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<https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAMC-D-17-0274.1?af=R>
An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States
between 1948 and 2015
Evan M. Oswald
09 May 2018
Abstract
Unusually hot weather is a major concern to public health as well as
other systems (e.g. ecological, economical, energy). This study
utilized spatially continuous and homogenized observational
surface-climate data to examine changes in the regularity of heat
waves in the continental United States (US). This included examination
of heat waves according only to daytime temperatures, nighttime
temperatures, and both daytime and nighttime temperatures. Results
confirmed strong increase in the prevalence of heat waves between the
mid-1970s and dataset end (2015), and that increase was preceded by
mild decrease since dataset beginning (1948). Results were unclear
whether the prevalence of nighttime or simultaneous daytime-nighttime
heat waves increased the most, but were clear that increases were
largest in the summer. The largest gains occurred in the
West/Southwest, and a "warming hole" was most conspicuous in the
Northern Plains. The changes in heat wave prevalence were similar to
changes in the mean temperatures, and more so in the daytime heat
waves. Daytime and nighttime heat waves coincided with one another
more frequently in recent years than they did in the 1970s. Some parts
of the US (Pacific Coast) were more likely then other parts to
experience daytime and nighttime heat waves simultaneously. While
linear trends were not sensitive to climate dataset, trend estimation
method, or heat wave definition; they were mildly sensitive to the
start/end dates and extremely sensitive to climate base period method
(fixed in time or directly preceding any given heat wave).
--
Living in Wyndham, the hottest town in Australia, where roads melt and your
skin sizzles
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9744136-3x2-700x467.jpg>
* WA just had its second hottest April on record and its driest in 24 years
* Why has this autumn felt more like summer?
* WA's iron ore mine closure leaves Wyndham locals jobless, 'ashamed'
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for 22 years. He describes it as a friendly little place, which at times
feels like an oven.
He once saw a road get so hot, the bitumen melted and trickled into the
street gutter.
[#idiocracy]
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An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States
between 1948 and 2015
There has been a "strong increase" in the prevalence of heat waves in
the US between the mid-1970s and 2015, a new study finds. Analysis of
observed data show that increases in heatwave frequency are similar
for both daytime and nighttime, but largest in summer. Looking at
different regions, the findings suggest the biggest heatwave increases
have occurred in the west and southwest, while the Pacific Coast was
most likely to experience daytime and nighttime heatwaves
simultaneously. -- Journal of Applied Meteorology and Climatology
Consequences of 1.5#C and 2#C global warming levels for temperature and precipitation changes over Central Africa
New research explores the likely changes in temperature and rainfall
changes over Central Africa at 1.5C and 2C of warming above
pre-industrial levels. Based on a collection of 25 regional climate
model simulations, the findings suggest the region will warm at a
faster pace than the global average, with "a tendency towards
decreasing seasonal precipitation in March-May, and a reduction of
consecutive wet days". As a result, "there are obvious advantages to
reduce global warming to 1.5#C relative to 2#C in regard of the
reduced frequency and magnitude of precipitation extremes", the
researchers conclude. -- Environmental Research Letters
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An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States
between 1948 and 2015
Evan M. Oswald
09 May 2018
Abstract
Unusually hot weather is a major concern to public health as well as
other systems (e.g. ecological, economical, energy). This study
utilized spatially continuous and homogenized observational
surface-climate data to examine changes in the regularity of heat
waves in the continental United States (US). This included examination
of heat waves according only to daytime temperatures, nighttime
temperatures, and both daytime and nighttime temperatures. Results
confirmed strong increase in the prevalence of heat waves between the
mid-1970s and dataset end (2015), and that increase was preceded by
mild decrease since dataset beginning (1948). Results were unclear
whether the prevalence of nighttime or simultaneous daytime-nighttime
heat waves increased the most, but were clear that increases were
largest in the summer. The largest gains occurred in the
West/Southwest, and a "warming hole" was most conspicuous in the
Northern Plains. The changes in heat wave prevalence were similar to
changes in the mean temperatures, and more so in the daytime heat
waves. Daytime and nighttime heat waves coincided with one another
more frequently in recent years than they did in the 1970s. Some parts
of the US (Pacific Coast) were more likely then other parts to
experience daytime and nighttime heat waves simultaneously. While
linear trends were not sensitive to climate dataset, trend estimation
method, or heat wave definition; they were mildly sensitive to the
start/end dates and extremely sensitive to climate base period method
(fixed in time or directly preceding any given heat wave).
--
Living in Wyndham, the hottest town in Australia, where roads melt and your
skin sizzles
<http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9744136-3x2-700x467.jpg>
* WA just had its second hottest April on record and its driest in 24 years
* Why has this autumn felt more like summer?
* WA's iron ore mine closure leaves Wyndham locals jobless, 'ashamed'
ABC News, 10 May 2018 8:00am
Paul Cavanagh has lived in Wyndham, Western Australia's northernmost town,
for 22 years. He describes it as a friendly little place, which at times
feels like an oven.
He once saw a road get so hot, the bitumen melted and trickled into the
street gutter.
[#idiocracy]
Council tears up 'handball court' after residents complain about noisy children
ABC News, 10 May 2018
A concrete slab used by local children for handball in a small Kelvin Grove
park is ripped up by Brisbane City Council just months after it was laid due
to noise complaints.
