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CB

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Mar 8, 2007, 9:17:32 AM3/8/07
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For all the good he's done for the environment-which, to be fair, is an
awful lot-Al's leaving out a huge piece of the puzzle by ignoring the fact
that the devastation caused by the meat industry
(http://goveg.com/environment.asp) is among the worst environmental
disasters ever to happen to the world. As we told him in our letter, sent
earlier this week:

While the steps that you urge people to take in An Inconvenient Truth are
inarguably important, the quickest and most effective way to fight climate
change will come through diet change.
An inconvenient truth for him, maybe, but it's the truth nonetheless. Since
he might not have seen the recent U.N. reports
(http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=20772&Cr=global&Cr1=environment)
on the subject, we pointed out to him that animals raised for food generate
more greenhouse gases (http://goveg.com/environment-globalwarming.asp) than
all cars and trucks combined, and that (according to a recent University of
Chicago study), switching to a vegan diet is more effective in countering
global warming than switching from a standard American car to a Prius. We've
also offered to cook him some faux "fried chicken" as an introduction to
meat-free meals, since, however many documentaries you make, you just can't
be a meat-eating environmentalist. I'll let you know if he gets back to us.

http://blog.peta.org/archives/2007/03/clearing_a_few.php
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http://home.austarnet.com.au/yours/Global%20Warming%20Problem.gif

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Global warming on Mars
In its ninth year in orbit around Mars, NASA's Mars Global Surveyor has made
a number of surprising discoveries. For three Mars summers in a row,
deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars' south pole have shrunk from the
previous year's size, suggesting a climate change in progress. Apparently,
President Bush's environmental policies are so destructive that they are
causing global warming throughout the solar system.
--Harry Dope


pearl

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Mar 8, 2007, 9:31:12 AM3/8/07
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"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message news:45f01afe$0$5249$4c36...@roadrunner.com...

> For all the good he's done for the environment-which, to be fair, is an
> awful lot-Al's leaving out a huge piece of the puzzle by ignoring the fact
> that the devastation caused by the meat industry
> (http://goveg.com/environment.asp) is among the worst environmental
> disasters ever to happen to the world. As we told him in our letter, sent
> earlier this week:
>
> While the steps that you urge people to take in An Inconvenient Truth are
> inarguably important, the quickest and most effective way to fight climate
> change will come through diet change.
> An inconvenient truth for him, maybe, but it's the truth nonetheless. Since
> he might not have seen the recent U.N. reports
> (http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=20772&Cr=global&Cr1=environment)
> on the subject, we pointed out to him that animals raised for food generate
> more greenhouse gases (http://goveg.com/environment-globalwarming.asp) than
> all cars and trucks combined, and that (according to a recent University of
> Chicago study), switching to a vegan diet is more effective in countering
> global warming than switching from a standard American car to a Prius. We've
> also offered to cook him some faux "fried chicken" as an introduction to
> meat-free meals, since, however many documentaries you make, you just can't
> be a meat-eating environmentalist. I'll let you know if he gets back to us.
>
> http://blog.peta.org/archives/2007/03/clearing_a_few.php

Yes! Thank you!

CB

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Mar 8, 2007, 9:52:16 AM3/8/07
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"pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote in message
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You're welcome

I'm going threw withdraws already. I used half the milk and omitted the
cheese I usually put in my eggs ;)

It'll get better


pearl

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Mar 8, 2007, 10:25:14 AM3/8/07
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"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message news:45f02321$0$5762$4c36...@roadrunner.com...

No need to suffer at all. Substitute, substitute, substitute..
http://vegcooking.com/VegCooking.asp , also
http://www.living-foods.com/recipes/ . ... And enjoy. :)


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LOL. Try vegetarian first, then vegan. You might find it easier.
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Mar 8, 2007, 12:01:26 PM3/8/07
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On Mar 8, 9:17 am, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> For all the good he's done for the environment-which, to be fair, is an
> awful lot-Al's leaving out a huge piece of the puzzle by ignoring the fact
> that the devastation caused by the meat industry
> (http://goveg.com/environment.asp) is among the worst environmental
> disasters ever to happen to the world. As we told him in our letter, sent
> earlier this week:

We knew that though,
Which is why Al Gore discovered
the San Franciso bridge.
Since it is meatless, and
100% pure Excel Laptop morons.


