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Luke Croll

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Mar 20, 2005, 7:27:24 AM3/20/05
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What happens regarding passport renewal in Gibraltar? If you're an
expat living in Spain, is it possible to enter Gib to get your
passport renewed or must it be sent to Madrid?

Secondly, does anyone have a telephone number regarding jobs within
the Gibraltar Government or Governor's House, etc?

Thanks.
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Jim Watt

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Mar 20, 2005, 9:43:11 AM3/20/05
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 13:27:24 +0100, Luke Croll <Luke...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>What happens regarding passport renewal in Gibraltar?

Its done by the passport office.

>If you're an expat living in Spain, is it possible to enter Gib to get your
>passport renewed or must it be sent to Madrid?

No, they can only issue for residents of Gibraltar.

>Secondly, does anyone have a telephone number regarding jobs within
>the Gibraltar Government or Governor's House, etc?

Jobs in the Gibraltar Government are advertised in the local
newspapers if and when they come up

The 'Governors House' is staffed by the Foreign Office.

In both cases ex-pats living in Spain stand very little chance
- if you are looking for a job the internet gaming industry is
booming and has ongoing vacancies.
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Jim Watt
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Luke Croll

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Mar 21, 2005, 4:33:17 AM3/21/05
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:43:11 +0100, Jim Watt <jim...@aol.no_way>
wrote:

>Jobs in the Gibraltar Government are advertised in the local
>newspapers if and when they come up
>
>The 'Governors House' is staffed by the Foreign Office.
>
>In both cases ex-pats living in Spain stand very little chance
>- if you are looking for a job the internet gaming industry is
>booming and has ongoing vacancies.

Why would ex-pats in Spain stand little chance? Simply because there
is a high demand in Gibraltar or what? Not to malign the gaming
industry, but speaking as someone with two degrees from an English
university, I'm looking for a "good" job. I thought that something
within the Gibraltar government might be a good idea. Do you not think
it would work?

Jim Watt

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Mar 21, 2005, 4:51:35 AM3/21/05
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:33:17 +0100, Luke Croll <Luke...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:43:11 +0100, Jim Watt <jim...@aol.no_way>

They have a large surplus of Gibraltarian graduates looking for jobs
employing someone who lives in another country presents all sorts
of problems. I tried it once and would never repeat the process.

Apart from the Health Authority, which requires specialist skills
there is no point in employing foreigners when Government has
invested heavily in the education of locals.

Frontier workers consist of shop assistants and people in the
catering trade, and call centre enployees in the gaming industry.

Cybernest

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Mar 21, 2005, 6:18:54 AM3/21/05
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Luke

So far as the Passport is concerned, it's best to courier it to Madrid.

British Consulate General
Paseo de Recoletos 7-9, 4
28004 Madrid

Tel: 91 524 9700

You can get more info here:

http://www.ukinspain.com

That's the F & CO's or British Embassy's website for Spain.
I renewed my passport through them a couple of years ago at a cost of
82.00 Euros plus courier and it was pretty quick, a couple of weeks or
so, from memory.

Hope that helps!

Cybernest
Gibraltar News Online Blog:
http://www.gibraltarnewsonline.com

Luke Croll

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Mar 21, 2005, 8:28:33 AM3/21/05
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On 21 Mar 2005 03:18:54 -0800, "Cybernest" <cybe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>So far as the Passport is concerned, it's best to courier it to Madrid.

Yep, this is what I thought. However, we were speculating that it
might be possible to have it done in Gib, seeing as it is a British
territory. Obviously not. Thanks for the info nonetheless.

Daniel

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Mar 21, 2005, 3:31:46 PM3/21/05
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> Apart from the Health Authority, which requires specialist skills
> there is no point in employing foreigners when Government has
> invested heavily in the education of locals.

Hi,

In Spain, foreigners from European Union countries can become civil servants
in certain government sectors. I think this comes from European legislation
on the free circulation of workers. Isn't Gibraltar affected by this? Aren't
certain types of positions open to foreigners?

