Iberia gets better
Ken
home peninsula.
(Read to the well-known tune, ish)
If you go down to www.iberia.com today you're sure of a big surprise.
If you go down to www.iberia.com today you needn't go in disguise.
For every Jani that ever there was can log in and look up in there and
because
Now is the time we're listed as a separate country!
Yes indeed. Gibraltar is a country in its own right in their listings of
"pick your country of residence". The only fly that remains in the
(otherwise clear) ointment is that it remains possible to fly to "Gibraltar,
Campo de" under Spanish destinations while at the same time being able to
fly to "Gibraltar" under the list of European destinations covered.
So, once they remove the "Campo de" reference, all will be tickety-boo.
Amazing though, I hear that many Sp folk using Gib airport to fly to Madrid
are eschewing the courtesy bus that lets them check-in in La Linea,
preferring instead to cross the border into Gib and enter the air terminal
"como Dios manda". This even applies to Juarez, mayor of La Linea de la
Condenacion!
K
Lynx
"Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Gibraltar really needs ambassadors like you.
Ken
"Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote in message
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If you mean it as written, thank you. If you don't, because I'm TOOO pro-Gib
and not enough pro-Sp, thank you also. Oh heck, thanks anyway - there's no
such thing as bad publicity.
K
JimmyGibby
> home peninsula.
>
> (Read to the well-known tune, ish)
>
> If you go down to www.iberia.com today you're sure of a big surprise.
> If you go down to www.iberia.com today you needn't go in disguise.
> For every Jani that ever there was can log in and look up in there and
> because
> Now is the time we're listed as a separate country!
>
> Yes indeed. Gibraltar is a country in its own right in their listings of
> "pick your country of residence".
Except that Gibraltar isn't a country, a colony, dependent territory,
whatever, but it certainly isn't a country. They still have got it wrong!
>
> Amazing though, I hear that many Sp folk using Gib airport to fly to
> Madrid are eschewing the courtesy bus that lets them check-in in La Linea,
> preferring instead to cross the border into Gib and enter the air terminal
> "como Dios manda". This even applies to Juarez, mayor of La Linea de la
> Condenacion!
>
Of course, no surprise there, they want to pick up their cheap fags and
booze before they go back to Spain.
Jim Watt
wrote:
>Except that Gibraltar isn't a country, a colony, dependent territory,
>whatever, but it certainly isn't a country. They still have got it wrong!
Gibraltar is not a dependent territory or a colony.
As it has an ISO country code, it must be a country.
On the other hand you are out of your tree, which
leaves us with an adequate description.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com
JimmyGibby
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
news:6stiu2dhv1tg1li0j...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:50:05 -0000, "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Except that Gibraltar isn't a country, a colony, dependent territory,
>>whatever, but it certainly isn't a country. They still have got it wrong!
>
> Gibraltar is not a dependent territory or a colony.
>
> As it has an ISO country code, it must be a country.
>
Is it in your FAQ (sic)? Why don't you put it in and make it even more of a
biased, unthruthful load of crap that it already is?
JimmyGibby
From: "Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way>
Newsgroups: alt.gibraltar
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Iberia gets better
> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:50:05 -0000, "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Except that Gibraltar isn't a country, a colony, dependent territory,
>>whatever, but it certainly isn't a country. They still have got it wrong!
>
> Gibraltar is not a dependent territory or a colony.
>
> As it has an ISO country code, it must be a country.
>
I also hear the sound of a shotgun going off and Jim Watt hopping around.
Yes you've shot yourself in the foot as the Gibraltar currency (yes those
notes with the words 'Gibraltar' and 'Pound' on them) has an ISO code of
GIP, therefore (by your logic) they must exist as a separate currency.
From a 'British' point of view, Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory as
defined by the British Overseas Territories Act 2002.
If you wish to subscribe to a non-British point of view that is entirely up
to you Jim Watt.
Perhaps the Gibraltarians aren't as British as I thought?
Ken
"JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:esaa9...@news2.newsguy.com...
>> The Iberia in the title refers to the airline, NOT necessarily the larger
>> home peninsula.
>>
>> (Read to the well-known tune, ish)
>>
>> If you go down to www.iberia.com today you're sure of a big surprise.
>> If you go down to www.iberia.com today you needn't go in disguise.
>> For every Jani that ever there was can log in and look up in there and
>> because
>> Now is the time we're listed as a separate country!
>>
>> Yes indeed. Gibraltar is a country in its own right in their listings of
>> "pick your country of residence".
