Climate change causing wildfires

[Nadegda]

I got this link from kensi:

https://www.salon.com/2023/06/29/no-end-in-sight-to-wildfire-smoke-suffocating-american-cities-and-yes-climate-change-is-to/

I think she wanted me to post it here.

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[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 09:50:46 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>I got this link from kensi:

Now we know you're lying since the Cabal has cut all communications
from him. We're even making his lights flicker on and off.

[max headroom]

In news:u7ostl$2suj2$1...@dont-email.me, Nadegda the Liar
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> trolled:

> I got this link from kensi:

> https://www.salon.com/2023/06/29/no-end-in-sight-to-wildfire-smoke-suffocating-american-cities-and-yes-climate-change-is-to/

> I think she wanted me to post it here.

No, you idiot! It was supposed to go to se.kultur.sf+fantasy

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 03:25:37 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:

> [Default] On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 09:50:46 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>
>> I got this link from kensi:
>
> Now

I've restored the URL that causes you such extreme fear.

https://www.salon.com/2023/06/29/no-end-in-sight-to-wildfire-smoke-suffocating-american-cities-and-yes-climate-change-is-to/

I note that headshroom and Kookmate also snecked it. It seems that Salon
has a potent terror-inducing effect on right wingers. Good.

<snicker>

> we know you're lying since the Cabal has cut all communications
> from him. We're even making his lights flicker on and off.

Who?

Have you been into headshroom's stash again?

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 02:31:06 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 03:25:37 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:

>>>I got this link from kensi:

>>Now we know you're lying since the Cabal has cut all communications

>>from him. We're even making his lights flicker on and off.


>
>Who?

Your short attention span got the best of you again?

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

The only male person referenced here is you, but it's clear that,
unfortunately, nobody has cut all communications from you. So you have a
pronoun dangling there without any apparent referent.

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On Sat, 1 Jul 2023 22:22:21 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; The Pathetic
Anti-Muslim Wannabe Homegrown Terrorist who is too cowardly to reply to
me anymore and is cowering in his boogaloo-boi bunker Posting as ""💩
<mode...@jelly.time>" <oo.dave...@ass.worm>" determined that the
following was of great importance and subsequently decided to freely
share it with us in <MPG.3f0aa96d4...@usnews.blocknews.net>:

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Hey Jim, do you "spank" ppl when you can't "UDP" them, or is it the other way around?

Have you ever done either of those things?

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[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 11:03:03 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda

<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 03:19:09 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>
>> [Default] On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 02:31:06 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>
>>>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>>On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 03:25:37 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>>
>>>>>I got this link from kensi:
>>
>>>>Now we know you're lying since the Cabal has cut all communications
>>>>from him. We're even making his lights flicker on and off.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Who?
>>
>> Your short attention span got the best of you again?
>
>The only male person referenced here is you,

Well we both know it's not, kook

[Byker]

"Nadegda" wrote in message news:u7ostl$2suj2$1...@dont-email.me...

>
> I got this link from kensi:
>
> https://www.salon.com/2023/06/29/no-end-in-sight-to-wildfire-smoke-suffocating-american-cities-and-yes-climate-change-is-to/

You call THAT news? That's to be expected in the "new normal" ;-)

[Kym Horsell]

NASA Realtime has just updated its sat-based estimate of avg seaice for Jun
2023. It finds the world's seaice recorded a record low for Jun at
only 17.2 mn km2 -- almost 1 mn km2 less than the prev record set in 2019.

The global low was set by an even more extreme record low in
Antarctica at just 8.49 mn km2 -- more than 1 mn km2 less than the
prev record set in that region also in 2019.

The Arctic Ocean is trying to hold up its end of the deal recording
8.71 mn km2, just outside the top 10 lowest years at #12.

N_06_extent_v3.0.csv
year,`mo,````data-type,`region,`extent,```area
2016,``6,``````Goddard,``````N,``10.41,```8.21
2010,``6,``````Goddard,``````N,``10.59,```8.37
2019,``6,``````Goddard,``````N,``10.59,```8.32
2020,``6,``````Goddard,``````N,``10.59,```8.41
2012,``6,``````Goddard,``````N,``10.67,```8.16
2011,``6,``````Goddard,``````N,``10.75,```8.54
2017,``6,``````Goddard,``````N,``10.76,```8.63
2021,``6,``````Goddard,``````N,``10.77,```8.39
2018,``6,``````Goddard,``````N,``10.78,```8.79
2015,``6,``````Goddard,``````N,``10.88,```8.70
2023,``6,``````NRTSI-G,``````N,``10.96,```8.71 <--`#12/45

S_06_extent_v3.0.csv
year,`mo,````data-type,`region,`extent,```area
2023,``6,``````NRTSI-G,``````S,``11.02,```8.49 <--`NEW`RECORD
2022,``6,``````Goddard,``````S,``12.22,```9.56
2019,``6,``````Goddard,``````S,``12.25,```9.75
2002,``6,``````Goddard,``````S,``12.38,```9.70
2017,``6,``````Goddard,``````S,``12.41,```9.80
1980,``6,``````Goddard,``````S,``12.49,```9.58
1983,``6,``````Goddard,``````S,``12.64,```9.77
1987,``6,``````Goddard,``````S,``12.68,```9.91
1986,``6,``````Goddard,``````S,``12.69,```9.72
1992,``6,``````Goddard,``````S,``12.81,``10.00

TOTAL
year,`mo,````data-type,`region,`extent,```area
2023,`6,``````NRTSI-G,`````N+S```21.98```17.2`<--`NEW`RECORD
2019,`6,``````Goddard,`````N+S```22.84```18.07
2022,`6,``````Goddard,`````N+S```23.1````18.17
2017,`6,``````Goddard,`````N+S```23.17```18.43
2016,`6,``````Goddard,`````N+S```23.65```18.82
2018,`6,``````Goddard,`````N+S```23.67```19.02
2020,`6,``````Goddard,`````N+S```23.86```19
2002,`6,``````Goddard,`````N+S```23.96```18.89
2011,`6,``````Goddard,`````N+S```24.08```19.08
2012,`6,``````Goddard,`````N+S```24.22```18.95

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2100 to avoid losing as much as e1.27 trillion due to climate-driven
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Since the dust settled on the pandemic, personal choice has replaced
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[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

No, only the kook who's been into headshroom's stash sees anyone else here,
kook.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 17:06:39 -0700, Kym Horsell wrote:

> Twitter Thread: High and Low Temperatures in a Warming Climate
> A severe December 2022 cold snap set new all-time cold records in the U.S.
> How can that happen if Earth is warming? A short animation explains.
> <https://twitter.com/NASAClimate/status/1613211795728072705/>
> -- NASA's Climate Change Newsletter, 03 Feb 2023

Link noworky, all I see is a login prompt.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 03:25:49 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda

<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 06:39:02 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>
>> [Default] On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 11:03:03 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>
>>>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>>On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 03:19:09 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>
>>>> [Default] On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 02:31:06 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>>>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>>>
>>>>>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>>>>On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 03:25:37 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>I got this link from kensi:
>>>>
>>>>>>Now we know you're lying since the Cabal has cut all communications
>>>>>>from him. We're even making his lights flicker on and off.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Who?
>>>>
>>>> Your short attention span got the best of you again?
>>>
>>>The only male person referenced here is you,
>>
>> Well we both know it's not, kook
>
>No,

Yes. Now behave, or the cabal will come after YOUR internet
connection.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

>>No, only the kook who's been into headshroom's stash sees anyone else here,
>>kook.
>

> Yes. Now behave, or the cabal will come after YOUR internet
> connection.

Kookthreat!!1!

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On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 11:57:24 -0000 (UTC), LO AND BEHOLD; Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> determined that the following was of great

importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in

<u7ud34$3mlkl$2...@dont-email.me>:

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=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 03:14:51 -0700, 🤡🎪🤡 Schadenfreude wrote:
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=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
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=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 06:39:02 -0700, KK🤡🎪🤡 SSchadenfreude wrote:
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=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 03:19:09 -0700, KK🤡🎪🤡 SSchadenfreude wrote:
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=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I got this link from kensi:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Now we know you're lying since the Cabal has cut all communications from
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= him. We're even making his lights flicker on and off.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Who?
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Your short attention span got the best of you again?
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= The only male person referenced here is you,
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Well we both know it's not, kook
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= No, only the kook who's been into head🍄's stash sees anyone else
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= here, kook.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Yes. Now behave, or the cabal will come after YOUR internet connection.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Kookthreat!!1!
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

You two wanks should get a hermetically sealed room.

