It's called "Winter."
Roger Coppock
It happens once a year.
Things get cold.
Sometimes, they get colder.
Most importantly,
A SINGLE WINTER STORM HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING!
Educated Republican
Frustration with retardation is the price-tag of any free forum. There
is no firewall separating the educated from the uneducated.
Steve
bryn....@ntlworld.com
It's called summer
It happens once a year.
Things get warm
Sometimes, they get hot
Most importantly,
A SINGLE HOT MONTH HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING!
But the coldest winter for 40 years in Europe last year, expanding
Antarctic winter sea ice for the last decade or so and ice bergs
sighted from New Zealands South island for the first time since the
1930s do.They indicate that its coming to an end.
If you want references try Googling them that's what I did.
Corporate Shill Catcher
Remedial Physics for RepigglyKKKlans: Why Global Warming can make
intense winter cold.
A number of posts have dealt with harsh winter conditions in the
Northern Hemisphere recently. Apparently some people never learned
basic physics in the absolutely free education system we offer up to
the 12th grade.
Very arctic conditions were warned earlier this year. The preconditions
were set up and observed and measured. The results of the predictions
are now coming true.
For instance these links were posted:
http://ecosyn.us/Temp_5/IOKE_into_Arctic.html
http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Arctic_Ice_Melt.html
http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Mystery_Solved/Ice_Mystery_Solved.html
http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca/Bebinca_01.html
http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca/ioke_bebinca_compare.html
http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca_to_Alaska/Bebinca_to_Alaska2.html
http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca_into_Alaska//Bebinca_into_Alaska2.html
A check on http://groups.google.com shows the following record:
Results 1 - 24 of 24 for
"http://ecosyn.us/Temp_5/IOKE_into_Arctic.html"
Results 1 - 63 of 63 for
"http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Arctic_Ice_Melt.html"
Results 1 - 57 of 57 for
"http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Mystery_Solved/Ice_Mystery_Solved.html"
Results 1 - 69 of 69 for
"http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca/Bebinca_01.html"
Results 1 - 62 of 62 for
"http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca/ioke_bebinca_compare.html"
Results 1 - 46 of 46 for
"http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca_to_Alaska/Bebinca_to_Alaska2.html"
Results 1 - 44 of 44 for
"http://ecosyn.us/Temp_4/Bebinca_into_Alaska//Bebinca_into_Alaska2.html"
So, as you can prove by an impartial record-keeper, you all were given
dozens upon dozens of warning and prediction repetitions.
Now, when it gets real cold, there has to be a reason. RepigglyKKKlans
believe that Je-Zeus YHVH, in his capricious and bloodthirsty manner
wreaks arbitrary hell on people, freezing some poor stiffs in Calgary
because they are too poor to buy heat. Science and reason has a much
better explanation which allows predictions months in advance, as you
can see by the posting record.
(1) First Global Warming increased storms intensities. Hurricane IOKE
was as strong as Katrina for 16 days straight.
(2) Then the tropical heat was transported quickly to the Arctic before
it could cooldown.
(3) Tropical rain fell on the Arctic Ice and melted a lake 38,000
square miles ten feet deep. 27,000,000 tons of TNT energy equivalent
was deposited in just that one lake.
(4) Melting ice absorbs heat and makes it disappear from thermometers.
The arctic didn't seem warmer, but that heat energy was stored in
there, waiting for winter to come.
(5) With the long dark nights the Arctic finally cooled enough to
refreeze that ice. Freezing ice releases energy, but the temperature of
that energy is at freezing -- it's not heat, but "expansion energy".
(6) The constant release of this expansion energy pushes cold air
masses off the top of the globe in the directions of least resistance.
(7) The Bearfort Sea, where the tropical heat energy was stored,
receives winds from the Japan current, so the expansion energy cannot
flow out that direction -- on the global temperature maps that
direction is the warmest direction of anywhere around the Bearfort Sea.
(8) The directions of least resistance for Arctic freezing air with
expansion backpressure from the Bearfort Sea has been Eastern Alaska,
Northern Central Canada and far north-eastern Siberia. These are the
coldest places in the Northern hemisphere right now, today. They are
also (look at a globe, not a flat map) the closest places to the
Bearfort Sea where the kinetic energy was stored this summer.