>
> While the steps that you urge people to take in An Inconvenient Truth are
> inarguably important, the quickest and most effective way to fight climate
> change will come through diet change.
> An inconvenient truth for him, maybe, but it's the truth nonetheless. Since
> he might not have seen the recent U.N. reports

> (http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=20772&Cr=global&Cr1=envi...)


> on the subject, we pointed out to him that animals raised for food generate
> more greenhouse gases (http://goveg.com/environment-globalwarming.asp) than
> all cars and trucks combined, and that (according to a recent University of
> Chicago study), switching to a vegan diet is more effective in countering
> global warming than switching from a standard American car to a Prius. We've
> also offered to cook him some faux "fried chicken" as an introduction to
> meat-free meals, since, however many documentaries you make, you just can't
> be a meat-eating environmentalist. I'll let you know if he gets back to us.
>
> http://blog.peta.org/archives/2007/03/clearing_a_few.php
> --
> CB
> What put's Algore in his lockbox?http://home.austarnet.com.au/yours/Global%20Warming%20Problem.gif
>

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James

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"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
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So you are switching to vegetarianism for the global warming scam?


CB

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"James" <king...@iglou.com> wrote in message
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Not for that, to reduce the pollution that cows and chickens excrete into
the soil

>
>


Lloyd

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Mar 8, 2007, 1:31:33 PM3/8/07
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On Mar 8, 9:17 am, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> For all the good he's done for the environment-which, to be fair, is an
> awful lot-Al's leaving out a huge piece of the puzzle by ignoring the fact
> that the devastation caused by the meat industry
> (http://goveg.com/environment.asp) is among the worst environmental
> disasters ever to happen to the world. As we told him in our letter, sent
> earlier this week:
>
> While the steps that you urge people to take in An Inconvenient Truth are
> inarguably important, the quickest and most effective way to fight climate
> change will come through diet change.
> An inconvenient truth for him, maybe, but it's the truth nonetheless. Since
> he might not have seen the recent U.N. reports
> (http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=20772&Cr=global&Cr1=envi...)

> on the subject, we pointed out to him that animals raised for food generate
> more greenhouse gases (http://goveg.com/environment-globalwarming.asp) than
> all cars and trucks combined, and that (according to a recent University of
> Chicago study),

Yes, but animals have been putting out CO2 for millions of years. So
(1) it's in equilibrium and (2) the CO2 uses new carbon, not old.

>switching to a vegan diet is more effective in countering
> global warming than switching from a standard American car to a Prius.

For that matter, so is holding your breath.

>We've
> also offered to cook him some faux "fried chicken" as an introduction to
> meat-free meals, since, however many documentaries you make, you just can't
> be a meat-eating environmentalist. I'll let you know if he gets back to us.
>
> http://blog.peta.org/archives/2007/03/clearing_a_few.php
> --
> CB

> 2006 power billhttp://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/07.03.04.ConspicConsump-X.gif


>
> Global warming on Mars
> In its ninth year in orbit around Mars, NASA's Mars Global Surveyor has made
> a number of surprising discoveries. For three Mars summers in a row,
> deposits of frozen carbon dioxide near Mars' south pole have shrunk from the
> previous year's size, suggesting a climate change in progress. Apparently,
> President Bush's environmental policies are so destructive that they are
> causing global warming throughout the solar system.
> --Harry Dope

Apparently you are an idiot. But why flaunt it?