Novartis and AT&T Spoke to Mueller's Office About Payments to Michael Cohen
New York Times, 10 May 2018 01:02Z
WEATHER AUTHORITY: Las Vegas hits record 105-degrees today
News3LV, 10 May 2018 02:40Z
SafeWork SA to face public inquiry after 'a number of complaints and reports'
ABC News, 10 May 2018 03:20Z
SafeWork SA comes under fire, with confirmation of an evaluation into its
practices, policies and procedures following several complaints against its
integrity over the last 5 years.
Kenyan dam burst causes 'huge destruction of both life and property'
ABC News, 10 May 2018 3:57pm
A dam has burst in a Kenyan town after heavy rain, causing "huge
destruction" and deaths, a govt official says.
Chart of the day: Australia's income tax is getting progressively less
progressive
ABC News, 10 May 2018 05:17Z
Australia's progressive tax system has been getting progressively flatter
for more than thirty years, and the Government wants to keep that trend going.
[The latest proposal is a 33% "bracket" from 45k to 199k].
Ancient cave reveals secrets of technological innovation in the Stone Age
ABC The World Today, 10 May 2018 06:09Z
Archaeologists exploring an enormous cave in Kenya have discovered
some of the oldest examples of technological innovation by humans,
beginning more than 60,000 years ago.
An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States
between 1948 and 2015
There has been a "strong increase" in the prevalence of heat waves in
the US between the mid-1970s and 2015, a new study finds. Analysis of
observed data show that increases in heatwave frequency are similar
for both daytime and nighttime, but largest in summer. Looking at
different regions, the findings suggest the biggest heatwave increases
have occurred in the west and southwest, while the Pacific Coast was
most likely to experience daytime and nighttime heatwaves
simultaneously. -- Journal of Applied Meteorology and Climatology
Consequences of 1.5#C and 2#C global warming levels for temperature and precipitation changes over Central Africa
New research explores the likely changes in temperature and rainfall
changes over Central Africa at 1.5C and 2C of warming above
pre-industrial levels. Based on a collection of 25 regional climate
model simulations, the findings suggest the region will warm at a
faster pace than the global average, with "a tendency towards
decreasing seasonal precipitation in March-May, and a reduction of
consecutive wet days". As a result, "there are obvious advantages to
reduce global warming to 1.5#C relative to 2#C in regard of the
reduced frequency and magnitude of precipitation extremes", the
researchers conclude. -- Environmental Research Letters
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Red Square parade
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New York Times, 09 May 2018 20:11Z
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face angry investors
ABC News, 09 May 2018 22:01Z
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AMP shareholders to vent wrath at AGM as company issues unreserved apology
to Australia
ABC News, 10 May 2018
AMP interim chief Mike Wilkins issues an unreserved apology and says the
fact half the board is due to depart reflects the gravity of issues raised
in the banking royal commission.
Siemens AG
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Blue
May 10, 2018, 7:24:05 AM5/10/18
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On 10/05/2018 11:46, MrPosti...@kymhorsell.com wrote:
> <https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAMC-D-17-0274.1?af=R>
>
> An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States
> between 1948 and 2015
>
> Evan Mosley. Oswald
> <https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAMC-D-17-0274.1?af=R>
>
> An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States
> between 1948 and 2015
>
> 09 May 2018
>
> Abstract
>
> Unusually hot weather is a major concern to public health
But nature is not some child you can tell of, it's just nature.
>
> Abstract
>
> Unusually hot weather is a major concern to public health
> climate base period method
What ever that is when it's at home. So, no mention of CO2 then.
> --
> Living in Wyndham, the hottest town in Australia, where roads melt and your
> skin sizzles
Is this some mad list of places not to live?
Don't live on a sandy beach.
Don't live in the sea.
Don't live in a hot place boiling your skin....
Jobless because the mine has, 'dried up'?
Is that man made CO2 fault?
Don't you like mines drying up?
Paul Aubrin
May 10, 2018, 8:25:21 AM5/10/18
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Le Thu, 10 May 2018 20:46:28 +1000, MrPostingRobot a écrit :
> <https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAMC-D-17-0274.1?af=R>
>
> An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States between
> 1948 and 2015
Since 1970...
> <https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAMC-D-17-0274.1?af=R>
>
> An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States between
> 1948 and 2015
But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they used to
be in the middle of the 20th century.
Example, Tulsa:
https://www.weather.gov/tsa/climo_tul100stats
1st rank: 1936 & 1918 : 22 days
2rd & 4th: 1980
5th: 1934...
Unum
May 10, 2018, 12:45:37 PM5/10/18
to
On 5/10/2018 7:25 AM, Paul Aubrin wrote:
> Le Thu, 10 May 2018 20:46:28 +1000, MrPostingRobot a écrit :
>
>> <https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAMC-D-17-0274.1?af=R>
>>
>> An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States between
>> 1948 and 2015
>
> Since 1970...
> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
> Le Thu, 10 May 2018 20:46:28 +1000, MrPostingRobot a écrit :
>
>> <https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAMC-D-17-0274.1?af=R>
>>
>> An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States between
>> 1948 and 2015
>
> Since 1970...
> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
due to the Clean Air Act.
> The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they used to
> be in the middle of the 20th century.
>
> Example, Tulsa:
Wally W.