Unless you believe the Kansas Creationist mythology of Je-Zeus YHVH
having the whole world in his hands, and who also happens to be insane
and a real prick, then you need to turn to science to understand a bit
about weather, climate, and heat-kinetic energy.
The only time there is no heat energy is when something is absolute
zero Kelvin. All climate and all weather is a response to heat in the
system. Even the Arctic Express is heat energy in motion. The Earth is
so hot that some elements that are solid on other world have boiled
into gases on Earth -- like Nitrogen, Oxygen, Carbon-Dioxide. It takes
heat to make anything go from solid to liquid to gas, so the very fact
that there is air is proof of heat in the system. Even blizzards with
-100 degrees windchill factors are heat effects putting fluids like the
air into motion.
It was posted months ago that the heat in the Arctic from tropical
storms photographed every step of the way from the equator to the North
Pole would cause expansion pressure later when the melted ice refroze.
These current conditions, even freezing temperatures down to Mexico
City are caused by Global Warming excess energy in the system.
Bawana
littlestevietard wrote:
> Roger Coppock wrote:
>
> > It's called "Winter."
> > It happens once a year.
> > Things get cold.
> > Sometimes, they get colder.
> >
> > Most importantly,
> > A SINGLE WINTER STORM HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING!
>
> Frustration with retardation is the price-tag of any free forum.
I'm not frustrated with you, littlestevietard.
You gw retards provide entertainment.
Stop acting like a little girly bitch, tardboy.
Highway66
"Corporate Shill Catcher" <fo...@h2-pv.us> wrote in message
news:1164709262.4...@l39g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Roger Coppock wrote:
>> It's called "Winter."
>> It happens once a year.
>> Things get cold.
>> Sometimes, they get colder.
>>
>> Most importantly,
>> A SINGLE WINTER STORM HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING!
>
> Remedial Physics for RepigglyKKKlans: Why Global Warming can make
> intense winter cold.
If we have a cold winter - it's due to global warming.
If we have a mild winter - it's due to global warming.
If we have a moderate winter - it's due to global warming.
If we have a cool summer - it's due to global warming.
If we have a very hot summer - it's due to global warming.
If we have a moderate summer - it's due to global warming.
If a bear shits in the woods - it's due to global warming.
I think I'm getting it!
GatherNoMoss
> > Remedial Physics for RepigglyKKKlans: Why Global Warming can make
> > intense winter cold.
>
> If we have a cold winter - it's due to global warming.
> If we have a mild winter - it's due to global warming.
> If we have a moderate winter - it's due to global warming.
> If we have a cool summer - it's due to global warming.
> If we have a very hot summer - it's due to global warming.
> If we have a moderate summer - it's due to global warming.
> If a bear shits in the woods - it's due to global warming.
>
> I think I'm getting it!
Yeah....just when is "Global Warming" going to heat things up ? I"m
freaking freezing my arse off !
This global warming stuff bores me to tears. SO WHAT ????
And maybe it's just me, but I can't take anyone seriously who uses
terms like "RepigglyKKKlans".
Geez, shouldn't you be in grade school or something ? Your mommy know
you're on usenet ?
beav
>(3) Tropical rain fell on the Arctic Ice and melted a lake 38,000
>square miles ten feet deep. 27,000,000 tons of TNT energy equivalent
>was deposited in just that one lake.
useless units. again.
>(4) Melting ice absorbs heat and makes it disappear from thermometers.
>The arctic didn't seem warmer, but that heat energy was stored in
>there, waiting for winter to come.
back to your thermodynamics text... this is nonsense
>(5) With the long dark nights the Arctic finally cooled enough to
>refreeze that ice. Freezing ice releases energy, but the temperature of
>that energy is at freezing -- it's not heat, but "expansion energy".
expansion energy? find that anywhere in your thermodynamics book
>(6) The constant release of this expansion energy pushes cold air
>masses off the top of the globe in the directions of least resistance.
more hoo ha...