>
> Except that Gibraltar isn't a country, a colony, dependent territory,
> whatever, but it certainly isn't a country. They still have got it wrong!
No actually they have it right. I know where you're coming from, but my
homeland is my homeland whatever you might wish to call it. I know what it
is to me.
K
Ken
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way>
> Newsgroups: alt.gibraltar
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 1:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Iberia gets better
>
>
>> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:50:05 -0000, "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Except that Gibraltar isn't a country, a colony, dependent territory,
>>>whatever, but it certainly isn't a country. They still have got it
>>>wrong!
>>
>> Gibraltar is not a dependent territory or a colony.
>>
>> As it has an ISO country code, it must be a country.
>>
> I also hear the sound of a shotgun going off and Jim Watt hopping around.
>
> Yes you've shot yourself in the foot as the Gibraltar currency (yes those
> notes with the words 'Gibraltar' and 'Pound' on them) has an ISO code of
> GIP, therefore (by your logic) they must exist as a separate currency.
>
> From a 'British' point of view, Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory
> as
> defined by the British Overseas Territories Act 2002.
No. From the UK point of view, you may be correct - but not all British are
from the UK. As to the overseas bit, it's a rather ethnocentric point of
view that puts you at the centre of the world. This is the same argument
that calls people from one cointry residing in another "foreigners" while
those born in the UK residing elsewhere are called "ex-pats". "Offshore" and
"Overseas" from the Gib perspective can mean the UK.
> If you wish to subscribe to a non-British point of view that is entirely
> up
> to you Jim Watt.
>
> Perhaps the Gibraltarians aren't as British as I thought?
Oh as British as anyone in Scarborough or Warmington-on-Sea of Dad's Army
fame. But you are perhaps confusing being British with an Ango-Saxon
heritage, which it is no longer. Again, perhaps you are confining yourself
to a certain amount of ethno-centricity, looking at the world from your
perspective alone.
K
JimmyGibby
>
> "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net> wrote in message
> news:rJednS43z8A...@pipex.net...
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way>
>> Newsgroups: alt.gibraltar
>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 1:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Iberia gets better
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 11:50:05 -0000, "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Except that Gibraltar isn't a country, a colony, dependent territory,
>>>>whatever, but it certainly isn't a country. They still have got it
>>>>wrong!
>>>
>>> Gibraltar is not a dependent territory or a colony.
>>>
>>> As it has an ISO country code, it must be a country.
>>>
>> I also hear the sound of a shotgun going off and Jim Watt hopping around.
>>
>> Yes you've shot yourself in the foot as the Gibraltar currency (yes those
>> notes with the words 'Gibraltar' and 'Pound' on them) has an ISO code of
>> GIP, therefore (by your logic) they must exist as a separate currency.
>>
>> From a 'British' point of view, Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory
>> as
>> defined by the British Overseas Territories Act 2002.
>
> No. From the UK point of view, you may be correct
From the British point of view, Gib (at the moment) included, I am correct
- but not all British are
> from the UK.
And your point is?
> As to the overseas bit, it's a rather ethnocentric point of view that puts
> you at the centre of the world. This is the same argument that calls
> people from one cointry residing in another "foreigners" while those born
> in the UK residing elsewhere are called "ex-pats". "Offshore" and
> "Overseas" from the Gib perspective can mean the UK.
So what, doesn't change the fact that from a British point of view,
Gibraltar is not a country.
>
>
>
>> If you wish to subscribe to a non-British point of view that is entirely
>> up
>> to you Jim Watt.
>>
>> Perhaps the Gibraltarians aren't as British as I thought?
>
> Oh as British as anyone in Scarborough or Warmington-on-Sea of Dad's Army
> fame. But you are perhaps confusing being British with an Ango-Saxon
> heritage, which it is no longer. Again, perhaps you are confining yourself
> to a certain amount of ethno-centricity, looking at the world from your
> perspective alone.
>
> K
>
I not 'confusing' anything. If Gibraltarians subscribe to the view that
they are a country then this is not the British point of view. Either
Gibraltar is a British overseas territory or it is not, it is for Gibraltar
to decide.
It certainly isn't a 'country' by the British interpretation, if people
don't like the British point of view in Gibraltar then they know the choices
amigo.
Lynx
You see that's your problem, you seem to believe that being anti-Spanish
makes all the more and better a Gibraltarian. And, of course as always, you
are wrong. Your antagonism and abrasive manner couldn't be further from the
hospitable and friendly nature of true Gibraltarians. Qualities which we
Gibraltarians have long been known for. Sometimes you come across as a very
crossed and disenchanted convert. You know what they say about ex-smokers,
right?
