The New St Bernard's is just as bad as every other Caruana government department.
Steve
night because of an ongoing medical condition.
Here's the story.
Last night she was given here meal at 5.30 at around 5.40 somebody came
around to collect the plate, because we all slow down as we get older
of course she had not finished. 10 minute later another person came
round to collect the plate.
So the staff think an 89 year old women who has just suffered a stroke
can eat a 3 course meal in 20 minutes.
Because she had suffered a stroke she has been taking warfarin to
reduce the risk of a blood clot in the brain. This has to be taken
every day after 6pm without fail.
At around 6.10 a nurse popped into the ward and said hello, had a quick
chat & turned around a walked out, At this point she had finished the
meal.
My partner left her grandmothers ward to come home around 7.15, since
her granny had not been given her medication she queried this with one
of the nurses. After waiting around while the nurse was having a
private phone call, she was then told by the nurse who had popped in
for a chat "Oh I forgot to check the card what with talking to you
both".
This lunchtime.
My partners mother went across to feed granny her lunch imagine what
she though when she found a try and dirty dishes, the very same dirty
dishes that they was so eager to get the night before.
round that time they were handing out lunch when they got to granny
they though that she had already eaten it was only when they were told
that this was from last night that they gave her something to eat. If
my partner's mother had not been there then she would not have eaten.
This evening my partners mother went back across to feed granny, only
to find granny has fallen and was on the floor who knows how long she
had been there for.
This story is not made up in any way at all and shows the total
incompetence of some of the staff. This incompetence is not just within
the GHA but in all government departments, this includes the very top.
This is only one of many cases of the GHA doing what they do best.
Cocking thing up.
It's ok spending £55,000,000 on a new hospital, but as long as you
have people running and working there who are lazy and not interested
in doing a proper job then £55,000,000 is a lot of money to spend.
Why has it also taken them 6 months to tell someone that they have
angina when the people who did the scan in Spain( Because our brand new
scanner in Gibraltar is not working, just like the new digital x-ray
system) told the person "if we find anything, the GHA will let you
know right away"
The minister for health should sort these problems out or he should be
sacked.
Post office savings account
According to the post office a Childs savings account is only valid to
the age of seven. At this point the the child is classed as an adult
and the account has to be converted, not only this but the child has to
sign for any withdrawals. Even though the account has been opened by
somebody on behalf of that child and the child has no idea of the
account. This is ok, but why has it taken 7 years for the post office
to say to the adult who has opened the account and has been withdrawing
money for the child "sorry you cannot sign, the child has to sign".
ID Cards
Why when you go to get a new ID card do you have to go twice because
the information they gave you the first time is wrong. If they don't
know the job then maybe they should not be doing it.
Remember that one Government department (the post office saving bank)
say that a child over 7 has to sign to withdraw money, how come a child
who is 14 cannot sign his own id card when he has to sign he own
passport.
PAYE
How come a person who works for an employer has to fill out his own tax
return? In the UK and I bet in most western European countries this is
automatically done. No wonder it takes 4 years to get a tax return.
Low cost housing
What happening to the new housing project next to the old MOT testing
centre? Ok the work started and then it stopped. I bet it will stay
like this until one year before the next election.
I voted the GSD last time, but I will never vote for them again. And I
think a lot of people feel the same way. This government is not
interested in the small person or the day to day running of Gibraltar.
What good is it having tripartite Talks if only after the 2nd meeting
Spain would not come to Gibraltar? Instead of the CM saying "you come
to Gib for the talks or there are no talks" what does he do, agrees
to go to Faro.
Steve
Lynx
"Steve" <st...@gibraltarian.net> wrote in message
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It's ok spending £55,000,000 on a new hospital, but as long as you
have people running and working there who are lazy and not interested
in doing a proper job then £55,000,000 is a lot of money to spend.
Why has it also taken them 6 months to tell someone that they have
angina when the people who did the scan in Spain( Because our brand new
scanner in Gibraltar is not working, just like the new digital x-ray
system) told the person "if we find anything, the GHA will let you
know right away"
The story you tell is a very sad story. What makes it worse is that it's all
believable.