Umberto Ramirez

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Mar 8, 2007, 1:58:51 PM3/8/07
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In article <45f01afe$0$5249$4c36...@roadrunner.com>,
"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

> For all the good he's done for the environment-which, to be fair, is an
> awful lot-Al's leaving out a huge piece of the puzzle by ignoring the fact
> that the devastation caused by the meat industry
> (http://goveg.com/environment.asp) is among the worst environmental
> disasters ever to happen to the world. As we told him in our letter, sent
> earlier this week:
>
> While the steps that you urge people to take in An Inconvenient Truth are
> inarguably important, the quickest and most effective way to fight climate
> change will come through diet change.
> An inconvenient truth for him, maybe, but it's the truth nonetheless. Since
> he might not have seen the recent U.N. reports
> (http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=20772&Cr=global&Cr1=environment)
>
> on the subject, we pointed out to him that animals raised for food generate
> more greenhouse gases (http://goveg.com/environment-globalwarming.asp) than
> all cars and trucks combined, and that (according to a recent University of
> Chicago study), switching to a vegan diet is more effective in countering
> global warming than switching from a standard American car to a Prius. We've
> also offered to cook him some faux "fried chicken" as an introduction to
> meat-free meals, since, however many documentaries you make, you just can't
> be a meat-eating environmentalist. I'll let you know if he gets back to us.
>
> http://blog.peta.org/archives/2007/03/clearing_a_few.php

I appreciate that you recognize that the amount of greenhouse gasses
produced by 'all the cars and trucks combined' is relatively low.

But I wonder if you appreciate the fact that the animals we raise as
food have been domesticated to such an extent that to stop eating them
and stop raising them, they will become extinct - they lack the natural
defenses and metabolism to successfully exist in the wild.

They'd still have to dies, somehow. We would either have to kill them
all off until the supply is exhausted - and then quit eating them 'cold
turkey', as it were or, we'd have to care for them in some kind of adult
care cow facility or home. This is impractical, because there is not
enough time to train enough people to provide hospice care to elderly
cows, and the farmers will be busy, out looking for new, more
earth-friendly jobs.

Not only that, but take veal, which accounts for only 1/12 of the total
production of beef cattle. Allowing these animals to live several years
longer than they would have otherwise, would have a counterproductive
effect, as there would temporarily be a 7-8 percent rise in population
from those animals, which translates into more global warming, more
quickly, to say nothing of the much greater rise in population of the
steers and heifers that would be living to a ripe old age. Without
continued production, there would be a sudden, devastating increase in
greenhouse gasses on Earth, and potentially the entire solar system, for
all we know. (send me a grant and I'll check it out)

A much better solution would be to slaughter all those animals we DON'T
eat - and as quickly as possible. This would have an immediate,
BENEFICIAL effect for the Earth, and still allow people the choice of
meat until they become fully indoctrinated.

That way humans, as a population, would taper off their consumption, as
the supplies naturally dwindle.

In fact, a kind of compromise could be reached that would make it both
easier for people to live with, and at the same time, benefit mother
earth: for example, one elephant produces 15 times more greenhouse
gasses than domesticated cattle, and a hippo a whopping 25 times more.

Slaughtering an elephant and a hippo would allow for the continued
husbandry of 40 ordinary cattle, so we could taper back consumption that
way. Once the Elephants and Hippos are gone, we can either look at
other animals, such as elk, moose and giraffes, or just start killing
off more cows. Of course, we'd have to be careful so the earth doesn't
get 'too' cold.

Other than that, it's a great idea, but we have to look at the effects
of our actions on mother Earth.

;)

Joe Fischer

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Mar 8, 2007, 4:51:13 PM3/8/07
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On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 "pearl" <t...@signguestbook.ie> wrote:

>> I'm going threw withdraws already. I used half the milk and omitted the
>> cheese I usually put in my eggs ;)
>>
>> It'll get better
>
>No need to suffer at all. Substitute, substitute, substitute..
>http://vegcooking.com/VegCooking.asp , also
>http://www.living-foods.com/recipes/ . ... And enjoy. :)

Go ahead, but if you don't eat meat at least
twice per week, then a lot of corn and beans are
needed to provide the essential amino acids to
sustain life, and natural human produced insulin
is just about all amino acids.

Joe Fischer

Joe Fischer

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Mar 8, 2007, 4:56:44 PM3/8/07
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On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

>>> It'll get better
>> So you are switching to vegetarianism for the global warming scam?
>
>Not for that, to reduce the pollution that cows and chickens excrete into
>the soil

Then the farmers will have to buy more fertilizer
made from natural gas, is that your object?

