Only VOX
Lynx
Article heading reads: VOX Polls Still Bloody Caruana's Nose.
At the bottom of the snippet it reads: 'Read the rest of the article in
today's edition of VOX'.
Ole, VOX!!
Jim Watt
Vox have the hump as they are no longer getting any
money from the Government.
Their 'poll' was totally slanted as some of the
questions were of the type 'have you stopped
beating your wife ?'
IE they asked if you approved or dissproved of something
that was not true. The format of the poll did not
allow skipping questions.
Read what the Government said about it in advance:
http://www.gibnews.net/cgi-bin/gn_view.pl/?GOGX061120_5.xml
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 08:23:46 GMT, "Lynx" <M...@Home.com> wrote:
>
>>On VOX's newspaper website today, 24Nov'06
>>Article heading reads: VOX Polls Still Bloody Caruana's Nose.
>>At the bottom of the snippet it reads: 'Read the rest of the article in
>>today's edition of VOX'.
>>Ole, VOX!!
>
> Vox have the hump as they are no longer getting any
> money from the Government.
>
> Their 'poll' was totally slanted as some of the
> questions were of the type 'have you stopped
> beating your wife ?'
>
> IE they asked if you approved or dissproved of something
> that was not true. The format of the poll did not
> allow skipping questions.
>
> Read what the Government said about it in advance:
Got it. Polls' outcome ought not to be trusted. They're usually biased,
asking leading questions and selecting those polled, pretty much
determining the outcome. There's only one poll and that's at the ballot box.
Jim Watt
Very true, theres another poll in the weekly
newspaper 7 days which says something quite
different and thats as honest as the day is long
(here not oz)
Ken
"Lynx" <M...@Home.com> wrote in message
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Very true. It seems also that though Vox professes independence on its title
bar, they are far from unbiased. They may be financially independent, but
they have political bias.
K
Ken
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
I found it at http://www.7daysgibraltar.com
Curious. It seems to be an organ of the GSD - the party of Govt at the
present time - yet is published by Publicaciones del Sur. Also odd is that
it has an English section and a Sp section - yet these are quite different
articles rather than translations of the same.
K
Ken
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
This 7 days paper - heard of it before. Any URL where it can be read?
How many papers and news outlets can a place like Gib keep viable?
When is El Calpense coming back?
K
Jim Watt
wrote:
>> Very true, theres another poll in the weekly
>> newspaper 7 days which says something quite
>> different and thats as honest as the day is long
>> (here not oz)
>
>I found it at http://www.7daysgibraltar.com
>Curious. It seems to be an organ of the GSD
a reproductive one :)
I suspect it took over from the free Spanish language
newspaper 'el faro' and is printed by them.
Lynx
"Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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snip
>> Got it. Polls' outcome ought not to be trusted. They're usually biased,
>> asking leading questions and selecting those polled, pretty much
>> determining the outcome. There's only one poll and that's at the ballot
>> box.
>
> Very true. It seems also that though Vox professes independence on its
> title bar, they are far from unbiased. They may be financially
> independent, but they have political bias.
If that's the case, they need real help!
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
It'd be the same here and wherever there's a democracy to be honed! :)
Lynx
snip
>>>Got it. Polls' outcome ought not to be trusted. They're usually biased,
>>>asking leading questions and selecting those polled, pretty much
>>>determining the outcome. There's only one poll and that's at the ballot
>>>box.
>>
>> Very true, theres another poll in the weekly
>> newspaper 7 days which says something quite
>> different and thats as honest as the day is long
>> (here not oz)
>
> This 7 days paper - heard of it before. Any URL where it can be read?
> How many papers and news outlets can a place like Gib keep viable?
> When is El Calpense coming back?
So when is Calpense coming back then? And why did it disappear in the first
place? Not that I was ever much of a reader, too young then. But El Calpense
was an old and established Gib paper. Nothing like the buoyant Panorama! :)
Lynx
It is often said in this forum that nothing much ever happens in sleepy Gib.
It may well be true, yet, I'm amazed at the number of publications in the
place. Looks like there's time for everything, or else, too much at stake
and too many wanting to have their say!
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
Is that Spanish, as in language, or Spanish as in owned?
Jim Watt
Both
It was part of the group
http://www.publicacionesdelsur.net
It ran for a year or two as a weekly, did not
attract any advertisising and seems to have folded
a cynical reader might believe it was bankrolled
by the MAE to produce good basic intelligence about
Gibraltar, as they covered news and did in depth
interviews with anyone of consequence.
Of course it could simply have been a commercial
exercise which failed.
Their reporting was generally factual, but in a
dispute between Caruana and the Spanish police they
followed the police story, which was not credible.
However, it was a free newspaper without much
advertising so someone was paying for it and it was
not anyone here.
