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pen

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May 16, 2006, 6:36:26 PM5/16/06
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Maybe it's my Britishness - but honestly, some of the driving in Gib is
AWFUL. Half the scooter drivers seem to have a really determined death
wish, and cars are driven at velocities which are totally incompatible
with road conditions and, indeed, speed limits.
Got a taxi at the airport the other day, the driver was conducting an
animated conversation on his mobile and continued it until halfway down
Queensway.
"Sorry, insurance," he said.
So I said, "Okay, but I wish you'd stop waving your hand around."
"What hand?"
"The one that should have been on the steering wheel!"
He got very huffy with me.
I hate to say it, but Spanish drivers seem a lot better.

Pen

Jimbo.....

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May 17, 2006, 2:55:33 AM5/17/06
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> He got very huffy with me.
> I hate to say it, but Spanish drivers seem a lot better.
>
> Pen
>

you are kidding they are pathetic !...if you don't move the instant the
lights go green a dozen horns sound...so I used to pause at every light just
to annoy them......Gib drivers are OK apart from the ones that scream about
the town all night........and just as long as Jim Watt stays off the road
..... this is how we park in Scotland.....

http://ntlworld.photobox.co.uk/shared/photo.html?c_photo=57610642

Jimbo.....

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May 17, 2006, 3:08:54 AM5/17/06
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>
> you are kidding they are pathetic !...if you don't move the instant the
> lights go green a dozen horns sound...so I used to pause at every light
> just to annoy them......Gib drivers are OK apart from the ones that scream
> about the town all night........

Here are some KWALITY Gib drivers.....nice MK3 cortina.......


http://www.eazi-k.com/goodolddays/chains_cars.jpg


Jim Watt

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May 17, 2006, 3:46:35 AM5/17/06
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On Wed, 17 May 2006 06:55:33 GMT, "Jimbo....."
<jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
>> He got very huffy with me.
>> I hate to say it, but Spanish drivers seem a lot better.
>>
>> Pen
>>
>
>you are kidding they are pathetic !...

What really is pathetic are alcoholic scots with fat wives

--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

Jimbo.....

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May 17, 2006, 4:15:46 AM5/17/06
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>
> What really is pathetic are alcoholic scots with fat wives
>
> --
> Jim Watt

I agree, I know a few, glad we are not like that........


Ken

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May 16, 2006, 7:17:07 PM5/16/06
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"pen" <pen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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While I have no doubt that many in Gib could drive better, have you seen
what happens when a non-Giblet drives in Gib? Have you ever come across the
mayhem when a tourist tries to go up Prince Edward's Road, or better still,
Flat Bastion Road? Ever seen the look of horror on the face of someone
driving up or down Scud Hill? Why do you think non-Giblets are not welcome
to drive up the Upper Rock? Hve you seen the parking places Gib drivers
squeeze their cars into and out of? And I don't mean at a central place like
Safeway. I mean a place such as Tank Ramp. Or even the car park by Elliott's
Hotel.

Ken


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pen

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May 17, 2006, 2:36:29 PM5/17/06
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Ken wrote:

<snip>

> to drive up the Upper Rock? Hve you seen the parking places Gib drivers
> squeeze their cars into and out of? And I don't mean at a central place like
> Safeway. I mean a place such as Tank Ramp. Or even the car park by Elliott's
> Hotel.
>
> Ken


Hey, I lived for many years in central London, Gibraltarians have
nothing to teach me about parking in confined spaces ;). And I know
that as a relative newcomer it's not a good idea to drive round the
difficult bits, I'm working my way through very gradually. But I'm
talking about the behaviour on the main drags. For example, I had
stopped on Line Wall Road, signalling left to turn into the Parcels
Office - and a scooter overtook me at high speed as I was starting to
manoeuvre. What is it with these idiots? It gets to the point where
DH and I hear an ambulance siren and say, "Oh dear, another scooter."
Or you see two scooters, each with a pillion passenger, being driven
next to one another, at speed, with all four people taking to each
other. This is sheer lunacy.

Pen

Ken

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May 17, 2006, 3:06:32 PM5/17/06
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"pen" <pen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Ken wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> to drive up the Upper Rock? Hve you seen the parking places Gib drivers
>> squeeze their cars into and out of? And I don't mean at a central place
>> like
>> Safeway. I mean a place such as Tank Ramp. Or even the car park by
>> Elliott's
>> Hotel.
>>
>> Ken
>
>
> Hey, I lived for many years in central London, Gibraltarians have
> nothing to teach me about parking in confined spaces ;). And I know
> that as a relative newcomer it's not a good idea to drive round the
> difficult bits, I'm working my way through very gradually. But I'm
> talking about the behaviour on the main drags. For example, I had
> stopped on Line Wall Road, signalling left to turn into the Parcels
> Office - and a scooter overtook me at high speed as I was starting to
> manoeuvre.

Oh scooters are another thing altogether. The majority, driven by folk above
the age of 25-ish are OK. It's the relatively few (but still numerous)
hotheads who are too young to shave you have to beware of.


> What is it with these idiots? It gets to the point where
> DH

(who is DH?)


> and I hear an ambulance siren and say, "Oh dear, another scooter."
> Or you see two scooters, each with a pillion passenger, being driven
> next to one another, at speed, with all four people taking to each
> other. This is sheer lunacy.

Yes, absolutely, 100%, no argument. And every so often one of them pays with
his or her life. A senseless waste.

pen

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May 17, 2006, 4:35:57 PM5/17/06
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Ken wrote:
<snip>
> (who is DH?)