Dear, dear oh dear. And to think I was told only a day ago, by someone who's
suppose to know about these things, that gibraltarian patients no longer
have a need of going to Spain as these equipments in Gib are up and running.
I'd like to know whether the torn and well used-up bed sheets are still
being used on patients beds. And are the orderlies still hovering around
with hair down to their waste, wearing earrings and looking like something
out of the pirates of Penzance?
The rest of your account reads like something coming out of a feudal system.
Where there's no accountability and the big knob does as he pleases.
jim.gm4dhj
"Steve" <st...@gibraltarian.net> wrote in message
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Here's the story.
This lunchtime.
Post office savings account
ID Cards
PAYE
Low cost housing
Steve
...a few issues there...and according to JW the place is fantastic.
Lynx
"jim.gm4dhj" <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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You wonder whose payroll JW's on
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:51:07 GMT, "jim.gm4dhj"
> <jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>...a few issues there...and according to JW the place is fantastic.
>
>
> when I was ill they wisked me up to hospital and saved my life - the
> food was excellent. The ward was a bit tacky, although I got a
> private room which was better and the new hospital is really nice.
>
> My ID cards were issued without any problems, and unlike the proposed
> UK one, they are free of charge and allow travel around Europe.
>
> I bought low cost housing and its market value is now three times the
> original cost.
>
> I even opened a savings account at the post office with a lot less
> fuss than a bank account, but not being under seven i can't comment on
> that aspect, but if I were a seven year old I'd appreciate control of
> my money. If its a kids savings account the parent should not want
> to take money out;
>
> I thought Glasgow as a better place to live I'd go live there.
>
> Its not.
>
> As for Mr Caruana, he should be congratulated at finally getting
> everyone round a table where the Government of Gibraltar has an equal
> footing to the other two.
>
> Those who feel that talks should have taken place in Gibraltar are
> largely missing the point, however Steve if you feel strongly about it
> you could have gone on the VOGG bus and protested with them. But is
> so much easier to whinge on the Internet than do something.
>
> You could always stand for election.
Looks like each recounts the story according to their own experience.
Jim Watt
<jim.g...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>...a few issues there...and according to JW the place is fantastic.
Generally it is.
when I was ill they wisked me up to hospital and saved my life - the
food was excellent. The ward was a bit tacky, although I got a
private room which was better and the new hospital is really nice.
My ID cards were issued without any problems, and unlike the proposed
UK one, they are free of charge and allow travel around Europe.
I bought low cost housing and its market value is now three times the
original cost.
I even opened a savings account at the post office with a lot less
fuss than a bank account, but not being under seven i can't comment on
that aspect, but if I were a seven year old I'd appreciate control of
my money. If its a kids savings account the parent should not want
to take money out;
I thought Glasgow as a better place to live I'd go live there.
Its not.
As for Mr Caruana, he should be congratulated at finally getting
everyone round a table where the Government of Gibraltar has an equal
footing to the other two.
Those who feel that talks should have taken place in Gibraltar are
largely missing the point, however Steve if you feel strongly about it
you could have gone on the VOGG bus and protested with them. But is
so much easier to whinge on the Internet than do something.
You could always stand for election.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com
Ken
"Steve" <st...@gibraltarian.net> wrote in message
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If you don't like the conditions, you don't have to open an account
> ID Cards
When you fly in an aeroplane you re an adult (for price purposes) at 12.
However you do not have a duty free allowance until 18, but you can marry
and join the armed forces at 16. In the US you cannot drink until you;re 21,
but in some states a 12 year old can have an automatic weapons licence.
> PAYE
In the UK where I live, though an employee, I too ahve to fill in my own tax
return form.
> Low cost housing
How about it? Many people have managed to get their foot on the property
ladder because of it. You should compare the position in Gib with what is
happening in many small towns and villages in the UK, where rich folk come
in and buy up all the property for holiday homes. Prices go up, and no local
can afford to stay local any more. There are very few schemes anywhere which
allow local people anywhere but into rental.