I think that for Spain the restriction is that positions which imply
defending the interest of the nation are not open for foreigners which
doesn't leave much but at least there is something.

Daniel


luc...@eternal-flames.gov

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Mar 22, 2005, 8:37:18 AM3/22/05
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:33:17 +0100, Luke Croll <Luke...@yahoo.com>,
Put down his pen after playing 'Spot the Ball' fastened his trousers
and wrote:

>Why would ex-pats in Spain stand little chance?

Many of the "ex-pats in Spain" seem to be there to avoid various
authorities back in the UK. You wouldn't want to inflict that
garbage on the Gib. authorities surely?


>but speaking as someone with two degrees from an English
>university, I'm looking for a "good" job.

Assuming they are from a good English uni. and are degrees worth
having, try UK Civil-service recruitment. But if you want a good
income, then forget (national) civil-service jobs anywhere and go into
business... Or jump on the EU gravy-train and get a job with
Brussels.

Nick.

Jim Watt

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Mar 22, 2005, 4:42:58 AM3/22/05
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:31:46 +0100, "Daniel" <dan...@wanadoo.es>
wrote:

>
>> Apart from the Health Authority, which requires specialist skills
>> there is no point in employing foreigners when Government has
>> invested heavily in the education of locals.
>
>Hi,
>
>In Spain, foreigners from European Union countries can become civil servants
>in certain government sectors. I think this comes from European legislation
>on the free circulation of workers. Isn't Gibraltar affected by this? Aren't
>certain types of positions open to foreigners?

I imagine they have to be resident in Spain though.

Positions are advertised in the newspapers and are open to
everyone, however in practice there are a large number of
young local graduates looking for jobs and they are likely
to get whatever is going in the civil service.

They also have the advantage that they are likely to provide
continuity, understand local people, and are not stressed by
having to cross a frontier twice daily with all the hassle that
entails.

>I think that for Spain the restriction is that positions which imply
>defending the interest of the nation are not open for foreigners which
>doesn't leave much but at least there is something.

Gibraltar, is after all, a territory with a population of 30,000
people, so the scope for employment is rather less than in Spain !

In the MoD for instance they have areas here where its UK nationals
only, no Gibraltarians allowed.

kle...@gmail.com

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Apr 4, 2005, 1:42:18 PM4/4/05
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Luke Croll wrote:
> What happens regarding passport renewal in Gibraltar? If you're an
> expat living in Spain, is it possible to enter Gib to get your
> passport renewed or must it be sent to Madrid?
>

Dont bother getting it done in Gibraltar, theyguys and Gals behind the
counter dont even know whats needed when someone changes their name.
(or in my friends case they dont, they try and tell you that a document
that was produced by a local lawer is wrong, only when they bother to
check with the gibraltar law books is found out that the said document
is right).

Jim Watt

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Apr 4, 2005, 4:16:37 PM4/4/05
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On 4 Apr 2005 10:42:18 -0700, kle...@gmail.com wrote:

>Luke Croll wrote:
>> What happens regarding passport renewal in Gibraltar? If you're an
>> expat living in Spain, is it possible to enter Gib to get your
>> passport renewed or must it be sent to Madrid?
>>
>
>Dont bother getting it done in Gibraltar

Are you stupid or something? we already explained that you
can't, so your silly stories are obviously made up.

kle...@gmail.com

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Apr 5, 2005, 4:32:22 AM4/5/05
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> Are you stupid or something?

Jim, pleae watch who you are calling stupid, after all i´m not the one
who walks around Gib looking like an old tramp, with a hair-do looking
like i got a nest of crows in there. Also on the subject of your dress
sence get some new trousers that fit you.

not only are you stupid but you also look stupid. mybe we could market
you as a thing the tourists could see (Come to Gib and see the rock,
apes and oh yes our lastest feature Jim Watt gibs very own down and
out.

we already explained that you
> can't, so your silly stories are obviously made up.

Made up! and how the hell would you know? it took somebody who knows
about legal documents to have to go there and have a word with them as.