DH=dear husband - it's a girl thing....

Ken

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May 17, 2006, 5:32:00 PM5/17/06
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"pen" <pen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The male equivalent is to call " 'er indoors" SWMBO - She Who Must Be
Obeyed. Pronounced "swimbow"

K

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reboo...@gmail.com

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May 18, 2006, 2:50:07 AM5/18/06
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"spainish drivers seem a lot better"!!!! give it time and you will see
spanish drivers are not much better. In fact indicators are an optional
extra, on a whole spanish road sense is next to nothing.

People will just walk or pull out in front of you, i think this comes
down to the general lack of manner.

reboo...@gmail.com

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May 18, 2006, 3:01:02 AM5/18/06
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Ken the driving standard in Gibraltar is crap, the reasons i say this
is as follows.

1, People just stopping in the middle of the road to chat.
2, People not taking sticking to road signs.
3, Idiots (Gibraltar Chavs, "Vratha") who have not got the skill to
drive a Tonka Toy, never mind a BMW.
4, The easy driving test - i took mine here and to be honist it was
easy, it was just like going on a sunday drive.
5, General lack of dis-respect.

I must admin it is funny watching some tourist trying to do cluch
control.

pen

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May 18, 2006, 8:48:38 AM5/18/06
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Seen today at the Queensway/Reclamation Road lights. Lorry turning
south onto Queensway from Europort stops in mid turn. Chap dashes out
from car in queue northbound on Queensway, collects packet of
disposable cups from driver of lorry, and nips back into car. Lorry
continues on its way.
Bizarre.

pen

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May 18, 2006, 10:57:16 AM5/18/06
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And yet again at the Parcel Depot today:
1) Another scooter overtakes me on Line Wall Road whilst I'm stopped
and clearly indicating that I'm going to turn left.
2) A socking great bus is parked blocking the entrance. Meanwhile the
rest of the car park is completely empty. After much hooting the
driver runs out and shifts it forward 5 feet.
3) As I'm carefully reversing into one of the designated spaces, some
neanderthal screeches in and leaves his car parked at an angle just
outside the door WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING whilst he collects his post.

I'd nominate 50% of the driving population of Gib for ongoing Darwin
Awards if it wasn't for the fact that the traffic congestion is
sufficient to save most of them from death; though not, of course,
serious injury.

Still, I've got my next project worked out: "Pen's Believe it or Not
Book of Grotesque Gibraltarian Driving". Should be a Christmas
bestseller......

Jimbo.....

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May 18, 2006, 1:10:10 PM5/18/06
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> Still, I've got my next project worked out: "Pen's Believe it or Not
> Book of Grotesque Gibraltarian Driving". Should be a Christmas
> bestseller......
>

I don't know why you are complaining ...Toytown deserves Toytown
drivers........


Ken

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May 18, 2006, 1:52:43 PM5/18/06
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"pen" <pen...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It appears from all that is said is that etiquette is what is perceived
lacking, rather than lack of driving skill. They are two quite distinct
features.

The quality of the driving may be very high, but the behaviour of the
drivers may leave something to be desired.

On a similar vein, here in the UK this morning I was th victim of road
rage - from a cyclist. While in a slow-moving lane of traffic along a
suburban road, one lane each way, this cyclist was furious that he did not
have sufficient room between my car and the pavement (remembering here
driving is on the left) to let him pass. I was under the impression that
driving on the left as the UK does, the logical place to overtake wan on the
right.

Having waved his fists at me (and my having replied with a suitable gesture)
he rode his bicycle on the pavement (rather than overtake me on the correct
side) until clear of my vehicle. He then dropped on to the road once more,
getting to the front of a queue of traffic on their left and then jumping
the red light. Of course had he been in collision with a car which was
travelling through his green light, the cyclist would have claimed
"environmentalist supremacy" which apparently they see as a joker which lets
you off any misdemeanour.

Bad driving in Gib? Yes maybe - but don't go thinking it's the only place it
happens.

Jim Watt

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May 18, 2006, 2:45:51 PM5/18/06
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On Thu, 18 May 2006 18:52:43 +0100, "Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk>
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>The quality of the driving may be very high, but the behaviour of the
>drivers may leave something to be desired.

Indeed the drivers here are exceptionally good, it must require great
skill to drive a moped whilst texting on a mobile phone. The maneuver
being undertaken at some speed so did not get my camera out in
time.

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Ken

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May 19, 2006, 10:51:51 AM5/19/06
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<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 18 May 2006 18:52:43 +0100, "Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>Having waved his fists at me (and my having replied with a suitable
>>gesture)
>>he rode his bicycle on the pavement (rather than overtake me on the
>>correct
>>side) until clear of my vehicle. He then dropped on to the road once more,
>>getting to the front of a queue of traffic on their left and then jumping
>>the red light. Of course had he been in collision with a car which was
>>travelling through his green light, the cyclist would have claimed
>>"environmentalist supremacy" which apparently they see as a joker which
>>lets
>>you off any misdemeanour.
>
> So you wait until the traffic starts moving again and with luck you'll
> soon catch him up. Then, just as you're passing him, you give him a
> blast with the air-horns. With a bit of luck he'll wobble and fall
> off...
> This works particularly well, if you suddenly rev the engine just
> before hitting the switch.

THAT would be discouteous. Just because HE is a plonker does not mean I must
drag myself down to his level.

K

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