Speaker Calls Global Warming a ‘Hoax’
tunderbar
Speaker Calls Global Warming a ‘Hoax’
‘Truth About the Global Warming Hoax’ heats up RWC monthly lecture
series.
By Victoria Ross
Thursday, March 03, 2011
Is global warming an inconvenient truth, or a “flavor of the month”
fraud used as a massive and successful fund-raising tool?
According to Dr. Stefan Gorzula, a consulting ecologist and management
specialist, it’s the latter, despite the evidence supplied by most
mainstream scientists.
“That’s essentially what this entire scare of global warming and
climate change is about,” said Gorzula, who spoke to about 65 men and
women attending the Republic Women’s Club of Clifton lecture series on
Tuesday, Feb. 28.
According to Gorzula, his dose of “common sense,” is an antidote to
the “fear-mongering and media hysteria” over the hot-button global
warming issue. “It’s also probably why I didn’t get invited back to
speak at George Mason University’s Earth Day lecture,” he told the
crowd, drawing laughter.
“I thought he was fascinating and engaging,” said Alice Butler-Story,
vice president of members for the RWC. “It’s an issue where we need to
hear both sides.”
“We wanted to have him as part of our lecture series, because our
series is about getting information straight from the source about
climate change instead of getting it (filtered) from the media, where
you don’t get the full story,” said RWC president Lin-Dai Kendall, who
presides over 105 members and the fastest-growing Republican women’s
groups in Northern Virginia.
Andrew Schaaf of Clifton, who attended the lecture with his wife and
two children, said he was particularly interested in hearing Gorzula’s
comments. “He goes against the conventional wisdom, and talks about
issues like politically-correct corruption,” said Schaaf.
According to his website [http://www.his.com/~mesas/
gorzulaaddress.htm] Gorzula has 36 years of experience in river basin
management, wildlife conservation, environmental and social impacts of
development projects and environmental legislation. He has spent 24
years living and working in developing countries in Latin America,
Africa, and Asia. He currently lives in Springfield.
He is a member of the Crocodile Specialist Group of the IUCN. On
behalf of the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species
(CITES), he has carried out surveys and developed management plans for
caimans, boas and anacondas in Guyana and pythons in Ghana
“Climate change and global warming are topics that should be treated
with extreme caution,” he said, adding that the “short-term
fluctuations" in global climate are not a new discovery. What is new,
he said, is that global warming has replaced “nuclear winter, acid
rain and saving the whales as the must-have buzz phrase” for many
scientific grand applications.
“Redistribution of wealth as a politically-correct solution to climate
change is cute, but it won’t work,” he said.
Dawlish
> http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=348726&paper=...
"The Republic Women’s Club of Clifton"?? Are these the experts you
feel governments should now listen to??
Hilarious. Truly hilarious. You didn't look at the source tundy, did
you? It'll be Donald Duck and his ducklings next.
tunderbar
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Learn to read dipshit:
RedAcer
> http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=348726&paper=81&cat=104
>
> Speaker Calls Global Warming a ‘Hoax’
> ‘Truth About the Global Warming Hoax’ heats up RWC monthly lecture
> series.
>
> By Victoria Ross
> Thursday, March 03, 2011
>
>
> Is global warming an inconvenient truth, or a “flavor of the month”
> fraud used as a massive and successful fund-raising tool?
>
> According to Dr. Stefan Gorzula, a consulting ecologist and management
> specialist, it’s the latter, despite the evidence supplied by most
> mainstream scientists.
despite the evidence. DESPITE THE EVIDENCE !!!
So. Despite the evidence on his website the he has discovered 22 new
species of reptiles and amphibians it is in fact a “flavor of the
month” fraud used as a massive and successful fund-raising tool?
Despite the evidence that I just posted this, it has in fact been
magicked into your computer by the cousin of the ghost of a dead shrew
which is sitting on your shoulder.
I think this logic will go far and should be used repeatedly by all
deniers. You will be able to convince everyone that what you are saying
is correct because you a massive fraud and a tund-raising fool.