Lynx
>
> "Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:esaa9...@news2.newsguy.com...
>> The Iberia in the title refers to the airline, NOT necessarily the larger
>> home peninsula.
>>
>> Madrid are eschewing the courtesy bus that lets them check-in in La
>> Linea, preferring instead to cross the border into Gib and enter the air
>> terminal "como Dios manda". This even applies to Juarez, mayor of La
>> Linea de la Condenacion!
>>
> Of course, no surprise there, they want to pick up their cheap fags and
> booze before they go back to Spain.
Bullseye.
Lynx
Well. And to think all this hullabaloo could be done away with if
Gibraltarians had Gibraltar Citizenship.
Lynx
<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
news:6o9ju2pki05hjpqst...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:32:01 +0100, Jim Watt <jim...@aol.no_way>
> wrote:
>
>>Gibraltar is not a dependent territory or a colony.
>>
>>As it has an ISO country code, it must be a country.
>
>
> Wales and Scotland... Both countries... Neither have their own ISO
> code. Though I understand Scotland has considered applying for one
> and both countries are after national internet domains, though mainly
> for possible trade and tourism benefits.
>
> Should be fun. :-)
ISO code defines a country. And pigs might fly too!
Jim Watt
wrote:
>From a 'British' point of view, Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory
No, you are talking absolute rubbish again, its not.
JimmyGibby
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 14:17:43 -0000, "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>From a 'British' point of view, Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory
>
> No, you are talking absolute rubbish again, its not.
No, you are talking absolute rubbish again, it is.
Ken
The point ofview may be a British one, but not a UK British one. It may be a
Gibraltarian British, Falkland British etc etc. In fact any of the remaining
13 populated (out of 16) pink bits. Certainly "British" is not synonymous
with "UK"
>
>> As to the overseas bit, it's a rather ethnocentric point of view that
>> puts you at the centre of the world. This is the same argument that calls
>> people from one cointry residing in another "foreigners" while those born
>> in the UK residing elsewhere are called "ex-pats". "Offshore" and
>> "Overseas" from the Gib perspective can mean the UK.
>
> So what, doesn't change the fact that from a British point of view,
> Gibraltar is not a country.
No there you go again. The UK might not see it as one, but the persepective
may be different from somewhere else - Gib, for example. Sure we may have an
uphill struggle for others to believe it, but if we do not believe it for
ourselves in the first place there is no chance that others will believe it
for us. We have to start somewhere.
>>> If you wish to subscribe to a non-British point of view that is entirely
>>> up
>>> to you Jim Watt.
>>>
>>> Perhaps the Gibraltarians aren't as British as I thought?
>>
>> Oh as British as anyone in Scarborough or Warmington-on-Sea of Dad's Army
>> fame. But you are perhaps confusing being British with an Ango-Saxon
>> heritage, which it is no longer. Again, perhaps you are confining
>> yourself to a certain amount of ethno-centricity, looking at the world
>> from your perspective alone.
>>
>> K
>>
>
> I not 'confusing' anything. If Gibraltarians subscribe to the view that
> they are a country then this is not the British point of view. Either
> Gibraltar is a British overseas territory or it is not, it is for
> Gibraltar to decide.
No, it is not the UK point of view. It may be the Gibraltar point of view.
And frankly, it IS for Gibraltar to decide if you care to read the UN
Charter on Human Rights on 1948 to which the UK is signatory (without
exception) which states that in manners of decolonisation, the views of the
colonised are paramount - in other words, overrule anything the colonisers
might have to say on the matter.
> It certainly isn't a 'country' by the British interpretation, if people
> don't like the British point of view in Gibraltar then they know the
> choices amigo.
Again, there you go. A point of view, if Gibraltarian, is a British point of
view just a it is a British point of view it is a point of view held by the
majority of Scots. points of view can be cintradictory and at the same time
all be British. It is an odd tyhing that I have to be explaining the nature
of the British term of inclusivity to someone of the UK. Perhaps there is
something really amiss in the UK afer all with all this multi-culturalism,
that the UK has forgotten what it is, where its borders are what it stands
for, and what the terms themselves mean!
If you haven't noticed I'm being particularly and purposely inflammatory all
of a sudden.
K
Ken
Never right - under any circumstances whatsoever - OK.
> Your antagonism and abrasive manner couldn't be further from the
> hospitable and friendly nature of true Gibraltarians.
You are confusing friendliness with being a push-over. I may be very
friendly, but that is not to say I am to be ridden roughshod over yet remain
friendly towards thosw who would do me harm!
