the Kentucky woman whom he had "met" via a fan letter. Ann
may or may not have known that her old colleague was that lonely.
After he died one year later she remembered him fondly in newspaper
interviews. Cummings was a health-food enthusiast who didn't smoke or
drink.
>
> HCH
Racine
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> > Gary "Cars" Numan married a fan, can't say how obsessed she was.
>
> No one probably knows who he is... but Simon, the yummy basist from
> the Cure, married his "devoted fan"/stalker.
Oh, that reminds me that Springsteen the "stalker" also was "stalked"
by Winona Ryder. She kept calling him up, showing up at his gigs, etc.
He declined.
Ryder also stalked Paul Westerberg (sp)? of the Replacements
in the exact same way. He also declined. (I love that Paul).
Supposedly Ryder has stalked a whole slew of musicians.
With a mixture of both sucess and repulsion.
Eh, you win some you lose some.
Lisa Pease
> These posts are CREEPING ME OUT!! Anyone else? Yikes!
Me, too. What is scary is that successful stalking probably is going
on now despite the increase in restraining orders. If the celebrity
likes the approach, what is the LAPD Threat Management Unit going to
do about it ? The successful stalker tells family members and old
friends about his or her victory and the word spreads until a nutcase
demands equal rights.
Also, how can famous actors possibly read a fan letter that they end
up liking ? That detail is the same in two articles on Luke Perry:
one in the Montreal Gazette in 1993 and the other in Star from two
weeks ago. They differ on what his wife-to-be Minnie did after
mailing dozens of letters in 1991. She either showed up at his
doorstep in Los Angeles out-of-the-blue or he called her at the phone
number in her letters. But the articles agree that the whole thing
started with obsessive fan letters.
I wonder what address Minnie wrote to. Hard to imagine it was Luke
Perry c/o Fox Television, etc. That would be impossible because you
hear so many producers say their careers started in the mailroom.
SOMEBODY has the thankless job of sorting through bundles of mindless
crap. Does a latter-day hunk in a female - dominated soap like
Dawson's Creek read fan letters addressed to the WB Network ? Did
Josh Jackson meet the people with whom he tussled at a hockey game
through fan mail addressed to JJ, WB Network ? If not, that makes you
wonder what Minnie Sharp Perry did to get Luke's address. The Threat
Management Unit can't help Luke now in his divorce settlement no
matter how ugly it gets. Nearly ten years ago he said "I do" and
signed documents. Too bad.
>
> aleen the karaoke queen
>
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> > > John Stamos saw Rebecca in ads and went to a Victoria Secret modeling
> show
> in
> > > order to meet her.
> > >
> >
> > Bruce Springsteen saw Julianne Phillips in a swimsuit mag and arranged for
> > his PR people to call her up.
> >
> > Sheena Easton supposedly sent nude pictures of herself to Peter Jennings.
> > He declined.
> >
> > Billy Joel arranges his PR people to scout out the beautiful girls and
> > offers them front row tickets to his concerts. And backstage passes. How
> > desperate.
> >
> >
> >
> >
Lisa Pease
> How did Luke Perry's wife stalk him? Just curious.
In 1991, the year that he and 90210 first became famous, one Minnie
Sharp wrote obsessive fan letters that Mr. Perry somehow received. A
1993 Montreal Gazette article on their wedding said he called the
phone number she included in her letters and that she enclosed her bra
once. Two weeks ago Star magazine said she showed up at his Los
Angeles doorstep out-of-the-blue. Instead of calling the cops, he
invited her in. Both articles agree that it all started with the many
obsessive fan letters. What did Minnie do for a living when she
invested in all that postage ? The Gazette called her a "part - time
furniture saleswoman."
My guess is that the Star is right: Minnie did show up out-of-the-blue
and Luke briefly considered calling the cops, then relented. The 1993
Gazette article bylined Doug Camilli probably fudged the truth or
accepted the usual bullshit from Mr. Perry's publicist. If you were a
Canadian newspaper writer announcing the nuptials of a twentysomething
American soap opera hunk, would you doubt what the publicist says ?