>(7) The Bearfort Sea, where the tropical heat energy was stored,
>receives winds from the Japan current, so the expansion energy cannot
>flow out that direction -- on the global temperature maps that
>direction is the warmest direction of anywhere around the Bearfort Sea.
do you mean Beaufort?
more expansion energy? ooooo
>(8) The directions of least resistance for Arctic freezing air with
>expansion backpressure from the Bearfort Sea has been Eastern Alaska,
>Northern Central Canada and far north-eastern Siberia. These are the
>coldest places in the Northern hemisphere right now, today. They are
>also (look at a globe, not a flat map) the closest places to the
>Bearfort Sea where the kinetic energy was stored this summer.
<chuckle> stored kinetic energy? in the summer? how? great big
flywheels? superconducting circuits?
>
>Unless you believe the Kansas Creationist mythology of Je-Zeus YHVH
>having the whole world in his hands, and who also happens to be insane
>and a real prick, then you need to turn to science to understand a bit
>about weather, climate, and heat-kinetic energy.
pot - kettle. you know just enough to be dangerous.
>
>The only time there is no heat energy is when something is absolute
>zero Kelvin. All climate and all weather is a response to heat in the
>system. Even the Arctic Express is heat energy in motion. The Earth is
>so hot that some elements that are solid on other world have boiled
>into gases on Earth -- like Nitrogen, Oxygen, Carbon-Dioxide. It takes
>heat to make anything go from solid to liquid to gas, so the very fact
>that there is air is proof of heat in the system. Even blizzards with
>-100 degrees windchill factors are heat effects putting fluids like the
>air into motion.
the atmosphere is already a gas. a certain amount of heat is in the
system that we live in. "energy" to melt the frozen gases has nothing
to do with ourt weather and can be neglected.
blizzards are local conditions in the world's weather system.
>
>It was posted months ago that the heat in the Arctic from tropical
>storms photographed every step of the way from the equator to the North
>Pole would cause expansion pressure later when the melted ice refroze.
expansion pressure? could you possibly mean "convection?"
no lasers necessary?
>
>These current conditions, even freezing temperatures down to Mexico
>City are caused by Global Warming excess energy in the system.
excess energy?
this last sentence is plain nonsense.
Roger Coppock
[ . . . ]
> >(3) Tropical rain fell on the Arctic Ice and melted a lake 38,000
> >square miles ten feet deep. 27,000,000 tons of TNT energy equivalent
> >was deposited in just that one lake.
> useless units. again.
Perfectly good units for large amounts of energy:
The energy of 1 Megaton of TNT = 1.16111E12 Watt Hours. Please see:
http://www.efunda.com/units/convert_units.cfm?mode=long&From=340&InputValue=1
> >(4) Melting ice absorbs heat and makes it disappear from thermometers.
> >The arctic didn't seem warmer, but that heat energy was stored in
> >there, waiting for winter to come.
> back to your thermodynamics text... this is nonsense
It's called the heat of fusion of water; it's about 80cal/g.
[more of beav's confusion snipped]
Roger Coppock
[ . . . ]
> >square miles ten feet deep. 27,000,000 tons of TNT energy equivalent
> >was deposited in just that one lake.
> useless units. again.
Perfectly good units for large amounts of energy:
The energy of 1 Megaton of TNT = 1.16111E12 Watt Hours. Please see:
http://www.efunda.com/units/convert_units.cfm?mode=long&From=340&InputValue=1
> >(4) Melting ice absorbs heat and makes it disappear from thermometers.
> >The arctic didn't seem warmer, but that heat energy was stored in
> >there, waiting for winter to come.
> back to your thermodynamics text... this is nonsense
It's called the heat of fusion of water; it's about 80cal/g.
James
"kT" <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:IeYah.2$1W...@newsfe02.lga...
> Highway66 wrote:
>
> You are an American.
Apparently you are too. http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
sarom...@gmail.com
> >(3) Tropical rain fell on the Arctic Ice and melted a lake 38,000
> >square miles ten feet deep. 27,000,000 tons of TNT energy equivalent
> >was deposited in just that one lake.
>
>
> useless units. again.
>
>
> >(4) Melting ice absorbs heat and makes it disappear from thermometers.
> >The arctic didn't seem warmer, but that heat energy was stored in
> >there, waiting for winter to come.
>
>
> back to your thermodynamics text... this is nonsense
>
>
> >(5) With the long dark nights the Arctic finally cooled enough to
> >refreeze that ice. Freezing ice releases energy, but the temperature of
> >that energy is at freezing -- it's not heat, but "expansion energy".
