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Heat wave cooks local farmers' crops


The produce up for sale Saturday at the Atlantic City Farmers Market looked good enough to tempt even the
most die-hard carnivore.

But as customers sweltered in the 90-degree heat, the growers said the steamy weather has taken a toll on
their crops.

“Too much rain and too much heat, it puts it under a lot of stress,” said David Monteleone of Monteleone
Farms in Vineland. What's sitting on the table looks delicious, but “what we have to throw away is another
story.”

“Things burn out and die,” said his wife, Elaine. “We have to water all the time.”

Heavy rain washed away a lot of seed this spring, and a good part of the watermelon crop rotted in the field,
she said.

But European farmers have it worse. The British Broadcasting Corp. reported Friday that extreme
temperatures are causing the crops to ripen ahead of schedule, making farmers scramble to harvest
everything before it goes bad.

So far, this summer has not been especially hot in southern New Jersey, said Jim Eberwine, a meteorolgist
with the National Weather Service in Mount Holly. Only one heat record was broken in Atlantic City, and that
was the 99-degree day on July 19.

Southern New Jersey did set a lot of new rainfall records this year, Eberwine said. Atlantic City has seen
10.25 inches of rain since June 1, more than 4 inches above normal.

“It's lush out there. It's an ideal (growing) climate, I imagine,” Eberwine said.

As he drives to work up Route 206, all he sees is lush and green fields, and the roadside farm stands are all
packed, “so they must be doing something right,” Eberwine said. Some summers have been so dry, the
farmers are in the field surrounded by a cloud of dust.

But unlike spring and fall rains that tend to spread out over a wider area, summer rains can be hit or miss
depending on where the storms form, Eberwine said. So some pockets in southern New Jersey got dumped
on, while others stayed relatively dry.

That was the problem at Hackett's Farm in Egg Harbor Township, said owner Leslee Hackett.

“The rain went right around us,” and the hot sun is cooking the crops, Hackett said.

Hackett said she had to throw away more crops than usual or just leave them in the field. Some vegetables
are literally exploding in the heat.

“The corn can look green on the outside when you're watering it, and you pull (the husk) down and it's all
dry on the inside,” Hackett said.

The intense heat also means that crops are ripening sooner than usual, Hackett said. The harvesting season
begins and ends earlier when temperatures stay in the 90s.

The bright side is that hot, dry weather makes fruits sweeter, Hackett said. Look for peaches, grapes and
melons to be especially tasty this season.

As for the nonfarmers looking for a break in the weather, Eberwine said it will get worse before it finally cools
off a bit toward the end of the week. Expect to run air conditioners full-blast Tuesday, Wednesday and
Thursday, before a cold front moves through on Friday to provide some relief from the heat.

Beacon of Truth and Light (maybe)

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> http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/local/atlantic/story/6574638p-6421797c.html
>
> Heat wave cooks local farmers' crops
>
>
> The produce up for sale Saturday at the Atlantic City Farmers Market
> looked good enough to tempt even the
> most die-hard carnivore.
>
> But as customers sweltered in the 90-degree heat, the growers said the
> steamy weather has taken a toll on
> their crops.
>
> "Too much rain and too much heat, it puts it under a lot of stress," said
> David Monteleone of Monteleone
> Farms in Vineland. What's sitting on the table looks delicious, but "what
> we have to throw away is another
> story."
>
> "Things burn out and die," said his wife, Elaine. "We have to water all
> the time."

If there's "too much rain", then why do they have to "water all the time"..
?


Righturds Doing More than Al Qaeda in Gutting America

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"Beacon of Truth and Light \(maybe\)" <f...@foo.com> wrote in
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Nobody expect a shit-for-brains righturd to remember that they flooded two
weeks ago and the helicopters were plucking people off roofs, or a whole
city of 200,000 evacuated. Righturds are not very good at connecting dots,
only good for sweeping bad news under the rug so their negligence and
dereliction of duty can try to pass by the eagle eyes of Americans
watching this enemy within.

It rained. Then it burned. Too much weather from too much carbon polltion.

What Oralator Has Never Understood About Greenhouse Gases...

There may be lurking onlookers with the same misunderstandings as
Oralator, but whom are capable of being taught the errors of his
statements. He has demonstrated that he is incapable of learning past his
present misunderstandings. For the onlookers this is provided.

Human eyes are limited. They cannot see infrared or ultraviolet light
directly, but through prosthetic instruments these invisible radiations
can be seen and studied. Satellites report back infrared changes in the
atmosphere which represent weather effects and storms of interest to the
people below.

You can view infrared energy concentrations through these satellites:
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/mtsat/wpac/rb-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/mtsat/wcpac/rb-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/cpac/rb-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/epac/rb-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/rb-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/rb-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/met8/eatl/rb-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/nepac/rb-l.jpg
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/weus/rb-l.jpg

Gases in the air can absorb energy by two means. It is either absorbed
into the physical stuctures from radiative transfer, or it is absorbed by
collisions from other molecules. Once it has been absorbed it will remain
until some set of conditions occurs which causes the release of a portion
of the gas molecule's energy. The energy can leave the gas molecule by
either of the same two means: emission of radiation or collision with
another molecule. On planet Venus the conditions are such that CO2
molecules are hot enough to melt lead into puddles, so it would be a
mistake to believe that CO2 has to give up its energy at lower Earth
temperatures just because you would like it to.