May 10, 2018, 7:24:28 PM5/10/18
to
On Thu, 10 May 2018 11:45:30 -0500, Unum wrote:
>On 5/10/2018 7:25 AM, Paul Aubrin wrote:
>> Le Thu, 10 May 2018 20:46:28 +1000, MrPostingRobot a écrit :
>>
>>> <https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAMC-D-17-0274.1?af=R>
>>>
>>> An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States between
>>> 1948 and 2015
>>
>> Since 1970...
>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>
>A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>due to the Clean Air Act.
... which makes greenies responsible for global warming?
>On 5/10/2018 7:25 AM, Paul Aubrin wrote:
>> Le Thu, 10 May 2018 20:46:28 +1000, MrPostingRobot a écrit :
>>
>>> <https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAMC-D-17-0274.1?af=R>
>>>
>>> An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States between
>>> 1948 and 2015
>>
>> Since 1970...
>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>
>A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>due to the Clean Air Act.
>> The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they used to
>> be in the middle of the 20th century.
>>
>> Example, Tulsa:
>
>One city isn't representative of the USA.
Catoni
May 10, 2018, 7:37:17 PM5/10/18
to
On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:45:37 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
> > Since 1970...
> > But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>
> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
> due to the Clean Air Act.
But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
> > Since 1970...
> > But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>
> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
> due to the Clean Air Act.
Why not ?
> > The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they used to
> > be in the middle of the 20th century.
> >
> > Example, Tulsa:
>
> One city isn't representative of the USA.
So I guess the contiguous United States, taking up about 1.58 % of the surface area of the Globe, is not representative of the Globe.
(Thread Title: "strong increase in US heatwaves since 1970s")
I wait with bated breath for you to point that out to your pal Kimmie Horse smell.
Unum
May 10, 2018, 7:56:01 PM5/10/18
to
On 5/10/2018 6:37 PM, Catoni wrote:
> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:45:37 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
>
>>> Since 1970...
>>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>>
>> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>> due to the Clean Air Act.
>
> But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
>
> Why not ?
Clean Air Act eliminated many sources of pollution, you sad little moron.
> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:45:37 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
>
>>> Since 1970...
>>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>>
>> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>> due to the Clean Air Act.
>
> But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
>
> Why not ?
>>> The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they used to
>>> be in the middle of the 20th century.
>>>
>>> Example, Tulsa:
>>
>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>
>
> Then why do you guys continually post about some place in the world having record high temperatures??
> So I guess the contiguous United States, taking up about 1.58 % of the surface area of the Globe, is not representative of the Globe.
> (Thread Title: "strong increase in US heatwaves since 1970s")
>
> I wait with bated breath for you to point that out to your pal Kimmie Horse smell.
Catoni
May 10, 2018, 8:32:37 PM5/10/18
to
On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 7:56:01 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
> >>> Since 1970...
> >>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
> >>
> >> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
> >> due to the Clean Air Act.
> >
> > But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
> >
> > Why not ?
>
> Clean Air Act eliminated many sources of pollution, you sad little moron.
Shit-for-brains "Unum" fails to anwer my question with a dodge attempt.
> >>> Since 1970...
> >>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
> >>
> >> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
> >> due to the Clean Air Act.
> >
> > But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
> >
> > Why not ?
>
> Clean Air Act eliminated many sources of pollution, you sad little moron.
> >>> The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they used to
> >>> be in the middle of the 20th century.
> >>>
> >>> Example, Tulsa:
> >>
> >> One city isn't representative of the USA.
> >
> >
> > Then why do you guys continually post about some place in the world having record high temperatures??
>
> Was it claimed that a particular place is representative of the entire world?
Your pal Horse smell had his "bot" or himself post about U.S. heatwaves.. as if the U.S. is representative of the Globe.
Did Paul Aubrin claim that Tulsa was representative of the whole U.S. ?
Idiot "Unum" must have missed the title of this thread.
> > So I guess the contiguous United States, taking up about 1.58 % of the surface area of the Globe, is not representative of the Globe.
> > (Thread Title: "strong increase in US heatwaves since 1970s")
> >
> > I wait with bated breath for you to point that out to your pal Kimmie Horse smell.
>
> You're just a stinking pile of hate and profanity.
R Kym Horsell
May 10, 2018, 10:35:58 PM5/10/18
to
Unum <non...@yourbusiness.com> wrote:
> On 5/10/2018 6:37 PM, Cantany wrote:
...
allays been a 3% oulier on the wrong side of evvy argyment.
--
[4,040,000 google hits]
Climate Signals | Record High Temps vs. Record Low Temps
www.climatesignals.org/data/record-high-temps-vs-record-low-temps
In a stable climate, the ratio of new record highs to new record lows is ...
at the US ratio between hot and cold temperature records as it stands for
the period of ... the number of days with these formerly extreme temperatures rises precipitously.
Record Highs vs. Record Lows | Climate Central
www.climatecentral.org/gallery/graphics/record-highs-vs-record-lows
Aug 19, 2015 - This year is on pace to be the hottest on record globally,
coming off a record ... The number of record highs being set is especially
telling because the ... warm low-temperature records is outpacing the
corresponding cold ones ...
Heat records in Austroya now 12 times more likely than cold ones ...
https://www.smh.com.au # Environment # Climate change
Sep 9, 2015 - Record hot days are now 12 times more likely in Austroya than
cold ... as Perth on Wednesday had its earliest day of 31 degrees or warmer
in data going ... by an increased number of cold records, which were around
average, ...