[max headroom]

In news:u7tf3t$3jo5n$2...@dont-email.me, Nadegda the Liar
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

> On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 06:39:02 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>> [Default] On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 11:03:03 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>>> On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 03:19:09 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>>>> [Default] On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 02:31:06 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>>>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>>>>> On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 03:25:37 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:

>>>>>>> I got this link from kensi:

>>>>>> Now we know you're lying since the Cabal has cut all communications
>>>>>> from him. We're even making his lights flicker on and off.

>>>>> Who?

>>>> Your short attention span got the best of you again?

>>> The only male person referenced here is you,

>> Well we both know it's not, kook

> No, only the kook who's been into headshroom's stash sees anyone else here,
> kook.

Fascinating. Nadegda denies participating in this dialog.

Nadegda must be a non-person.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 22:27:19 -0700, max headshroom was high as a kite:

> Fascinating. Nadegda denies participating in this dialog.
>
> Nadegda must be a non-person.

Fascinating. This has to be the first time I've come across someone
hallucinating that someone *isn't* there when she actually *is*.

<snicker>

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 11:57:24 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda

You've seen the power of the cabal. You have been warned.

[max headroom]

In news:u7ukls$3ndar$1...@dont-email.me, Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

> On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 22:27:19 -0700, max headroom was right as rain:

>> Fascinating. Nadegda denies participating in this dialog.

>> Nadegda must be a non-person.

> Fascinating. This has to be the first time I've come across someone
> hallucinating that someone *isn't* there when she actually *is*.

Historic day, the first time Nadegda agrees with me!

[William Stickers]

Nadegda wrote:
>
> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 22:27:19 -0700, max headshroom was high as a kite:
>
> > Fascinating. Nadegda denies participating in this dialog.
> >
> > Nadegda must be a non-person.
>
> Fascinating. This has to be the first time I've come across someone
> hallucinating that someone *isn't* there when she actually *is*.
>
> <snicker>

Ray Banana called you 'stupid' and 'Paul'.
Why didn't you 'proof kook' him?

Everyone who reads your poasts knows you are the autistic
twat Paul Derbyshire. Your newsadmin has as good as
confirmed it and he should know.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 21:06:39 +0100, William Stickers wrote:

> Everyone who reads your poasts knows you are the autistic
> twat Paul Derbyshire.

a) Bullshit;

b) Even were it true, you would still be an ableist, misogynist, harassing
scumbag with delusions of adequacy and an unhealthy obsession with
Derbyshire.

(What *did* he do that got so many of you kooks worked up into a permanent,
or at least decades-long, lather? I still have not gotten a straight
answer. But I'm guessing he showed you up or embarrassed you in some way.)

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 12:11:24 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Even were it true, you would still be an ableist, misogynist, harassing
> scumbag with delusions of adequacy and an unhealthy obsession with
> Derbyshire.

Nads surrenders again.



"That's all you've got left? A bit of mild name-calling?"
-Nadegda

Reverting to name calling suggests you are defensive and therefore
find my opinion valid.
-Nadegda

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:15:19 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude posted another
article with that illegal hack that prevents direct followups from
succeeding in a desperate and futile attempt to shut up his critics and
get the all-important last word:

> [Default] On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 12:11:24 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>

>>Even were it true, you would still be an ableist, misogynist, harassing
>> scumbag with delusions of adequacy and an unhealthy obsession with
>> Derbyshire.
>

> Nads surrenders again.

... says the kook so obsessed with me he was hammering refresh every few
minutes so he could jump on any new post by me almost instantly after I
sent it.

There's no name-calling in what I wrote above; just facts supported by
observational data. And you just added one more supporting data point.

<snicker>

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 12:25:22 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:15:19 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude posted another
>article with that illegal hack that prevents direct followups from
>succeeding in a desperate and futile attempt to shut up his critics and
>get the all-important last word:

Not the illegal hack! ROFLMAO

Could it be that you're just too stupid to understand how your news
client works?

>> [Default] On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 12:11:24 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>
>>>Even were it true, you would still be an ableist, misogynist, harassing
>>> scumbag with delusions of adequacy and an unhealthy obsession with
>>> Derbyshire.
>>
>> Nads surrenders again.
>
>... says the kook

LOL And again.

I love when you get all submissive and stuff.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 12:25:22 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:15:19 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude posted another
>article with that illegal hack that prevents direct followups from
>succeeding in a desperate and futile attempt to shut up his critics and
>get the all-important last word:

Just remember! Leave a trail of bread crumbs so you can find your way
out again!

[illegal followup hack #476.2 Mk. II engaged]

[chuckle]

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Evidently not. Apparently I now have you *so* flustered you're posting
*multiple* followups to single articles of mine *and* forgetting to push
whichever NewsMaestro button does that "get the last word by blocking
followups" nonsense.

Of course, this isn't necessarily surprising from someone who claims
affiliation with a "school of frantic retreat".

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:42:26 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> typed:

Curses! Foiled again! Nads replied DESPITE my illegal hack!

Maybe he was just imagining it, like he imagines climate change!

ROFLMAO!!!!

[last word hack 22b Mk. IV engaged]

And here I cam getting the last word again!

[William Stickers]

Nadegda wrote:
>
> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 21:06:39 +0100, William Stickers wrote:

You snipped this bit

"Ray Banana called you 'stupid' and 'Paul'.

Why didn't you 'proof kook' him?", and you always drop
alt.paul-derbyshire.fix.it.now from the crosspost, why is
that, Paul?

> > Everyone who reads your poasts knows you are the autistic
> > twat Paul Derbyshire.
>
> a) Bullshit;

Prove you're not him, show us yer tits!

> b) Even were it true, you would still be an ableist, misogynist, harassing
> scumbag with delusions of adequacy and an unhealthy obsession with
> Derbyshire.

Aw, shucks.

> (What *did* he do that got so many of you kooks worked up into a permanent,
> or at least decades-long, lather? I still have not gotten a straight
> answer. But I'm guessing he showed you up or embarrassed you in some way.)

That's simple, no one likes you because you're a cunt.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 20:18:18 +0100, William Stickers wrote:

> Nadegda wrote:
>>
>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>> On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 21:06:39 +0100, William Stickers wrote:
>> > Everyone who reads your poasts knows you are the autistic
>> > twat Paul Derbyshire.
>>
>> a) Bullshit;
>
> Prove you're not him,

Burden of proof is on the side making a positive claim, in this case you.

>> b) Even were it true, you would still be an ableist, misogynist, harassing
>> scumbag with delusions of adequacy and an unhealthy obsession with
>> Derbyshire.
>
> Aw, shucks.

That's a rather weak response to data suggesting that you need professional
help and then a DEI course or three.

>> (What *did* he do that got so many of you kooks worked up into a permanent,
>> or at least decades-long, lather? I still have not gotten a straight
>> answer. But I'm guessing he showed you up or embarrassed you in some way.)
>
> That's simple, no one likes you because you're a cunt.

Misogyny noted. But your hating me for the heinous crime of being a woman
(and projection of that hatred onto everyone else) is not an explanation
for your obsession with that Derbyshire guy. So, I *still* have not gotten
a straight answer.

Whatever he did must have been remarkable, though. It seems he blasted a
crater into the collective consciousness of all of kook-kind, to judge by
the observable fact that, whatever he did to you, Sn!pe, and others, none
of you have been able to let it go even after a quarter-century or so.

Perhaps he even *created* you (as notorious net.kooks, out of formerly
sane human beings) the way Batman created the Joker when he dropped Jack
Napier into a vat of chemicals ...

[William Stickers]

Nadegda wrote:
>
> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 20:18:18 +0100, William Stickers wrote:

You snipped this bit again, coward.

"Ray Banana called you 'stupid' and 'Paul'.
Why didn't you 'proof kook' him?", and you always drop
alt.paul-derbyshire.fix.it.now from the crosspost, why is
that, Paul?