Consider that the "trendy L.A. eatery Pinot Bistro," site of the
ceremony, was the focus of the quickie column item.
Neither the Gazette nor the Star has disclosed the address to which
22-year-old Minnie sent her obsessive letters in 1991. If it was Luke
Perry c/o Fox Television, etc., then how do those mailroom people earn
an honest living ? Is Josh Jackson reading bundles of stuff
addressed to JJ c/o WB Network ? Do his fellow hockey fans contact
him like that ? If so, they'd better stop. Josh said on "The Daily
Show" Tuesday that he's vacationing for the summer and then job
hunting. He can look forward to a Dawson's Creek ten-year high school
reunion ... . Minnie dumped Luke just a few days after he videotaped
his "reunion."
Sophie
"Lisa Pease" <bucke...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> his "reunion."
She dumped him? Do we know why?
parismom
she, herself, was "pursued aggressively" by david duchovny after they
had a date or two. he was absolutely over the edge for her to the point
that he would call her from the sound stage and mope when she wouldn't
take his calls. finally, she called his agent and asked that she
intercede and tell him that she "just wasn't interested".
source: a woman who worked on the set during their last year in
vancouver.
--
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2. If something's wrong, and it can be fixed with money, it's not *that*
bad.
3. You can't go wrong doing the right thing.
Sara
>Racine wrote:
>
>
>>"Wee Bit Strange" <wee_bit...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:29db2d75.03051...@posting.google.com...
>>
>>
>>>>Gary "Cars" Numan married a fan, can't say how obsessed she was.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>No one probably knows who he is... but Simon, the yummy basist from
>>>the Cure, married his "devoted fan"/stalker.
>>>
>>>
>>Oh, that reminds me that Springsteen the "stalker" also was "stalked"
>>by Winona Ryder. She kept calling him up, showing up at his gigs, etc.
>>He declined.
>>
>>Ryder also stalked Paul Westerberg (sp)? of the Replacements
>>in the exact same way. He also declined. (I love that Paul).
>>
>>Supposedly Ryder has stalked a whole slew of musicians.
>>With a mixture of both sucess and repulsion.
>>Eh, you win some you lose some.
>>
>>
>
>she, herself, was "pursued aggressively" by david duchovny after they
>had a date or two. he was absolutely over the edge for her to the point
>that he would call her from the sound stage and mope when she wouldn't
>take his calls. finally, she called his agent and asked that she
>intercede and tell him that she "just wasn't interested".
>
>source: a woman who worked on the set during their last year in
>vancouver.
>
>
I'm wondering why stalking is the term used in this thread? Most of the
behavior here sounds like pursuing (romantically or otherwise).
Stalking is a legal offense that involves threatening behavior and the
"stalkee" fearing for his/her safety or being bodily harmed. Stalking
is a whole lot scarier than being romantically pursued, which ranges
from being enjoyable to annoying.
E Varden
>
.
.
.
.
> Oh, that reminds me that Springsteen the "stalker" also was "stalked"
> by Winona Ryder. She kept calling him up, showing up at his gigs, etc.
> He declined.
>
> Ryder also stalked Paul Westerberg (sp)? of the Replacements
> in the exact same way. He also declined. (I love that Paul).
>
> Supposedly Ryder has stalked a whole slew of musicians.
> With a mixture of both sucess and repulsion.
> Eh, you win some you lose some.
She's a tired Hollywood joke. It sems every new uppen-coming H'wood
actor climbs on and Rides'er, as a rite of passage, as it were.
She's a flat-backing Welcome Wagon who clearly has serious problems
in the head.
-- Speaking of desperate...
Pe (I wouldn't do her with someone else's dick; I've had experience
with loons before, YEEEAAAaaa!)
Wee Bit Strange
> >
> > No one probably knows who he is... but Simon, the yummy basist from
> > the Cure, married his "devoted fan"/stalker. Her name was Sarah, she
> > followed the band around to their different venues, met him and got
> > him to marry her.
> >
> > After he left his wife and mother of his children, that is. ;-)
> >
> I know who Gary Numan (sp?) is. I don't know who the Cure guy is -- I
> mean -- I know the Cure, but not their bassist.