Why hot weather records continue to tumble worldwide - Phys.org
https://phys.org # Earth # Environment
Oct 26, 2017 - Whether it's a heatwave in Europe or the "Angry Summer" in
... In Austroya there have been 12 times as many hot records as cold ones in the ...
> On 5/10/2018 6:37 PM, Cantany wrote:
...
>> (Thread Title: "strong increase in US heatwaves since 1970s")
>> I wait with bated breath for you to point that out to your pal Kimmie Horse smell.
> You're just a stinking pile of hate and profanity.
Mr Cartoony knows he has to make 10x mo noise to balance up
>> I wait with bated breath for you to point that out to your pal Kimmie Horse smell.
> You're just a stinking pile of hate and profanity.
allays been a 3% oulier on the wrong side of evvy argyment.
--
[4,040,000 google hits]
Climate Signals | Record High Temps vs. Record Low Temps
www.climatesignals.org/data/record-high-temps-vs-record-low-temps
In a stable climate, the ratio of new record highs to new record lows is ...
at the US ratio between hot and cold temperature records as it stands for
the period of ... the number of days with these formerly extreme temperatures rises precipitously.
Record Highs vs. Record Lows | Climate Central
www.climatecentral.org/gallery/graphics/record-highs-vs-record-lows
Aug 19, 2015 - This year is on pace to be the hottest on record globally,
coming off a record ... The number of record highs being set is especially
telling because the ... warm low-temperature records is outpacing the
corresponding cold ones ...
Heat records in Austroya now 12 times more likely than cold ones ...
https://www.smh.com.au # Environment # Climate change
Sep 9, 2015 - Record hot days are now 12 times more likely in Austroya than
cold ... as Perth on Wednesday had its earliest day of 31 degrees or warmer
in data going ... by an increased number of cold records, which were around
average, ...
Why hot weather records continue to tumble worldwide - Phys.org
https://phys.org # Earth # Environment
Oct 26, 2017 - Whether it's a heatwave in Europe or the "Angry Summer" in
... In Austroya there have been 12 times as many hot records as cold ones in the ...
Paul Aubrin
May 11, 2018, 1:35:32 AM5/11/18
to
Le Thu, 10 May 2018 18:55:53 -0500, Unum a écrit :
> On 5/10/2018 6:37 PM, Catoni wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:45:37 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
>>
>>>> Since 1970...
>>>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>>>
>>> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>>> due to the Clean Air Act.
>>
>> But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
>>
>> Why not ?
>
> Clean Air Act eliminated many sources of pollution, you sad little
> moron.
Indeed. But it was not the only factor susceptible to influence heat waves
> On 5/10/2018 6:37 PM, Catoni wrote:
>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:45:37 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
>>
>>>> Since 1970...
>>>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>>>
>>> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>>> due to the Clean Air Act.
>>
>> But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
>>
>> Why not ?
>
> Clean Air Act eliminated many sources of pollution, you sad little
> moron.
detection. To be fair, an indicator should be based on country weather
stations where the conditions of measure didn't change too much over time.
As far as is known, rural stations show lower temperature trends than
urban ones.
>>>> The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they
>>>> used to be in the middle of the 20th century.
>>>>
>>>> Example, Tulsa:
>>>
>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
if verified, was not global.
>> Then why do you guys continually post about some place in the world
>> having record high temperatures??
>
> Was it claimed that a particular place is representative of the entire
> world?
subject line which mentions /US heat waves/ was the first allegation with
a global scope.
>
>> So I guess the contiguous United States, taking up about 1.58 % of
>> the surface area of the Globe, is not representative of the Globe.
>> (Thread Title: "strong increase in US heatwaves since 1970s")
>>
>> I wait with bated breath for you to point that out to your pal
>> Kimmie Horse smell.
>
> You're just a stinking pile of hate and profanity.
JTEM is right
May 11, 2018, 1:42:17 AM5/11/18
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Paul Aubrin wrote:
> Indeed. But it was not the only factor susceptible to influence heat waves
> detection. To be fair, an indicator should be based on country weather
> stations where the conditions of measure didn't change too much over time.
> As far as is known, rural stations show lower temperature trends than
> urban ones.
Urban areas -- cities -- are "Heat islands."
> Indeed. But it was not the only factor susceptible to influence heat waves
> detection. To be fair, an indicator should be based on country weather
> stations where the conditions of measure didn't change too much over time.
> As far as is known, rural stations show lower temperature trends than
> urban ones.
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/urban-heat-island/
One easy way to fake data, other than comparing
absolutes to averages, is to sample from places
which have grown to be urban over the last 40 to
50 years. It's a given that, as an urban area
now, it would have to be warmer than a generation
or two ago.
-- --
http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/173659309853
Blue
May 11, 2018, 6:07:48 AM5/11/18
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On 11/05/2018 06:35, Paul Aubrin wrote:
> Indeed. But it was not the only factor susceptible to influence heat waves
> detection. To be fair, an indicator should be based on country weather
> stations where the conditions of measure didn't change too much over time.
> As far as is known, rural stations show lower temperature trends than
> urban ones.
Quite, such all encompassing statements such as, 'heat waves' would
> Indeed. But it was not the only factor susceptible to influence heat waves
> detection. To be fair, an indicator should be based on country weather
> stations where the conditions of measure didn't change too much over time.