CO2, like other compound molecules, can have three physical states: solid,
liquid and gas. The solid state has an absolute maximum temperature before
it becomes liquid and the liquid has an absolute maximum temperature
before it becomes gas, but CO2 gas has no absolute temperature on Earth.
CO2 can get hotter and hotter and hotter past the melting temperatures of
volcanic lava.

CO2 never ever ever gives up it heat energy unless certain conditions
occur. The primary way that CO2 gives up heat energy in the atmosphere is
through collisions. The act of colliding removes some heat energy but
never all of the heat energy of the CO2 gas. The giving up is not
elimination, it is transferral to another element or compound gas
molecule. The overall heat energy is still the same after collision as it
was before.

Gases which are transparent to infrared radiation are warmed by collisions
with CO2, thus IR indirectly heats the whole atmosphere.

CO2 has no eyes -- it cannot tell if the IR came from one direction or
another. It doesn't care. IR from above heats the air through being
absorbed and then collisions. IR from below heats the air in the same way.
IR is not "blocked" as if CO2 was a mirror. IR is not released as if CO2
knew what the temperature limit ought to be. The more CO2 there is in the
air the more the air will be warmed by the same constant energy flow.

A small amount of CO2 has a profound effect. A small increase in CO2 in
the air has a greater effect. The effects are not primarily "heat", but
are primarily motion -- kinetic energy. The more kinetic energy retained
in the system, the greater are the forces weather exerted on the
biosphere.

Kinetic energy does not have to be heat. The arctic express can be made
even expressier by more kinetic energy, and wind chill is not heat but
certainly is motion.

Trying to find all the effects of CO2 increases with thermometers fails to
find the correct total energy additions in the system, because it ignores
motion, the greatest part of CO2 heating contributions.

Temperatures are an average value of the force of collisions in gas
molecules. CO2 may be 10 times or 100 times or 1000 times hotter than the
other gases, but thermometers do not read the temperatures of each
molecule, just the average temperature, so they blend the hotter CO2 and
cooler N2, O2 Ar gases with the hotter to give the average. While this may
appear to be a minor quibble, it becomes important in understanding
feedback mechanisms, which cannot be correctly understood without knowing
this.

As you know, water requires 212 degrees F, 100 degrees C, to change from
liquid to vapor (gas). Except near some active volcanos this temperature
never occurs on Earth. CO2, being very much hotter than air can collide
with water and transfer the energy for vaporization, one molecule at a
time. There are very few gases which can do this. CO2 is responsible for a
majority of evaporation on the planet. An increased CO2 world is one with
faster and greater evaporation rates. It is also one with speedier air
currents.

CO2 is opaque to IR radiation in the major bandwidths. It is a black
absorber, just like it's cousins graphite and coal are black absorbers to
visible light rays.

CO2 in dissolved in the water is just as black to IR as CO2 in the air.
Water observes the bouyancy principles described by Archimedes and
explained by Newton. Cooler water descends, being denser, warmer water
floats over the cooler. Between the two layers there is very little mixing
because the cooler is trying to go down and the warmer is trying to rise
-- gravity won't let them physically seperate, but the thermocline barrier
between the two won't let them mix.

The oceans cannot absorb infinite CO2 because of this seperation of the
warmer surface and the cooler underlayer. Once the top layer is releasing
a CO2 molecule as fast as it dissolves a CO2 molecule it is saturated and
no more CO2 disposal in the ocean happens. CO2 is still absorbing heat in
the top layers of the water and therefore hotter waters hold less CO2 as
the CO2 reaches a kinetic force high enough to fly out of the water again.

The ocean is a clogged sink which not only cannot soak up any more CO2
than it already has, but must give up more of it's CO2 to add to the air
as the seas heat up. This is feeding back into the air where it came from
and adding to the totals in the air.

Pollution previously lost at sea will be coming back to haunt you with
higher temperatures, faster air forces and many unpleasant consequences.

Water vapor also has some absorbtion of IR in specific wavelengths, but
not nearly as much as CO2. As the CO2 increases water evaporation this
feeds back more water in the air to assist in absorbing IR. Water vapor
collecting IR can also heat the air by collisions. So CO2 begins the
process of releasing H2O and then both are heating the air through
collisions. This is even more effective in absorbing IR rays in the
environment. The minefield that IR has to pass through to leave the
biosphere becomes ever denser with IR-absorbing mines and fewer IR rays
can escape one or the other.

The end of this constant increasing and feed back is Venus, with
temperatures which melt lead. That is the future that you are choosing by
emitting any more CO2 instead of switching to carbon-free energy. The
megadeaths will be be here far before your lifespan is over, in case you
were thinking that your irresponsible drunken party would have
consequences only after you are dead. YOUR life will be cut short and
there will be no more generations of man forever and ever.


Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE

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Jul 31, 2006, 9:27:15 PM7/31/06
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So change to crops that grow better under hotter conditions. But I
can't remember a year when
farmers didn't complain about something, the more loudly, the more
money they get from the
government. So F---- them and take whatever they say with a grain of
salt. If they are too stupid
to switch to crops that can handle the heat (do they grow NO crops in
hot areas???) then move them
off the land and let some big agribusiness combine handle it.

Righturds Doing More than Al Qaeda in Gutting America

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"Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote
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> then move them
> off the land and let some big agribusiness combine handle it.
>

First the big corporations kill the farming then they get the land --
always the right-turd answer to everything. Give it all to the
aristocrats, take it all from the Americans -- always the right-turd
philosophy.

Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE

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Jul 31, 2006, 11:49:19 PM7/31/06
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You stupid clod, it's agribusiness that has resulted in hyper-low food
prices compared
to just about anywhere else in the civilized world. But feel free to
pay 200% more for
"organic" bug-ridden puke grown by ex-hippies.

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birdog

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"Crusader Rabbit" <an...@comments.header> wrote in message
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> In article <1154395635....@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

> "Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE"
> Farmers have traditionally voted for Republicans.
>
> Not any more.
>
> But after five years of Bush, very few people will be voting
> Republican this fall.

DAMN Bush for causing this heat wave!


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Crusader Rabbit <an...@comments.header> wrote in news:TL46ZAJO3893...@twistycreek.com:

> In article <kgLzg.10563$48.1...@bignews7.bellsouth.net>

> The beauty of it is that only the Bush voters are stupid enough
> to beleive that.
>
> And they do!

Farmers buy a lot more gasoline, diesel, propane, electricity and natural gas than most city slickers. They
know when they are paying record prices and can't afford the energy to pump water to irrigate wilting crops.
They know whodunnit. Bush on bended knee has to go to China to borrow money to keep up the Vietraq
War and mother hubbard's cupboard is bare in washington and getting bare in the heartland.

You can't survive what 2006 is throwing at you.

You'll get your full lesson in this in 2006 as America burns from wildfires, loses crops to droughts, is smashed
by hail the size of baseballs, scrambled by the swarms of tornadoes and flattened by hurricanes. Your back
will be broken by Weather from Hell.

news.cogeco.ca

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"Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote
in message

> So change to crops that grow better under hotter conditions. But I
> can't remember a year when
> farmers didn't complain about something, the more loudly, the more
> money they get from the
> government. So F---- them and take whatever they say with a grain of
> salt. If they are too stupid
> to switch to crops that can handle the heat

Ya, let them grow coconuts.

news.cogeco.ca

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"Crusader Rabbit" <an...@comments.header> wrote in message
> But after five years of Bush, very few people will be voting
> Republican this fall.

OOh, don't be so sure. Recent polling shows that 40% of Americans now
believe that Saddam had WMD. Virtually <ALL> Republican.

Death will be their only release from ignorance.

c64...@hotmail.com

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Righturds Doing More than Al Qaeda in Gutting America wrote:
> >> DAMN Bush for causing this heat wave!
> >
> > The beauty of it is that only the Bush voters are stupid enough
> > to beleive that.
> >
> > And they do!
>
> Farmers buy a lot more gasoline, diesel, propane, electricity and natural gas than most city slickers.

Those are the things (fossil fuels) that cause global warming. You're
telling us that the farmers caused the heat wave. Thanks for clearing
that up.

Well Done

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Aug 11, 2006, 5:16:29 PM8/11/06
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"news.cogeco.ca" <BushIsA...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"Crusader Rabbit" <an...@comments.header> wrote:
>> But after five years of Bush, very few people will be voting
>> Republican this fall.
>
>OOh, don't be so sure. Recent polling shows that 40% of Americans now
>believe that Saddam had WMD. Virtually <ALL> Republican.
>
That's not surprising, considering that Saddam did in fact have WMD.

>Death will be their only release from ignorance.
>

Tchyeah, that's right. The dems have it right. Sure. %^/
--
): "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think" :(
(: Off the monitor, through the modem, nothing but net :)

Crazies Run the Asylum

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c64...@hotmail.com wrote in
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Lets say they USED to have a vested interest in an oilman president and
oilman vice president, but they got stabbed in the back by the oily
people. Yes farmers helped make their own heat deaths.

Crazies Run the Asylum

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Well Done <Well...@WellHoned.com> wrote in
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> "news.cogeco.ca" <BushIsA...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>"Crusader Rabbit" <an...@comments.header> wrote:
>>> But after five years of Bush, very few people will be voting
>>> Republican this fall.
>>
>>OOh, don't be so sure. Recent polling shows that 40% of Americans now
>>believe that Saddam had WMD. Virtually <ALL> Republican.
>>
> That's not surprising, considering that Saddam did in fact have WMD.

So you are saying that all nations with WMDs need to be overthrown and
theoir leaders tried for capital crimes? Here I thought you were a
right-turd gun-nut wacko mass murderer for oil and you turn out to be a
peacenik? How strange.

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