Nah, I meant no one would know who Simon Gallup was.
I'll assume most folks might remember Gary Numan.
--Amy
Amanda
"SandraW9" <sand...@aol.comeagain> wrote in message
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Paul met Linda in May 1967 in a club called Bag O'Nails
More information here -
http://www.twbookmark.com/books/16/0821227939/chapter_excerpt15634.html
Amanda
vector
> If not, that makes you
>wonder what Minnie Sharp Perry did to get Luke's address.
Possibly out of the phone book? Some seem to be listed.
vector (listed) jones
samantha1170
married to Mimi Rogers - he saw Nicole in Dead Calm, wanted her for the role
in Days of Thunder, and the rest is history...
SAMANTHA
> Same goes for Tom Cruise, who saw Penelope Cruz in the Spanish version of
> 'Vanilla Sky' and insisted she play oposite him in the movie, then dumped
> Nicole so he could date PC. He had never met her, just saw her in a movie.
>
samantha1170
SAMANTHA
"Gulffritallary" <gulffri...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >although not a true stalker, an argument could be made for Yoko On
>
> Also, wasn't Linda McCartney a groupie?
>
samantha1170
he met and before that they had all 'been girls' - I think she did a great
job being his wife and bringing up their children to be very down to earth
etc.
SAMANTHA
"SandraW9" <sand...@aol.comeagain> wrote in message
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PScan16416
There use to be a book out called The Address Book that gave home addresses of
many celebs and not just agencies or management office addresses. Is still
being published? I have a couple of them from the mid 90's.
vector
>I'm wondering why stalking is the term used in this thread? Most of the
>behavior here sounds like pursuing (romantically or otherwise).
> Stalking is a legal offense that involves threatening behavior and the
>"stalkee" fearing for his/her safety or being bodily harmed. Stalking
>is a whole lot scarier than being romantically pursued, which ranges
>from being enjoyable to annoying.
Agree, but sometimes seems like a very fine line between the two.
vector (non-stalker) jones
vector
wrote:
>Oh, that reminds me that Springsteen the "stalker" also was "stalked"
>by Winona Ryder. She kept calling him up, showing up at his gigs, etc.
>He declined.
>
>Ryder also stalked Paul Westerberg (sp)? of the Replacements
>in the exact same way. He also declined. (I love that Paul).
>
>Supposedly Ryder has stalked a whole slew of musicians.
>With a mixture of both sucess and repulsion.
>Eh, you win some you lose some.
Hmmmmmmmm? *grin*
vector (thinking about starting a band) jones
vector
>"i hate rednecks" <ultima...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<ba33j7$ka1$1...@news1.mountaincable.net>...
>> "Hell Toupee" <my...@notmine.com> wrote in message
>> news:3EC510A1...@notmine.com...
>> > > although not a true stalker, an argument could be made for Yoko Ono.
>> >
>> > She most certainly was. Read about how she harassed and pursued John
>> > for months, even flinging herself into a limo he'd gotten into. And
>> > hanging about his house for days on end, showing up at his door asking
>> > for a glass of water, then 'accidentally' leaving something behind so
>> > she had an excuse to return and get back inside, mailing him a broken
>> > piece of teacup painted red inside a tampon box, sending him rambling
>> > letters begging for support and threatening to kill herself, pestering
>> > his friends while trying to get at him...my god. She fit the stalker
>> > profile perfectly.
>> >
>Sounds like an "artistic" stalker to me. I knew she was not shy
>but damn if she wasn't outrageous in her pursuit of John. But
>John evidently dug it.
That seems to be the key, some people like it.
vector (pondering) jones
SandraW9
>
>Paul met Linda in May 1967 in a club called Bag O'Nails
>
>More information here -
>http://www.twbookmark.com/books/16/0821227939/chapter_excerpt15634.html
>
>Amanda
>
>
That's it! Thanks, Amanda.
vector
>MC wrote:
>> "Racine" <raci...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>>Her actual talent was and is still up for debate.
>>>As a photographer and as a groupie.
>>pretty much every music star from that era that I'd ever heard of, and I
>>thought her work was pretty good. Not the best I've seen, but a lng way
>>from the worst. And the sheer volume of it indicated (to me at least)
>>that she wasn't just dabbling.