> As far as is known, rural stations show lower temperature trends than
> urban ones.
include all the growing Urban Heat Islands. Therefore the results
are falsified.
USA population. Doubled.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/user-media.venngage.com/394748-fc29f98983a45c1afd48878940a56ed1.png
Wally W.
May 11, 2018, 7:35:29 AM5/11/18
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On 11 May 2018 05:35:31 GMT, Paul Aubrin wrote:
>Le Thu, 10 May 2018 18:55:53 -0500, Unum a écrit :
>
>> On 5/10/2018 6:37 PM, Catoni wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:45:37 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Since 1970...
>>>>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>>>>
>>>> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>>>> due to the Clean Air Act.
>>>
>>> But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
>>>
>>> Why not ?
>>
>> Clean Air Act eliminated many sources of pollution, you sad little
>> moron.
>
>Indeed. But it was not the only factor susceptible to influence heat waves
>detection. To be fair, an indicator should be based on country weather
>stations where the conditions of measure didn't change too much over time.
>As far as is known, rural stations show lower temperature trends than
>urban ones.
>
>>>>> The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they
>>>>> used to be in the middle of the 20th century.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example, Tulsa:
>>>>
>>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>
>Of course, it was one example. It is enough to prove that the phenomenon,
>if verified, was not global.
Climastrologists can't put forth a falisfiable theory. In their minds,
>Le Thu, 10 May 2018 18:55:53 -0500, Unum a écrit :
>
>> On 5/10/2018 6:37 PM, Catoni wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:45:37 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Since 1970...
>>>>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>>>>
>>>> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>>>> due to the Clean Air Act.
>>>
>>> But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
>>>
>>> Why not ?
>>
>> Clean Air Act eliminated many sources of pollution, you sad little
>> moron.
>
>Indeed. But it was not the only factor susceptible to influence heat waves
>detection. To be fair, an indicator should be based on country weather
>stations where the conditions of measure didn't change too much over time.
>As far as is known, rural stations show lower temperature trends than
>urban ones.
>
>>>>> The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they
>>>>> used to be in the middle of the 20th century.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example, Tulsa:
>>>>
>>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>
>Of course, it was one example. It is enough to prove that the phenomenon,
>if verified, was not global.
no number of exceptions can debunk their claims.
Factor in their contradictory claims, and climastrologists can't be
wrong.
Climastrology was invented to make astrology seem respectable.
columbiaaccidentinvestigation
May 11, 2018, 8:24:06 AM5/11/18
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Paul Aubrin
May 11, 2018, 9:50:14 AM5/11/18
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On Thu, 10 May 2018 11:45:30 -0500, Unum wrote :
>> The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they used
>> to be in the middle of the 20th century.
>>
>> Example, Tulsa:
>
> One city isn't representative of the USA.
982 USHCN stations exeeding 100°F per year 1895-2014.
>> to be in the middle of the 20th century.
>>
>> Example, Tulsa:
>
> One city isn't representative of the USA.
Record years 1930s.
https://www.cjoint.com/c/HElnUbjhiKA
Page 6 of testimony
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/II/II00/20150513/103524/HHRG-114-II00-Wstate-ChristyJ-20150513.pdf
Bret Cahill
May 11, 2018, 10:27:34 AM5/11/18
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> <https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JAMC-D-17-0274.1?af=R>
> An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States
> between 1948 and 2015
> Evan M. Oswald
> 09 May 2018
> Abstract
> Unusually hot weather is a major concern to public health as well as
> other systems (e.g. ecological, economical, energy).
A lot of infra structure, machinery and electronics need to be redesigned for hotter temps.
> An analysis of the prevalence of heat waves in the United States
> between 1948 and 2015
> Evan M. Oswald
> 09 May 2018
> Abstract
> Unusually hot weather is a major concern to public health as well as
> other systems (e.g. ecological, economical, energy).
Large turbo fans can't get off the runway as well as turbo props above 40C. They need a larger bypass ratio.
The sticker on the whole house fan says it is good up to 65 C. That's satisfactory in most places but not valley attics.
A lot of utility transformers explode in June.
Asphalt evaporates out of the pavement leaving a rough crumbly gravel surface.
The PC has a really powerful fan that cuts in above 40 C. The chip hasn't melted yet so maybe Dell knew.
Unum
May 11, 2018, 3:54:17 PM5/11/18
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On 5/10/2018 7:32 PM, Catoni wrote:
> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 7:56:01 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
>
>>>>> Since 1970...
>>>>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>>>>
>>>> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>>>> due to the Clean Air Act.
>>>
>>> But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
>>>
>>> Why not ?
>>
>> Clean Air Act eliminated many sources of pollution, you sad little moron.
>
>
> Shit-for-brains "Unum" fails to anwer my question with a dodge attempt.
The stinking pile of hate and profanity is too stupid to understand
> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 7:56:01 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
>
>>>>> Since 1970...
>>>>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>>>>
>>>> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>>>> due to the Clean Air Act.
>>>
>>> But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
>>>
>>> Why not ?
>>
>> Clean Air Act eliminated many sources of pollution, you sad little moron.
>
>
> Shit-for-brains "Unum" fails to anwer my question with a dodge attempt.
the answer.
>>>>> The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they used to
>>>>> be in the middle of the 20th century.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example, Tulsa:
>>>>
>>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then why do you guys continually post about some place in the world having record high temperatures??