You can snip it, but it's still there for all to see you
avoiding it, so the only one you are fooling is yourself.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Let the record show that Stickers snipped everything when replying and did
not even attempt to address any of the above or answer the question of what,
precisely, Derbyshire did back in the day that caused such long-lasting
mass pwnage.

Whatever it is, all of those affected seem to have a deep psychological
aversion to facing up to whatever it was that happened. They appear to
have been severely traumatized by Derbyshire.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 02:26:23 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
wrote:

> Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
> Checkmate.
>
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 07:00:03 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say the
> following:

>
>> That's a rather weak response to data suggesting that you need professional
>> help and then a DEI course or three.
>

> Why didn't the libtards call it DIE?

Because "diversity, equity, and inclusion" doesn't spell that, dimbulb.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 11:41:33 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 02:26:23 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
>wrote:
>
>> Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
>> Checkmate.
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 07:00:03 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say the
>> following:
>>
>>> That's a rather weak response to data suggesting that you need professional
>>> help and then a DEI course or three.
>>
>> Why didn't the libtards call it DIE?
>
>Because "diversity, equity, and inclusion" doesn't spell that, dimbulb.

[William Stickers]

Nadegda wrote:
>
> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 07:00:03 +0000, Nadegda wrote:
>
> > Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> > On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 20:18:18 +0100, William Stickers wrote:
> >
> >> Nadegda wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> >>> On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 21:06:39 +0100, William Stickers wrote:
> >>> > Everyone who reads your poasts knows you are the autistic
> >>> > twat Paul Derbyshire.
> >>>
> >>> a) Bullshit;
> >>
> >> Prove you're not him,
> >
> > Burden of proof is on the side making a positive claim, in this case you.

You always deny and ignore the proof. Even your newsadmin
says you are Paul Derbyshire of Pembroke, Ontario. Why
don't you 'Proof kook' him?

> >>> b) Even were it true, you would still be an ableist, misogynist, harassing
> >>> scumbag with delusions of adequacy and an unhealthy obsession with
> >>> Derbyshire.
> >>
> >> Aw, shucks.
> >
> > That's a rather weak response to data suggesting that you need professional
> > help and then a DEI course or three.

Sorry, I thought that was a compliment coming from you.

> >>> (What *did* he do that got so many of you kooks worked up into a permanent,
> >>> or at least decades-long, lather? I still have not gotten a straight
> >>> answer. But I'm guessing he showed you up or embarrassed you in some way.)

A straight answer is no one likes you because of your use
of multiple socks to disrupt newsgroups. HTH.

> >> That's simple, no one likes you because you're a cunt.
> >
> > Misogyny noted. But your hating me for the heinous crime of being a woman

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunt>
"Cunt is a vulgar word for the vulva or vagina. It is
used in a variety of ways, including as a term of
disparagement. "Cunt" is often used as a disparaging and
obscene term for a woman in the United States, an
unpleasant or stupid man or woman in the United Kingdom,
or a contemptible man in Australia and New Zealand".

I like women, but apart from your midget penis looking a
bit like an average sized clitoris, you aren't a women.
And as I'm English I use the UK definition of cunt, you
stupid unpleasant man.

> > (and projection of that hatred onto everyone else) is not an explanation
> > for your obsession with that Derbyshire guy. So, I *still* have not gotten
> > a straight answer.

A straight answer is no one likes you because of your use
of multiple socks to disrupt newsgroups. HTH.

> > Whatever he did must have been remarkable, though. It seems he blasted a
> > crater into the collective consciousness of all of kook-kind, to judge by
> > the observable fact that, whatever he did to you, Sn!pe, and others, none
> > of you have been able to let it go even after a quarter-century or so.
> >
> > Perhaps he even *created* you (as notorious net.kooks, out of formerly
> > sane human beings) the way Batman created the Joker when he dropped Jack
> > Napier into a vat of chemicals ...
>
> Let the record show that Stickers snipped everything when replying and did
> not even attempt to address any of the above or answer the question of what,
> precisely, Derbyshire did back in the day that caused such long-lasting
> mass pwnage.

Answered above.

>
> Whatever it is, all of those affected seem to have a deep psychological
> aversion to facing up to whatever it was that happened. They appear to
> have been severely traumatized by Derbyshire.

I've answered your questions, see above.
Are you going to answer mine, or snip and run again?

Ray Banana called you 'stupid' and 'Paul'.

Why didn't you 'proof kook' him?", and why do you always
drop alt.paul-derbyshire.fix.it.now from the crosspost?

Crossposted to your vanity/fan froup.

[Sn!pe]

Quite correct in all the above; I fully agree.

Paul Derbyshire of Pembroke, Ontario aka "Nadgeda" aka "kensi"
and a myriad other sockpuppets: you are a buffoon, a transparent one
at that.

--
^Ï^. – Sn!pe – <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.

[Scout]

"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
news:u7ostl$2suj2$1...@dont-email.me...

> I got this link from kensi:
>

> https://www.salon.com/2023/06/29/no-end-in-sight-to-wildfire-smoke-suffocating-american-cities-and-yes-climate-change-is-to/

As if wildfires never occurred before...

> I think

No you don't.

[Scout]

"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

news:u7rlh7$3a04q$1...@dont-email.me...

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

> On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 03:19:09 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>

>> [Default] On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 02:31:06 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>

>>>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

>>>On Sat, 01 Jul 2023 03:25:37 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>>

>>>>>I got this link from kensi:
>>

>>>>Now we know you're lying since the Cabal has cut all communications
>>>>from him. We're even making his lights flicker on and off.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Who?
>>
>> Your short attention span got the best of you again?
>
> The only male person referenced here is you,

How do you know?

[Creon]

On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 11:40:00 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda wrote:

> Whatever it is, all of those affected seem to have a deep psychological
> aversion to facing up to whatever it was that happened. They appear to
> have been severely traumatized by Derbyshire.

I would like to explore your apparent supposition that this
one "Derbyshire" exists. He (or she) is indeed a kind of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyser_S%C3%B6ze

...which will do for a name for the Pembroke puppetmaster. Or if
they prefer another name, what should we call them? Your choice,
please: ___

For now, I will call them "Ms. X".

And what evidence other than from the USENET do you find
this "Ms. X" to exist to cause such imaginary trauma?
100 years from now, USENET archaeologists will
think it was you all along. (Don't forget the
unsalted md5 hashes of yore, or the unintentional
disclosure of posting IP's in plaintext.)

Eh. It's all about solving a mystery, but once solved, one has to
wonder: who cares?

Regarding Kensi: Eh again. I've discussed an astrophysical
matter with her, kind of thought the answer she gave was
rather pat. But that's just a matter of taste: Her posting isn't in the
same class as the fscking Nazi's, and if you respond to her posts, she
does talk back. (Is she a bot?)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's well known, but if it isn't: I was a
news admin back in the day -- for a server regularly on the top 1000.
(Back when every ISP had their own news server...hmm...) And you
wouldn't believe the sea lawyers that come out of the
woodwork when one lays down the ban hammer. Your problem is simple:

"Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one."
(Liebling)

--
-c

[Sn!pe]

Creon <cr...@creon.earth> wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 11:40:00 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda wrote:
>
> > Whatever it is, all of those affected seem to have a deep psychological
> > aversion to facing up to whatever it was that happened. They appear to
> > have been severely traumatized by Derbyshire.
>
> I would like to explore your apparent supposition that this
> one "Derbyshire" exists. He (or she) is indeed a kind of
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyser_S%C3%B6ze
>
> ...which will do for a name for the Pembroke puppetmaster. Or if
> they prefer another name, what should we call them? Your choice,
> please: ___
>
> For now, I will call them "Ms. X".
>
> And what evidence other than from the USENET do you find
> this "Ms. X" to exist to cause such imaginary trauma?
> 100 years from now, USENET archaeologists will
> think it was you all along. (Don't forget the
> unsalted md5 hashes of yore, or the unintentional
> disclosure of posting IP's in plaintext.)
>
> Eh. It's all about solving a mystery, but once solved, one has to
> wonder: who cares?
>
> Regarding Kensi: Eh again. I've discussed an astrophysical
> matter with her, kind of thought the answer she gave was
> rather pat.
>

"kensi" being an astrophysics professor, one might reasonably expect
"her" to know of Professor Alec Boksenberg CBE FRS, eminent astronomer
and astrophysicist (whom I met in a former life). Minor planet 3205
Boksenberg is named in his honour.