> Qualities which we Gibraltarians have long been known for. Sometimes you
> come across as a very crossed and disenchanted convert. You know what they
> say about ex-smokers, right?
I know ex-smokers to smell better than they did when they were smokers. How
can you tell what I smell like from the other side of the world?
K
Ken
<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:32:01 +0100, Jim Watt <jim...@aol.no_way>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>As it has an ISO country code, it must be a country.
>
>
> Wales and Scotland... Both countries... Neither have their own ISO
> code.
Wales is actually defined as a principality, not a country. An N Ireland is
a province.
> Though I understand Scotland has considered applying for one
> and both countries are after national internet domains, though mainly
> for possible trade and tourism benefits.
>
> Should be fun. :-)
Amazing that the Act of Union has not achieved here what pragmatism has
achievd in the Carribean with most adopting the IDD code 1, as the USA has.
K
Ken
Oi Lynx!
So, how does the chaleco feel on you now? You can see how me peleo con los
Guiris as well as I do the Rabuo. Can you see that there is no special
animosity against anyone in particular, I am not biased, all are the same!
I remind you that in the same way I don't read Cervantes, neither do I read
Hardy. Just as I don't listen to zarzuelas, neither do I listen to Gilbert+
Sullivan. My walls are not adorned by Goya - nor Constable.
Get it yet?
K
Ken
Did you know there is no such thing as Scottish, Welsh, or English
citizenship? All are British Citizens!
K
Ken
"Kerching!" rings the till of the Gib exchequer, bringing in more foreign
currency earnings. Building better buildings, better standards of education
in schools, better healthcare, better roads, better infrastructure. Why be
cynical about it or deny it?
K
Ken
As an Australian, you shold know that pigs DO fly, and often, in PNG.
K
Jim Watt
wrote:
You might be better informed if you read the alt.gibraltar FAQ
which says:
Gibraltar has the status of a 'UK Overseas Territory'
So you are wrong again.
Jim Watt
wrote:
Indeed smoking is good for our health.
JimmyGibby
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
'Better informed if you read the alt.gibraltar FAQ' I haven't laughed so
much in years.
You're a real idiot, first all you say Gibraltar IS a country because it has
an ISO code (thereby contradicting your Gibraltar Pounds argument)
Then you contradict yourself by saying it's a UK Overseas Territory. How
can be trust anything you say (or anything that's in your FAQ for that
matter)?
From the British Overseas Territories Act 2002
(4) This Act extends to-
(a) the United Kingdom,
(b) the Channel Islands and the Isle of Man, and
(c) the British overseas territories.
But my point was that Gibraltar ISN'T a country. I am right.
Ken
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
Should that not read "good for our WEALTH?"
K
Lynx
"Ken" wrote:
>
> Oi Lynx!
>
> So, how does the chaleco feel on you now? You can see how me peleo con los
> Guiris as well as I do the Rabuo. Can you see that there is no special
> animosity against anyone in particular, I am not biased, all are the same!
>
> I remind you that in the same way I don't read Cervantes, neither do I
> read Hardy. Just as I don't listen to zarzuelas, neither do I listen to
> Gilbert+ Sullivan. My walls are not adorned by Goya - nor Constable.
>
> Get it yet?
I must say, had you been un espadachín de la época del siglo 16, you would
have long ago found yourself like Alatriste's nemesis Malatesta! :)
Coñooo, at least you know of the name Goya!
Lynx
"Ken" wrote:
>
> "Kerching!" rings the till of the Gib exchequer, bringing in more foreign
> currency earnings. Building better buildings, better standards of
> education in schools, better healthcare, better roads, better
> infrastructure. Why be cynical about it or deny it?
Because it's in Gib's interest to be friends with Spain, hombre!
Lynx
"Ken" wrote:
>
>> Well. And to think all this hullabaloo could be done away with if
>> Gibraltarians had Gibraltar Citizenship.
>
> Did you know there is no such thing as Scottish, Welsh, or English
> citizenship? All are British Citizens!
Quite frankly paisano, I don't give a damn. Gib, now that's different.
Lynx
Lynx
"Ken" wrote:
>
>> You see that's your problem, you seem to believe that being anti-Spanish
>> makes all the more and better a Gibraltarian. And, of course as always,
>> you are wrong.
>
> Never right - under any circumstances whatsoever - OK.
Just make sure your feet stay on the ground :))
>> Your antagonism and abrasive manner couldn't be further from the
>> hospitable and friendly nature of true Gibraltarians.