Joe Fischer

pearl

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"Joe Fischer" <j...@bigscreencomputers.com> wrote in message news:c511v2pomsdml5ab4...@4ax.com...

'Analyses of data from the China studies by his collaborators
and others, Campbell told the epidemiology symposium, is
leading to policy recommendations. He mentioned three:

* The greater the variety of plant-based foods in the diet, the
greater the benefit. Variety insures broader coverage of known
and unknown nutrient needs.

* Provided there is plant food variety, quality and quantity,
a healthful and nutritionally complete diet can be attained
without animal-based food.

* The closer the food is to its native state - with minimal
heating, salting and processing - the greater will be the benefit.

http://www.sdearthtimes.com/et1101/et1101s18.html


pearl

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"Joe Fischer" <j...@bigscreencomputers.com> wrote in message news:bi11v21gn5d5eb9jj...@4ax.com...

'In 1991, Dr. Sanchez accepted a position as the head of ICRAF
in Nairobi, Kenya. There, he quickly discovered that African
agricultural production lagged due to the extremely depleted nature
of the soil. Dr. Sanchez' most enduring contribution to ending
world hunger has been his development of the means to replenish
crucial nutrients in exhausted soils, through the development and
promotion of agroforestry. This practice of planting trees on farms,
when combined with adding locally available rock phosphate to
the soil, has provided farmers in Africa with a way to fertilize
their soils inexpensively and naturally, without relying on costly
chemical fertilizers.

The 150,000 small scale farmers who are utilizing Dr. Sanchez'
methods are experiencing greatly increased yields, in some cases
200% to 400% above previous plantings. In response to this
success, ICRAF plans to help African farmers plant 5.5 billion
more trees over the next decade, the equivalent of another
tropical rainforest. ICRAF's goal is to move 20 million people
out of poverty and remove more that 100 million tons of CO2
from the air with this project.'
http://www.worldfoodprize.org/2002Laureate/pressrelease.htm

CB

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"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
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By the way, I didn't say I was going to be a vegeitarian, I said I was gonna
cut out half my meat consumption.

Last night I had a fish burger at the BK Lounge. Ya gotta start somewhere.

I'll admit my freezer is filled with delicious meats, even venison. I just
took out some ribs for when we come back from fishing....empty handed.

CB
"A zebra does not change its spots."
-- Al Gore, attacking President George Bush in 1992.


CB

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"Umberto Ramirez" <Urami...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hhaha...who ever said we should stop eating meat? Not me, I had a Pavlovian
moment just thinking about the ribs just taken out for when I come home
empty handed from fishing tomorrow.

You have some wild imagination there, Umberto. No ones out to take your
cecina away.

Loki Laufeyjarson

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LOL! You're funny.

Actually, Al has set very legitimate and critical environmental
progress back by at LEAST twenty years. For his own enrichment and
ego gratification, he picked up a turd (bad science), sprayed it with
gold paint (with CFC propellant of course) and smugly tried to tell us
all it's a gold bar. He's even given junk science a bad name -- and
caused a small army of gullible morons like you to swoon from the
hard-ons he gave you all.

If you don't like cow farts, then stop eating beef. Meanwhile, follow
the example of a better man than you:

While vacuous, resource squandering liberals like Al Gore blabber on
and on about how much they care for the environment, many
conservatives quietly live by the very environmental values preached
by the liberal hypocrites. The shallow, intellectual and personal
dishonesty of many loud mouth liberals is not merely annoying, it's
actually pretty comical. Consider who DID take this issue more
seriously ...

The 4,000-square-foot house is a model of environmental rectitude.
Geothermal heat pumps located in a central closet circulate water
through pipes buried 300 feet deep in the ground where the temperature
is a constant 67 degrees; the water heats the house in the winter and
cools it in the summer. Systems such as the one in this "eco-friendly"
dwelling use about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and
cooling systems utilize.

