The cause of democracy is a good cause. It's a great cause. In fact, it's the best cause there is. We're talking about here is the difference between FREEDOM & SLAVERY, between GOOD & EVIL, between PROSPERITY & POVERTY, between HEAVEN & HELL.
Abel
it's the best cause there is. We're talking about here is the
difference between FREEDOM & SLAVERY, between GOOD & EVIL, between
PROSPERITY & POVERTY, between HEAVEN & HELL.
Every one of these Middle Eastern countries, they're all the same,
from Libya to Saudi Arabia, and all the rest of them, they are all
EXACTLY the same. It is as if the 5th century torture dungeon culture
of MEDIEVAL Europe never went away, the only difference is that they
moved to the Middle East, and they now use 21st century technology
when they kill and torture their citizens into compliance. And in the
Middle East, they ALL have these HORRIBLE dictators or HORRIBLE Kings,
and they rule with an iron fist, anyone who even remotely hints at any
opposition to their autocratic rule gets eliminated promptly. It is
routine there for anyone who does not make a habit of heaping daily
praise on their dictator to get kidnapped and then beaten/tortured,
whipped to death, have their nails pulled out, their body parts cut
off, e.t.c. To be allowed to live there you should make it a part of
your personality to heap praise upon the DEVIL, every single day,
because that's the only way to guarantee your well being and survival,
and most importantly, to guarantee the well being of all your friends
and relatives too, because when they come after you, they come after
everyone who is related to you and who you know too.
Every one of these dictators operate by the same EXACT rule book, it's
as if they get together regularly and share notes, on how best to
terrorize their citizens into compliance. They've got it down to a
science. Surveys show that most people, where ever they are, are not
really afraid of dying, what they are afraid of is the pain involved
in dying. That is why these governments go out of their way to not
only kill the people who oppose them, but to inflict the maximum pain
possible while they kill them, i.e. torture, and then the person
disappears. In every single one of these Islamic countries, from
Saudi Arabia, to Algeria, to Yemen, and you name it, all of their
citizens are required to have framed pictures of their dictators
displayed prominently in their homes (usually in the living room), to
make it seem like they support that dictator - or else. It is
difficult to confide in people there, because an atmosphere of fear
runs deep and wide, an atmosphere that is countenanced by the State.
But once in a rare while you stumble upon a frank individual, and it
is refreshing when you come across such a frank individual, they will
tell you how bad it really is, and how wrong and destructive their
government really is, frank individuals like that do not live long,
sooner or later they end up disappearing.
But something has happened to change all this lately. Like a fierce
strom, the winds of freedom are blowing thru out the Middle East, and
it will not let up. Apparently, the people there have come to the
realization that they must all rise up together, against their
tyranical governments, all together, all at once, otherwise they will
be picked off and exterminated, one by one, as has been happening to
them since the dawn of time.
After the successful revolutions of Tunisia and Egypt, the storm would
continue to blow and spread to every single country there. What was
so especially inspiring about Libya is that the people started out
with absolutely nothing except their voice, en masse, as they took to
the street, to demand their universal right to free expression, up
against the most powerful fighting machine in Africa. Pretty soon,
Qaddaffi's own military would show the inclination that they would
rather defect than to shoot at their own people. We would later on
find out that Qaddaffi is hiring foreign mercenaries to do the killing
for him.
If the Libyan dictator had succeeded in squashing the uprising at his
hand, then all those other dictators there would have followed suite,
from Algeria to Jordan, to Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, UAE,
Oman, Syria and then everywhere else. Topping the dictator of China,
who sent military tanks to run over and kill those who were asking for
democracy in 1989 (Google the Tianenmen Square massacre), the dictator
of Libya would top that cruelty by ordering fighter planes to drop
bombs on the unarmed civilians who had gathered on the streets, people
who he referred to as "rats", just because they had the guts to speak
freely and ask for a democracy.
I am happy to see the U.S. intervening in Libya, on behalf of the
freedom loving citizens of Libya. This should add sail to the winds
of democracy that blows thru the region. It would have been a
TERRIBLE message to send to the world, that all a dictator has to do
to stay in power is to just simply exterminate everyone who is alive.