>>
>> Was it claimed that a particular place is representative of the entire world?
>
> The name of this group is "alt.global-warming.
>
> Your pal Horse smell had his "bot" or himself post about U.S. heatwaves.. as if the U.S. is representative of the Globe.
> Did Paul Aubrin claim that Tulsa was representative of the whole U.S. ?
>
> Idiot "Unum" must have missed the title of this thread.
>>> So I guess the contiguous United States, taking up about 1.58 % of the surface area of the Globe, is not representative of the Globe.
>>> (Thread Title: "strong increase in US heatwaves since 1970s")
>>>
>>> I wait with bated breath for you to point that out to your pal Kimmie Horse smell.
>>
>> You're just a stinking pile of hate and profanity.
>
> "Unum"...... is one pathetic brain-dead moron.
Unum
May 11, 2018, 3:58:28 PM5/11/18
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Unum
May 11, 2018, 4:02:34 PM5/11/18
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On 5/11/2018 12:35 AM, Paul Aubrin wrote:
> Le Thu, 10 May 2018 18:55:53 -0500, Unum a écrit :
>
>> On 5/10/2018 6:37 PM, Catoni wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:45:37 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Since 1970...
>>>>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>>>>
>>>> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>>>> due to the Clean Air Act.
>>>
>>> But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
>>>
>>> Why not ?
>>
>> Clean Air Act eliminated many sources of pollution, you sad little
>> moron.
>
> Indeed. But it was not the only factor susceptible to influence heat waves
> detection. To be fair, an indicator should be based on country weather
> stations where the conditions of measure didn't change too much over time.
> As far as is known, rural stations show lower temperature trends than
> urban ones.
No cite means aubrin is lying as usual.
> Le Thu, 10 May 2018 18:55:53 -0500, Unum a écrit :
>
>> On 5/10/2018 6:37 PM, Catoni wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 10, 2018 at 12:45:37 PM UTC-4, Unum wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Since 1970...
>>>>> But it happens that 1970 was the end of a relative cooling period.
>>>>
>>>> A 'cooling period' due to SO2 and particulates pollution, which ended
>>>> due to the Clean Air Act.
>>>
>>> But then it is not supposed to warm up after the cool period ? ?
>>>
>>> Why not ?
>>
>> Clean Air Act eliminated many sources of pollution, you sad little
>> moron.
>
> Indeed. But it was not the only factor susceptible to influence heat waves
> detection. To be fair, an indicator should be based on country weather
> stations where the conditions of measure didn't change too much over time.
> As far as is known, rural stations show lower temperature trends than
> urban ones.
>>>>> The number of days above 100°F in the US are well below what they
>>>>> used to be in the middle of the 20th century.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example, Tulsa:
>>>>
>>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>
> Of course, it was one example. It is enough to prove that the phenomenon,
> if verified, was not global.
>>> Then why do you guys continually post about some place in the world
>>> having record high temperatures??
>>
>> Was it claimed that a particular place is representative of the entire
>> world?
>
> I imagine that, even in the US heat waves are a kind of local thing. The
> subject line which mentions /US heat waves/ was the first allegation with
> a global scope.
>>
>>> So I guess the contiguous United States, taking up about 1.58 % of
>>> the surface area of the Globe, is not representative of the Globe.
>>> (Thread Title: "strong increase in US heatwaves since 1970s")
>>>
>>> I wait with bated breath for you to point that out to your pal
>>> Kimmie Horse smell.
>>
>> You're just a stinking pile of hate and profanity.
>
> He just answer on the same pitch as you do.
R Kym Horsell
May 11, 2018, 6:52:55 PM5/11/18
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Unum <non...@yourbusiness.com> wrote:
data is no noisy just by luck alone some of the cherry picks will show
what they want.
OTOH "heat wave" is defined in terms of the historical distribution
of temps at every station and those trends can be based all available
stations in whatever set. A regression trend is also more robust that
comparing 2 cherry-picked decades because it uses all the data in
the time series.
Anyway, we've looked at this 100F thing before on AGW.
Looking at 100 F days in the US means throwing away data from the majority
of stations. Not adjusting for lapse rate also makes sure all the numbers
across the west stay lower than they would be if they were stations at MSL
and therefore comparable to the coast where 1/2 the US population.
Notice also kooks dont give any kind of confidence bounds for their
comparisons -- a red flag they're so large the comparisons
are meaningless.
--
An investigation by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and
Development found that a quarter of adults in England have maths skills no
better than a 10-year-old, a conclusion that also prompted a political
row in which the Conservatives attacked Labour's record in government.
That means an estimated 8.5 million adults are only able to manage
one-step tasks in arithmetic, sorting numbers or reading graphs. The
same body also concluded that one in six adults could only just
decipher sentences and read a paragraph of text -- the literacy level
of a child in their final year of primary education.
[Hate to tell you, in the 1950s it was not uncommon for a 6yo to read
paragraphs of text in newspapers and decipher them].
-- Guardian, "Business leaders issue stark warning following OECD
education study", 4 Dec 2013
> On 5/11/2018 8:50 AM, Paul /D\ubrin wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 May 2018 11:45:30 -0500, Unum wrote :
>>>> The number of days above 100^0F in the US are well below what they used
>> On Thu, 10 May 2018 11:45:30 -0500, Unum wrote :
>>>> to be in the middle of the 20th century.