A 25,000-gallon underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from
roof runs; wastewater from sinks, toilets and showers goes into
underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern. The
water from the cistern is used to irrigate the landscaping surrounding
the four-bedroom home. Plants and flowers native to the high prairie
area blend the structure into the surrounding ecosystem.

No, this is not the home of some eccentrically wealthy eco-freak
trying to shame his fellow citizens into following his pristine,
self-righteous example. And no, it is not the wilderness retreat
of the Sierra Club or the Natural Resources Defense Council, a haven
where tree-huggers plot political strategy. No, it belongs to a person
who simply and quietly practices what Al Gore preaches but fails to
live by in his own life ...

...

...

...

...

This is the "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford,
Texas, owned by President George W. Bush.

Darth Chaos

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On Mar 9, 11:18 pm, Loki Laufeyjarson <BadN...@NoLooters.com> wrote:

> This is the "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford,
> Texas, owned by President George W. Bush.

If George Dubya Bush is so Texan, then how come he talks with a
perfect Northern Atlantic accent? And how come he's afraid to ride a
horse? If Bush can pretend to be Texan, then so can these
two.......all the way from Sheffield, England:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TehQxR84xpM

"Lemme see that al-Qaeda shirt." (actually an Alamo shirt)

:)

CB

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"Darth Chaos" <DarthCha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 9, 11:18 pm, Loki Laufeyjarson <BadN...@NoLooters.com> wrote:
>
>> This is the "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford,
>> Texas, owned by President George W. Bush.
>
> If George Dubya Bush is so Texan, then how come he talks with a
> perfect Northern Atlantic accent? And how come he's afraid to ride a
> horse? If Bush can pretend to be Texan, then so can these
> two.......all the way from Sheffield, England:

Heh...let's see algore match President Bush in deed first


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On 12 Mar 2007 01:48:42 -0700, "Darth Chaos"
<DarthCha...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mar 9, 11:18 pm, Loki Laufeyjarson <BadN...@NoLooters.com> wrote:
>
>> This is the "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford,
>> Texas, owned by President George W. Bush.
>
>If George Dubya Bush is so Texan, then how come he talks with a
>perfect Northern Atlantic accent? And how come he's afraid to ride a
>horse? If Bush can pretend to be Texan, then so can these
>two.......all the way from Sheffield, England:

LOL! Great response clown. Please continue to display the vast
intellectual firepower so common to the looting left. Ungrateful
morons like you are simply the best possible argument against your
idiotic agenda that decent folks everywhere could hope for.

GOP 4th Reich Microscopic Brains

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CB

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"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
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>

By the way, I didn't say I was going to be a vegeitarian, I said I was gonna
> cut out half my meat consumption.
>
> Last night I had a fish burger at the BK Lounge. Ya gotta start somewhere.
>
> I'll admit my freezer is filled with delicious meats, even venison. I just
> took out some ribs for when we come back from fishing....empty handed.
>
> CB
> "A zebra does not change its spots."
> -- Al Gore, attacking President George Bush in 1992.

UPDATE:

I've lost about 17 lbs. since I took the pledge to reduce red meat
consumption. I feel great! I eat more salads (with grilled chicken).

With the price of gas meat has really gone up in price. Not buying red meat
has offset the cost of driving.
>
>


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CB

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> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 11:39:18 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>
>>By the way, I didn't say I was going to be a vegeitarian, I said I was
>>gonna
>>> cut out half my meat consumption.
>
> IOW, sucking half the rightwing dicks per day is going
> to help your weight?
>

And people wonder why I call you a nigger you fag


gringo

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we know why, cb. You're a racist and a homophobic homosexual.

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On Jun 2, 10:39 am, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

> With the price of gasmeathas really gone up in price. Not buying redmeat


> has offset the cost of driving.

It just shows that Big Oil and Big Food are in cahoots with each
other. Unfortunately, Big Pharma (and its front group the CSPI) stands
to gain from this government-manufactured obesity epidemic and
government-manufactured energy crisis. The real rulers of the world
don't want a population full of healthy energetic people. They want a
population full of sick unenergetic people. The sick are easier to
control than the healthy.