K
DCC
Here the vast majority (70%) live in their own flats built by the Government
(www.hdb.gov.sg) Most of the balance 30% own private property. A tiny
percentage live in rented accommodation.
Thankfully, the days of silly property price increases have long gone here.
The drop in prices since the late 90's has been cushioned by the
Government's use of land release in a way to control supply and demand.
What we see in Gib today is dangerous. Besides, it's such a bore to here
people just talk and talk about how much more their property is worth. Go to
HK and see how many got their fingers burnt when the bubble burst.
"Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Lynx
The prime property, one's place of residence, is of little value, as when
selling you're back in the same market looking to buy. But in Gib, with the
exception of what the invading forces handed out willy-nilly to
who-knows-who, the rest are tenants and lease holders.
"DCC" <m...@home.com> wrote in message
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steve
Ken wrote:
> "Steve" <st...@gibraltarian.net> wrote in message
> news:1121287702.3...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Post office savings account
>
> If you don't like the conditions, you don't have to open an account
You have missed the point OM, Why has it taken them 7 years to tell us.
after countless transactions that have been accepted which acording to
them that they should not of.
> > ID Cards
>
> When you fly in an aeroplane you re an adult (for price purposes) at 12.
> However you do not have a duty free allowance until 18, but you can marry
> and join the armed forces at 16. In the US you cannot drink until you;re 21,
> but in some states a 12 year old can have an automatic weapons licence.
That does not tell me why people who have been doing the job for years
still cant get it right. Is it lack of intelligence or just not wanting
to it?
If it is the latter then im sorry but they should not be doing to job.
>
> > PAYE
>
> In the UK where I live, though an employee, I too ahve to fill in my own tax
> return form.
That´s funny in the uk I cant recall doing that!
> > Low cost housing
>
> How about it? Many people have managed to get their foot on the property
> ladder because of it.
Really, a lot of young couples have had to go and live in la linea.
You should compare the position in Gib with what is
> happening in many small towns and villages in the UK, where rich folk come
> in and buy up all the property for holiday homes.
I know gibraltar is small, but you can´t compare it with a small town
or village.
Time and time again this goverment has sold of every last bit of land
to someone to build high cost housing.
Prices go up, and no local
> can afford to stay local any more. There are very few schemes anywhere which
> allow local people anywhere but into rental.
>
> K
Really, a lot of Gibraltarian couples have had to go and live in la
linea. because they dont want live at home with their parents.
Steve
Jim Watt
>You wonder whose payroll JW's on
there is a quick answer to that ... mine
Jim Watt
>Looks like each recounts the story according to their own experience.
And as far as I can tell my glass is full enough.
If it was not, there are other alehouses.
Jim Watt
>. But in Gib, with the
>exception of what the invading forces handed out willy-nilly to
>who-knows-who, the rest are tenants and lease holders.
1. Since the days of Sir Joshua, all MoD property surplus to
their actual requirments has been turned over to local Government
at no cost.
2. lets not do the reasons for leashold property AGAIN
Jim Watt
wrote:
>Really, a lot of Gibraltarian couples have had to go and live in la
>linea. because they dont want live at home with their parents.
its a free country and their choice.
As regards the department that deals with ID cards, apart
from having to queue up, the service I got was excellent.
I know someone who had his passport eaten by the dog
the day before he was flying to the US and they issued
a new one on the spot. Try doing that in the UK.
As regards changes in tax assessment in the UK you
seem to have missed all the advertisments about it on
the television. I believe you can even fill in the forms
online now. This years Gibraltar one seems to be the
first redesign for many years.
As regards the hospital, if ypu give people resources and a
nice environment to work in they generally respond well,
Government has done that and invested in a study to improve
work practices any further suggestions on what they can do?
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:17:11 GMT, "Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote:
>
>>You wonder whose payroll JW's on
>
> there is a quick answer to that ... mine
Oh well, less tax money for the caciques.....
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:27:36 GMT, "Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote:
>
>>Looks like each recounts the story according to their own experience.
>
> And as far as I can tell my glass is full enough.
>
> If it was not, there are other alehouses.