>
> You are confusing friendliness with being a push-over. I may be very
> friendly, but that is not to say I am to be ridden roughshod over yet
> remain friendly towards thosw who would do me harm!
Don't let that paranoia get a hold on you. Increase your medication :))
>> Qualities which we Gibraltarians have long been known for. Sometimes you
>> come across as a very crossed and disenchanted convert. You know what
>> they say about ex-smokers, right?
>
> I know ex-smokers to smell better than they did when they were smokers.
> How can you tell what I smell like from the other side of the world?
Ex smokers are the most aggressive anti smoker campaigners. Just like the
inquisition. The worst inquisitors were the new conversos. Didn't you know?
Lynx
"Ken" wrote:
>
> Wales is actually defined as a principality, not a country. An N Ireland
> is a province.
A principality where the natives have for centuries been literally driven
into the ground. Safe those who escaped by emigrating!
Lynx
For someone in your profession, that is truly a shameful statement.
Lynx
>
> As an Australian, you shold know that pigs DO fly, and often, in PNG.
Huh? Do you know where Oz and PNG are? I suppose you think the whole
Pacific's one closely knitted happy family paying each other visits on a
weekly basis, right?!
Jim Watt
>Ex smokers are the most aggressive anti smoker campaigners. Just like the
>inquisition. The worst inquisitors were the new conversos. Didn't you know?
I didn't expect that ...
Jim Watt
wrote:
>From the British Overseas Territories Act 2002
Ah 2002, but we are talking about today.
Now were you to look under country profiles on
the FCO website, you would find they correctly
describe Gibraltar as
Status: UK Overseas Territory
And Gibraltar is under 'Country Profiles'
Should you have any further queries please
direct them at the FCO.
You really need to try harder and get your
facts right.
Jim Watt
>
>"Ken" wrote:
>>
>> Wales is actually defined as a principality, not a country. An N Ireland
>> is a province.
>
>A principality where the natives have for centuries been literally driven
>into the ground.
often in cages.
Jim Watt
wrote:
>> Indeed smoking is good for our health.
>
>Should that not read "good for our WEALTH?"
No the money has been spent on the new hospital
Ken
How is it in Gib's interests, even in regard to its relation with Sp., to be
worse off?
K
Ken
Not really. It's a recognition of reality. CLosing my eyes to it does not
make me a better person.
K
Ken
I'm neither ignorant nor stupid - my likes and dislikes might be atypical,
but that's all.
K
Ken
No -AI'm aware fo the distances. However Oz has a "Sp relationship" with
PNG, where locals often take their pigs on internal flights to local
markets!
K
Ken
Common knowledge - but pinchates more if I feign ignorance at first!
K
Ken
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:15:52 -0000, "Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>> Indeed smoking is good for our health.
>>
>>Should that not read "good for our WEALTH?"
>
> No the money has been spent on the new hospital
Oh yes of course!
K
Ken
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 02:43:52 GMT, "Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ken" wrote:
>>>
>>> Wales is actually defined as a principality, not a country. An N Ireland
>>> is a province.
>>
>>A principality where the natives have for centuries been literally driven
>>into the ground.
>
> often in cages.
Mining for Pot Noodle! Fuel of Britain, isn't it?
K
JimmyGibby
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 21:23:58 -0000, "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>From the British Overseas Territories Act 2002
>
> Ah 2002, but we are talking about today.
>
> Now were you to look under country profiles on
> the FCO website, you would find they correctly
> describe Gibraltar as
>
> Status: UK Overseas Territory
If you look at the British Overseas Territories Act 2002 it says BRITISH
Overseas Territories Act
If you have any further queries please direct them at the British Government
JimmyGibby
From the FCO website;
"SUMMARY
Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory. There is no formal British
consular representation in Gibraltar and the local authorities deal with all
requests for consular assistance. The General section of this Travel Advice
gives you more information about this."
So the left hand doesn't know what the right ahand is doing, what's clear is
that a) your FAQ is complete bollocks and b) you don't know any thing about
the BRITISH overseas Act 2002, the name of the act is a big CLUE you
dimwit!!
If you don't like the British, you know where you can go amigo.
Jim Watt
wrote:
>So the left hand doesn't know what the right ahand is doing, what's clear is
>that a) your FAQ is complete bollocks and b) you don't know any thing about
>the BRITISH overseas Act 2002, the name of the act is a big CLUE you
>dimwit!!
Because its ancient history.
q. Why don't you look at the Gibraltar profile on the
FCO website instead of dredging up old nonsense.
a. because it does not support your argument.
As always you are talking nonsense.
