Llanitos
Minuesa
este tan enraizado y tan patente. Ni siquiera en la misma Inglaterra si
se celebrara un referéndum sobre pertenecer a la soberania española,
se obtendría un resultado en contra tan elevado (mas del 99%).
Y resulta cuanto menos chocante esa actitud, si tenemos en cuenta como
son tratados como ciudadanos de tercera los gibraltareños por parte de
su poder colonial.
http://rafaminu.blogspot.com/2004_08_01_rafaminu_archive.html
darius
Sorry, this is an english language newsgroup. I've tried to run what
you've said through a web based translator, but the spanish used wasn't
simplistic enough for any meaning to be clear.
Since you appear (in the blog post you link to) to be talking about a
job in Gibraltar, perhaps you could repost in english if you want
everyone to understand you?
Minuesa
I didn't realize that you Llanitos could not understand Spanish.
The question is: How do you manage not to understand a language that is
spoken by EVERYBODY both in Gibraltar and everywhere else around?
It must be quite a feat.
Or is it that your simplistic mind can only understand simplistic
concepts of the kind "I'm british (at least that's what I've been told)
so there's no need for me to learn any other of those worthless,
simplistic languages"?
Jim Watt
>Oh my God, I'm so sorry.
>I didn't realize that you Llanitos could not understand Spanish.
The polite thing to do before posting to a newsgroup is to read
some of the history of it.
If you did that you might find that the majority of postings are in
English. and that the Spanish posters tend to be time wasters
looking for a fight.
If you identify with the latter, just remember we have heard it
all before, its very tedious and at the end of the day Gibraltar
is not part of Spain and its not going to be in the forseeable
future.
Indeed it has only been recently that I have seen any advantage
at all in Spanish nationality, and if I worked for Natwest Bank in the
UK I would consider it.
Jim Watt
--
El concepto de 'Gibraltar es Espanol' es antiquado y uno que ya no
tiene sentido en una epoca moderna. Alt.gibraltar es un newsgroup
dedicado a el argumento inteligente y considerado sobre el presente
y futuro de Gibraltar y de sus inhabitantes NO al argumento, ya
perdido, de fascistas.
Yadda Yadda
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:37:23 GMT, "El Cortés" <Cor...@nospam.com>
wrote:
>Y como estoy casi seguro que el señorito Jim Watts entiende inglés, y nada
>más,
When posting to alt.gibraltar please do so in ENGLISH as that is
the official language of Gibraltar.
Please do not cross post messages with Spanish language groups.
=========================================================
You clearly know nothing about Gibraltar and should keep your
ill informed nonsense to yourself.
---
Jim Watt "7th November 2002 in a referendum 99% of Gibraltar
http://www.gibnet.com said no to Spain, and no means NO"
Strange that Jim's own rules don't apply to him.
He's just posted in Spanish and German in the last couple of weeks, what a
hypocrite!
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Jim Watt
wrote:
<snip>
FOAD
Now guess what language that is.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com
Minuesa
and Duty or FOADas in Freak Off And Die (polite form).
I am afraid it must be the last one.
Comm'n Jim, you're constantly trying to give unsolicited lessons about
"The polite thing to do", and now that you don't have an argument, you
come out with such a disgraceful comment?.
That's not very nice, you know, neither is polite.
By the way, "el argumento inteligente" you talk about in your motto, is
rather "la discusión inteligente". In Spanish people discuss, not
argue (yeah, i know, tells a lot about the prevailing culture, doesn't
it?). And antiquado is with "c" not "q". Also, take off the in from
in-habitantes, and you'll have something close to what can be
understood by almost any spanish-speaking person.
But by now I'm not sure whether you want to be understood having so few
arguments?
darius
Minuesa wrote:
> Oh my God, I'm so sorry.
> I didn't realize that you Llanitos could not understand Spanish.
> The question is: How do you manage not to understand a language that is
> spoken by EVERYBODY both in Gibraltar and everywhere else around?
> It must be quite a feat.
> Or is it that your simplistic mind can only understand simplistic
> concepts of the kind "I'm british (at least that's what I've been told)
> so there's no need for me to learn any other of those worthless,
> simplistic languages"?
While I wasn't born in Gibraltar (I was actually born in Scotland),
I have lived here (in Gib) since I was 4 years old.
I went to school here.
I shop here.
I work here.
I live here.
And I have never needed to speak spanish.
Englsh is the offical language in Gibraltar, the laws of gibraltar are
in english, signs are in english, any important saftey announcement
will be given in english.
BUT LET ME STRESS:
I've got nothing against the spanish language, it is nice to know any
language of your immediate neighbours.
Personally I'm not a linguist. - I wish I was, there are many languages
I would love to speak.
HOWEVER that doesn't change the fact that I've lived in gibraltar since
I was 4, and have never encountered a language problem.
Yadda Yadda
English isn't the official language in Gibraltar, there is no 'official
language' under English law
>the laws of gibraltar are
> in english,
And in Norman French, (Dieu et Mon Droit)
>signs are in english,
Not all of them, some official signs are in Spanish as well.
Jim Watt
>That's not very nice, you know, neither is polite
neither is trolling and I smell a troll.
Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com
"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because
they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous
sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time."
... Neil Stephenson, Cryptonomicon
darius
Yadda Yadda wrote:
> > Englsh is the offical language in Gibraltar
>
> English isn't the official language in Gibraltar, there is no 'official
> language' under English law
>
> >the laws of gibraltar are
> > in english,
>
> And in Norman French, (Dieu et Mon Droit)
Do you have a percentage for the Norman French?
And for the Latin?
Being SENSIBLE now, essentially all legislation is in English, almost
all legal business worldwide contains dashings of the above. But
anyway, all offical governmental and judicial business is conducted in
English.
If you have a better definition of 'official language', I'd like to
here it.
i.e. other than the language that is used in all offical business.
The language used in ALL official bussiness AND available for use in
day-to-day matters can, I think, safely be said to the 'official
language'.
> >signs are in english,
>
> Not all of them, some official signs are in Spanish as well.
Yes, because Gibraltar provides employment to many spanish residents.
Also because we welcome visitors from Spain (and from elsewhere)
sensibly signs are provided in other languages.
Since spain is the nearist neighbour, and therefore the easiest place
to vist Gibraltar from, there is a high level of second language
spanish signs. But you will also find signs written in French and
Arabic, etc.
To propse that signs being available in multiple langauges does
anything more the confirm Gibraltar's geographic cross-roads location
and it's welcoming of visitors is crazy.
You certainly could not make a case for any language other than english
being the 'official language' in gibraltar.
Jim Watt
wrote:
<snip>
Minuesa = Yadda Yadda = Yet another troll
This thread is a wind-up.
Yadda Yadda
English, Norman French, Spanish, Arabic or otherwise.
darius
Yadda Yadda wrote:
> Gibraltar does not have an 'official' language, pure and simple.
That's Bollocks/Crap/Rubbish.
I refer you to my answer above.
Yadda Yadda
well known fact in legal circles.
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Jim Watt
wrote:
>Under English law there is no official language, it is actually a fairly
>well known fact in legal circles.
And you are a troll, thats well known too.
Yadda Yadda
me.
This is about 'proving the positive', it has been said that the 'official
language' of Gibraltar is English, it is not. Under English law there is no
such thing as an 'offiical language'. Gibraltar is British and bound by
English law, show me proof under English law of an 'official language'.
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