El Niño Is About to Accelerate the Global Climate Crisis. It’s Time for Action.

[Nadegda]

I have been asked by kensi to post a few links here on her behalf, partly
as a "fuck you" to the shadowy forces that have been working to censor her
for the past several months, and partly just to keep building awareness of
this urgent issue:

https://truthout.org/articles/el-nino-is-about-to-accelerate-the-global-climate-crisis-its-time-for-action/

https://truthout.org/articles/mt-climate-trial-plaintiff-climate-change-has-impacted-my-ability-to-breathe/

https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanoxia/2023/06/22/video-meteorologist-resigns-following-right-wing-threats-over-climate-change-coverage/

https://truthout.org/articles/scientists-warn-accelerated-himalayan-glacier-melt-threatens-lives-of-billions/

https://truthout.org/articles/environmental-groups-urge-epa-action-on-methane-emissions-from-landfills/

--
FNVWe Nadegda

"By all means, compare these shitheads to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with
you." -- Mike Godwin, Aug 13, 2017, 8:03 PM
Checkmate admits that, for all intents and purposes, he carries a teddy
bear in public: <d6cnes.k...@news.alt.net>

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 17:43:40 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>I have been asked by kensi to post a few links here on her behalf, partly
>as a "fuck you" to the shadowy forces that have been working to censor her
>for the past several months

<snicker>

>, and partly just to keep building awareness of
>this urgent issue:
>
>https://truthout.org

LOL

I am taking action.

DRASTIC action.

I have my freezer filled with nice cuts of meat for daily charcoal
barbecuing.

<signed>
Shadowy Forces

[Just Wondering]

On 6/24/2023 11:43 AM, Nadegda wrote:
> I have been asked by kensi to post a few links here on her behalf, partly
> as a "fuck you" to the shadowy forces that have been working to censor her
> for the past several months, and partly just to keep building awareness of
> this urgent issue:
> https://truthout.org/articles/el-nino-is-about-to-accelerate-the-global-climate-crisis-its-time-for-action/
> https://truthout.org/articles/mt-climate-trial-plaintiff-climate-change-has-impacted-my-ability-to-breathe/
> https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanoxia/2023/06/22/video-meteorologist-resigns-following-right-wing-threats-over-climate-change-coverage/
> https://truthout.org/articles/scientists-warn-accelerated-himalayan-glacier-melt-threatens-lives-of-billions/
> https://truthout.org/articles/environmental-groups-urge-epa-action-on-methane-emissions-from-landfills/
>

"Overall, we rate Truthout strongly Left Biased based on story selection
and political positions that favor the left. We also rate them Mixed for
factual reporting due to publishing a false story and promoting anti-GMO
propaganda." https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/truth-out/

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

So, you admit to involvement in the efforts to silence kensi. Noted.

[whetherbot]

On 24 Jun 2023, Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> posted some
news:u77a0c$3m66m$1...@dont-email.me:

> I have been asked by kensi to post a few links here on her behalf,

El Nino is a natural climate phenomenon marked by warmer-than-average sea
surface temperatures in the central and eastern Pacific Ocean near the
equator, which occurs on average every 2-7 years. El Nino's impacts on the
climate extend far beyond the Pacific Ocean.

Other than the event has a name, it means nothing really.

[Joel]

Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:

>So, you admit to involvement in the efforts to silence kensi. Noted.

How is anyone getting silenced on Usenet? Without breaking one of the
very few rules that servers have?

--
Joel Crump

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 12:00:53 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:

> On 6/24/2023 11:43 AM, Nadegda wrote:
>> I have been asked by kensi to post a few links here on her behalf, partly
>> as a "fuck you" to the shadowy forces that have been working to censor her
>> for the past several months, and partly just to keep building awareness of
>> this urgent issue:
>> https://truthout.org/articles/el-nino-is-about-to-accelerate-the-global-climate-crisis-its-time-for-action/
>> https://truthout.org/articles/mt-climate-trial-plaintiff-climate-change-has-impacted-my-ability-to-breathe/
>> https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanoxia/2023/06/22/video-meteorologist-resigns-following-right-wing-threats-over-climate-change-coverage/
>> https://truthout.org/articles/scientists-warn-accelerated-himalayan-glacier-melt-threatens-lives-of-billions/
>> https://truthout.org/articles/environmental-groups-urge-epa-action-on-methane-emissions-from-landfills/
>
> "Overall, we rate Truthout strongly Left Biased based on story selection
> and political positions that favor the left.