Is ale still consumed warm, fermenting, in the UK? And while we're on the
piddle, is there an orderly waiting hospital list in Gib? Or are in-patients
accepted as their medical needs arise?
Steve
Jim Watt wrote:
> On 14 Jul 2005 00:12:17 -0700, "steve" <stevemc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Really, a lot of Gibraltarian couples have had to go and live in la
> >linea. because they dont want live at home with their parents.
>
> its a free country and their choice.
Some people have no choice.
> As regards the department that deals with ID cards, apart
> from having to queue up, the service I got was excellent.
> I know someone who had his passport eaten by the dog
> the day before he was flying to the US and they issued
> a new one on the spot. Try doing that in the UK.
> As regards changes in tax assessment in the UK you
> seem to have missed all the advertisments about it on
> the television. I believe you can even fill in the forms
> online now. This years Gibraltar one seems to be the
> first redesign for many years.
The tax Assessment ad´s in the uk are for self employed people.
>
> As regards the hospital, if ypu give people resources and a
> nice environment to work in they generally respond well,
> Government has done that and invested in a study to improve
> work practices any further suggestions on what they can do?
I have said before, if people have been getting away with it for years
and getting paid for it. Then they are not going to want to work for
it.
As long has the same managers are running this new hospital then
nothing will never change.
If they dont want to change then get rid of them. Because at the end of
the day it´s peoples lives they are playing around with.
Jim Watt
>Some people have no choice.
So you say. But only people who don't take responsibility
for their lives.
>The tax Assessment ad愀 in the uk are for self employed people.
Not just them;
"If the Inland Revenue suspects you have income which needs to be
taxed under self-assessment, it will send you a tax return to
complete. However, it is your responsibility to ask for a tax return
if you think you have income which needs to be taxed under
self-assessment. "
>As long has the same managers are running this new hospital then
>nothing will never change.
Read the news, there is a new chief executive and there is
a minister responsible.
Ken
"Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote in message
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>
> "Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> years ago while on visit to the Rock, I was led to believe he abused his
> power, apportioning property "a la 1704". This material was presumably
> unearthed by the Gib Labour Party. Tell me, is this accurate or is it just
> political humbug?
Indeed Sir J was perhaps Gib's first statesman. However he fell down on two
counts, to my reckoning. The first we heard of was that he fairly much
agreed with the 1987 airport (dis)agreement. The other one, which occurred
earlier, was that apparently Wilson when UK prime minister had offered Gib
integration with the UK, an offer SirJ turned down stating that there was no
appetitie for this in Gib. Indeed thee may not have been, but such a
monumentous change in status for Gib should not be the gift of any one
individual to accept or reject - this should have gone to the people.
K
Ken
"steve" <stevemc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Ken wrote:
> "Steve" <st...@gibraltarian.net> wrote in message
> news:1121287702.3...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Post office savings account
>
> If you don't like the conditions, you don't have to open an account
You have missed the point OM, Why has it taken them 7 years to tell us.
after countless transactions that have been accepted which acording to
them that they should not of.
eh?
> > ID Cards
>
> When you fly in an aeroplane you re an adult (for price purposes) at 12.
> However you do not have a duty free allowance until 18, but you can marry
> and join the armed forces at 16. In the US you cannot drink until you;re
> 21,
> but in some states a 12 year old can have an automatic weapons licence.
That does not tell me why people who have been doing the job for years
still cant get it right. Is it lack of intelligence or just not wanting
to it?
If it is the latter then im sorry but they should not be doing to job.
Don't look for consiracy theories - you need purpose of forethought to
create a conspiracy.
>
> > PAYE
>
> In the UK where I live, though an employee, I too ahve to fill in my own
> tax
> return form.
That´s funny in the uk I cant recall doing that!
I've been filling one in every year even when as a student before I earned
any money here.
> > Low cost housing
>
> How about it? Many people have managed to get their foot on the property
> ladder because of it.
Really, a lot of young couples have had to go and live in la linea.
Yes - and many have not. Many who in previous years would have been living
in extended families in very cramped conditions with one or other set of
inlaws.
You should compare the position in Gib with what is
> happening in many small towns and villages in the UK, where rich folk come
> in and buy up all the property for holiday homes.