Ken
The British on the whole are OK. Some of the English are however another
matter.
As indeed are some of the Scot, some of the Welsh, some of the Gibraltarian
etc etc.
K
Jim Watt
wrote:
>From the FCO website;
FAQs on the Overseas Territories
What is an Overseas Territory?
The Overseas Territories are constitutionally not part of the United
Kingdom. They have separate constitutions, and most Overseas
Territories have elected governments with varying degrees of
responsibilities for domestic matters. The Governor, who is
appointed by, and represents, HM the Queen, retains responsibility
for external affairs, internal security, defence, and in most cases
the public service.
Which are the UK Overseas Territories?
There are 14 UK Overseas Territories.
Anguilla, Bermuda, British Antarctic Territory (BAT), British Indian
Ocean Territory (BIOT), British Virgin Islands (BVI), Cayman
Islands, Falkland Islands, Gibraltar, Montserrat, Pitcairn Islands,
St Helena and its Dependencies (Ascension Island and Tristan da
Cunha), South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, the Sovereign
Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia in Cyprus and The Turks &
Caicos Islands (TCI
Now FAQ off.
JimmyGibby
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:47:33 -0000, "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>So the left hand doesn't know what the right ahand is doing, what's clear
>>is
>>that a) your FAQ is complete bollocks and b) you don't know any thing
>>about
>>the BRITISH overseas Act 2002, the name of the act is a big CLUE you
>>dimwit!!
>
> Because its ancient history.
>
Don't bother correcting your FAQ though, no one reads it anyway.
Gibraltar is not a country from the British point of view, if Gibraltar
doesn't like it I'm sure there's another country it can be part of amigo.
JimmyGibby
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:47:33 -0000, "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>From the FCO website;
>
> FAQs on the Overseas Territories
>
Oh know the word 'FAQ' (sic) and Jim Watt, here comes bollocks....
> What is an Overseas Territory?
>
> The Overseas Territories are constitutionally not part of the United
> Kingdom. They have separate constitutions, and most Overseas
> Territories have elected governments with varying degrees of
> responsibilities for domestic matters. The Governor, who is
> appointed by, and represents, HM the Queen, retains responsibility
> for external affairs, internal security, defence, and in most cases
> the public service.
>
> Which are the UK Overseas Territories?
Check the FCO website
"SUMMARY
Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory. There is no formal British
consular representation in Gibraltar and the local authorities deal with all
requests for consular assistance. The General section of this Travel Advice
gives you more information about this."
>
> There are 14 UK Overseas Territories.
>
> Anguilla, Bermuda, British Antarctic Territory (BAT), British Indian
> Ocean Territory (BIOT), British Virgin Islands (BVI), Cayman
> Islands, Falkland Islands, Gibraltar, Montserrat, Pitcairn Islands,
> St Helena and its Dependencies (Ascension Island and Tristan da
> Cunha), South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, the Sovereign
> Base Areas of Akrotiri and Dhekelia in Cyprus and The Turks &
> Caicos Islands (TCI
>
>
There are 14 British Overseas Territories
Get it right, if you don't like you know where to go amigo.
JimmyGibby
Would you prefer to be Spanish instead?
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 02:41:16 GMT, "Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote:
>
>>Ex smokers are the most aggressive anti smoker campaigners. Just like the
>>inquisition. The worst inquisitors were the new conversos. Didn't you
>>know?
>
> I didn't expect that ...
It happens to be true, and written by a renowned Jewish historian. But the
point was that converts, no matter from to what, will react with more
determination against that to which they converted from.
Lynx
We do much for them, true. But our peoples are light years apart. We are far
closer to Sth East Asian countries, like HK, SIN, Malaysia, Vietnam, etc.
Lynx
"Ken" wrote:
>
> I'm neither ignorant nor stupid - my likes and dislikes might be atypical,
> but that's all.
Of course, hombre, of course.
Lynx
Perhaps, But not promoting with such comments would make a vast improvement.
Lynx
Please explain.
Lynx
Yes we know :))
Lynx
What kind of a choice is that? It's reminiscent of Gibraltar's first
referendum, where the choice was, 'Remain British and thus a colony or take
a walk across the border to Spain's dictatorship, but you can't take
Gibraltar with you'.
Gibraltarians, as far as identity goes, don't need to be given a choice,
they have been a people long before many first world countries were
invented.
Lynx
A tradition carried over from Roman times.
Ken
In PNG is the only PROVEN prion disease of man you know, Kuru. Comes from
eating the brains of one's ancestors - a practice said to have been wiped
out many years ago but who knows what happens in the rmote inaccessible
hills, eh?