"She" eventually answered, having had time to research him. However,
"she" could not name the telescope with which he made his reputation,
nor its original location.

I would expect an academic expert such as "kensi" Kensington to know
all of that straight off the cuff.

We now return you to your regular programming:

>
> But that's just a matter of taste: Her posting isn't in the
> same class as the fscking Nazi's, and if you respond to her posts, she
> does talk back. (Is she a bot?)
>
> Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's well known, but if it isn't: I was a
> news admin back in the day -- for a server regularly on the top 1000.
> (Back when every ISP had their own news server...hmm...) And you
> wouldn't believe the sea lawyers that come out of the
> woodwork when one lays down the ban hammer. Your problem is simple:
>
> "Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one."
> (Liebling)
>

--

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 14:21:25 +0100, William Stickers wrote:

>> >>> (What *did* he do that got so many of you kooks worked up into a permanent,
>> >>> or at least decades-long, lather? I still have not gotten a straight
>> >>> answer. But I'm guessing he showed you up or embarrassed you in some way.)
>
> A straight answer is no one likes you because

Quit changing the subject. We were talking about that bogeyman of yours,
not me.

>> >> That's simple, no one likes you because you're a cunt.
>> >
>> > Misogyny noted. But your hating me for the heinous crime of being a woman

>> > (and projection of that hatred onto everyone else) is not an explanation
>> > for your obsession with that Derbyshire guy. So, I *still* have not gotten
>> > a straight answer.
>
> A straight answer is no one likes you

Quit changing the subject. We were talking about that bogeyman of yours,
not me.

>> Let the record show that Stickers snipped everything when replying and did
>> not even attempt to address any of the above or answer the question of what,
>> precisely, Derbyshire did back in the day that caused such long-lasting
>> mass pwnage.

This remains the case.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 22:34:08 +0000, Creon wrote:

> Eh. It's all about solving a mystery, but once solved, one has to
> wonder: who cares?

For reasons that remain mysterious, it seems that Stickers, Sn!pe, and
several other kooks care a great deal. They seem to be terrified that a
bogeyman of some sort lurks among us, and are on a neverending quest to
"prove" that this poster, or that one, or that other one is actually
their bogeyman in disguise. Why it should matter even if it actually
were true, I have no idea.

Maybe they think it's a demon and that calling it by its "true name"
will protect them from it or even give them the power to control it and
use it against their enemies or something. The fact that it obviously
isn't working (they clearly are still scared, so they clearly don't
believe that they're protected, and they certainly haven't been siccing
demons on their enemies) doesn't seem to faze them; it is this, the
refusal to recognize when something isn't working and change course,
more than anything else that marks them as kooks.

> Regarding Kensi: Eh again. I've discussed an astrophysical
> matter with her, kind of thought the answer she gave was
> rather pat. But that's just a matter of taste: Her posting isn't in the
> same class as the fscking Nazi's, and if you respond to her posts, she
> does talk back. (Is she a bot?)

Don't be ridiculous. Of course she's not a bot.

> Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's well known, but if it isn't: I was a
> news admin back in the day -- for a server regularly on the top 1000.

Given how many news servers there are, or ever were, being in the top
1000 would have pretty much been guaranteed. :)

> (Back when every ISP had their own news server...hmm...) And you
> wouldn't believe the sea lawyers that come out of the
> woodwork when one lays down the ban hammer. Your problem is simple:
>
> "Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one."
> (Liebling)

That's not *my* problem, it's *everyone's* problem, or rather it's a
special case of the more general problem that a narrow elite gatekeeps
the means of production more generally; a more general problem named
"capitalism".

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 00:08:15 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:

> "kensi" being an astrophysics professor, one might reasonably expect
> "her" to know of Professor Alec Boksenberg CBE FRS, eminent astronomer
> and astrophysicist (whom I met in a former life). Minor planet 3205
> Boksenberg is named in his honour.
>
> "She" eventually answered, having had time to research him. However,
> "she" could not name the telescope with which he made his reputation,
> nor its original location.

That's a lie:

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/NI69Y3JnKzQ/m/n3Uw_QPY_BMJ

As you can see, she answered exactly that question 11 whole years ago.
How soon kooks like you forget!

<snicker>

[William Stickers]

Nadegda wrote:
>
> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 14:21:25 +0100, William Stickers wrote:
>
> >> >>> (What *did* he do that got so many of you kooks worked up into a permanent,
> >> >>> or at least decades-long, lather? I still have not gotten a straight
> >> >>> answer. But I'm guessing he showed you up or embarrassed you in some way.)
> >
> > A straight answer is no one likes you because
>
> Quit changing the subject. We were talking about that bogeyman of yours,
> not me.
>
> >> >> That's simple, no one likes you because you're a cunt.
> >> >
> >> > Misogyny noted. But your hating me for the heinous crime of being a woman
> >> > (and projection of that hatred onto everyone else) is not an explanation
> >> > for your obsession with that Derbyshire guy. So, I *still* have not gotten
> >> > a straight answer.
> >
> > A straight answer is no one likes you
>
> Quit changing the subject. We were talking about that bogeyman of yours,
> not me.
>
> >> Let the record show that Stickers snipped everything when replying and did
> >> not even attempt to address any of the above or answer the question of what,
> >> precisely, Derbyshire did back in the day that caused such long-lasting
> >> mass pwnage.
>
> This remains the case.

A mass snip of stuff your won't address because you are a
coward. It's all there in my previous posts and you can't
change that, you deluded tosspot.

How's that for "let the record show"?

[Cohen]

On 06 Jul 2023, Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> posted some
news:u85t9v$s8dl$1...@dont-email.me:

> On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 14:21:25 +0100, William Stickers wrote:
>
>>> >>> (What *did* he do that got so many of you kooks worked up into a
>>> >>> permanent, or at least decades-long, lather? I still have not
>>> >>> gotten a straight answer. But I'm guessing he showed you up or
>>> >>> embarrassed you in some way.)
>>
>> A straight answer is no one likes you because
>
> Quit changing the subject.

You asking or begging?

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

And *still* no explanation of what Derbyshire did decades ago that affected
you so strongly that even after all this time you're still jumping at
shadows and seeing him everywhere.

Utterly fascinating!

[max headroom]

In news:u85trk$s8dl$2...@dont-email.me, Nadegda the Liar <nad31...@gmail.invalid>
typed:

> On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 22:34:08 +0000, Creon wrote:

>> "Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one."
>> (Liebling)

> That's not *my* problem, it's *everyone's* problem, or rather it's a
> special case of the more general problem that a narrow elite gatekeeps
> the means of production more generally; a more general problem named
> "capitalism".

Capitalism isn't the problem, you twit, it's the solution.

If you don't like it, build your own press; no one's stopping you.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 05:45:39 -0700, max headshroom burbled:

> In news:u85trk$s8dl$2...@dont-email.me, Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid>

> typed:
>
>> On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 22:34:08 +0000, Creon wrote:
>>
>>> "Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one."
>>> (Liebling)
>>
>> That's not *my* problem, it's *everyone's* problem, or rather it's a
>> special case of the more general problem that a narrow elite gatekeeps
>> the means of production more generally; a more general problem named
>> "capitalism".
>
> Capitalism isn't the problem, you twit, it's the solution.

Have a look around you, you fool! Capitalism has had its shot! It's
failed! The whole planet is going to hell in a handcart and all the basic
necessities of life are fast becoming unaffordable to the vast majority of
hardworking people! Even if we changed course tomorrow we'd be lucky to
avoid either catastrophic ecosystem collapse or nuclear war at this point!
You and your ideology have brought us to the brink of catastrophe!

[Skeeter]

In article <u86eeh$ub0o$3...@dont-email.me>, nad31...@gmail.invalid
says...

