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Lynx

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Jul 29, 2005, 6:31:44 AM7/29/05
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Mr. Ken Westmoreland's accusations resonate like those of one who resides in
a glasshouse.


RockScorpion

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Jul 29, 2005, 12:54:48 PM7/29/05
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"Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote in message
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> Mr. Ken Westmoreland's accusations resonate like those of one who resides
> in a glasshouse.
>

Ahh, but he uses reinforced glass you see...

Personally I prefer shouting from the top of the Rock, harmless but it keeps
those bloody seagulls away...

Joe
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A man who lives in a glass house should change in the basement.


Jim Watt

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Jul 29, 2005, 3:05:24 PM7/29/05
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:31:44 GMT, "Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote:

>Mr. Ken Westmoreland's accusations resonate like those of one who resides in
>a glasshouse.

Ken is a loonie;

where and what are you referring to ??

--
Jim Watt
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Lynx

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Jul 29, 2005, 7:29:59 PM7/29/05
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"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:31:44 GMT, "Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote:
>
>>Mr. Ken Westmoreland's accusations resonate like those of one who resides
>>in
>>a glasshouse.
>
> Ken is a loonie;
>
> where and what are you referring to ??

It would be irrational to gauge and condemn from a different perspective.
For example. How could Mr Westmoreland ever perceive what might be felt by
the multitude who attend religious processions?


Lynx

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Jul 29, 2005, 7:33:13 PM7/29/05
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"RockScorpion" <area...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote in message
> news:kAnGe.66023$oJ.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> Mr. Ken Westmoreland's accusations resonate like those of one who resides
>> in a glasshouse.
>>
>
> Ahh, but he uses reinforced glass you see...
>
> Personally I prefer shouting from the top of the Rock, harmless but it
> keeps those bloody seagulls away...

Shouting, at no one, into the air, as singing to oneself, can be beneficial.
A pity that our advanced western culture looks down on individual
expression. The shower being humanities only escape into our instinctive
behaviour.


Jim Watt

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Jul 30, 2005, 3:09:58 AM7/30/05
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are you sure you are not training to be a politician ...

Lynx

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Jul 30, 2005, 7:04:47 AM7/30/05
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"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
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Have you not read his letter to Panorama? He makes reference to people going
over to Spain to attend processions, etc.


Jim Watt

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Jul 30, 2005, 12:25:44 PM7/30/05
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:04:47 GMT, "Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote:

>Have you not read his letter to Panorama? He makes reference to people going
>over to Spain to attend processions, etc.

Aha, I haven't been reading the letters in the local media
recently.

Looking at it, it would seem he is replying to Mr Sciacaluga's
rant.

Don't know where he gets the idea of people attending processions
in Spain from, I believe these things are a local affair for local
people only It was ground breaking that the ESG attended a
demo against the refinery in Spain recently, after being specifically
invited to do so by their Spanish counterparts.

I suspect that 'civil unions' would make a small number of
people locally very happy, and also provide work for lawyers
in the event that relationships fail. It will come whatever
religious nutters think. Indeed in his obsession with the evils
of anal sex, he neglects the number of women out there who
prefer each others company and are more likely and equipped
to engage in parentling than the guys.

Each to his own I say, or in some cases a friends or whatever
is at hand.

RockScorpion

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Jul 30, 2005, 7:29:12 PM7/30/05
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"Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote in message
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Even that option is not open to me, my shower has a little window that opens
to my blocks inner well, damn thing is like a megaphone. :(

On the other hand, this being summer and the weather being hot an'all, I
tried "expressing my individuality" whilst underwater, it seemed to work
except for a couple of startled rockfish and shocking the life out of a
passing herring, although a hermit crab did come out of it's shell for a
while...

Joe
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could potentially cause brain damage, however I think that fish crunchy bits
of salami my new red hippie noodle. Naked pool frogs?


Lynx

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Jul 30, 2005, 9:43:02 PM7/30/05
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"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
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When I read Mr Sciacaluga's letter, I must admit, I chuckled to myself. Not
so much because of the content of his letter, rather at the totally
'unexpected' mode expression. Surprised it got past the editor.
On the question of sexuality, there are people who lead their lives,
regardless of their 'preference' with total normality and dignity.
Discretion being the order of the day. While others take their greivances
onto the political platform. Not much is ever said about heterosexual
fathers, who find themselves divorced with limited and coditional access to
their kids. Denied all rights but given all the financial resposibilities
under the sun. There doesn't seem to be a 'political platform' for these
men. Perhaps if they sold their arses in a fashionable way they might be
given a better deal by society.