>
>
> expansion energy? find that anywhere in your thermodynamics book
>
We should probably take your criticism with a grain of salt since you
are apparently unaware of literature references to expansion energy,
suggesting you are unaware of other things as well. Here are just a
couple of references. You can look for others yourself:
United States Patent 6237340 issued on May 29, 2001 entitled "Method
for reusing a substance's thermal expansion energy".
United States Patent 6321564 issued on November 27, 2001 entitled
"Refrigerant cycle system with expansion energy recovery".
There are 246 US patents using the specific term "expansion energy".
At his web site (http://www.benwiens.com), energy consultant Ben Wiens
describes an energy chart topped by einstein energy comprised of
external or internal energy forms. Under external energy are kinetic
and potential energy plus subforms of external energy including
gravitational, magnetic, electrical, mechanical and expansion energy.
What else do you think you know that you don't?
Jim E
"Corporate Shill Catcher" <fo...@h2-pv.us> wrote in message
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>
>> It's called "Winter."
>> It happens once a year.
>> Things get cold.
>> Sometimes, they get colder.
>>
>> Most importantly,
>> A SINGLE WINTER STORM HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING!
>
> Remedial Physics for RepigglyKKKlans: Why Global Warming can make
> intense winter cold.
>
> A number of posts have dealt with harsh winter conditions in the
> Northern Hemisphere recently. Apparently some people never learned
> basic physics in the absolutely free education system we offer up to
> the 12th grade.
>
> Very arctic conditions were warned earlier this year. The preconditions
> were set up and observed and measured. The results of the predictions
> are now coming true.
The basic rule for global warming nut jobs is that no matter what happens it
supports the religion of global warming.
Hot weather, cold weather, big storms, no storms, earthquakes, car trouble,
infidelity, and even burnt toast.
Jim E
Corporate Shill Catcher
GatherNoMoss wrote:
> > > Remedial Physics for RepigglyKKKlans: Why Global Warming can make
> > > intense winter cold.
> >
> > If we have a cold winter - it's due to global warming.
> > If we have a mild winter - it's due to global warming.
> > If we have a moderate winter - it's due to global warming.
> > If we have a cool summer - it's due to global warming.
> > If we have a very hot summer - it's due to global warming.
> > If we have a moderate summer - it's due to global warming.
> > If a bear shits in the woods - it's due to global warming.
> >
> > I think I'm getting it!
>
> Yeah....just when is "Global Warming" going to heat things up ? I"m
> freaking freezing my arse off !
You should have learned physics when you had the chance. Then you would
have advance warning what's coming. You take the term "Global Warming"
too literally. In physics there is no such thing as "heat", only energy
which can appear as heat, or it can appear as kinetic motion, and
sometimes it can put cold air masses in motion and move them from the
confines of the arctic all the way down to Mexico City.
The tropical ENERGY that moved into the Arctic was not particularly
"heat" as the rain was only about 59 degrees F, which is chilly
everywhere else except the arctic. In the arctic each liter of rain
melted 13 grams of ice for each degree C that it was above zero C. 59F
= 15C, so 15 times 13 grams of ice melted, or 195 grams. That's
one-fifth of a liter. All-in-all 27,000,000 tons of TNT energy was
hidden by melting ice, equal to one 3,000 gallon gasoline tanker
burning up every minute, every hour, 24/7, for 170 days.
That "heat" is what's pushing the cold out of the arctic by expansion
pressure as the melted ice refreezes and gives back that 79 calories of
energy per gram of ice that melted. It's not what you call "heat"
because it's zero degrees C, freaking freezing, but it is expansion
energy pushing the arctic cold out of the arctic and down where you
are.
> This global warming stuff bores me to tears. SO WHAT ????
The don't read it. Do you see anybody with a gun to your head making
you read it? Go back to building your mile-high FREEDOM-WALL at the
Mexirican border and screw yourself.
> And maybe it's just me, but I can't take anyone seriously who uses
> terms like "RepigglyKKKlans".
> Geez, shouldn't you be in grade school or something ? Your mommy know
> you're on usenet ?
The weirdo using the name GatherNoMoss, whose mouth is often used as a
urinal by his corporate bosses, is offended because his KKK Klanhood is
showing?