K
Ken
I suspect that which Jim did not expect was a refernce to the Spanish
Inquisition! (See Monty Python and the Holy Grail)
K
Ken
The expression "extracting the urine" might be more in keeping with what I
had in mind.
K
Ken
Yes. Around then, according to folklore, Wales was attached to Italy before
they were torn apart by plate tectonics. Wales got the Pot Noodle, and Italy
got all the pasta, see?
:))
K
Ken
Now where did that come from? I think you'll find my post to which you reply
perfectly balanced. No need to descend to the pits, into which I shall not
follow.
K
Ken
Oh - I was hoping you would. Never mind!
K
Jim Watt
wrote:
>
>"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
>news:9prlu29raorb9e7c6...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:47:33 -0000, "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>From the FCO website;
>>
>> FAQs on the Overseas Territories
>>
>
>Oh know the word 'FAQ' (sic) and Jim Watt, here comes bollocks....
>
>
>
>> What is an Overseas Territory?
>>
>> The Overseas Territories are constitutionally not part of the United
>> Kingdom. They have separate constitutions, and most Overseas
>> Territories have elected governments with varying degrees of
>> responsibilities for domestic matters. The Governor, who is
>> appointed by, and represents, HM the Queen, retains responsibility
>> for external affairs, internal security, defence, and in most cases
>> the public service.
>>
>> Which are the UK Overseas Territories?
Gibraltar !
>Check the FCO website
That WAS the FCO website.
What your problem, got no life ?
Jim Watt
wrote:
Nobody would expect that !
Jim Watt
wrote:
>In PNG is the only PROVEN prion disease of man you know, Kuru. Comes from
>eating the brains of one's ancestors - a practice said to have been wiped
>out many years ago but who knows what happens in the rmote inaccessible
>hills, eh?
what about GSS?
Jim Watt
wrote:
>If you haven't noticed I'm being particularly and purposely inflammatory
take an aspirin.
Ken
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 19:14:18 -0000, "Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>If you haven't noticed I'm being particularly and purposely inflammatory
>
> take an aspirin.
You could, but these days the choice is bewildering!
K
Ken
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
(v)CJD, GSS and the other thingy - familial heriditary insomnia - have v
strong evidence for their being transmissible prions. However no-one has
constructed the ultiimate clinical scenario of ingestion such as was
practiced in PNG!!
But yes OK, within the constraints imposed, the others are too - but NONE
has the evidence base of Kuru (in humans at least)
K
JimmyGibby
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
Lynx
I'm waiting for Monty Python's send-up on the English Witch-Hunt.
Lynx
Absolutely. Years ago, Oz missionaries gave me, and I still preserve them, a
set of 4 indigenous PNG hunting spears. No metal, all organic material. The
sharp tips made from a very hard wood. I had no idea about Kuru,
interesting.
I did some structural draughting work for the PNG copper mining project
(many years ago), a then work colleague went over to PNG to liaise with
engineers onsite. He came back telling us that a local worker got several
weeks prison sentence for driving a chisel through another's skull and
killing him.
Lynx
Goodone.
Didn't Joseph of Aremathea own tin mines in Wales?
Lynx
So tell me, when you're in French restaurant, do you go for sweetmeats?
Lynx
You mean you rather walk around looking confused than taking an aspirin?
Jim Watt
wrote:
Being serious, I note that Morrisons have withdrawn
aspirin from the supermarket and its only available
at the pharmacy on request.
The only product on display is the propriety one with
added caffine, which is supposed to make it work better
But plain old simple asprin is hard to get.
Jim Watt
wrote:
>> That WAS the FCO website.
>>
>Re-check it
Country Profile: Gibraltar
Status: UK Overseas Territory
Did you come for the short argument or did you book
the full half hour ?
Jim Watt
>> In PNG is the only PROVEN prion disease of man you know, Kuru. Comes from
>> eating the brains of one's ancestors - a practice said to have been wiped
>> out many years ago but who knows what happens in the rmote inaccessible
>> hills, eh?
>
>Absolutely. Years ago, Oz missionaries gave me, and I still preserve them, a
>set of 4 indigenous PNG hunting spears. No metal, all organic material. The
>sharp tips made from a very hard wood. I had no idea about Kuru,
>interesting.
>I did some structural draughting work for the PNG copper mining project
>(many years ago), a then work colleague went over to PNG to liaise with
>engineers onsite. He came back telling us that a local worker got several
>weeks prison sentence for driving a chisel through another's skull and
>killing him.