Reality has a notorious left wing bias.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

In case you were unaware, since early this year there has been a
conspiracy to outright shut down any server that kensi has ever posted
through. The conspirators destroyed AIOE earlier this year and have now
used complaint-brigading tactics to get mixmin's network connection
yanked. They also orchestrated campaigns to force neodome and several other
servers to go read-only. It's clear that she's pissed off some powerful
people, probably in the fossil fuel industry, and they've offered some of
their paid shills around here extra bonus cash if they can shut her up for
good.

Boy, are they *ever* in for an unpleasant surprise ...

<snicker>

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 18:01:53 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda

<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 10:53:22 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>
>> [Default] On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 17:43:40 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>
>>>I have been asked by kensi to post a few links here on her behalf, partly
>>>as a "fuck you" to the shadowy forces that have been working to censor her
>>>for the past several months
>>
>> <snicker>
>>
>>>, and partly just to keep building awareness of
>>>this urgent issue:
>>>
>>>https://truthout.org
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> I am taking action.
>>
>> DRASTIC action.
>>
>> I have my freezer filled with nice cuts of meat for daily charcoal
>> barbecuing.
>>
>> <signed>
>> Shadowy Forces
>
>So, you admit to involvement in the efforts to silence kensi. Noted.

Of course. It's not just your psychotic, rampant paranoia*.

Big Oil Big Pharma, and all the Other Bigs pay me handsomely to stop
the spread of Climate Truth so we can continue to plunder the Earth,
ravage the economy, and enslave the populace.

I thought you knew that.
























* Or is it?

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 18:11:59 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
>On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 14:04:40 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> So, you admit to involvement in the efforts to silence kensi. Noted.
>>
>> How is anyone getting silenced on Usenet? Without breaking one of the
>> very few rules that servers have?
>
>In case you were unaware, since early this year there has been a
>conspiracy to outright shut down any server that kensi has ever posted
>through. The conspirators destroyed AIOE earlier this year and have now
>used complaint-brigading tactics to get mixmin's network connection
>yanked. They also orchestrated campaigns to force neodome and several other
>servers to go read-only. It's clear that she's pissed off some powerful
>people, probably in the fossil fuel industry, and they've offered some of
>their paid shills around here extra bonus cash if they can shut her up for
>good.
>
>Boy, are they *ever* in for an unpleasant surprise ...
>
><snicker>

I can't wait! LOL

Because, you know, he's convinced SO many people here.

[chuckle]

[Bret Cahill]

It certainly is time for action. Get in shape for El Nino storm surfing ASAP!

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2023/06/22/surfing-seal-moos-cprog-orig-bdk.cnn

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 14:04:40 -0400, Joel
<joel...@gmail.com> typed:

While Kensi and his socks are waiting for their electric cars to
charge up, the Shadowy Forces can just jump in their smelly gasoline
cars and head off to disrupt usenet communications.

[max headroom]

In news:u77b2h$3m66m$1...@dont-email.me, Nadegda the Liar
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 10:53:22 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:

>> [Default] On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 17:43:40 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda the Liar
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> trolled:

>>> I have been asked by kensi to post a few links here on her behalf, partly
>>> as a "fuck you" to the shadowy forces that have been working to censor her
>>> for the past several months

>> <snicker>

>>> , and partly just to keep building awareness of
>>> this urgent issue:

>>> https://truthout.org

>> LOL

>> I am taking action.

>> DRASTIC action.

>> I have my freezer filled with nice cuts of meat for daily charcoal
>> barbecuing.

>> <signed>
>> Shadowy Forces

> So, you admit to involvement in the efforts to silence kensi. Noted.

We have a new entrant in the "Non Sequitur Supreme" field, folks!

Watch out, Siri-- you have competition!