Jim Watt
>> Very true, theres another poll in the weekly
>> newspaper 7 days which says something quite
>> different and thats as honest as the day is long
>> (here not oz)
>
>It'd be the same here and wherever there's a democracy to be honed! :)
I was thinking of larger things, indeed astronomical ones.
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
Hmmm.... Think we're on different tracks...
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 00:00:42 GMT, "Lynx" <M...@Home.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
>>news:rdqem2lg3hso4jrq3...@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:47:04 -0000, "Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Very true, theres another poll in the weekly
>>>>> newspaper 7 days which says something quite
>>>>> different and thats as honest as the day is long
>>>>> (here not oz)
>>>>
>>>>I found it at http://www.7daysgibraltar.com
>>>
>>>>Curious. It seems to be an organ of the GSD
>>>
>>> a reproductive one :)
>>>
>>> I suspect it took over from the free Spanish language
>>> newspaper 'el faro' and is printed by them.
>>
>>Is that Spanish, as in language, or Spanish as in owned?
>
> Both
>
> It was part of the group
>
> http://www.publicacionesdelsur.net
>
> It ran for a year or two as a weekly, did not
> attract any advertisising and seems to have folded
> a cynical reader might believe it was bankrolled
> by the MAE to produce good basic intelligence about
> Gibraltar, as they covered news and did in depth
> interviews with anyone of consequence.
Gib's pretty transparent, especially when it comes to its political policies
and its public figures.
> Of course it could simply have been a commercial
> exercise which failed.
>
> Their reporting was generally factual, but in a
> dispute between Caruana and the Spanish police they
> followed the police story, which was not credible.
>
> However, it was a free newspaper without much
> advertising so someone was paying for it and it was
> not anyone here.
How can that be? Any registered publication must have a registered owner.
You cannot have a publication, especially a free one, delving in politics,
etc. without a responsible body behind it. At least an editor, surely!
Ken
"Lynx" <M...@Home.com> wrote in message
They wuold not be the first newspaper anywhere to align itself with one or
other political ideology. The matter is that (IMHO) they are firmly in the
Gib opposition camp yet profess to be independent. OK they may be
financially independent, but their anti-GSD position is clear, if nothing
else in the manner in which they word their opinion polls so that the GSD
can oonly lose whatever the result!
K
Ken
"Lynx" <M...@Home.com> wrote in message
Well a colleague at work was a bit dismissive of the Gib Chronicle when it
came up on a PC screen I was at during a lull in activity at midday.
Comments such as what could ever happen i such a small place that could
possibly merit a weekly, let alone a daily. Do I asked her to read the
headlines to each story, and she had to eat her words. I reminded her that
this was a territory of 3 sq miles and of 30,000 people and challenged her
to find a town anywher with such prominence or with so much interest shed
upon it by others.
Where else would you find the elected representatives of such a small place
directly representing themselves at the UN, having 3-way discussions of an
international nature with two othe govts., sorting out their own issues of
health entirely, passing legislation regarding international shipping
registers and standards of operation etc etc.
As ever, puching way above its weight and holding fast against on the face
of it insurmountible odds.
K
Lynx
I find it interesting that a newspaper should pretend to be what it's not.
In these parts newspapers are known for the camp they're in. And it's no big
deal. Having said that, one prominent newspaper, which has a very slight
leftwing inclination, happens to be the one with, not only, the best news
coverage but also carries the most in-depth intelectual content of all!
Lynx
snip
>> It is often said in this forum that nothing much ever happens in sleepy
>> Gib. It may well be true, yet, I'm amazed at the number of publications
>> in the place. Looks like there's time for everything, or else, too much
>> at stake and too many wanting to have their say!
>
> Well a colleague at work was a bit dismissive of the Gib Chronicle when it
> came up on a PC screen I was at during a lull in activity at midday.
> Comments such as what could ever happen i such a small place that could
> possibly merit a weekly, let alone a daily. Do I asked her to read the
> headlines to each story, and she had to eat her words. I reminded her that
> this was a territory of 3 sq miles and of 30,000 people and challenged her
> to find a town anywher with such prominence or with so much interest shed
> upon it by others.
I can understand people who may know next to nothing about Gib, to make such
remarks. I remind you, unlike our school curriculum, where we had to study
all about the then Commonwealth, very little was ever disseminated about Gib
in other Comm. member countries. Hence the abundance of ignorance about the
place and its people these days in English-speaking countries.
> Where else would you find the elected representatives of such a small
> place directly representing themselves at the UN, having 3-way discussions
> of an international nature with two othe govts., sorting out their own
> issues of health entirely, passing legislation regarding international
> shipping registers and standards of operation etc etc.
True
> As ever, puching way above its weight and holding fast against on the face
> of it insurmountible odds.
True again. Yet, I reckon the cake's only halve-baked.