Frank Pittel

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Jun 3, 2007, 2:41:42 PM6/3/07
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Darth Chaos <DarthCha...@gmail.com> wrote:

What drugs were you high on when you wrote this post?
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dh

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Jun 3, 2007, 2:48:42 PM6/3/07
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 11:39:18 -0400, "CB"
<C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:


>By the way, I didn't say I was going to be a vegeitarian, I said I was gonna
> cut out half my meat consumption.

· From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people
get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well
over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people
get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm
machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and
draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is
likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings
derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products
contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and
better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. ·

Here we see plowing:
http://tinyurl.com/8fmxe

and here harrowing:
http://tinyurl.com/zqr2v

both of which kill animals by crushing, mutilation, suffocation,
and exposing them to predators. We can see that planting
kills in similar ways:
http://tinyurl.com/k6sku

and death from herbicides and pesticides needs to be
kept in mind:
http://tinyurl.com/ew2j5

Harvesting kills of course by crushing and mutilation, and
it also removes the surviving animals' food, and it exposes
them to predators:
http://tinyurl.com/otp5l

In the case of rice there's additional killing as well caused
by flooding:
http://tinyurl.com/qhqx3

and later by draining and destroying the environment which
developed as the result of the flooding:
http://tinyurl.com/rc9m3

Cattle eating grass rarely if ever cause anywhere near
as much suffering and death. ·
http://tinyurl.com/q7whm

Darth Chaos

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On Jun 3, 1:41 pm, Frank Pittel <f...@warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:

> In alt.politics.usa.republican Darth Chaos <DarthChaosofR...@gmail.com> wrote:
> : On Jun 2, 10:39 am, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
> : > With the price of gasmeathas really gone up in price. Not buying redmeat
> : > has offset the cost of driving.
>
> : It just shows that Big Oil and Big Food are in cahoots with each
> : other. Unfortunately, Big Pharma (and its front group the CSPI) stands
> : to gain from this government-manufactured obesity epidemic and
> : government-manufactured energy crisis. The real rulers of the world
> : don't want a population full of healthy energetic people. They want a
> : population full of sick unenergetic people. The sick are easier to
> : control than the healthy.
>
> What drugs were you high on when you wrote this post?

I always amuses me when some brainwashed zombie think a well-informed
individual has to be on drugs.

Frank Pittel

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Jun 5, 2007, 10:31:41 AM6/5/07
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In alt.politics.usa.republican Darth Chaos <DarthCha...@gmail.com> wrote:

ROFLMAO!!! You need to give warning when posting something like that!
I laughed so hard I alomst choked on the water I was drinking when I
read the post. A "well-informed individual" now that's funny!! At the
very least you're a tin foil hat wearing dope smoking left wing kook.

Rich Travsky

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CB

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Richy 'is' just a homo who lift his wife for a man


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dh

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Jun 6, 2007, 1:57:59 PM6/6/07
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So? Why?

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Rich Travsky

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CB

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Ax him


Rich Travsky

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Jul 19, 2007, 12:14:00 AM7/19/07
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That would be you...

RT

CB

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Yup and I's deed

>
> RT


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Talk-n-Dog

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Jul 24, 2007, 1:32:11 PM7/24/07
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Cl...@Knicklas.com wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:10:14 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>> "Rich Travsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
>
>
>>>>>>> And people wonder why I call you a nigger you fag
>
>> So? Why?
>
>>>> Ax him
>>> That would be you...
>> Yup and I's deed
>
> Mocking Black speech is a sign of a true Racist, Barta
>
Is mocking French speech racist? How about Mocking the BRONKS
sssssssssspeech? How about mocking the PROPER English that I see mocked
on these PC comedies.

--
An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out

http://OutSourcedNews.com


The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a
bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the
whole thing.