[max headroom]

In news:u77blf$3m66m$2...@dont-email.me, Nadegda the Liar
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 14:04:40 -0400, Joel wrote:
>> Nadegda the Liar <nad31...@gmail.invalid> wrote:

>>> So, you admit to involvement in the efforts to silence kensi. Noted.

>> How is anyone getting silenced on Usenet? Without breaking one of the
>> very few rules that servers have?

> In case you were unaware, since early this year there has been a
> conspiracy to outright shut down any server that kensi has ever posted
> through. The conspirators destroyed AIOE earlier this year and have now
> used complaint-brigading tactics to get mixmin's network connection
> yanked. They also orchestrated campaigns to force neodome and several other
> servers to go read-only. It's clear that she's pissed off some powerful
> people, probably in the fossil fuel industry, and they've offered some of
> their paid shills around here extra bonus cash if they can shut her up for
> good.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahha... whew!

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 11:50:14 -0700, max headshroom was high on his own supply:

> We have a new entrant in the "Non Sequitur Supreme" field, folks!

How ironic.

[El Zero]

On 24 Jun 2023, Nadegda <nad31...@gmail.invalid> posted some

news:u77ifq$3m66m$2...@dont-email.me:

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 11:50:14 -0700, max headshroom was high on
> his own supply:
>
>> We have a new entrant in the "Non Sequitur Supreme" field, folks!
>
> How ironic.

How long has El Niño existed?

South American fishermen first noticed periods of unusually warm water in
the Pacific Ocean in the 1600s. The full name they used was El Niño de
Navidad, because El Niño typically peaks around December. El Niño can
affect our weather significantly.

[Scout]

"max headroom" <maximus...@gmx.com> wrote in message
news:u77dur$6bs7$3...@dont-email.me...

Bet he finally found out how many tons of CO2 emissions each of his posts
were producing.. so decided to hold his breath until CO2 levels dropped.

[Byker]

"El Zero" wrote in message
news:2403c24f3206ab48...@dizum.com...

>
> How long has El Niño existed?

Since the end of the last Ice Age. The Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas knew all
about it long before the conquistadors arrived.

BTW, what were the carbon levels in 1876-78?: https://tinyurl.com/mtb32mtd

[Charlie Glock]

Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.
Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.
It has far less to do with man and far more to do with the cycles of nature.



--
Charlie Glock
"To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
-- Adolf Hitler

[Siri Cruise]

Charlie Glock wrote:
> Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.

Long before farming?

> Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.

Yeah, people starved, but so what.

--
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.O / \
of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

[Sn!pe]

Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

> Charlie Glock wrote:
> > Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.
>
> Long before farming?
>
> > Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.
>
> Yeah, people starved, but so what.

The absurd thing is: given that much of climate change is a result of
the natural cycle of ice ages and interglacials, some people think that
by reducing anthropogenic CO2 production we can actually do anything
about reversing that change. We may as well be farting in a hurricane
for all the good it might do. Come back King Canute; all is forgiven!

IMO "Net Zero CO2" is futile; not much more than a cynical money-making
scheme for the benefit of our masters, and aren't they just coining it.

--
^Ï^. – Sn!pe – <https://youtu.be/_kqytf31a8E>

My pet rock Gordon just is.

[Charlie Glock]

On 2023-07-02, Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> Charlie Glock wrote:
>> Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.
>
> Long before farming?
>
>> Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.
>
> Yeah, people starved, but so what.
>

U are beyond help.
So vote crazy Joe Biden.
Good luck with that.

[🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈]

On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 23:56:12 GMT, LO AND BEHOLD; Charlie Glock <"Charlie
Glock"@localhost.com> determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<w8ooM.11197$65y6...@fx17.iad>:

=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On 2023-07-02, Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Charlie Glock wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Long before farming?
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Yeah, people starved, but so what.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= U are beyond help. So vote crazy Joe Biden. Good luck with that.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

Wait, I thought Trump was the "real president", aka "rPOTUS"?

Are you little MAGA Jan 6th poop-smearin' shitweasels not in agreement, these days?

