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cavey

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Jan 21, 2010, 4:32:28 AM1/21/10
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ah well, looks like its even more quiet now hmmmm...
I really miss the old fun stuff, but I guess nothing last forever
does it, well things a great for me at last, I now have a 4 month old
son, and its made me feel 20 years old again,

If anyone reads this well let me know how you all are, I know your out
there somewhere.

THE ORIGINAL CAVEDWELLER.

Cavey...

Cyrano

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Jan 21, 2010, 10:44:51 PM1/21/10
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I'm not sure what happened. I guess asln got taken over by trolls and
this group never really got off the ground. I seem to spend more time
on facebook these days.

Congrats on the son.

old mr h

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Jan 22, 2010, 12:55:03 PM1/22/10
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In article <65b9b29c-c8fd-49c6-bfe7-122e6158a683
@f12g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, ona...@hotmail.com says...

Hi guys. I still have both ng's on my subscribed list but there are
very few posts made to them.

Good to hear that everything is working out for you, Cavey! Still in
Germany?

--
mr h

cavey

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Jan 28, 2010, 5:30:49 AM1/28/10
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Yeah I really miss ASLN had some fun reading over there, Facebook
haha I almost live in there anyone can find me as Keith Brazier in
there....


cavey.

cavey

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Jan 28, 2010, 5:33:53 AM1/28/10
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On 22 Jan, 18:55, old mr h <m...@mindless.com> wrote:
> In article <65b9b29c-c8fd-49c6-bfe7-122e6158a683
> @f12g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, onar...@hotmail.com says...
> mr h- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -


Hi mr H. yeah still in Germany, wont leave here now I dont
think ...

Cyrano

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Jan 28, 2010, 11:12:13 PM1/28/10
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I looked there and found 8 Keith Braziers.

cavey

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Feb 24, 2010, 4:40:19 AM2/24/10
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> I looked there and found 8 Keith Braziers.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

haha, well look for the one in Germany ...

Frog Funky

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Feb 27, 2010, 5:06:58 PM2/27/10
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On 21 Jan, 09:32, cavey <cavey....@googlemail.com> wrote:
> well things a great for me at last, I now have a 4 month old
> son, and its made me feel 20 years old again,
>
>

Well done mate, I'm really pleased for you.

Frog Funky

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Feb 27, 2010, 5:26:55 PM2/27/10
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I think both of the things you said were true, but I think it's also
the fact that the Usenet newsgroups are pretty much out of vogue now,
the main use for them now is binary groups.

Also, looking back, I think the imposed censorship and flame wars made
us lose momentum as well. I know that some blame must fall at my feet
in both matters (although I am not the only one), but I am older and
much wiser now. For those shortcomings I apologise, especially to Mr H
in terms of the censorship debate. My intentions were good in the
trying to set up the ASLN Guidelines, but it was a flawed concept from
the start. I did it because certain people in the group were getting
offended by new visitors to the group and it was my way of trying to
avoid such occurrences, but it backfired as it looked like I was
telling the existing members what they could and couldn't do (which
was not my intention). Still, in retrospect I should have left well
alone and I do feel bad about the arguments the whole matter caused.

Another thing I've learnt the very painful way is not to take sides in
arguments between friends (online or otherwise), instead to encourage
them to sort it out and be there for both of them.

Still, I remember ASLN with great fondness and we did all have a laugh
on there. One good thing in particular that's come from it is my
friendship and now creative partnership with Marcus (Ed), who I met
here over 10 years ago.

I'm glad Goohead still gets visited from time to time, this was always
our safe haven from the trolls.

old mr h

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Mar 2, 2010, 5:45:49 AM3/2/10
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In article <03ab8095-5e85-44a3-b644-
8214ef...@t23g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>, frog...@aol.com says...

>
> On 22 Jan, 03:44, Cyrano <onar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 21, 2:32 am, cavey <cavey....@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > ah well, looks like its even more quiet now hmmmm...
> > >  I really miss the old fun stuff, but I guess nothing last forever
> > > does it, well things a great for me at last, I now have a 4 month old
> > > son, and its made me feel 20 years old again,
> >
> > > If anyone reads this well let me know how you all are, I know your out
> > > there somewhere.
> >
> > > THE ORIGINAL CAVEDWELLER.
> >
> > > Cavey...
> >
> > I'm not sure what happened.  I guess asln got taken over by trolls and
> > this group never really got off the ground.  I seem to spend more time
> > on facebook these days.
> >
> > Congrats on the son.
>
> I think both of the things you said were true, but I think it's also
> the fact that the Usenet newsgroups are pretty much out of vogue now,
> the main use for them now is binary groups.


Hey FF, and fellow Hammer, good to hear from you!