He might have got a death sentence for eating his brains ...
JimmyGibby
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 00:13:25 -0000, "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net>
> wrote:
>
>>> That WAS the FCO website.
>>>
>>Re-check it
>
The point I'm making is that Gibraltar isn't a country, I am right.
Furthermore your inaccurate FAQ uses information from a web site that
contradicts itself.
I've used the British Territories Act 2002, the clue is in the title.
Ken
No - the choice of compounds available in this category is bewildering. It's
a massive market of which all comapnies want a share. Imagine how many
headaches and minor aches and pains tere are evcery day world wide. Imagine
what your turnover would be if you corned 0.1% of all tablets taken for such
conditions. Now you know why there are so many to choose from.
K
Ken
Or was that Cornwall? Tintagel perhaps? Actually I once had a licence to
mine tin in Cornwall - no kidding! You could buy these, as souvenirs, for
25p. The document actually had the force of the law behind it, but the
problem was you were unlikely to bring more than 25p's worth of tim to the
surface in a fortnight, which was the period of validity of the licence.
K
Ken
Load of bolleaux! Am rarely in a French restaurant these days. Actually hard
to come by these days. Maybe becasue they've been rumbled, giving posh names
to things like cheese on toast and the like!
K
Lynx
Hee hee hee.....I was only stirring you mate!
Lynx
"Ken" wrote:
>
> Load of bolleaux! Am rarely in a French restaurant these days. Actually
> hard to come by these days. Maybe becasue they've been rumbled, giving
> posh names to things like cheese on toast and the like!
You mean pelote? Could be that anything with a French name sounds posh to
us. I used to go to a Belgium restaurant, excellent food. I have always
found French restaurants to have that extra touch. Portuguese tend to be a
bit too earthy, beans in everything, and heavy sauces you could walk on, a
bit rich for moi!
Lynx
Back in the 70's you could buy a square inch of Oz realestate for $1.00, the
title was in the form of a postage stamp. Sure some suckers would've fallen
for it.
So it was Cornwall then, was it?
Jim Watt
wrote:
>
>"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
>news:v8lnu21uc7g1adkl7...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 00:13:25 -0000, "JimmyGibby" <see...@jimmy.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> That WAS the FCO website.
>>>>
>>>Re-check it
>>
>http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1007029390590&a=KCountryAdvice&aid=1035796306456
>
>
>The point I'm making is that Gibraltar isn't a country, I am right.
And your proof for that would be ?
>Furthermore your inaccurate FAQ ...
And your proof for that would be ?
>I've used the British Territories Act 2002, the clue is in the title.
Yes, 2002.
But Gibraltar is a UK Overseas territory as stated by
the FCO on the country profile. If you wish to argue
further about that contact them.
Jim Watt
>Back in the 70's you could buy a square inch of Oz realestate for $1.00, the
>title was in the form of a postage stamp. Sure some suckers would've fallen
>for it.
Ah but if you own land, can't you claim residence ?
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:19:28 GMT, "Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote:
>
>>Back in the 70's you could buy a square inch of Oz realestate for $1.00,
>>the
>>title was in the form of a postage stamp. Sure some suckers would've
>>fallen
>>for it.
>
> Ah but if you own land, can't you claim residence ?
Perhaps back then, not sure. These days however, foreign investment in Oz
real-estate is huge. So big in fact, it's one of the main reason, other than
low interest rates, for the hike in property price. So I'd say you can own
property in a foreign country, without necessarily obtaining residence. In
Thailand foreigners are not allowed to own property, hence some marry local
girls.
Jim Watt
>In Thailand foreigners are not allowed to own property, hence
>some marry local girls.
Spain used to be like that, a company had to have a Spanish
director. The EU has swept all that nonsense away.
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:13:23 GMT, "Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote:
>
>>In Thailand foreigners are not allowed to own property, hence
>>some marry local girls.
>
> Spain used to be like that, a company had to have a Spanish
> director. The EU has swept all that nonsense away.
Which reminds me, a Spanish citizen could not own a business nor property in
Gib. Is that law still in force?
Jim Watt
Didn't know there ever was that restriction. Certainly does
not apply today. Just as long as they don't want to fly the
flag its OK
Ken
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
The restriction was not applied by Gib - it was applied by Franco on his
citizens. In the same way that a Sp daily migrant worker was not permitted
by Franco to play the Gib lottery. Any tickets found on the person (of a
Sp.) were confiscated. Of course some played, and kept their tickets in Gib.
Moving any gained wealth back to Sp was a problem for them if a significant
win.
K