A, they said that a passport issued in gib is not a uk passport even
though it says the uk on the cover.

B, when a photocopy of a birth cert is attatched to the legal document
and is signed by both the lawer and a comm
issioner for oaths it is admitted as evidence (under uk and gibraltar
law).

But according to the Passport office it is not (thats untill they look
at the law books and they find out that is ok).

So jim do me a favor before you go calling people names just stop and
think about it, because you never know who can bump into in gib and
lets face it with a dress sence like yours your not that easy to miss.

Get a life you sad old weirdo.

Kl

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Jim Watt

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Apr 5, 2005, 2:27:16 PM4/5/05
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On 5 Apr 2005 10:18:40 -0700, "Steve" <st...@gibraltarian.net> wrote:

>The only problem i have had is them not taking switch master or visa.

Govrnment departments do not take plastic, last time I looked
Barclays wanted 5% on credit card transactions plus a montly
rental on the machine, plus its a phone call for rach authorisation

Ken

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Apr 5, 2005, 3:26:29 PM4/5/05
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"Steve" <st...@gibraltarian.net> wrote in message
news:1112721520.5...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

> The only problem i have had is them not taking switch master or visa.
>
> When i first came here in 2001 i when to renew my civil id card, but
> because i was only working 32 hours a week and not 37.5 they would not
> renew it. Even though i had a res permit for 5 years that ws still
> valid for 3 more years.

OK, let's compare - after all we are often shown the UK equivalen for
comparison. The UK Passport agency does not take Visa or or Switch either.
Also, if you happen to be German living in the UK for 5 years and working
32 - 37.5 hrs/week, you will find the UKPA will not reissue your passport
either. You will be referred to the German embassy.

Spot the similarity?

Ken


Luke Croll

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Apr 6, 2005, 7:33:40 AM4/6/05
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 20:27:16 +0200, Jim Watt <jim...@aol.no_way>
wrote:

Wow, that's a lot of commission. I guess that's why most of the shops
in the Main Street charge a fee for using your card. Is the commission
that high in England too or is this a special rate for Gib?

Jim Watt

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Apr 6, 2005, 1:00:44 PM4/6/05
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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:33:40 +0200, Luke Croll <Luke...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

UK merchants were typically paying 1.5 % to 2% - its not unusual
for them to apply a credit card surcharge if the margins are small

There is also the machine rental to take into consideration

In the case of a supermarket where the function is integrated into
the till, and the authorisations are done online without the need
for a dial up call per transaction and you can bet Morrisons have
negotiated a good rate, cards become cheaper than handling and
banking cash or cheques, which is why they are keen to do cashback
services on debit cards where there is no percentage handling charge

Also in Gibraltar plastic has not been aggressivly promoted as it has
in the UK so many people do not have a credit card, or even a debit
card. When I opened my Natwest account they told me I could only
have a debit card after six months, and they said I could not have a
credit card at all.

Barclays still issue their 'gibcard' which is a bit of a joke and none
of them want to issue cards on company accounts.

AND we are supposed to be a banking paradise.

jim.gm4dhj

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Apr 9, 2005, 2:03:48 AM4/9/05
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> Govrnment departments do not take plastic, last time I looked
> Barclays wanted 5% on credit card transactions plus a montly
> rental on the machine, plus its a phone call for rach authorisation
>
> --
> Jim Watt

Thank goodness for credit card cheques.......


jim.gm4dhj

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Apr 9, 2005, 2:07:19 AM4/9/05
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> Also in Gibraltar plastic has not been aggressivly promoted as it has
> in the UK so many people do not have a credit card, or even a debit
> card. When I opened my Natwest account they told me I could only
> have a debit card after six months, and they said I could not have a
> credit card at all.
>
> Barclays still issue their 'gibcard' which is a bit of a joke and none
> of them want to issue cards on company accounts.
>
> AND we are supposed to be a banking paradise.
> --
> Jim Watt

Stop running the place down ! you will have JW after you next...I would love
to be denied a credit card.....all mine are on 0% and cut up......


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