Yep. usenet is yesterday.

It's all Facebook and other social networking sites now. I don't do
them personally, they take too much time and also I dont really like
that kind of interaction, it seems too contrived (as if usenet isn't,
ha ha!)

I flirted with a blog for a while, but again maintaining it it just
turned into a chore rather than the light relief that asln used to
provide. I suppose it's just that times change, we all develop other
interests and spend our time doing different things. A good thing
too, or we would all vegitate!

> Also, looking back, I think the imposed censorship and flame wars made
> us lose momentum as well. I know that some blame must fall at my feet
> in both matters (although I am not the only one), but I am older and
> much wiser now. For those shortcomings I apologise, especially to Mr H
> in terms of the censorship debate. My intentions were good in the
> trying to set up the ASLN Guidelines, but it was a flawed concept from
> the start. I did it because certain people in the group were getting
> offended by new visitors to the group and it was my way of trying to
> avoid such occurrences, but it backfired as it looked like I was
> telling the existing members what they could and couldn't do (which
> was not my intention). Still, in retrospect I should have left well
> alone and I do feel bad about the arguments the whole matter caused.

What? I had forgotten all about that litle spat!
I seem to recall emitting a load of pompous platitudes and self
righteous crap mysef, so I too apologise for my part in any flame
storm - I plead guilty to taking myself, and usenet, far too
seriously; it should all just have been a bit of fun.


> Another thing I've learnt the very painful way is not to take sides in
> arguments between friends (online or otherwise), instead to encourage
> them to sort it out and be there for both of them.
>
> Still, I remember ASLN with great fondness and we did all have a laugh
> on there. One good thing in particular that's come from it is my
> friendship and now creative partnership with Marcus (Ed), who I met
> here over 10 years ago.

That is / was the great thing about usenet in general - it did bring
people together who would not have met in any other way.


> I'm glad Goohead still gets visited from time to time, this was always
> our safe haven from the trolls.


--
mr h

Frog Funky

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Mar 3, 2010, 6:55:41 PM3/3/10
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On 2 Mar, 10:45, old mr h <m...@mindless.com> wrote:
> In article <03ab8095-5e85-44a3-b644-
> 8214ef8f7...@t23g2000yqt.googlegroups.com>, frogfu...@aol.com says...

>
>
>>
> Hey FF, and fellow Hammer, good to hear from you!

You too mate, I'm glad The Irons are a few places (but unfortunately
not many points) above the relegation zone.

>
> Yep. usenet is yesterday.
>
> It's all Facebook and other social networking sites now.  I don't do
> them personally, they take too much time and also I dont really like
> that kind of interaction, it seems too contrived (as if usenet isn't,
> ha ha!)
>

Facebook discourages you from adopting pseudonyms (although some of us
still find ways around this), it takes itself way too seriously.

> I flirted with a blog for a while, but again maintaining it it just
> turned into a chore rather than the light relief that asln used to
> provide.  I suppose it's just that times change, we all develop other
> interests and spend our time doing different things.  A good thing
> too, or we would all vegitate!
>
> > Also, looking back, I think the imposed censorship and flame wars made
> > us lose momentum as well. I know that some blame must fall at my feet
> > in both matters (although I am not the only one), but I am older and
> > much wiser now. For those shortcomings I apologise, especially to Mr H
> > in terms of the censorship debate. My intentions were good in the
> > trying to set up the ASLN Guidelines, but it was a flawed concept from
> > the start. I did it because certain people in the group were getting
> > offended by new visitors to the group and it was my way of trying to
> > avoid such occurrences, but it backfired as it looked like I was
> > telling the existing members what they could and couldn't do (which
> > was not my intention). Still, in retrospect I should have left well
> > alone and I do feel bad about the arguments the whole matter caused.
>
> What?  I had forgotten all about that litle spat!

That's a relief! :)

> I seem to recall emitting a load of pompous platitudes and self
> righteous crap mysef, so I too apologise for my part in any flame
> storm - I plead guilty to taking myself, and usenet, far too
> seriously; it should all just have been a bit of fun.
>
> > Another thing I've learnt the very painful way is not to take sides in
> > arguments between friends (online or otherwise), instead to encourage
> > them to sort it out and be there for both of them.
>
> > Still, I remember ASLN with great fondness and we did all have a laugh
> > on there. One good thing in particular that's come from it is my
> > friendship and now creative partnership with Marcus (Ed), who I met
> > here over 10 years ago.
>
> That is / was the great thing about usenet in general - it did bring
> people together who would not have met in any other way.
>

I know two people in another newsgroup who actually ended up getting
married after meeting on usenet, but Marcus and I have no plans for a
civil partnership just yet! :)

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