>
> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 05:45:39 -0700, max headshroom burbled:
>
> > In news:u85trk$s8dl$2...@dont-email.me, Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid>
> > typed:
> >
> >> On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 22:34:08 +0000, Creon wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one."
> >>> (Liebling)
> >>
> >> That's not *my* problem, it's *everyone's* problem, or rather it's a
> >> special case of the more general problem that a narrow elite gatekeeps
> >> the means of production more generally; a more general problem named
> >> "capitalism".
> >
> > Capitalism isn't the problem, you twit, it's the solution.
>
> Have a look around you, you fool! Capitalism has had its shot! It's
> failed! The whole planet is going to hell in a handcart and all the basic
> necessities of life are fast becoming unaffordable to the vast majority of
> hardworking people! Even if we changed course tomorrow we'd be lucky to
> avoid either catastrophic ecosystem collapse or nuclear war at this point!
> You and your ideology have brought us to the brink of catastrophe!

So glowball worming is out?

[Creon]

Personally, I find Usenet important enough that I don't mind helping
to support it.

If I were to set up a news server, I'd probably limit it to our company's
customers for free, and charge for admission otherwise. But that would be
step 10 in a long process.

--
-c
I almost wrote "cnenoyr", lol.
uggcf://ra.jvxvcrqvn.bet/jvxv/Gur_Fgnayrl_Cnenoyr

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 13:09:38 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 05:45:39 -0700, max headshroom burbled:
>
>> In news:u85trk$s8dl$2...@dont-email.me, Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid>
>> typed:
>>
>>> On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 22:34:08 +0000, Creon wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one."
>>>> (Liebling)
>>>
>>> That's not *my* problem, it's *everyone's* problem, or rather it's a
>>> special case of the more general problem that a narrow elite gatekeeps
>>> the means of production more generally; a more general problem named
>>> "capitalism".
>>
>> Capitalism isn't the problem, you twit, it's the solution.
>
>Have a look around you, you fool! Capitalism has had its shot! It's
>failed! The whole planet is going to hell in a handcart and all the basic
>necessities of life are fast becoming unaffordable to the vast majority of
>hardworking people! Even if we changed course tomorrow we'd be lucky to
>avoid either catastrophic ecosystem collapse or nuclear war at this point!
>You and your ideology have brought us to the brink of catastrophe!

Capitalism is the ONLY solution to ANY problem. It has brought more
joy and more wealth and more comfort to more people than any other
economic system, in the history of the entire planet. You're well
aware of this.

[Scout]

"Checkmate <mode...@jelly.time>" <oo.dave...@ass.worm> wrote in
message news:MPG.3f0fe89b1...@usnews.blocknews.net...
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate.
>
> On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 00:08:15 +0100, Sn!pe had the audacity to say the
> following:
>
>
>>

> Shit! We've been hoodwinked and bamboozled!

Heck, I knew when she claimed to be a professor at a particular college..
the only problem is that there was NO such female professor on staff with
the degree she claimed to have.

[Scout]

"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

news:u85trk$s8dl$2...@dont-email.me...

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 22:34:08 +0000, Creon wrote:
>
>> Eh. It's all about solving a mystery, but once solved, one has to
>> wonder: who cares?
>
> For reasons that remain mysterious, it seems that Stickers, Sn!pe, and
> several other kooks care a great deal.

That the two of you lie?

Why shouldn't that be a matter of concern?

[Scout]

"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

news:u86eeh$ub0o$3...@dont-email.me...

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 05:45:39 -0700, max headshroom burbled:
>
>> In news:u85trk$s8dl$2...@dont-email.me, Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid>
>> typed:
>>
>>> On Wed, 05 Jul 2023 22:34:08 +0000, Creon wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one."
>>>> (Liebling)
>>>
>>> That's not *my* problem, it's *everyone's* problem, or rather it's a
>>> special case of the more general problem that a narrow elite gatekeeps
>>> the means of production more generally; a more general problem named
>>> "capitalism".
>>
>> Capitalism isn't the problem, you twit, it's the solution.
>
> Have a look around you, you fool! Capitalism has had its shot! It's
> failed! The whole planet is going to hell in a handcart and all the basic
> necessities of life are fast becoming unaffordable to the vast majority of
> hardworking people!

Due to over regulation, taxation and spending by government.

People are making less because of regulation, taxation and inflation, and
they pay more for goods and services due to regulation, taxation and
inflation.

That has nothing to do with capitalism and everything to do with government.

If we look at socialism it's even worse..

But hey, if you have a better idea, set up whatever company you like and run
it to whatever system you think is best.. if the workers agree then you will
have no issues.

So why haven't you?

[Scout]

"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in
message
news:k4odailocna7acs7s...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com...

Now, now, Lets give the nag a chance.. to either dig himself in deeper or
maybe surprise us with a whole new system of economy.

Nags is almost certainly stupid enough for the former and almost certainly
not smart enough for the later.

[Sn!pe]

Do you see this stick? The pointy one that I use to poke Paul the
Poseur from Pembroke? Its point was formed and hardened in the
bonfire ashes of the froups that Paul has despoiled over the years;
froups such as afn and ratv and many, many more.

Paul Derbyshire from Pembroke, Ontario aka "Nadgeda"; "kensi";
"Libturd"; and countless others is nothing more than a despicable
vandal wrecker of Usenet.

[poof cookie goes here]

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 19:11:59 +0100, Sn!pe wrote:

> bonfire ashes of the froups that Paul has despoiled over the years;
> froups such as afn

*You* despoiled that one, along with murphy, with repeated derailments
of formerly topical threads to (you guessed it) wax paranoid about
your bogeyman.

> and ratv

Nazis despoiled that one by flooding it with large amounts of far-right
political spam, starting during the Obama administration. Seems a black
President being elected caused a whole lotta kooks to go into simultaneous
meltdowns.

> and many, many more.

Name *one* more.

> Paul Derbyshire from Pembroke, Ontario aka "Nadgeda"; "kensi";
> "Libturd"; and countless others is nothing more than a despicable
> vandal wrecker of Usenet.

Projection.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:25:19 -0500, Scout wrote:

> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:u86eeh$ub0o$3...@dont-email.me...

>> The whole planet is going to hell in a handcart and all the basic
>> necessities of life are fast becoming unaffordable to the vast majority of
>> hardworking people!
>
> Due to over regulation, taxation and spending by government.

Ridiculous.

> But hey, if you have a better idea, set up whatever company you like and run
> it to whatever system you think is best..

Most companies internally run on a Soviet-style command economy, FWIW.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 18:59:10 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:25:19 -0500, Scout wrote:
>
>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u86eeh$ub0o$3...@dont-email.me...
>>> The whole planet is going to hell in a handcart and all the basic
>>> necessities of life are fast becoming unaffordable to the vast majority of
>>> hardworking people!
>>
>> Due to over regulation, taxation and spending by government.
>
>Ridiculous.

100% factual and true.

>
>> But hey, if you have a better idea, set up whatever company you like and run
>> it to whatever system you think is best..
>
>Most companies internally run on a Soviet-style command economy, FWIW.

No, they don't. You have no idea what socialism is.

Meanwhile:

In 1820, 94% of the world’s population was living in extreme poverty.
By 1910, this figure had fallen to 82%, and by 1950 the rate had
dropped yet further, to 72%. However, the largest and fastest decline
occurred between 1981 (44.3%) and 2015 (9.6%).

Thanks, capitalism!

[Scout]

"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

news:u872tt$10rbc$3...@dont-email.me...

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:25:19 -0500, Scout wrote:
>
>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u86eeh$ub0o$3...@dont-email.me...
>>> The whole planet is going to hell in a handcart and all the basic
>>> necessities of life are fast becoming unaffordable to the vast majority
>>> of
>>> hardworking people!
>>
>> Due to over regulation, taxation and spending by government.
>
> Ridiculous.

So you think extensive regulation, high taxation and irrational spending by
the government will provide prosperity?

When in history has that EVER happened?

>
>> But hey, if you have a better idea, set up whatever company you like and
>> run
>> it to whatever system you think is best..
>
> Most companies internally run on a Soviet-style command economy, FWIW.

Common Quote By Soviet Era Workers.

"We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us"

Further I notice who desperately these soviet workers wanted capitalism..
over a Soviet-style command economy

So it seems to me, that your issue is NOT with capitalism, but rather how
companies are run internally.