>
> “That’s essentially what this entire scare of global warming and
> climate change is about,” said Gorzula, who spoke to about 65 men and
> women attending the Republic Women’s Club of Clifton lecture series on
> Tuesday, Feb. 28.
>
> According to Gorzula, his dose of “common sense,” is an antidote to
> the “fear-mongering and media hysteria” over the hot-button global
> warming issue. “It’s also probably why I didn’t get invited back to
> speak at George Mason University’s Earth Day lecture,” he told the
> crowd, drawing laughter.
>
> “I thought he was fascinating and engaging,” said Alice Butler-Story,
> vice president of members for the RWC. “It’s an issue where we need to
> hear both sides.”
I think you are onto something here.
Alice likes him. I like Alice. Ergo AGW is false. ( proof using
tunderbar's rule)
>
> “We wanted to have him as part of our lecture series, because our
> series is about getting information straight from the source about
> climate change instead of getting it (filtered) from the media, where
> you don’t get the full story,” said RWC president Lin-Dai Kendall, who
> presides over 105 members and the fastest-growing Republican women’s
> groups in Northern Virginia.
>
> Andrew Schaaf of Clifton, who attended the lecture with his wife and
> two children, said he was particularly interested in hearing Gorzula’s
> comments. “He goes against the conventional wisdom, and talks about
> issues like politically-correct corruption,” said Schaaf.
>
> According to his website [http://www.his.com/~mesas/
> gorzulaaddress.htm] Gorzula has 36 years of experience in river basin
> management, wildlife conservation, environmental and social impacts of
> development projects and environmental legislation. He has spent 24
> years living and working in developing countries in Latin America,
> Africa, and Asia. He currently lives in Springfield.
You may be right after all. He obviously knows a lot about climate science.
Dawlish
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So why hasn't he had his opinion (for that is all it is) published in
a decent journal, instead of having to peddle his talk at a totally
obscure women's club somewhere?
tundy. Some advice; go find some science to play in. Take your bucket
and spade with you.
tunderbar
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You just can't accept the fact that more and more people are publicly
calling the scam a scam.
Tough.
RedAcer
> On Mar 4, 11:31 am, Dawlish <pjg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 4, 4:49 pm, tunderbar <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> tundy. Some advice; go find some science to play in. Take your bucket
>> and spade with you.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> You just can't accept the fact that more and more people are publicly
> calling the scam a scam.
>
> Tough.
More and More - a self professed frog expert. Did you ask Alice what
her qualifications were?
Barbarian Mutual
Careful, if you say "journal", Tundy might think you mean the little
notebook we had to write in each day back in 4th grade or something.
Earl Evleth
236a6451-77a5-48a6...@z27g2000prz.googlegroups.com,
"tunderbar" <tdco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> According to Dr. Stefan Gorzula, a consulting ecologist and management
> specialist,
Who is paying him?
Earl Evleth
42c1a813-c296-4cde...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com,
"tunderbar" <tdco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dr. Stefan Gorzula, a consulting ecologist and management specialist
Who is paying him? He is not well enough known to have had a sourcewatch
investigation and wiki tells me nothing.
Earl Evleth
a2e0a42c-a495-4651...@l14g2000pre.googlegroups.com,
"tunderbar" <tdco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You just can't accept the fact that more and more people are publicly
> calling the scam a scam.
Scam, sounds like the guy you grabbed off the web.
Paul Aubrin
As a consultant, apparently his clients:
He is currently (2010–2008) working on a contract in West Virginia,
carrying out a socio-economic and environmental impacts survey of tourism
businesses along the Shavers Fork native-trout stream near Elkins, WV
that will be negatively affected by a proposed limestone quarry.
erschro...@gmail.com
> http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=348726&paper=...
>
> ‘Truth About the Global Warming Hoax’ heats up RWC monthly lecture
> series.
>
> By Victoria Ross
> Thursday, March 03, 2011
>
> Is global warming an inconvenient truth, or a “flavor of the month”
> fraud used as a massive and successful fund-raising tool?
>
> According to Dr. Stefan Gorzula, a consulting ecologist and management
> specialist, it’s the latter, despite the evidence supplied by most
> mainstream scientists.