--

Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016

[Siri Cruise]

Sn!pe wrote:
> Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Charlie Glock wrote:
>>> Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.
>>
>> Long before farming?
>>
>>> Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.
>>
>> Yeah, people starved, but so what.
>
> The absurd thing is: given that much of climate change is a result of

Why gamble with famine? Reducing carbon dioxide has other
benefits, so why risk agriculture when we don't need to.

> the natural cycle of ice ages and interglacials, some people think that
> by reducing anthropogenic CO2 production we can actually do anything

Reducing carbon dioxide production will mean getting the US out of
endless middle east wars. I wouldn't mind telling KSA, Israel,
Iran, and the rest to bugger off, we don't want your oil, so
continue killing each other without us.

And going green reduces the amount of poison we dump in the air,
water, and soil.

> about reversing that change. We may as well be farting in a hurricane
> for all the good it might do. Come back King Canute; all is forgiven!
>
> IMO "Net Zero CO2" is futile; not much more than a cynical money-making
> scheme for the benefit of our masters, and aren't they just coining it.

Going green is pushed in California to reduce the air pollution.
Even before the Spanish settled, California had smog problems from
Indian domestic fires. Reducing carbon dioxide reduces nitrogen
oxide and other pollutants that poison our children.

I really don't know or care about global warming. I want to stop
pretending it's a chore to send our young off to war. A big f**k
you to south asia, and stop killing our own people here.

(California is made up of basins surrounded by hills and
mountains. Thanks to the cold water current of the Pacific, we get
frequent inversions over basins. Any smoke and air pollution gets
trapped in the air of basins, unable to rise through the inversion
and get blown away over the hills.)

[Siri Cruise]

Charlie Glock wrote:
> On 2023-07-02, Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Charlie Glock wrote:
>>> Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.
>>
>> Long before farming?
>>
>>> Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.
>>
>> Yeah, people starved, but so what.
>>
>
> U are beyond help.
> So vote crazy Joe Biden.
> Good luck with that.

I don't vote for conservatives.

[mixed nuts]

Sir, you seem to have a deep natural understanding of natural cycle. Are
you a genius professor at a major research university in the Department
of Natural Understanding of Natural Cycle? Are you, perhaps, the
Chairperson of the Subdepartment of Super-Geniousing and Other Matters
of Concern?

--
Grizzly H.

[Janithor]

x-no-archive: yes

He's a Trump-voting Pentecostal speaking-in-tongues MAGA Nazi.
Scientifically deduced, of course. The poor schmuck, he doesn't
understand scientific socialism. It's all very scientific. Abolish!

[Governor Swill]

So? What does El Nino, La Nina have to do with global warming?

Swill
--
Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit!

Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 22:29:45 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:

>Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.
>Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.
>It has far less to do with man and far more to do with the cycles of nature.

Pretty much to be expected from a guy whose sig file is a lie.

>Charlie Glock
>"To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"

>Adolf Hitler

[Governor Swill]

Where did you get your degree in climate science?

[Siri Cruise]

Our most fervent idjt voters all live in England.

[Sn!pe]

Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
[...]

> >>> IMO "Net Zero CO2" is futile; not much more than a cynical
> >>> money-making scheme for the benefit of our masters, and
> >>> aren't they just coining it.
> >>
> >> Sir, you seem to have a deep natural understanding of natural
> >> cycle. Are you a genius professor at a major research university
> >> in the Department of Natural Understanding of Natural Cycle?
> >> Are you, perhaps, the Chairperson of the Subdepartment of
> >> Super-Geniousing and Other Matters of Concern?
> >
> > He's a Trump-voting Pentecostal speaking-in-tongues MAGA Nazi.
> > Scientifically deduced, of course. The poor schmuck, he doesn't
> > understand scientific socialism. It's all very scientific. Abolish!
>
> Our most fervent idjt voters all live in England.