P.H.Hart
<bryn....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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> Roger C
>
> It's called summer
> It happens once a year.
> Things get warm
> Sometimes, they get hot
> Most importantly,
> A SINGLE HOT MONTH HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH GLOBAL WARMING!
> But the coldest winter for 40 years in Europe last year, expanding
> Antarctic winter sea ice for the last decade or so and ice bergs
> sighted from New Zealands South island for the first time since the
> 1930s do.They indicate that its coming to an end.
So is it New Zealand, Europe or Antartica coming to an end?
> If you want references try Googling them that's what I did.
I think everyone on the ng realises that you are incapable of doing
original research.
bryn....@ntlworld.com
beav
how many clowns also wander into the patent office with perpetual
motion machines?
don't go to the patent office. go to a thermodynamics book and show
me this expansion energy, without invoking Einstein. if its heat of
fusion, use heat of fusion.
beav
<NoSpam.S...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:04:56 -0600, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
>
>>Highway66 wrote:
>>
>>You are an American.
>>
>>http://cosmic.lifeform.org
>
>Oh look, another graduate of the Freddy Rice school of Trolling.
>
>Change content or the header to make it look like someone said
>something they didn't. What a class act loser.
>If ones premises and principals are correct then why would they have
>to do such manipulation in order to try and prove their point?
>
>Because they have the mentality of a third grader apparently.
>
>I used to have a degree of respect for your posts because of the
>manner in which you presented the facts whether I agreed with them or
>not.
>But now it seems the low road is your chosen path. Too bad.
>
>
>PLONK
>
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>
>Starkiller©
>
>
>Eta Kooram Nah Smech!
watch out. he might point his atmospheric CO2 H2O laser at you.
sarom...@gmail.com
Probably a few, but I doubt that trained reviewers will award them a
patent. On the other hand, many major industrial R&D firms have used
the expression "expansion energy" in their patents. For example,
US 6945066 to Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd.: "The expansion
energy in the expander 6 is utilized for the super-pressurizing
operation of the auxiliary compressor 10 and power is recovered."
US 6920922 to DENSO Corp: "...wherein the decompression unit includes
an ejector for decompressing refrigerant discharged from the compressor
while sucking gas refrigerant from the interior heat exchanger, and for
converting expansion energy to pressure energy to increase pressure of
refrigerant to be sucked to the compressor..."
US 7135059 to Inogen, Inc.: "The pressure equalization step leads to
increased product recovery and lower power consumption because it
captures the expansion energy in the product gas and uses it to
pressurize other adsorbent beds..."
and so on.
The original poster was using an acceptable, widely-used term in his
message. In that context, the presence or not of the term in a
thermodynamics text is irrelevant. It has meaning within the
scientific community.
frenchy
> supports the religion of global warming.
> Hot weather, cold weather, big storms, no storms, earthquakes, car trouble,
> infidelity, and even burnt toast.> Jim E>>
They also love to throw around big numbers and formulas with 'wow'
factors for people who are easily duped fools.
I.e.:
>>That's one-fifth of a liter. All-in-all 27,000,000 tons of TNT energy was
hidden by melting ice, equal to one 3,000 gallon gasoline tanker
burning up every minute, every hour, 24/7, for 170 days. >>
As if there was no assumed 'global warming' effect, this number would
normally have been ZERO? Ridiculous.
And 27,000,000 tons of tnt, wow. Translate it into the graphic of
3,000 gasoline tankers burning and the average dope wonders why the
earth has not exploded in flames yet like a gasoline-soaked tissue. A
single hurricane releases 8 BILLION tons of tnt. Even a small
thunderstorm releases 80,000,000. The energy reaching the earth's
atmosphere from the sun is 40,000,000 tons a SECOND. We are doomed!!!!!
Jim E
"frenchy" <mf10...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Unless we give them total control over our lives, yes.
That seems to be the message.
Semi educated liberal twits, the lot of them.
Jim E
beav
let's try to relate patent usage to the atmosphere.
and let's NOT use the term "adiabatic" anywhere in the discussion.
the point was, he's using terms you may find acceptable to support
kooky atmospheric science. did you see his CO2 H2O lasers formed in
teh eye wall of hurricanes?
sarom...@gmail.com
That wasn't your point at all, was it? I'm not debating the relevance
of expansion energy to global warming. Perhaps some climatologist has
used the term, either correctly or incorrectly, to explain certain
atmospheric phenomena. Your point was there is no such thing as
"expansion energy". That is a completely different issue than its
significance to global warming.