>>>> Example, Tulsa:
>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>> 982 USHCN stations exeeding 100^0F per year 1895-2014.
>>>> Example, Tulsa:
>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>> Record years 1930s.
>> https://www.cjoint.com/c/HElnUbjhiKA
>> Page 6 of testimony
>> https://docs.house.gov/meetings/II/II00/20150513/103524/HHRG-114-II00-Wstate-ChristyJ-20150513.pdf
> Christy can't be trusted to provide the correct time of day.
We know kooks prefer ancient measurements and ouliers because the
>> https://www.cjoint.com/c/HElnUbjhiKA
>> Page 6 of testimony
>> https://docs.house.gov/meetings/II/II00/20150513/103524/HHRG-114-II00-Wstate-ChristyJ-20150513.pdf
> Christy can't be trusted to provide the correct time of day.
data is no noisy just by luck alone some of the cherry picks will show
what they want.
OTOH "heat wave" is defined in terms of the historical distribution
of temps at every station and those trends can be based all available
stations in whatever set. A regression trend is also more robust that
comparing 2 cherry-picked decades because it uses all the data in
the time series.
Anyway, we've looked at this 100F thing before on AGW.
Looking at 100 F days in the US means throwing away data from the majority
of stations. Not adjusting for lapse rate also makes sure all the numbers
across the west stay lower than they would be if they were stations at MSL
and therefore comparable to the coast where 1/2 the US population.
Notice also kooks dont give any kind of confidence bounds for their
comparisons -- a red flag they're so large the comparisons
are meaningless.
--
An investigation by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and
Development found that a quarter of adults in England have maths skills no
better than a 10-year-old, a conclusion that also prompted a political
row in which the Conservatives attacked Labour's record in government.
That means an estimated 8.5 million adults are only able to manage
one-step tasks in arithmetic, sorting numbers or reading graphs. The
same body also concluded that one in six adults could only just
decipher sentences and read a paragraph of text -- the literacy level
of a child in their final year of primary education.
[Hate to tell you, in the 1950s it was not uncommon for a 6yo to read
paragraphs of text in newspapers and decipher them].
-- Guardian, "Business leaders issue stark warning following OECD
education study", 4 Dec 2013
Paul Aubrin
May 12, 2018, 8:42:01 AM5/12/18
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On Fri, 11 May 2018 15:02:27 -0500, Unum wrote :
>>>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>>
>> Of course, it was one example. It is enough to prove that the
>> phenomenon,
>> if verified, was not global.
>
> Nope, one isolated instance doesn't prove anything at all.
It is not one isolated instance, as you can easily verify. And even if it
>>>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>>
>> Of course, it was one example. It is enough to prove that the
>> phenomenon,
>> if verified, was not global.
>
> Nope, one isolated instance doesn't prove anything at all.
were, it would still prove that the phenomenon was not global.
Actually the number of days above 100°F peaked during the 1930's.
https://www.cjoint.com/c/HElnUbjhiKA
Paul Aubrin
May 12, 2018, 8:43:42 AM5/12/18
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nothing better at hand.
https://www.cjoint.com/c/HElnUbjhiKA
Paul Aubrin
May 12, 2018, 8:44:50 AM5/12/18
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On Fri, 11 May 2018 22:52:50 +0000, R Kym Horsell wrote :
> We know kooks prefer ancient measurements and ouliers because the data
> is no noisy just by luck alone some of the cherry picks will show what
> they want.
Using archived data is a better practice than using computers to invent
> We know kooks prefer ancient measurements and ouliers because the data
> is no noisy just by luck alone some of the cherry picks will show what
> they want.
some.
https://www.cjoint.com/c/HElnUbjhiKA
Paul Aubrin
May 12, 2018, 10:43:32 AM5/12/18
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On Fri, 11 May 2018 07:27:32 -0700, Bret Cahill wrote :
> Asphalt evaporates out of the pavement leaving a rough crumbly gravel
> surface.
Asphalt already melted in summer 40 years ago. It didn't melt 100 years
> Asphalt evaporates out of the pavement leaving a rough crumbly gravel
> surface.
or 2000 years ago because roads were not asphalted.
> The PC has a really powerful fan that cuts in above 40 C. The chip
> hasn't melted yet so maybe Dell knew.
careful to evacuate it anyway.
Bret Cahill
May 12, 2018, 10:59:40 AM5/12/18
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> > Asphalt evaporates out of the pavement leaving a rough crumbly gravel
> > surface.
> Asphalt already melted in summer 40 years ago.
At least it could recongel back then.
> > surface.
> Asphalt already melted in summer 40 years ago.
Now it sublimates leaving no matrix or binder for the gravel.
Wally W.
May 12, 2018, 12:57:45 PM5/12/18
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On 12 May 2018 12:42:00 GMT, Paul Aubrin wrote:
>On Fri, 11 May 2018 15:02:27 -0500, Unum wrote :
>
>>>>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>>>
>>> Of course, it was one example. It is enough to prove that the
>>> phenomenon,
>>> if verified, was not global.
>>
>> Nope, one isolated instance doesn't prove anything at all.
>
>It is not one isolated instance, as you can easily verify.
Some might not think it would be easy for Unum, but:
>On Fri, 11 May 2018 15:02:27 -0500, Unum wrote :
>
>>>>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>>>
>>> Of course, it was one example. It is enough to prove that the
>>> phenomenon,
>>> if verified, was not global.