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Talk-n-Dog

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Cl...@Knicklas.com wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:32:11 -0400, Talk-n-Dog
> <Watc...@talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>
>> Cl...@Knicklas.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:10:14 -0400, "CB"
>>> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Rich Travsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>>>>>> And people wonder why I call you a nigger you fag
>>>> So? Why?
>>>>>> Ax him
>>>>> That would be you...
>>>> Yup and I's deed
>>> Mocking Black speech is a sign of a true Racist, Barta
>>>
>> Is mocking French speech racist?
>
> The French, NYorkers, and English aren't a race,
> stupid
>

Sorry, but there's a million White kids that talk black too, so what's
your point?

Talk-n-Dog

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Cl...@Knicklas.com wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:32:11 -0400, Talk-n-Dog
> <Watc...@talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>
>> Cl...@Knicklas.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:10:14 -0400, "CB"
>>> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Rich Travsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>>>>>> And people wonder why I call you a nigger you fag
>>>> So? Why?
>>>>>> Ax him
>>>>> That would be you...
>>>> Yup and I's deed
>>> Mocking Black speech is a sign of a true Racist, Barta
>>>
>> Is mocking French speech racist?
>
> The French, NYorkers, and English aren't a race,
> stupid

I'll imitate the whites that speak like blacks that are not French.
(Nappy headed moron)

john fernbach

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"Four legs good! Two legs bad!
Four legs good! Two legs bad!"

-- the Sheep (= Communist party hacks) using slogans
to disrupt a political speech
in Orwell's parable "Animal Farm"

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On Jul 24, 6:30 pm, Talk-n-Dog <Watch...@talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
> Cl...@Knicklas.com wrote:

> > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:32:11 -0400, Talk-n-Dog
> > <Watch...@talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>
> >> Cl...@Knicklas.com wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:10:14 -0400, "CB"
> >>> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>

> >>>> "Rich Travsky" <traRvE...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message


>
> >>>>>>>>> And people wonder why I call you a nigger you fag
> >>>> So? Why?
> >>>>>> Ax him
> >>>>> That would be you...
> >>>> Yup and I's deed
> >>> Mocking Black speech is a sign of a true Racist, Barta
>
> >> Is mocking French speech racist?
>
> > The French, NYorkers, and English aren't a race,
> > stupid
>
> I'll imitate the whites that speak like blacks that are not French.
> (Nappy headed moron)
>
> --
> An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out
>
> http://OutSourcedNews.com
>
> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a
> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the

> whole thing.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


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Cl...@Knicklas.com wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:22:07 -0400, Talk-n-Dog
> <Watc...@talk-n-dog.com> wrote:
>

I didn't start the thread, some piss ant did, I cleaned it up and
pointed out the bullshit in his racist garbage, as for what these kids
write? You can buy a rap CD and enjoy...

Suggestion: Let this thread die!

Rich Travsky

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Could you repost that in English please?

CB

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That Gary Roselle has the low life character of a nigger for the words he
said, "IOW, sucking half the rightwing dicks per day is going
to help your weight?" <--- words of a nigger

There ya go.

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On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 11:39:18 -0400, "CB"
<C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:


>By the way, I didn't say I was going to be a vegeitarian, I said I was
>gonna
>> cut out half my meat consumption.

IOW, sucking half the rightwing dicks per day is going
to help your weight?

______________

Yuh, Gary is a nigger. Not for the skin he wears (pasty white), because of
the words he 'chooses' to say


Talk-n-Dog

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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> By the way, I didn't say I was going to be a vegeitarian, I said
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> gonna
>>>>>>>>>>> cut out half my meat consumption.


Cow Flatulence is adding to Global warming, I'm doing my part to save us
from Global warming, I'm eating those cows as fast as I can...

And I open the window, then turn the air conditioner colder, What have
you done to save the world today?

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Cl...@Knicklas.com wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:16:21 -0400, "CB"
> <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>
>> Yuh, Gary is a nigger. Not for the skin he wears (pasty white), because of
>> the words he 'chooses' to say
>>
>
> The definition of words is NOT your responsibility to
> make, you dumb asshole
>
> The word "nigger" is RACIST

Except, apparently, when used by blacks.

Cheers,

Rich

> Period.
>

Rich Travsky

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