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Unum
Feb 18, 2024, 11:37:35 PMFeb 18
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https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/02/skyrocketing-ocean-temperatures-have-scientists-scratching-their-heads/
For nearly a year now, a bizarre heating event has been unfolding across the
world’s oceans. In March 2023, global sea surface temperatures started
shattering record daily highs and have stayed that way since.
You can see 2023 in the orange line below, the other gray lines being previous
years. That solid black line is where we are so far in 2024—way, way above
even 2023. While we’re nowhere near the Atlantic hurricane season yet—that
runs from June 1 through the autumn—keep in mind that cyclones feed on warm
ocean water, which could well stay anomalously hot in the coming months.
Regardless, these surface temperature anomalies could be triggering major
ecological problems already.
You’ll notice from these graphs and maps that the temperature anomalies may be
a degree or two Celsius warmer, which may not sound like much. But for the
seas, it really is: Unlike land, which rapidly heats and cools as day turns to
night and back again, it takes a lot to warm up an ocean that may be thousands
of feet deep. So even an anomaly of mere fractions of a degree is significant.
“To get into the two or three or four degrees, like it is in a few places,
it’s pretty exceptional,”
For nearly a year now, a bizarre heating event has been unfolding across the
world’s oceans. In March 2023, global sea surface temperatures started
shattering record daily highs and have stayed that way since.
You can see 2023 in the orange line below, the other gray lines being previous
years. That solid black line is where we are so far in 2024—way, way above
even 2023. While we’re nowhere near the Atlantic hurricane season yet—that
runs from June 1 through the autumn—keep in mind that cyclones feed on warm
ocean water, which could well stay anomalously hot in the coming months.
Regardless, these surface temperature anomalies could be triggering major
ecological problems already.
You’ll notice from these graphs and maps that the temperature anomalies may be
a degree or two Celsius warmer, which may not sound like much. But for the
seas, it really is: Unlike land, which rapidly heats and cools as day turns to
night and back again, it takes a lot to warm up an ocean that may be thousands
of feet deep. So even an anomaly of mere fractions of a degree is significant.
“To get into the two or three or four degrees, like it is in a few places,
it’s pretty exceptional,”
Paul Aubrin
Feb 19, 2024, 3:03:51 AMFeb 19
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hypothesis, it would be an interesting confirmation in favor of that
hypothesis. If no previous hypothesis predicted this surge, it disproves
those hypothesis.
Unum
Feb 19, 2024, 2:42:59 PMFeb 19
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R Kym Horsell
Feb 19, 2024, 11:19:54 PMFeb 19
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Unum <non...@yourbusiness.com> wrote:
> On 2/19/2024 2:03 AM, /D\ wrote:
...
a big hike in temps in the "new 3-4 years". That was a few years back.
Reasons were given in the articles.
So it was in fact predicted by an expert but as usual the usual dimwits
were asleep and dont remember it.
This is why the lawyers just let deniers have their heads in court.
Sit back and relax and they will hang themselves with their own words.
It apparently cost one guy $400 mn in a recent case.
--
Still, you have to admit: for a hoax, [Climate Change has] got
excellent production values.
Consider the last few weeks. Someone turned on the rain machine up in
Duluth, Minnesota, where they broke all their old rainfall records
(and in an excellent cinematic touch flooded the city zoo with so much
water that the seal escaped and swam down the road. You can make this
stuff up). And when that was over, the production team hastened to the
Gulf of Mexico, turning on the giant fans to conjure up Tropical Storm
Debby-the earliest fourth storm of the season ever recorded, which
dumped "unthinkable amounts of rain" on central Florida. (Giveaway
movie moment: the nine-foot gator that washed into a Tampa swimming pool).
-- Bill McKibben, 3 Jun 2012
> On 2/19/2024 2:03 AM, /D\ wrote:
...
>> it would be an interesting confirmation in favor of that hypothesis. If no
>> previous hypothesis predicted this surge, it disproves those hypothesis.
> Nothing was said about a "hypothesis", dimwit. It is a set of observations.
I remember posting articles from Hansen's newsletter where he predictde
>> previous hypothesis predicted this surge, it disproves those hypothesis.
> Nothing was said about a "hypothesis", dimwit. It is a set of observations.
a big hike in temps in the "new 3-4 years". That was a few years back.
Reasons were given in the articles.
So it was in fact predicted by an expert but as usual the usual dimwits
were asleep and dont remember it.
This is why the lawyers just let deniers have their heads in court.
Sit back and relax and they will hang themselves with their own words.
It apparently cost one guy $400 mn in a recent case.
--
Still, you have to admit: for a hoax, [Climate Change has] got
excellent production values.
Consider the last few weeks. Someone turned on the rain machine up in
Duluth, Minnesota, where they broke all their old rainfall records
(and in an excellent cinematic touch flooded the city zoo with so much
water that the seal escaped and swam down the road. You can make this
stuff up). And when that was over, the production team hastened to the
Gulf of Mexico, turning on the giant fans to conjure up Tropical Storm
Debby-the earliest fourth storm of the season ever recorded, which
dumped "unthinkable amounts of rain" on central Florida. (Giveaway
movie moment: the nine-foot gator that washed into a Tampa swimming pool).