It is a fair criticism to blame America for allowing and even arming
countries who are supposedly our allies, such as Bahrain and Yemen,
who have also brought in mercenaries to militarily massacre their
innocent civilians. In the mean time, let us ponder the merit of
allowing a hopelessly corrupt reprobate, such as the King of Saudi
Arabia, to horde all of the vast oil wealth of that country, and use
it to fund such terrorists as the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, rather than
use that oil wealth to benefit the people of that country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLdJwIM-Sq4
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/03/2011320180579476.html
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Abel
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> If the Libyan dictator had succeeded in squashing the uprising at his
> hand, then all those other dictators there would have followed suite,
> from Algeria to Jordan, to Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, UAE,
> Oman, Syria and then everywhere else. Topping the dictator of China,
> who sent military tanks to run over and kill those who were asking for
> democracy in 1989 (Google the Tianenmen Square massacre), the dictator
> of Libya would top that cruelty by ordering fighter planes to drop
> bombs on the unarmed civilians who had gathered on the streets, people
> who he referred to as "rats", just because they had the guts to speak
> freely and ask for a democracy.
>
> I am happy to see the U.S. intervening in Libya, on behalf of the
> freedom loving citizens of Libya. This should add sail to the winds
> of democracy that blows thru the region. It would have been a
> TERRIBLE message to send to the world, that all a dictator has to do
> to stay in power is to just simply exterminate everyone who is alive.
>
> It is a fair criticism to blame America for allowing and even arming
> countries who are supposedly our allies, such as Bahrain and Yemen,
> who have also brought in mercenaries to militarily massacre their
> innocent civilians. In the mean time, let us ponder the merit of
> allowing a hopelessly corrupt reprobate, such as the King of Saudi
Let's face it, we just got ourselves involved in yet one more war,
over there, in the Middle East. Although, it's very important to note
that there are some major differences between how we got involved in
this war right now (in Libya) and how we got involved in that other
war exactly 8 years ago today (the Iraq war).
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/war-in-iraq-begins
President Obama has decided on a more focused, realistic approach.
He's trying to give the rebels (those who want democracy) a fighting
chance in trying to stop Qaddafi from slaughtering them. Obama is
right to intervene here, he is doing the only humanitarian thing that
can be done. Qaddafi definitely had a hand in the Lockerbie bombing,
Qaddafi has definitely had a hand in supplying weapons and resources
to terrorists. Innocent American citizens were brutally massacred
when that Lockerbie jet was blown clear out of the sky, and that
happened because of Qaddafi's actions. I'm all for this mission.
I think the President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama,
deserves the benefit of the doubt, and our SUPPORT. The key here is
NO GROUND troops, a LIMITED role in scope, and with PLENTY of
international partners who also want to do this and are flying their
jets in there, and staying within the confines of the UN resolutions
(there are a lot of restrictions here, I think it just might work).
This President, President Obama, it is his choice, it is his
leadership. He inherited Iraq, he inherited Afghanistan, and now he
has made a decision to do this. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT QADDAFI IS NOT
KILLING CIVILIANS ANY MORE, President Obama should be given credit for
that. As a country we really don't have much of a stomach for this
right now, and our country is torn, because of what all our needs are
here at home, but remember this, and it needs to be pointed out, NO
LIES HAVE BEEN TOLD, and NO FEAR GAMES HAVE BEEN PLAYED ON THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE, and INTELLIGENCE HAS NOT BEEN COOKED, and WE TRULY DO
HAVE A 'COALITION OF THE WILLING' (in fact the French fighter jets
were the 1st to hit Libya). We are NOT behaving like a bunch of wild
cowboys, going at it alone as we did in Iraq.
I'm an American, you're an American. We all have opinions. I have
ALWAYS believed that Qaddafi is a terrorist, and there's no one who
can dispute the fact that Qaddafi had a hand in the bombing of Pan Am
103, which was blown out of the sky (over Lockerbie, Scotland) on
December 21st of 1988, killing all 190 Americans on board, and also
killing all 43 British citizens on board.
What I think is going to happen here is that Libya will be divided in
2 halves, one of it ruled by Qaddafi, and one of it ruled by those
rebels who want a democracy. And this is all about democracy, this is
all about the struggle for freedom. I'm with the President on this
one. I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
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