[preen]

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 00:12:08 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 00:43:28 +0100, snip...@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
>
>>Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie Glock wrote:
>>> > Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.
>>>
>>> Long before farming?
>>>
>>> > Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.
>>>
>>> Yeah, people starved, but so what.
>>
>>The absurd thing is: given that much of climate change is a result of
>>the natural cycle of ice ages and interglacials, some people think that
>>by reducing anthropogenic CO2 production we can actually do anything
>>about reversing that change. We may as well be farting in a hurricane
>>for all the good it might do. Come back King Canute; all is forgiven!
>>
>>IMO "Net Zero CO2" is futile; not much more than a cynical money-making
>>scheme for the benefit of our masters, and aren't they just coining it.
>
> Where did you get your degree in climate science?

The University of Lexmark.

<snicker>

[🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈Jen🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈]

On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 12:00:45 -0000 (UTC), LO AND BEHOLD; Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> determined that the following was of great

importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in

<u7ud9d$3mlkl$3...@dont-email.me>:

=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 00:12:08 -0400, Governor Swill wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 00:43:28 +0100, snip...@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Charlie Glock wrote:
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Long before farming?
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Yeah, people starved, but so what.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= The absurd thing is: given that much of climate change is a result of
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= the natural cycle of ice ages and interglacials, some people think that
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= by reducing anthropogenic CO2 production we can actually do anything
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= about reversing that change. We may as well be farting in a hurricane
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= for all the good it might do. Come back King Canute; all is forgiven!
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= IMO "Net Zero CO2" is futile; not much more than a cynical money-making
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= scheme for the benefit of our masters, and aren't they just coining it.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Where did you get your degree in climate science?
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= The University of Lexmark.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= <💩snickerTurd💩>
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

And so did you and Kenz meet at the University of Xerox?

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 18:25:55 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>(California is made up of basins surrounded by hills and
>mountains. Thanks to the cold water current of the Pacific, we get
>frequent inversions over basins. Any smoke and air pollution gets
>trapped in the air of basins, unable to rise through the inversion
>and get blown away over the hills.)

This is why geography really is relevant. It also explains why the kids who ignored
geography in school grew up to become Republicans.

[Sn!pe]

That's a lot of conflation going on there. By all means have those
worthy aims but it obscures the debate to lump it all in together.

[Byker]

"Governor Swill" wrote in message
news:bei4aihojcmv4kjte...@4ax.com...

On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 17:26:17 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

>>"El Zero" wrote in message
>>news:2403c24f3206ab48...@dizum.com...
>>>
>>> How long has El Niño existed?
>>
>>Since the end of the last Ice Age. The Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas knew all
>>about it long before the conquistadors arrived.
>>
>>BTW, what were the carbon levels in 1876-78?: https://tinyurl.com/mtb32mtd
>
> So? What does El Nino, La Nina have to do with global warming?

You'll have to ask the lamers, flamers, and forgers about that one...

[Governor Swill]

She was explaining that California's green push has less to do with Climate Change and
more to do with local pollution. It's been that way since the 1960s.

[Governor Swill]

And since they haven't answered . . .

[Sn!pe]

Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Sn!pe]

> >That's a lot of conflation going on there. By all means have those
> >worthy aims but it obscures the debate to lump it all in together.
>
> She was explaining that California's green push has less to do with
> Climate Change and more to do with local pollution. It's been that
> way since the 1960s.

Of course, but that is hijacking the thread and taking it into other
topics. The subject is El Niño and its effect (or otherwise) on
"Global Warming". I can't imagine that Siri really intended to
perpetrate a "But What About".

[xdmod2]

"Siri Cruise" <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u7t849$3j2n0$2...@dont-email.me...

> Charlie Glock wrote:
>> On 2023-07-02, Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Charlie Glock wrote:
>>>> Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.
>>>
>>> Long before farming?
>>>
>>>> Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.
>>>
>>> Yeah, people starved, but so what.
>>>
>>
>> U are beyond help.
>> So vote crazy Joe Biden.
>> Good luck with that.
> I don't vote for conservatives.

Dude, you will vote for the person you think will cause the highest body
count.