I know gibraltar is small, but you can´t compare it with a small town
or village.
What do you suggest then - Gib v Liverpool? A major problem for Gib is the
lack of milestones to gauge itself against. There are very few places with
the size of a parish and the trappings of nationhood. How many populations
of 30,000 have their VERY own fire, police, education, health, taxation,
budget etc etc etc
K
Ken
Jim Watt wrote:
> On 14 Jul 2005 00:12:17 -0700, "steve" <stevemc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Really, a lot of Gibraltarian couples have had to go and live in la
> >linea. because they dont want live at home with their parents.
>
> its a free country and their choice.
Some people have no choice.
> As regards the department that deals with ID cards, apart
> from having to queue up, the service I got was excellent.
> I know someone who had his passport eaten by the dog
> the day before he was flying to the US and they issued
> a new one on the spot. Try doing that in the UK.
> As regards changes in tax assessment in the UK you
> seem to have missed all the advertisments about it on
> the television. I believe you can even fill in the forms
> online now. This years Gibraltar one seems to be the
> first redesign for many years.
The tax Assessment ad愀 in the uk are for self employed people.
Again I AM AN EMPLOYEE AND FILL ONE IN YEAR AFTER YEAR. This year I did so
on-line for the first time. The tax return forms are NOT for the
self-employed - they are for anyone the taxman chooses to send one to.
>
> As regards the hospital, if ypu give people resources and a
> nice environment to work in they generally respond well,
> Government has done that and invested in a study to improve
> work practices any further suggestions on what they can do?
I have said before, if people have been getting away with it for years
and getting paid for it. Then they are not going to want to work for
it.
As long has the same managers are running this new hospital then
nothing will never change.
If they dont want to change then get rid of them. Because at the end of
the day it愀 peoples lives they are playing around with.
Might I suggest you have a calling here? Get into hospital management and
sort them out.
Ken
Lynx
True. However, I cannot but suspect that while the UK might have been, and I
very much doubt it, willing to integrate Gibraltar, the Britons would not
have ever integrated the Gibraltarian ethos. They would have acted like
colonials do. Had Sir J taken the offer, you and I and the rest of us might
have been residing in the moon by now. There're anough Liverpool rats in Gib
as it is anyway.............
Ken
"Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote in message
Indeed. The prospect of interation with Britain back then was not popular.
There was ONE govt formed by the IWBP, and that was a colaition that did not
serve its full term of office. However it must also be said that the concept
of the integrationist model that was apparent back then was doubtless a
different concept from that which is conceived now.
In Wilson's day, the notion would be that Gib would form a separate
constituency and would constitutionally become identical to the ISle of
Wight, with merely a greater distance between Gib and Southampton than there
is between Cowes or Newport and Southampton.
Today's notion is of an evolved Gib parliament with certain powers of
self-administration, not dissimilar in essence to the Welsh Parliament and
Scottish Assembly. I say "evloved" and not "devolved" because the process
would be the reverse of what happened in Scotland and Wales.
As neither model has ever been put before the electorate to decide upon or
between, the relative popularity of one or other "solution" remains pure
conjecture.
Ken
Lynx
Lynx
Had Gibraltar been a true colony, i.e. populated by peoples from mainland
Britain, I'd agree that integration might have been the way to go. But as
the reality is that although British and defending that status, we are not
predomiantly mainlanders. Not only that, but the interests of mainland
Britain, if not only by geographical disparity, but also cultural, cannot be
always the same as Gibraltar's. Hence, if we are to leave behind us the days
of colonialism, slavery, second-class citinship etc. Gibraltar must have its
own future, perhaps modelled on Westminster, but independant of the whims of
Britain's leaders and ceasing to be used as bargaining chip.
Ken
"Lynx" <M...@home.tranquilo> wrote in message
Amen. That is not to say that such a future cannot be had with a close
relationshipo with Westminster. However Westminster's power over the final
word needs to be severely eroded.
K
Lynx
Close relationship with Westminster, La Moncloa, The White House,
Canberra.....with the whole world.