Regardless, the opponents of global warming theory are always using
localized anecdotal references to argue against warming on a global
scale. Whether the temperature rises or falls locally or if weather
patterns are erratic regionally has no bearing on the total problem.
Climate effects are complicated and not easily explained.
Nevertheless, two things stand out. One, there is an established,
readily observed and virtually ideal correlation between global
temperature change and atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration change
spanning several hundred thousand years. Two, the average increase in
carbon dioxide concentration following an ice age is about 50% and
occurs over thousands of years. It has taken 14,000 years since the
last ice age. However, the concentration of carbon dioxide in the
atmosphere has increased an unprecedented additional 40% in just the
last 200 years to the highest levels recorded in almost 1 million
years. Maybe it's a coincidence, but those 200 years correspond to the
beginning of the Industrial Revolution and the continuing explosive
growth of carbon dioxide-emitting fossil fuels. When taken together,
these two facts are compelling evidence of human involvement in ongoing
climate change.
beav
>> the point was, he's using terms you may find acceptable to support
>> kooky atmospheric science. did you see his CO2 H2O lasers formed in
>> teh eye wall of hurricanes?
>>
>
>That wasn't your point at all, was it? I'm not debating the relevance
>of expansion energy to global warming. Perhaps some climatologist has
>used the term, either correctly or incorrectly, to explain certain
>atmospheric phenomena. Your point was there is no such thing as
>"expansion energy". That is a completely different issue than its
>significance to global warming.
ummm. yes it was. if (s)he wants to talk about global convection,
then use convection.
(s)he has no problem mixing terms, usages, scales, observations, for
whatever suits (s)him.
and you get the thrill of enabling (s)his behavior. rather than break
my chops, break (s)his.
>
>Regardless, the opponents of global warming theory are always using
>localized anecdotal references to argue against warming on a global
>scale. Whether the temperature rises or falls locally or if weather
>patterns are erratic regionally has no bearing on the total problem.
>Climate effects are complicated and not easily explained.
>Nevertheless, two things stand out. One, there is an established,
>readily observed and virtually ideal correlation between global
>temperature change and atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration change
>spanning several hundred thousand years. Two, the average increase in
>carbon dioxide concentration following an ice age is about 50% and
>occurs over thousands of years. It has taken 14,000 years since the
>last ice age. However, the concentration of carbon dioxide in the
>atmosphere has increased an unprecedented additional 40% in just the
>last 200 years to the highest levels recorded in almost 1 million
>years. Maybe it's a coincidence, but those 200 years correspond to the
>beginning of the Industrial Revolution and the continuing explosive
>growth of carbon dioxide-emitting fossil fuels. When taken together,
>these two facts are compelling evidence of human involvement in ongoing
>climate change.
i don't doubt the impact of increasing CO2. what I doubt is the class
of people, apparently on the edge of sanity, that have taken this as a
personal crusade. they (you know who you are) use browbeating,
specious arguments and courtroom science to promote their "faith."
if this particular sock puppet master ((s)he's got dozens of names in
this group alone) wants to use proper scientific terms, give up the
use of made up science and refocus their anger, the number of posts
here would probably plunge, and the quality of discussion would
improve.
rather than devolve to this current tidal wave of hand waving and
invective.
Science Fraud Buster
I personally own archives collected from the European Satellite MS1,
distributed by the United States Government National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Agency to the general public literate enough to find the
computer internet locations of the data, which have four repetitions of
the events: Bebinca, Chebi, Cimaron, and Debian since October 4th. You
have your superstitious Je-Zeus YHVH alternate theory of the universe.
I personally own my copies of reality. You hear voices in your head. I
personally posted on a publically accessible website 49,000,000 bytes
of science data files at my personal expense. You hear voices in your
head.
I personally made predictions months in advance of events that the
thermal-kinetic energy stored in the Bearing Sea will ring the North
American Continent like a bell through at least February 2007 pushing
frigid air off the top of the world with expansion energy. You hear
voices in your head.
> >> don't go to the patent office. go to a thermodynamics book and show
beav
what is WITH you?