Which are two different things.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 12:21:02 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

> In 1820, 94% of the world’s population was living in extreme poverty.
> By 1910, this figure had fallen to 82%, and by 1950 the rate had
> dropped yet further, to 72%. However, the largest and fastest decline
> occurred between 1981 (44.3%) and 2015 (9.6%).

Post hoc ergo propter hoc. The actual cause is technology, particularly
anything that hugely increased productivity per person-hour of labor,
and double especially if it increased food production.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 14:22:42 -0500, Scout wrote:

> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:u872tt$10rbc$3...@dont-email.me...
>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:25:19 -0500, Scout wrote:
>>
>>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:u86eeh$ub0o$3...@dont-email.me...
>>>> The whole planet is going to hell in a handcart and all the basic
>>>> necessities of life are fast becoming unaffordable to the vast majority
>>>> of
>>>> hardworking people!
>>>
>>> Due to over regulation, taxation and spending by government.
>>
>> Ridiculous.
>
> So you think extensive regulation, high taxation and irrational spending by
> the government will provide prosperity?

Who said anything about irrational?

> When in history has that EVER happened?

If you leave out that extraneous "irrational":

Norway
Sweden
Iceland
Finland
Denmark
...

>>> But hey, if you have a better idea, set up whatever company you like and
>>> run it to whatever system you think is best..
>>
>> Most companies internally run on a Soviet-style command economy, FWIW.
>
> Common Quote By Soviet Era Workers.
>
> "We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us"

Sounds just like an Amazon warehouse today.

> So it seems to me, that your issue is NOT with capitalism, but rather how
> companies are run internally.

Oh, no, it's definitely with capitalism.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 23:20:33 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 12:21:02 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>

>> In 1820, 94% of the world?s population was living in extreme poverty.

>> By 1910, this figure had fallen to 82%, and by 1950 the rate had
>> dropped yet further, to 72%. However, the largest and fastest decline
>> occurred between 1981 (44.3%) and 2015 (9.6%).
>
>Post hoc ergo propter hoc. The actual cause is technology

Generated by capitalism.

An example of what you want:

It is estimated that 60% of the total population of North Korea live
below the poverty line in 2020.
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Poverty_in_North_Korea

>, particularly
>anything that hugely increased productivity per person-hour of labor,
>and double especially if it increased food production.

You're welcome. Capitalism is here to stay. The crushed bones of it
opponents will litter the gutters and be carted off to the landfills.

Unless we can figure out a way to make a buck off 'em.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 23:22:54 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 14:22:42 -0500, Scout wrote:
>
>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u872tt$10rbc$3...@dont-email.me...
>>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 11:25:19 -0500, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:u86eeh$ub0o$3...@dont-email.me...
>>>>> The whole planet is going to hell in a handcart and all the basic
>>>>> necessities of life are fast becoming unaffordable to the vast majority
>>>>> of
>>>>> hardworking people!
>>>>
>>>> Due to over regulation, taxation and spending by government.
>>>
>>> Ridiculous.
>>
>> So you think extensive regulation, high taxation and irrational spending by
>> the government will provide prosperity?
>
>Who said anything about irrational?

It's the theme of all your posts.

>> When in history has that EVER happened?
>
>If you leave out that extraneous "irrational":
>
>Norway
>Sweden
>Iceland
>Finland
>Denmark

All capitalist countries.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 16:25:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

> An example of what you want:
>
> It is estimated that 60% of the total population of North Korea live
> below the poverty line in 2020.
> https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Poverty_in_North_Korea

No, I don't want conditions (or government) like in North Korea.
North Korea is essentially feudal, a throwback to preindustrial times,
as far as its system of government (and its poverty rates) are
concerned.

> You're welcome. Capitalism is here to stay. The crushed bones of it
> opponents will litter the gutters and be carted off to the landfills.

Kookthreat!!1!

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Thu, 6 Jul 2023 23:32:37 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 16:25:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>
>> An example of what you want:
>>
>> It is estimated that 60% of the total population of North Korea live
>> below the poverty line in 2020.

>> https://en.wikipedia.org ? wiki ? Poverty_in_North_Korea

>
>No, I don't want conditions (or government) like in North Korea.
>North Korea is essentially feudal, a throwback to preindustrial times,
>as far as its system of government (and its poverty rates) are
>concerned.

Your socialism at work! That's what you want, that's what you get.

>> You're welcome. Capitalism is here to stay. The crushed bones of it
>> opponents will litter the gutters and be carted off to the landfills.
>>

>>Unless we can figure out a way to make a buck off 'em.

>Kookthreat!!1!

Call somebody who cares. Meanwhile, drink plenty of milk to keep those
bones strong, OK?

[Scout]

"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

news:u87iul$12gpb$2...@dont-email.me...

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 16:25:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>
>> An example of what you want:
>>
>> It is estimated that 60% of the total population of North Korea live
>> below the poverty line in 2020.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Poverty_in_North_Korea
>
> No, I don't want conditions (or government) like in North Korea.

But you want socialism..

> North Korea is essentially feudal, a throwback to preindustrial times,
> as far as its system of government (and its poverty rates) are
> concerned.

Which is what socialism is.....

[Scout]

"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

news:u87ice$12fkh$2...@dont-email.me...

Capitalistic....

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Wrong. Socialism requires the people to control the means of production.
If there's a state command economy that can only be the case if the
government is democratic, which it isn't in North Korea.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

> extensive regulation, high taxation and spending by the government

FTFY.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 15:30:21 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 07:56:04 -0500, Scout wrote:
>
>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u87iul$12gpb$2...@dont-email.me...
>>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 16:25:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>
>>>> An example of what you want:
>>>>
>>>> It is estimated that 60% of the total population of North Korea live
>>>> below the poverty line in 2020.
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Poverty_in_North_Korea
>>>
>>> No, I don't want conditions (or government) like in North Korea.
>>
>> But you want socialism..
>>
>>> North Korea is essentially feudal, a throwback to preindustrial times,
>>> as far as its system of government (and its poverty rates) are
>>> concerned.
>>
>> Which is what socialism is.....
>
>Wrong. Socialism requires the people to control the means of production.

The people *DO* control the means of production in North Korea!

Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Workers' Party of Korea
Supreme People's Assembly

Kim only does what the people of North Korea demand.

>If there's a state command economy that can only be the case if the
>government is democratic, which it isn't in North Korea.

Democratic People's Republic of Korea

This is EXACTLY what you're asking for.

[Scout]

"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

news:u89b2d$1c3ht$2...@dont-email.me...

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 07:56:04 -0500, Scout wrote:
>
>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u87iul$12gpb$2...@dont-email.me...
>>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>> On Thu, 06 Jul 2023 16:25:45 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>
>>>> An example of what you want:
>>>>
>>>> It is estimated that 60% of the total population of North Korea live
>>>> below the poverty line in 2020.
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Poverty_in_North_Korea
>>>
>>> No, I don't want conditions (or government) like in North Korea.
>>
>> But you want socialism..
>>
>>> North Korea is essentially feudal, a throwback to preindustrial times,
>>> as far as its system of government (and its poverty rates) are
>>> concerned.
>>
>> Which is what socialism is.....
>
> Wrong. Socialism requires the people to control the means of production.

And we all know how well the government does running a business.

Hell, in the US they couldn't make a profit running a whore house.

> If there's a state command economy that can only be the case if the
> government is democratic, which it isn't in North Korea.

What government run businesses in the US run at a consistent profit?

I will just note that if the country is actually democratic, then it's not
going to be socialistic because people will vote to allow themselves to run
their own businesses.

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[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 10:41:52 -0500, Scout wrote:

> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

> news:u89b2d$1c3ht$2...@dont-email.me...

>> If there's a state command economy that can only be the case if the
>> government is democratic, which it isn't in North Korea.
>
> What government run businesses in the US run at a consistent profit?

Missing the point. That's a goal of private businesses in a capitalist
system. It need not be a goal of a non-private business, let alone in a
non-capitalist system.