>
> “That’s essentially what this entire scare of global warming and
> climate change is about,” said Gorzula, who spoke to about 65 men and
> women attending the Republic Women’s Club of Clifton lecture series on
> Tuesday, Feb. 28.
Wow, a right-wing political gathering.
>
> According to Gorzula, his dose of “common sense,” is an antidote to
> the “fear-mongering and media hysteria” over the hot-button global
> warming issue. “It’s also probably why I didn’t get invited back to
> speak at George Mason University’s Earth Day lecture,” he told the
> crowd, drawing laughter.
>
> “I thought he was fascinating and engaging,” said Alice Butler-Story,
> vice president of members for the RWC. “It’s an issue where we need to
> hear both sides.”
>
> “We wanted to have him as part of our lecture series, because our
> series is about getting information straight from the source about
> climate change instead of getting it (filtered) from the media, where
> you don’t get the full story,” said RWC president Lin-Dai Kendall, who
> presides over 105 members and the fastest-growing Republican women’s
> groups in Northern Virginia.
>
> Andrew Schaaf of Clifton, who attended the lecture with his wife and
> two children, said he was particularly interested in hearing Gorzula’s
> comments. “He goes against the conventional wisdom, and talks about
> issues like politically-correct corruption,” said Schaaf.
>
> According to his website [http://www.his.com/~mesas/
> gorzulaaddress.htm] Gorzula has 36 years of experience in river basin
> management, wildlife conservation, environmental and social impacts of
> development projects and environmental legislation. He has spent 24
> years living and working in developing countries in Latin America,
> Africa, and Asia. He currently lives in Springfield.
>
He's also (it's on his CV):
# Licensed Aquatic Pesticide Applicator Virginia (VDACS #111818-C),
2009.
# Licensed Aquatic Pesticide Applicator Maryland (29583 72347), 2009.
> He is a member of the Crocodile Specialist Group of the IUCN. On
> behalf of the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species
> (CITES), he has carried out surveys and developed management plans for
> caimans, boas and anacondas in Guyana and pythons in Ghana
>
Look at his CV -- not a single publication on climate science.
> “Climate change and global warming are topics that should be treated
> with extreme caution,” he said, adding that the “short-term
> fluctuations" in global climate are not a new discovery. What is new,
> he said, is that global warming has replaced “nuclear winter, acid
> rain and saving the whales as the must-have buzz phrase” for many
> scientific grand applications.
>
> “Redistribution of wealth as a politically-correct solution to climate
> change is cute, but it won’t work,” he said.
Lying about GW is also politically correct to a group of Republicans...
erschro...@gmail.com
So when can we expect even one national science academy around the
world to change side? Even one scientific organization?
When can we expect to see scientific journal articles saying GW isn't
real?
When, Tundy, when? A month? A year? 10 years? 100 years?
Bareback Insane O'bungler
>
> > Speaker Calls Global Warming a Hoax
> > Truth About the Global Warming Hoax heats up RWC monthly lecture
> > series.
>
> > By Victoria Ross
> > Thursday, March 03, 2011
>
> > Is global warming an inconvenient truth, or a flavor of the month
> > fraud used as a massive and successful fund-raising tool?
>
> > According to Dr. Stefan Gorzula, a consulting ecologist and management
> > specialist, it s the latter, despite the evidence supplied by most
> > mainstream scientists.
>
> despite the evidence. DESPITE THE EVIDENCE !!!
"supplied by most mainstream scientists."
LOL!!!! Useless when searching for the truth.
Mainstream scientists have less credibility
than used car dealers and chocolate messiahs.
There will always be you brain damaged morons
believing in both.
> [delusional drool flushed]
Bareback Insane O'bungler
They can't even scare little old ladies anymore.
Only limp-dicked dawgshit type queens are afraid.
Bareback Insane O'bungler
>
> "tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > According to Dr. Stefan Gorzula, a consulting ecologist and management
> > specialist,
>
> Who is paying him?
It obviously is not the government, shit-eater.
Then it's none of your business.
Bareback Insane O'bungler
LOL!!!
Poor retard.
You're gonna have to sign
on to another scam soon.