>>
>ITA--I think she was very talented as far as photography went. Besides,
>since when did Rolling Stone, etc. pay regular groupies for their
>photography?
Groupie or not? I don't know, but one could be both a talented photographer
and a groupie/stalker.
vector (can take pictures, does that count?) jones
vector
>We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think Linda McCartney
>qualifies as either a stalker or a groupie. I remember an interview
>when Paul said he met her when he saw her in a restaurant and went out
>of his way to meet her. Stalking? Groupies to me are people who live to
>be with the object of their admiration (rock stars, sports stars,
>whatever). Linda McCartney had a career, interests, a daughter. She
>specialized in taking photographs of musicians. And she may have even
>dated some. Paul also said in an interview that the reason he was
>attracted to Linda was because she was mature and had her own life. I
>think it makes people feel better to believe she was a groupie who went
>after Paul--but I don't believe that was the reality their relationship.
Does it really matter either way,
for in real life, there is no black or white,
just various shades of gray.
vector (another 1/2 cent) jones
---
"In religion, just because it talks like a duck,
doesn't mean it's a duck"
Stormstruck
> Can anyone add to the list ? Afraid ? Don't worry, we only have a
> problem if the stalker gets rejected and then persists.
The blonde ABBA girl married her stalker.
MC
sand...@aol.comeagain (SandraW9) wrote:
> >Paul met Linda in May 1967 in a club called Bag O'Nails
Hence the expression, "What kind of a nailhouse do you call this?"
Sara
Yeah--thanks Amanda. The incident I described--how he went after *her*
and not vice versa, was in that book:
I met Linda in May 1967 in a club called Bag O'Nails. It was my regular
haunt after I'd finished working. She was over in London to shoot some
photos and had gone down there with Eric Burdon and the Animals, friends
of mine. I was in my normal alcove and they were just over to the left,
and playing that night was Georgie Fame and the Blue Flames, one of the
good bands. And I just looked over, saw her and there was an immediate
attraction. So I did what I didn't normally do -- I stood up and said,
'Oh, hi, my name's Paul, what's yours?' Then I had to say something
else, so I said, 'We're going on to another club, would you like to join
us?' We went on to the Speakeasy and heard A Whiter Shade of Pale for
the first time. It became 'our song', because we heard it together that
night.
Lisa Pease
No. The only way we might ever know is if Jeremiah gets more
newspaper attention. You have to subscribe to Showtime in order to
watch it. You can buy some DVD's, but who's going to do that unless
they've already seen the series on Showtime ? You might think that
all the media coverage of Jason Priestley's accident -- including his
friendly chat with Barbara Walters five months after it happened --
motivates some journalist to dig into HIS strange marriage. But it
doesn't provide that motivation. Instead, newspaper entertainment
writers will keep dismissing Luke and Jason as aging hunks living off
the fame of a stupid soap opera. And you'll get the occasional
paragraph in the National Enquirer about Luke rescuing someone's dog
from death while he walks across Sunset Blvd.
One more indie film that Jason made before the accident remains in the
can waiting for release. He plays the boyfriend of a middle-aged
woman portrayed by Charles Busch, a gay actor in drag. What are the
chances that that will draw crowds when it plays the travelling
Sundance Film Festival in the fall ? Like zilch. So Jason and Luke
will be getting some privacy. As for Luke's choice of projects, you
will note on his IMDB page that *after* he joined 90210 *for the
second time* he agreed to play a supporting role in something called
"Attention Shoppers." Maybe nobody saw it because ... it stinks ?
Lisa Pease
Is he Swedish ? Maybe Swedes have a totally different attitude toward
their entertainers. Greta Garbo never went back there to visit. She
wasn't as hostile to strangers on Manhattan sidewalks as writers say
she was. She once went by herself to see Lily Tomlin on Broadway in
"The Search For Signs Of Intelligent Life In The Universe."
Miss Problem Lady
> > John Stamos saw Rebecca in ads and went to a Victoria Secret modeling show
> in
> > order to meet her.