Lynx

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Jul 30, 2005, 9:50:27 PM7/30/05
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"RockScorpion" <area...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote in message
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>>
>> "RockScorpion" <area...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote in message
>>> news:kAnGe.66023$oJ.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> Mr. Ken Westmoreland's accusations resonate like those of one who
>>>> resides in a glasshouse.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ahh, but he uses reinforced glass you see...
>>>
>>> Personally I prefer shouting from the top of the Rock, harmless but it
>>> keeps those bloody seagulls away...
>>
>> Shouting, at no one, into the air, as singing to oneself, can be
>> beneficial. A pity that our advanced western culture looks down on
>> individual expression. The shower being humanities only escape into our
>> instinctive behaviour.
>>
>
> Even that option is not open to me, my shower has a little window that
> opens to my blocks inner well, damn thing is like a megaphone. :(
>
> On the other hand, this being summer and the weather being hot an'all, I
> tried "expressing my individuality" whilst underwater, it seemed to work
> except for a couple of startled rockfish and shocking the life out of a
> passing herring, although a hermit crab did come out of it's shell for a
> while...

You know, Gibraltar's like living in a holiday resort. Not only is
everything close by, but even the beaches are within walking distances.
Every city should be like Gibraltar. Things should be within a stroll, after
all, that's the reason we were givenlegs for, 'mobility'.
In these parts of the world, as in many others, everything is at best within
a short drive. Beaches, well, they're more than likely within 'a drive'.
In the colder climate countries it seems life was meant for working. While
in warmer countries, well, life was meant for living. If I were you, I'd
sing right through that bathroom window. Why, before long, you might even
have a new choir in your block!


Jim Watt

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Jul 31, 2005, 3:43:34 AM7/31/05
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 01:43:02 GMT, "Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote:

>When I read Mr Sciacaluga's letter, I must admit, I chuckled to myself. Not
>so much because of the content of his letter, rather at the totally
>'unexpected' mode expression. Surprised it got past the editor.
>On the question of sexuality, there are people who lead their lives,
>regardless of their 'preference' with total normality and dignity.
>Discretion being the order of the day. While others take their greivances
>onto the political platform. Not much is ever said about heterosexual
>fathers, who find themselves divorced with limited and coditional access to
>their kids. Denied all rights but given all the financial resposibilities
>under the sun. There doesn't seem to be a 'political platform' for these
>men. Perhaps if they sold their arses in a fashionable way they might be
>given a better deal by society.

JS has a long track record of letter writing praising the church
and attacking the sin of homosexuality etc He has also campaigned
for OAP's getting cheap access to things. I talked to him on the
phone once about a non related matter and he was very much
to the point and I admire him for getting off his arse and expressing
a view, even if its wrong.

On the other matter you raise, google on "fathers for justice" there
has been a clever publicity campaign on this issue in the UK with
'Batman' occupying the balcony at Buckingham Palace etc

I've seen something about a similar but low profile organisation
locally. Certainly the number of divorces has increased to the
European norm.

Reverting to the topic, I have a history of sending KW to hell in
the press over his proposals for using UK phone codes and
Gibraltar having a UK postal code. He also rewrote the
constitution and had a web site promoting integration
- a strange interest for someone domicliled in Croydon.

I see its lapsed and the domain is now promoting sex
sites of the anal kind :)

Given that many web forms insist on a post code it might
sometimes be handy to have one, however it sends the
wrong message politically. On telephone numbering
anything apart from recognition of our IDD code is not
acceptable to me although for cost and convenience
I have a acquired a UK 0870 number.

Lynx

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Jul 31, 2005, 9:45:10 AM7/31/05
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"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
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Indeed, JS doesn't mince his words. There's something to be said for being
straight forward, even when you're wrong. So long as you're prepared to
listen, I suppose.
On KW, I do remember his website. But when the Gib/South West campaign came
tolight I thought things had gone a bit far. I had some email exchanges with
KW. As gentlemen we kept it at a decnt level of 'we'll agree to disagree'.


RockScorpion

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Jul 31, 2005, 10:22:43 AM7/31/05
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"Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote in message
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Indeed,I think we sometimes take too much for granted around here, and
forget to appreciate just how lucky we are to live in Gib. All to often you
hear complaints that "There's nothing to do in Gib".

Yet when there was a closed frontier, which meant no escape to the fleshpots
of the costa del sol (not that I have any complaints about fleshpots <eg>),
there was always something to do, somewhere to hang out, and not enough
hours in the day to do them all.

Today's attitude is more "+you+ think of something for me to do, and if you
don't, it's +your+ fault I'm bored, not mine", Ah the joys of the consumer
society :(

Like you rightly say, everything in our little Gib is no more than a stroll
away, "the summer's long, and life is easy" (relatively), at least on the
weekends ;)

As for a new choir on the block,anything would be better than cacophony of
herring gulls that squat on the our roofs!

Joe
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