[xdmod2]

"Governor Swill" <governo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:dbp6ai1vdgdgnob36...@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 18:05:02 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
>
>>"Governor Swill" wrote in message
>>news:bei4aihojcmv4kjte...@4ax.com...
>>
>>On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 17:26:17 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>"El Zero" wrote in message
>>>>news:2403c24f3206ab48...@dizum.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> How long has El Niño existed?
>>>>
>>>>Since the end of the last Ice Age. The Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas knew
>>>>all
>>>>about it long before the conquistadors arrived.
>>>>
>>>>BTW, what were the carbon levels in 1876-78?:
>>>>https://tinyurl.com/mtb32mtd
>>>
>>> So? What does El Nino, La Nina have to do with global warming?
>>
>>You'll have to ask the lamers, flamers, and forgers about that one...
>
> And since they haven't answered . . .

You know a lot about that.

[max headroom]

In news:dtl5aih7u5iu19nbo...@4ax.com, Governor Swill
<governo...@gmail.com> typed:

> On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 18:25:55 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com>
> wrote:

>> (California is made up of basins surrounded by hills and
>> mountains. Thanks to the cold water current of the Pacific, we get
>> frequent inversions over basins. Any smoke and air pollution gets
>> trapped in the air of basins, unable to rise through the inversion
>> and get blown away over the hills.)

> This is why geography really is relevant. It also explains why the kids who
> ignored geography in school grew up to become Republicans.

And the ones who ignored Civics grew up to be Democrats.

[Governor Swill]

On Sun, 02 Jul 2023 22:29:45 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:

>Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.

No, they don't. Volcanic activity is to blame for quite a bit of short term climate
change. Look up, "the year without a summer" sometime. There have been MANY major
eruptions in recorded history that were followed by global climate disruption.

[Siri Cruise]

Nationwide reducing gasoline means the USA becomes insulated from
interminable south asia violence.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna11110276

Bush: U.S. must cut dependence on Mideast oil
In his fifth State of the Union address, President Bush, pushing
to take charge of an election-year agenda, said America must break
its dependence on Mideast oil and defended his strategy for the
unpopular war in Iraq.

A politically weakened President Bush declared Tuesday night that
America must break its long dependence on Middle East oil and
rebuked critics of his stay-the-course strategy for the unpopular
war in Iraq.

“America is addicted to oil, which is often imported from unstable
parts of the world,” Bush said as he sought to drive the
election-year agenda in his annual State of the Union address.

Rejecting calls for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq, Bush said,
“There is no peace in retreat.” He also slapped at those who
complain he took the country to war on the erroneous grounds that
Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction.

[Siri Cruise]

Sn!pe wrote:
> Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [Sn!pe]
>>> That's a lot of conflation going on there. By all means have those
>>> worthy aims but it obscures the debate to lump it all in together.
>>
>> She was explaining that California's green push has less to do with
>> Climate Change and more to do with local pollution. It's been that
>> way since the 1960s.
>
> Of course, but that is hijacking the thread and taking it into other
> topics. The subject is El Niño and its effect (or otherwise) on
> "Global Warming". I can't imagine that Siri really intended to
> perpetrate a "But What About".

California is also the principal victim of El Nino. Because we
have basins surrounded hills which often have clay layers, we get
lots of slides and floods.

[Sn!pe]

Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:

> Sn!pe wrote:
> > Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > [Sn!pe]
> >>> That's a lot of conflation going on there. By all means have those
> >>> worthy aims but it obscures the debate to lump it all in together.
> >>
> >> She was explaining that California's green push has less to do with
> >> Climate Change and more to do with local pollution. It's been that
> >> way since the 1960s.
> >
> > Of course, but that is hijacking the thread and taking it into other
> > topics. The subject is El Niño and its effect (or otherwise) on
> > "Global Warming". I can't imagine that Siri really intended to
> > perpetrate a "But What About".
>
> California is also the principal victim of El Nino. Because we
> have basins surrounded hills which often have clay layers, we get
> lots of slides and floods.
>

That's a very US and California-centric view.

NOAA says: "El Niño and La Niña are climate patterns
in the Pacific Ocean that can affect weather worldwide."

<https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html>

While the NOAA page concentrates on the US, the whole world
suffers extreme weather during El Niño -- severe droughts, huge
storms, excessive rainfall, etc.

<https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-64192508>

See the temperature and precipitation impact maps halfway down
that page.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 11:17:30 -0700, max headshroom drooled:

Oh, *hell* no. You do *not* get to criticize anyone else's understanding of
civics while continuing to support the party that perpetrated the J6 coup
attempt!