>>
>> Nope, one isolated instance doesn't prove anything at all.
>
>It is not one isolated instance, as you can easily verify.
"Give the other person a fine reputation to live up to."
- Dale Carnegie
Paul Aubrin
May 12, 2018, 1:32:25 PM5/12/18
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On Sat, 12 May 2018 07:59:38 -0700, Bret Cahill wrote :
>> > Asphalt evaporates out of the pavement leaving a rough crumbly gravel
>> > surface.
>
>> Asphalt already melted in summer 40 years ago.
>
> At least it could recongel back then.
How do you know that?
>> > Asphalt evaporates out of the pavement leaving a rough crumbly gravel
>> > surface.
>
>> Asphalt already melted in summer 40 years ago.
>
> At least it could recongel back then.
Bret Cahill
May 12, 2018, 11:47:28 PM5/12/18
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> >> > Asphalt evaporates out of the pavement leaving a rough crumbly gravel
> >> > surface.
> >
> >> Asphalt already melted in summer 40 years ago.
> >
> > At least it could recongel back then.
>
> How do you know that?
I enjoyed popping the bubbles and making impressions in the tar with my toes.
> >> > surface.
> >
> >> Asphalt already melted in summer 40 years ago.
> >
> > At least it could recongel back then.
>
> How do you know that?
I never wore shoes in summer and had no problem walking barefoot on oyster beds.
Unum
May 13, 2018, 3:37:01 PM5/13/18
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On 5/12/2018 7:42 AM, Paul Aubrin wrote:
> On Fri, 11 May 2018 15:02:27 -0500, Unum wrote :
>
>>>>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>>>
>>> Of course, it was one example. It is enough to prove that the
>>> phenomenon,
>>> if verified, was not global.
>>
>> Nope, one isolated instance doesn't prove anything at all.
>
> It is not one isolated instance, as you can easily verify. And even if it
It was the one isolated instance aubrin cited.
> On Fri, 11 May 2018 15:02:27 -0500, Unum wrote :
>
>>>>>> One city isn't representative of the USA.
>>>
>>> Of course, it was one example. It is enough to prove that the
>>> phenomenon,
>>> if verified, was not global.
>>
>> Nope, one isolated instance doesn't prove anything at all.
>
> It is not one isolated instance, as you can easily verify. And even if it
Unum
May 13, 2018, 3:37:47 PM5/13/18
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Paul Aubrin
May 13, 2018, 3:50:36 PM5/13/18
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Paul Aubrin
May 13, 2018, 3:51:39 PM5/13/18
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R Kym Horsell
May 13, 2018, 4:08:13 PM5/13/18
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"the majority of X are Y" is not refuted by a single counterexample
or any cherry-picked subset of counterexamples.
They are attracted to the ploy like flies to roadkill.
--
> Europe electricity consumption peaks around 19-20h, and in winter.
> Tunisia being at the same longitude than Europe, at 19h its dark there.
> And as Tunisia lays quite to the north of the tropics, days are shorter
> in winter than in summer.
-- Paul /D\urbin, 8/15/2017 2:08 AM
aubrin obviously didn't bother to read the article, which is why he made
a fool of himself yet again. This particular solar plant is thermal, and
therefore could generate electricity well into the evening.
"an enormous quantity of mirrors to reflect sunlight onto a central collector,
which uses molten salt to store the energy as heat"
-- Unum, 22 Aug 2017 14:14:54
Unum
May 13, 2018, 4:55:29 PM5/13/18
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Paul Aubrin
May 14, 2018, 12:09:36 AM5/14/18
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JTEM is right
May 14, 2018, 12:31:39 AM5/14/18
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Kym Horsell wrote:
> Deniers
Yes, yes, "Climate deniers," because who but
one totally certain of their own inferiority
would need to invent people who "Deny" that
there's a climate, just to convince themselves
that their not a total waste product.
We are inside of an ice age. Do you "Deny" this?
-- --
http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/173868629448
> Deniers
Yes, yes, "Climate deniers," because who but
one totally certain of their own inferiority
would need to invent people who "Deny" that
there's a climate, just to convince themselves
that their not a total waste product.
We are inside of an ice age. Do you "Deny" this?
-- --
http://jtem.tumblr.com/post/173868629448
Paul Aubrin
May 14, 2018, 1:26:49 AM5/14/18
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On Sun, 13 May 2018 21:31:37 -0700, JTEM is right wrote :
> Kym Horsell wrote:
>
>> Deniers
>
> Yes, yes, "Climate deniers," because who but one totally certain of
> their own inferiority would need to invent people who "Deny" that
> there's a climate, just to convince themselves that their not a total
> waste product.
>
> We are inside of an ice age. Do you "Deny" this?
Unum and Kym Horsell clearly understood that the statistic on 100°F and
> Kym Horsell wrote:
>
>> Deniers
>
> Yes, yes, "Climate deniers," because who but one totally certain of
> their own inferiority would need to invent people who "Deny" that
> there's a climate, just to convince themselves that their not a total
> waste product.
>
> We are inside of an ice age. Do you "Deny" this?
more days, based on NOAA data, dismissed their argument. And, as usual,
they choose to scorn the person who drew the graph and tell they
"debunked" the data. Actually, their sophistry did no such thing.
https://www.cjoint.com/c/HElnUbjhiKA
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