> >
>
> Bruce Springsteen saw Julianne Phillips in a swimsuit mag and arranged for
> his PR people to call her up.
>
> Sheena Easton supposedly sent nude pictures of herself to Peter Jennings.
> He declined.
>
> Billy Joel arranges his PR people to scout out the beautiful girls and
> offers them front row tickets to his concerts. And backstage passes. How
> desperate.
These things are not stalking. Many of the things cited in this topic
are not stalking.
People can still attempt to make contact with other people in this
world. Asking somebody you don't know for a date, even through your
"people," is pretty common in LaLa Land. It only becomes stalking if
you persist after the other person has said no. Even then, not
everyone who asks for a date after they've been turned down is a
stalker. They have to be persistent in a way that makes the object of
their attention feel that they are in danger.
The original poster, Lisa Pease, said, "Don't worry, we only have a
problem if the stalker gets rejected and then persists." Well, yeah.
That is the definition of a stalker.
To call other people who are just asking for dates stalkers is to
water down the word stalker and muddy what stalkers really do, which
is find a prey and stalk that prey obsessively.
Groupies are not stalkers, either (at least, not by definition, though
some could be). :-p
Racine
"Miss Problem Lady" <misspro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Groupies are not stalkers, either (at least, not by definition, though
> some could be). :-p
I know what you mean. That's why further down the thread I put the word in
quotations.
But the line between being aggressive, being slow to take the hint, and
actual stalking is blurry.
I think Ryder did stalk Springsteen and Westerburg because even after they
repeatedly
told her they weren't interested, she kept pursuing them. Showing up in
concerts,
muscling her way backstage. Now is that stalking or is that being
persistently aggresive?
Throw Bebe in there too when she kept showing up at Costello's concerts and
backstage
uninvited and unwanted.
samantha1170
SAMANTHA
"Racine" <raci...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Jenn
> >had a date or two. he was absolutely over the edge for her to the point
> >that he would call her from the sound stage and mope when she wouldn't
> >take his calls. finally, she called his agent and asked that she
> >intercede and tell him that she "just wasn't interested".
> >
> >source: a woman who worked on the set during their last year in
> >vancouver.
Sounds like total BS to me. Duchovny was married in May '97. The
last year of the show in Vancouver was the '97-'98 season. Why would
he be aggressively pursuing anyone if he was a married man?
samantha1170
MC
"samantha1170" <samant...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Didn't Sean Young say James Wood stalked her at some point early in the 90s?
Pot -> Kettle -> Black
Miss Problem Lady
Definitely, the line is blurry. Ryder was really pushing it there.
Hard to say if it was stalking. I think it would depend on how often
she showed up and how she acted. And whether Springsteen and
Westerberg felt scared. I think she could probably act pretty scary.
About Bebe Buell, was that before they were together, or after they
broke up? If after they broke up, yeah, I'd say it was stalking. If
before...well, ultimately, I guess it wasn't unwanted. I mean, if she
just showed up uninvited, but didn't do anything alarming, I'd just
say she was acting like a groupie. She must have done something to
make herself wanted if they got together, right?
Racine
"Miss Problem Lady" <misspro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> broke up?
After. Costello made it clear that she was just a one night stand and
that he was back with his wife.
PScan16416
>
ROTHFLMAO! Nope, the other way around.
Kenji
> >
> > although not a true stalker, an argument could be made for Yoko Ono.
>
> She most certainly was. Read about how she harassed and pursued John
> for months, even flinging herself into a limo he'd gotten into. And
> hanging about his house for days on end, showing up at his door asking
> for a glass of water, then 'accidentally' leaving something behind so
> she had an excuse to return and get back inside, mailing him a broken
> piece of teacup painted red inside a tampon box, sending him rambling
> letters begging for support and threatening to kill herself, pestering
> his friends while trying to get at him...my god. She fit the stalker
> profile perfectly.
>
> John after she showed up at Paul's door with a story about looking for
> original music manuscripts to use as part of her 'art'. Otherwise
> history may have been different.
>
> HellT
Yoko sure was a stalker. BTW, your knowledge of Yoko's pursuit
of Lennon is impressive.