-- Bill McKibben, 3 Jun 2012
Paul Aubrin
Feb 20, 2024, 3:11:46 AMFeb 20
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Le 19/02/2024 à 20:42, Unum a écrit :
>> If such a temperature surge had been predicted by one (or another)
>> hypothesis, it would be an interesting confirmation in favor of that
>> hypothesis. If no previous hypothesis predicted this surge, it
>> disproves those hypothesis.
>
> Nothing was said about a "hypothesis", dimwit. It is a set of observations.
No climate model predicted those "skyrocketing" temperature VARIATIONS.
>> If such a temperature surge had been predicted by one (or another)
>> hypothesis, it would be an interesting confirmation in favor of that
>> hypothesis. If no previous hypothesis predicted this surge, it
>> disproves those hypothesis.
>
> Nothing was said about a "hypothesis", dimwit. It is a set of observations.
So they result from unknown causes (not included in those models).
Unum
Feb 20, 2024, 10:29:51 AMFeb 20
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On 2/19/2024 10:19 PM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
> Unum <non...@yourbusiness.com> wrote:
>> On 2/19/2024 2:03 AM, /D\ wrote:
> ...
>>> it would be an interesting confirmation in favor of that hypothesis. If no
>>> previous hypothesis predicted this surge, it disproves those hypothesis.
>> Nothing was said about a "hypothesis", dimwit. It is a set of observations.
>
> I remember posting articles from Hansen's newsletter where he predictde
> a big hike in temps in the "new 3-4 years". That was a few years back.
> Reasons were given in the articles.
> So it was in fact predicted by an expert but as usual the usual dimwits
> were asleep and dont remember it.
> This is why the lawyers just let deniers have their heads in court.
> Sit back and relax and they will hang themselves with their own words.
> It apparently cost one guy $400 mn in a recent case.
>
Between now and 2040, he wrote that he expects the climate’s rate of warming
> Unum <non...@yourbusiness.com> wrote:
>> On 2/19/2024 2:03 AM, /D\ wrote:
> ...
>>> it would be an interesting confirmation in favor of that hypothesis. If no
>>> previous hypothesis predicted this surge, it disproves those hypothesis.
>> Nothing was said about a "hypothesis", dimwit. It is a set of observations.
>
> I remember posting articles from Hansen's newsletter where he predictde
> a big hike in temps in the "new 3-4 years". That was a few years back.
> Reasons were given in the articles.
> So it was in fact predicted by an expert but as usual the usual dimwits
> were asleep and dont remember it.
> This is why the lawyers just let deniers have their heads in court.
> Sit back and relax and they will hang themselves with their own words.
> It apparently cost one guy $400 mn in a recent case.
>
to double in an “acceleration that can be traced to aerosols.”
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/15092021/global-warming-james-hansen-aerosols/
Unum
Feb 20, 2024, 10:30:09 AMFeb 20
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JTEM is Remarkably Flexible
Feb 20, 2024, 2:41:18 PMFeb 20
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Unum wrote:
> For nearly a year now, a bizarre heating event has been unfolding across the
> world’s oceans.
Here on this planet, the Earth, we had a triple-dip La Nina,
> For nearly a year now, a bizarre heating event has been unfolding across the
> world’s oceans.
COLDER THAN NORMAL OCEAN TEMPERATURES, followed
by a tiny little mouse fart of an El Nino. La Ninas -- COLDER
THAN NORMAL OCEAN TEMPERATURES -- have been
more common than El Ninos over the last half century or
more.
Everything is EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what you wretched
douche bags claim.
> In March 2023, global sea surface temperatures started
> shattering record daily highs and have stayed that way since.
aren't that way now, much less have been in the last year. It's
all just fake news.
How do I know? Because it's cold. It's not warm much less
hot. And to heat up the ocean takes -- now get this -- heat.
But it's not hot.
There's literally no heat to make the ocean "Record hot."
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JTEM is Remarkably Flexible
Feb 20, 2024, 2:55:03 PMFeb 20
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Paul Aubrin wrote:
> If such a temperature surge had been predicted by one (or another)
> hypothesis, it would be an interesting confirmation in favor of that
> hypothesis. If no previous hypothesis predicted this surge, it disproves
> those hypothesis.
Assuming that there's a chance that the whole story isn't completely
> If such a temperature surge had been predicted by one (or another)
> hypothesis, it would be an interesting confirmation in favor of that
> hypothesis. If no previous hypothesis predicted this surge, it disproves
> those hypothesis.
made up, the "Data" fake, it's a classic example of mistaking "Weather"
for "Climate."
You made a good point. They are literally saying that their models
are shit:
: Skyrocketing ocean temperatures have scientists scratching their heads
Why would they be "Scratching their heads" if they have accurate models?
And where did all this heat come from? To warm up soup, you put it on
the stove. You need a heat source. And if the planet earth is literally being
cooked here, as the nutters claim, why aren't the rest of us hot?
...I ran out this morning, it was 20F -- 12 degrees below the freezing
point! Which, granted, is only negative 6.7 or so Celsius...
"We're so hot that it's cold!"
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