Bareback Insane O'bungler
When can we expect a scientific solution?
From any ONE of them?
Sounds like FRAUD.
> Even one scientific organization?
When can we expect a scientific solution?
From any ONE of them?
Sounds like FRAUD.
> When can we expect to see scientific journal articles saying GW isn't
> real?
When can we expect a scientific solution?
From any ONE of them?
Sounds like FRAUD.
Paul Aubrin
>> So when can we expect even one national science academy around the
>> world to change side?
As far as I can read, the French Academy position in the debate is much
more cautious than it has been commented by the press.
As an example, take this assertion :
« les incertitudes sur l’effet global indirect d’un changement de
concentration du CO2, avec toutes les rétroactions prises en compte, font
l’objet de débats au sein de la communauté des climatologues ».
Translation:
"The uncertainties on the indirect global effect of a change in the CO2
concentration, with all the feedback taken into account, is debated among
the climatologist community."
Here, the Academy acknowledges here that the current level of
uncertainties is such that the global effect of CO2 is still the object
of a legitimate debate among the community of climatologists. It can be
reworded, in a less academic language: the science on the actual effect
of CO2 is not settled yet.
The report of the French Academy (pdf):
http://knowtex.com/15453
Another example, on the uncertainties in the interpretation of the
results of climatic computer models:
« la capacité des modèles climatiques à reproduire les évolutions passées
du climat à l’échelle pluridécennale est limitée par le fait que des
données homogènes ne sont apparues que dans les années 1970.
La validité des projections pour les décennies à venir et leurs
incertitudes sont une question centrale. La comparaison des résultats de
ces projections fournit une indication sur les incertitudes dues aux
différences de modélisation de certains mécanismes. De plus, les
mécanismes non encore identifiés ne sont naturellement pas inclus dans
les modèles.
Les corrélations directes purement statistiques entre deux quantités sont
utiles pour mettre en évidence des couplages non modélisés ou mal
représentés, mais non pour tester précisément les mécanismes internes aux
modèles et leur pertinence quant à la simulation des variations du climat.
C’est une partie des débats actuels entre scientifiques ».
Those paragraphs are far from a direct endorsement of the AGW theory.
They actually state that even if the climatic computer models have been
tuned to reproduce the observations of the past, this cannot be a
guaranty that they are reliable. And that the confidence to be given on
the validity of deductions driven from computer models is a part of the
debate.
So, the current position of at least one scientific academy in the world
is that there is a real debate on crucial points of the AGW hypothesis.
Desertphile
<tdco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=348726&paper=81&cat=104
>
> Speaker Calls Global Warming a Hoax
In the same sense that evolution is a hoax, and gravity.
--
http://desertphile.org
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"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
Paul Aubrin
> On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 08:23:04 -0800 (PST), tunderbar <tdco...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?
article=348726&paper=81&cat=104
>>
>> Speaker Calls Global Warming a Hoax
>
> In the same sense that evolution is a hoax, and gravity.
This is what Greens would like people to believe.
The reality is that climate sceptics are very often qualified physicists
and climate AGWers mostly New Age dooms believers.
I personally noted that most of the green activists I know were fond of
astrology and had no scientific culture.
gordo
>On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 09:19:51 -0700, Desertphile wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 08:23:04 -0800 (PST), tunderbar <tdco...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?
>article=348726&paper=81&cat=104
>>>
>>> Speaker Calls Global Warming a Hoax
>>
>> In the same sense that evolution is a hoax, and gravity.
>
>This is what Greens would like people to believe.
>The reality is that climate sceptics are very often qualified physicists
>and climate AGWers mostly New Age dooms believers.
Greens?Who are these greens pray tell?The speaker is not a scientist
and got support from dirty coal for his campaign.
Sorry it is not greens.The people who supplied the research that the
IPCC reports were based upon are all scientists from all over the
world and the top in their fields.
>I personally noted that most of the green activists I know were fond of
>astrology and had no scientific culture.
You personally noted?Now that is impressive.Care to name one green
activist that you know?It is insane to think that the IPCC reports are
a hoax.You claim some scientific expertise yet believe that the
IPCC reports on global warming to be a hoax?