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 12:15:09 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
<nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:

>Oh, *hell* no. You do *not* get to criticize anyone else's understanding of
>civics while continuing to support the party that perpetrated the J6 coup
>attempt!

You don't get to make any rules.

[Creon]

That wasn't a "rule" -- that was a decency.

--
-c

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 12:20:04 +0000, Creon wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 05:16:39 -0700, KKKlaus SSchadenfreude wrote:
>
>> [Default] On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 12:15:09 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda
>> <nad31...@gmail.invalid> typed:
>>
>>> Oh, *hell* no. You do *not* get to criticize anyone else's understanding
>>> of civics while continuing to support the party that perpetrated the J6
>>> coup attempt!
>>
>> You don't get to make any rules.
>
> That wasn't a "rule" -- that was a decency.

And trying to explain that to KKKlaus is like trying to teach a pig to
sing. :/

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

[Default] On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 12:20:04 GMT, Creon <cr...@creon.earth>
typed:

What would have been decent is if Nads has slit her wrists before
replying.

[max headroom]

In news:1qdcbhq.veal1c1pjokpcN%snip...@gmail.com, Sn!pe <snip...@gmail.com>
typed:

> Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Sn!pe wrote:
>>> Governor Swill <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> [Sn!pe]
>>>>> That's a lot of conflation going on there. By all means have those
>>>>> worthy aims but it obscures the debate to lump it all in together.

>>>> She was explaining that California's green push has less to do with
>>>> Climate Change and more to do with local pollution. It's been that
>>>> way since the 1960s.

>>> Of course, but that is hijacking the thread and taking it into other
>>> topics. The subject is El Niño and its effect (or otherwise) on
>>> "Global Warming". I can't imagine that Siri really intended to
>>> perpetrate a "But What About".

>> California is also the principal victim of El Nino. Because we
>> have basins surrounded hills which often have clay layers, we get
>> lots of slides and floods.

> That's a very US and California-centric view.

"Siri" may be the most provincial poster you'll encounter on UseNet. Her world
is the Bay Area.

[Siri Cruise]

Sn!pe wrote:
> That's a very US and California-centric view.
>
> NOAA says: "El Niño and La Niña are climate patterns
> in the Pacific Ocean that can affect weather worldwide."

It also fills up fishing nets in South America along the Pacific
coast.

[NoBody]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 00:12:08 -0400, Governor Swill

<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 3 Jul 2023 00:43:28 +0100, snip...@gmail.com (Sn!pe) wrote:
>
>>Siri Cruise <chine...@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie Glock wrote:
>>> > Climate change has been here since before man even walked the earth.
>>>
>>> Long before farming?
>>>
>>> > Ask a Climate nut about the "Little Ice Age" and they start stammering.
>>>
>>> Yeah, people starved, but so what.
>>
>>The absurd thing is: given that much of climate change is a result of
>>the natural cycle of ice ages and interglacials, some people think that
>>by reducing anthropogenic CO2 production we can actually do anything
>>about reversing that change. We may as well be farting in a hurricane
>>for all the good it might do. Come back King Canute; all is forgiven!
>>
>>IMO "Net Zero CO2" is futile; not much more than a cynical money-making
>>scheme for the benefit of our masters, and aren't they just coining it.
>
>Where did you get your degree in climate science?
>
>Swill

Where did yours come from?

[NoBody]

On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 00:09:10 -0400, Governor Swill
<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 17:26:17 -0500, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:
>
>>"El Zero" wrote in message
>>news:2403c24f3206ab48...@dizum.com...
>>>
>>> How long has El Niño existed?
>>
>>Since the end of the last Ice Age. The Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas knew all
>>about it long before the conquistadors arrived.
>>
>>BTW, what were the carbon levels in 1876-78?: https://tinyurl.com/mtb32mtd
>
>So? What does El Nino, La Nina have to do with global warming?
>

This is just more of the scam pushed on the public. The new mantra is
that "man-made global warming" is combining with El Nino to make
global warming much worse.

>Swill