> I will just note that if the country is actually democratic, then it's not
> going to be socialistic because people will vote to allow themselves to run
> their own businesses.

a) Have you any proof of that?
b) Even if so, they may do so in a socialistic way, e.g. worker-owned
co-ops with no "boss class" owning the machines but not working while
everybody else works with the machines but doesn't own them.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 21:33:13 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 10:41:52 -0500, Scout wrote:
>
>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u89b2d$1c3ht$2...@dont-email.me...
>>> If there's a state command economy that can only be the case if the
>>> government is democratic, which it isn't in North Korea.
>>
>> What government run businesses in the US run at a consistent profit?
>
>Missing the point. That's a goal of private businesses in a capitalist
>system. It need not be a goal of a non-private business, let alone in a
>non-capitalist system.

If you don't profit, you fail.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Again, that is only true within the limited scope of a private business in
a capitalist system.

That you seem to be incapable of even conceiving of anything existing
outside of that context and having different goals and different metrics
for success is one of the things that marks you out as one of our premier
remaining Usenet kooks, KKKlaus.

<snicker>

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 14:29:48 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda

<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 15:00:18 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>
>> [Default] On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 21:33:13 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>
>>>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>>On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 10:41:52 -0500, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:u89b2d$1c3ht$2...@dont-email.me...
>>>>> If there's a state command economy that can only be the case if the
>>>>> government is democratic, which it isn't in North Korea.
>>>>
>>>> What government run businesses in the US run at a consistent profit?
>>>
>>>Missing the point. That's a goal of private businesses in a capitalist
>>>system. It need not be a goal of a non-private business, let alone in a
>>>non-capitalist system.
>>
>> If you don't profit, you fail.
>
>Again, that is only true within the limited scope of a private business in
>a capitalist system.

No, it's true for everything.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:29:48 +0000, Nadegda wrote:

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 15:00:18 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>
>> [Default] On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 21:33:13 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>
>>>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>>On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 10:41:52 -0500, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:u89b2d$1c3ht$2...@dont-email.me...
>>>>> If there's a state command economy that can only be the case if the
>>>>> government is democratic, which it isn't in North Korea.
>>>>
>>>> What government run businesses in the US run at a consistent profit?
>>>
>>>Missing the point. That's a goal of private businesses in a capitalist
>>>system. It need not be a goal of a non-private business, let alone in a
>>>non-capitalist system.
>>
>> If you don't profit, you fail.
>
> Again, that is only true within the limited scope of a private business in
> a capitalist system.
>
> That you seem to be incapable of even conceiving of anything existing
> outside of that context and having different goals and different metrics
> for success is one of the things that marks you out as one of our premier
> remaining Usenet kooks, KKKlaus.
>
> <snicker>

KKKooky KKKlaus ran up the white flag in response to this by altering the
References: header to prevent followups, tantamount to a frank admission
that he cannot give a cogent counter-argument to my position here so the
only way he could "win" is by preventing me from even posting it.

Indeed, he conceded my point by *demonstrating* it (again).

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sat, 8 Jul 2023 20:54:34 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>KKKooky KKKlaus ran up the white flag in response to this by altering the
>References: header to prevent followups, tantamount to a frank admission
>that he cannot give a cogent counter-argument to my position here so the
>only way he could "win" is by preventing me from even posting it.

Kooky Nads has let his paranoia run amuck with imagined usenet
infractions, intrigue, and laughable secret plots, all in an effort to
escape the fact that Capitalism is the best economic system and will
always be there to serve mankind, despite her whining..

LOL

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:

> Capitalism is the best economic system ...

... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.

[Skeeter]

In article <u8ed9i$24vgf$2...@dont-email.me>, nad31...@gmail.invalid
says...

>
> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>
> > Capitalism is the best economic system ...
>
> ... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.

That's how you get rich you idiot.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 13:38:58 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>
>> Capitalism is the best economic system ...
>
>... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.

It's best for EVERYONE.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Wrong.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 09:06:30 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
wrote:

> Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
> Checkmate.
>
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 13:38:58 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say the
> following:

>
>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>> On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>
>> > Capitalism is the best economic system ...
>>
>> ... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.
>

> Do you know a better system to get rich,

No, but I also don't think it's desirable. "Rich" means having way more
than the average person. Systems that allow some to be rich do so by
allowing some to exploit others, and are therefore immoral. I'd rather a
system where everyone was what we might call middle-class.

[Skeeter]

In article <u8f9v3$28evf$3...@dont-email.me>, nad31...@gmail.invalid
says...

>
> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 09:06:30 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
> wrote:
>
> > Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
> > Checkmate.
> >
> > On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 13:38:58 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say the
> > following:
> >
> >> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> >> On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
> >>
> >> > Capitalism is the best economic system ...
> >>
> >> ... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.
> >
> > Do you know a better system to get rich,
>
> No, but I also don't think it's desirable. "Rich" means having way more
> than the average person. Systems that allow some to be rich do so by
> allowing some to exploit others, and are therefore immoral. I'd rather a
> system where everyone was what we might call middle-class.

Just because you're broke is no reason to cry about it here.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 21:45:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda

<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 07:33:16 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>
>> [Default] On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 13:38:58 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>
>>>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>
>>>> Capitalism is the best economic system ...
>>>
>>>... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.
>>
>> It's best for EVERYONE.
>
>Wrong.

That's a good sig file for you.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 21:48:20 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>No, but I also don't think it's desirable. "Rich" means having way more
>than the average person. Systems that allow some to be rich do so by
>allowing some to exploit others, and are therefore immoral. I'd rather a
>system where everyone was what we might call middle-class.

ROFLMAO

Poor people like you are THERE to be exploited.

[max headroom]

In
news:cifmaid0gj60s25bo...@Rudy.Canoza.is.a.forging.cocksucking.dwarf.com,
Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> typed:

"If God didn't want them sheared, He would not have made them sheep."

[mixed nuts]

On 7/9/2023 18:36, Checkmate <mode...@jelly.time> wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate.
>
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 21:48:20 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say the

> following:
>
>
>>
>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>> On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 09:06:30 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
>>> Checkmate.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 13:38:58 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say the
>>> following:
>>>
>>>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>>> On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Capitalism is the best economic system ...
>>>>
>>>> ... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.
>>>
>>> Do you know a better system to get rich,
>>
>> No, but I also don't think it's desirable. "Rich" means having way more
>> than the average person. Systems that allow some to be rich do so by
>> allowing some to exploit others, and are therefore immoral. I'd rather a
>> system where everyone was what we might call middle-class.
>

> I'm not talking about dangerously filthy rich like George Soros, Charles
> Schwab or Bill Gates. IMO, those are three good examples of the dangers
> posed by being too damned rich beyond any reasonable needs. Everyone should
> have the means to make a few million bucks, at least. I certainly don't
> consider a million of today's dollars as "rich"... just "comfortable" for
> most people without excessive medical needs. I've got enough money to live
> on so I don't stay up nights worrying about how to make more. I don't
> "need" a bigger house or an exotic supercar. I'd "like" those things but
> they don't sufficiently motivate me. People like I mentioned earlier
> already have way more than they'll ever need. They're just greedy power-
> hungry peegs. It's not just about having expensive toys for them, it's
> about ruling the fucking world and everyone in it. I don't know of a better
> system than Capitalism to start an economy because reward is the strongest
> incentive to produce more and do it faster, but the more you make, the
> easier it becomes to make more. We've created a few monsters, but so has
> Communism. In both systems there's a certain element of corruption, the
> higher you go up the food chain.

Ya have to consider the good on both sides of the debate?

Seems like a reasonable non-Commie-Markers-democrat approach to
Hobsonesque problem solving - fight the war closest to the door or don't
fight the war at all.

--
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[mixed nuts]

On 7/10/2023 00:21, Checkmate <mode...@jelly.time> wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate.
>

> On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 21:59:29 -0400, mixed nuts had the audacity to say the

> I'd prefer that anyone intent on fighting any sort of war stays the fuck
> away from my door. If you can't fix all the fuckery in the world, try to at
> least avoid it.

Remember that time when Wally Poutine demanded to be put at the head of
the line (before countries that don't matter) so Russia could be a boss
of NATO and EU as is its right?

<https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-says-putin-wanted-to-join-alliance-early-on-in-his-rule>

That was around the time he rode F-150 (bare chested) with the other
leader of the free world Mr. Dubya (who looked into pooty-poots eyes and
saw nice things and great trustiness).

--
Grizzly H.

[Scout]

"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

news:u8a0ap$1ekjp$2...@dont-email.me...

> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 10:41:52 -0500, Scout wrote:
>
>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u89b2d$1c3ht$2...@dont-email.me...
>>> If there's a state command economy that can only be the case if the
>>> government is democratic, which it isn't in North Korea.
>>
>> What government run businesses in the US run at a consistent profit?
>
> Missing the point.

Am I?

? That's a goal of private businesses in a capitalist

> system. It need not be a goal of a non-private business, let alone in a
> non-capitalist system.

Which is why Socialist countries always end up being bankrupt.

>> I will just note that if the country is actually democratic, then it's
>> not
>> going to be socialistic because people will vote to allow themselves to
>> run
>> their own businesses.
>
> a) Have you any proof of that?

Yes, the fact that such a degree of socialism has to be forced on the
people.

> b) Even if so, they may do so in a socialistic way, e.g. worker-owned
> co-ops with no "boss class" owning the machines but not working while
> everybody else works with the machines but doesn't own them.

Yep, and we have such socialistic capitalist companies. The problem is when
you force people to become socialistic under your authoritarian system then
it's no longer a choice and the workers have absolutely NO say in what the
company does.. or even how much that will be paid.

Quote from Soviet Russia
"“We pretend to work and they pretend to pay.”

How much benefit did the workers see from their supposed ownership of the
means of production?

Waiting for hours in bread lines?

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"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

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> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 15:00:18 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>
>> [Default] On Fri, 7 Jul 2023 21:33:13 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>
>>>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>>On Fri, 07 Jul 2023 10:41:52 -0500, Scout wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:u89b2d$1c3ht$2...@dont-email.me...
>>>>> If there's a state command economy that can only be the case if the
>>>>> government is democratic, which it isn't in North Korea.
>>>>
>>>> What government run businesses in the US run at a consistent profit?
>>>
>>>Missing the point. That's a goal of private businesses in a capitalist
>>>system. It need not be a goal of a non-private business, let alone in a
>>>non-capitalist system.
>>
>> If you don't profit, you fail.
>
> Again, that is only true within the limited scope of a private business in
> a capitalist system.

That is true of any business. If you don't produce a profit, you will
eventually fail.

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"Klaus Schadenfreude" <klaus.schadenfreude.löschen.@gmail.com> wrote in
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Bingo

Socialism survives only so long as Capitalism is there to support it.

I will simply note that under a Capitalist system there is NOTHING to keep
Nads from starting a company along the Socialistic system she envisions.

HOWEVER, the same isn't true under Socialism.

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"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

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> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>
>> Capitalism is the best economic system ...
>
> ... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.

How do you think people get richer?

It's certainly not under socialism.

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"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

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> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 07:33:16 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>
>> [Default] On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 13:38:58 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>
>>>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>>On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>
>>>> Capitalism is the best economic system ...
>>>
>>>... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.
>>
>> It's best for EVERYONE.
>
> Wrong.

Ok.. we will take all your income, and then we will decide what your
standard of living should be....

That works for me, I bet Klaus will agree that works for him.. and since
there are more of us.. that works for you.

So assign all your income to us and we will decide how much you are actually
worth.

....or don't you want socialism?

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"Checkmate <mode...@jelly.time>" <oo.dave...@ass.worm> wrote in
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> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate.
>

> On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 13:38:58 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say
> the
> following:
>
>
>>

>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>> On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>
>> > Capitalism is the best economic system ...
>>
>> ... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.
>

> Do you know a better system to get rich, other than Communist corruption,
> CCP-style?

It's great as long as you toe the party line and manage to get 'sponsored'
into the upper levels of the party.. otherwise you're just a replaceable and
irrelevant cog in their machine.

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"Nadegda" <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote in message

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> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
> On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 09:06:30 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
> wrote:
>
>> Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
>> Checkmate.
>>
>> On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 13:38:58 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say
>> the
>> following:
>>
>>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>>> On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>>>
>>> > Capitalism is the best economic system ...
>>>
>>> ... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.
>>
>> Do you know a better system to get rich,
>
> No, but I also don't think it's desirable. "Rich" means having way more
> than the average person.

So what 'socialist' system has EVER paid everyone the same?

Should a doctor make what the guy who mops the floor does?

Why should anyone work to achieve if there is no positive result?

>Systems that allow some to be rich do so by
> allowing some to exploit others

Which regularly happens in socialist systems.

>, and are therefore immoral.

So socialism is immoral?

> I'd rather a
> system where everyone was what we might call middle-class.

Great.. I really want a middle-class doctor trying to save my life.

I might as well have the mop guy in, would probably do just about as well.

[Janithor]

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On 7/10/2023 4:14 PM, Checkmate <mode...@jelly.time> wrote:
> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate.
>

> On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 07:32:26 -0400, mixed nuts had the audacity to say the
> following:

>> Remember that time when Wally Poutine demanded to be put at the head of
>> the line (before countries that don't matter) so Russia could be a boss
>> of NATO and EU as is its right?
>>
>> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-says-putin-wanted-to-join-alliance-early-on-in-his-rule>
>>
>> That was around the time he rode F-150 (bare chested) with the other
>> leader of the free world Mr. Dubya (who looked into pooty-poots eyes and
>> saw nice things and great trustiness).
>

> Looking into Pootin's eyes is like looking into the eyes of a Great White...
> completely soulless. He strikes me as someone who can always appear cool,
> calm, and collected on the outside, but constantly calculating on the
> inside. He's probably one hell of a poker player. I have a lot of respect
> for his demeanor, intelligents [sic] and knowledge of history, but he lost a
> lot of capital when he decided to attack Ukraine. Of course I'll never know
> the full extent of CIA fuckery that conceivably/allegedly prompted him to do
> it. It seems that maybe he's far less popular amongst his fellow Rooskies
> than he thought he was. I suspect he didn't really stop another revolt, he
> merely postponed it.
>
> BTW, have you noticed the whole world is sort of fucked right now? What a
> great time to be old!


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-bill-california-mandate-judges-consider-race-when-doling-out-prison-sentences

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 15:36:17 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>

wrote:

> Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
> Checkmate.
>

> On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 21:48:20 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say the

> following:
>
>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>> On Sun, 09 Jul 2023 09:06:30 -0700, Checkmate <rode...@jerry.time>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
>> > Checkmate.
>> >
>> > On Sun, 9 Jul 2023 13:38:58 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say the
>> > following:
>> >
>> >> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>> >> On Sat, 08 Jul 2023 14:43:43 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Capitalism is the best economic system ...
>> >>
>> >> ... if you're rich. Otherwise, not so much.
>> >
>> > Do you know a better system to get rich,
>>
>> No, but I also don't think it's desirable. "Rich" means having way more
>> than the average person. Systems that allow some to be rich do so by
>> allowing some to exploit others, and are therefore immoral. I'd rather a
>> system where everyone was what we might call middle-class.
>

> I'm not talking about dangerously filthy rich like George Soros, Charles
> Schwab or Bill Gates. IMO, those are three good examples of the dangers
> posed by being too damned rich beyond any reasonable needs. Everyone should
> have the means to make a few million bucks, at least. I certainly don't
> consider a million of today's dollars as "rich"... just "comfortable" for
> most people without excessive medical needs. I've got enough money to live
> on so I don't stay up nights worrying about how to make more. I don't
> "need" a bigger house or an exotic supercar. I'd "like" those things but
> they don't sufficiently motivate me. People like I mentioned earlier
> already have way more than they'll ever need. They're just greedy power-
> hungry peegs. It's not just about having expensive toys for them, it's
> about ruling the fucking world and everyone in it.

Wholeheartedly agree.

Welcome aboard, Comrade!

<snicker>

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 08:37:06 -0500, Scout wrote:

> Should a doctor make what the guy who mops the floor does?
>
> Why should anyone work to achieve if there is no positive result?

Do you honestly think most people who become doctors do so to make
more money, rather than because it is a calling for them?

The people of the real world are /Homo sapiens/, not the mythical
/Homo economicus/ of Milton Friedmann's dreams.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Inheritance. Luck. Ruthlessness.

Why do you think the rich hate democracy so much and work so hard to
undermine it? Because democracy is 5 million sheep and a couple of hundred
wolves voting on what to have for dinner.