Unsurpassed Iberian Music
Lynx
Negro?
Ken
"Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone in this ng ever heard, the now late, Amalia Rodrigues sing Barco
> Negro?
Personally not only have I never heard her sing, I have never heard her
name.
K
Lynx
"Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Why am I not surprised? Bet you've heard about trash like Marilyn Manson and
the likes. Anyone might think Gibraltar's inside a hermetically sealed
bubble. Luckily this has never been the case.
Ken
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> "Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> "Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote in message
>> news:%3CCh.1396$8U4...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> Anyone in this ng ever heard, the now late, Amalia Rodrigues sing Barco
>>> Negro?
>>
>> Personally not only have I never heard her sing, I have never heard her
>> name.
>
> Why am I not surprised? Bet you've heard about trash like Marilyn Manson
> and the likes.
No.
> Anyone might think Gibraltar's inside a hermetically sealed bubble.
> Luckily this has never been the case.
Why would you think that, because I am not a lover of the arts? Why is it to
be assumed that a love of the arts is somehow good, and better than not
loving the arts? Why is appreciation of science so undervalued? You really
are mixing a lot of stuff up, according to your personal preferences.
K
Jim Watt
There does seem to be a strong preference of what one might
term 'hard rock' or 'heavy metal' locally. This is supported
by the presence of a number of local bands, some of which have
done well in other countries.
Gibraltar also has classical concerts, and recently a
piano recital by a world famous Argentinian lady whose
name escapes me.
No doubt someone is interested in obscure Spanish folk
music, but not me.
What have you got against Marilyn Manson anyway, he is
not all bad.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com
Lynx
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> "Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote in message
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>> "Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%3CCh.1396$8U4...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> Anyone in this ng ever heard, the now late, Amalia Rodrigues sing Barco
>>>> Negro?
>>>
>>> Personally not only have I never heard her sing, I have never heard her
>>> name.
>>
>> Why am I not surprised? Bet you've heard about trash like Marilyn Manson
>> and the likes.
>
> No.
I am really pleased.
>> Anyone might think Gibraltar's inside a hermetically sealed bubble.
>> Luckily this has never been the case.
>
> Why would you think that, because I am not a lover of the arts? Why is it
> to be assumed that a love of the arts is somehow good, and better than not
> loving the arts? Why is appreciation of science so undervalued? You really
> are mixing a lot of stuff up, according to your personal preferences.
I will never engage a fellow Gibraltarian in a public discord, least of all
you. But it does seem to me, that you may not have been exposed to some of
the best music to have come out from Iberia. Amalia Rodrigues was the
undoubted queen of fado. Fado is the music of Portugal. Try to listen to
this type of music. You might appreciate it.
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:29:10 GMT, "Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Ken" <k...@k1at.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%3CCh.1396$8U4...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> Anyone in this ng ever heard, the now late, Amalia Rodrigues sing Barco
>>>> Negro?
>>>
>>> Personally not only have I never heard her sing, I have never heard her
>>> name.
>>
>>Why am I not surprised? Bet you've heard about trash like Marilyn Manson
>>and
>>the likes. Anyone might think Gibraltar's inside a hermetically sealed
>>bubble. Luckily this has never been the case.
>
> There does seem to be a strong preference of what one might
> term 'hard rock' or 'heavy metal' locally. This is supported
> by the presence of a number of local bands, some of which have
> done well in other countries.
True. Breed 77, if I'm not mistaken, came to Oz some years ago. But it seems
that business contracts, or the lack thereof, can deny a whole nation of any
given music. I find so much music and visual, films etc, on the NET, that
simply don't make it over here. We do get saturated with us products.
> Gibraltar also has classical concerts, and recently a
> piano recital by a world famous Argentinian lady whose
> name escapes me.
Indeed, I do recall reading about Gibraltar's recent concerts and talented
input into the world of classical music. Gibraltar has always produced
talented musicians. All of whom make us all very proud, I'm sure.
> No doubt someone is interested in obscure Spanish folk
> music, but not me.
No, I wouldn't expect you to. Not only would you not understand it, you also
carry a chip on your shoulder the size of the Rock. Still, I can just
understand some Portuguese. As it turns out, I was making reference to the
world famous Fado and its most important interpreter to date.
> What have you got against Marilyn Manson anyway, he is
> not all bad.
You missed your call in life, should have been a comedian.
Ken
I have heard the Fado - indeed sat in a restaurant in the old quarter of
Lisbon when some were performed live. Very nice. However, I would not go as
far as to purchase any recordings. In fact, I own no musical recordings at
all - it just doesn't feature in my life.
K
Jim Watt
<snip>
>No, I wouldn't expect you to. Not only would you not understand it, you also
>carry a chip on your shoulder the size of the Rock. Still, I can just
>understand some Portuguese. As it turns out, I was making reference to the
>world famous Fado and its most important interpreter to date.
>
>> What have you got against Marilyn Manson anyway, he is
>> not all bad.
>
>You missed your call in life, should have been a comedian.
Dunno, but Andalucian music, heavily influenced by Arabic
culture, seems to be full of wailing laments and not worth
serious attention.
Brian Warner sounds much more innocuous than Marilyn Manson,
what do you think of his music? Set aside the attempt at
shocking people, which has been with pop music from its
very beginning. After all what teenager would play music
his/her parents actually liked? MM is more a shock act
than anything else, first and foremost, Marilyn Manson
should not be taken as a representative of the Gothic
subculture. Many people think that he embodies it, but
everything that Manson does is motivated by its shock
value and his anticipation of society's reaction to it;
Manson compromises self in the name of image. He makes
a healthy living out of being a caricature of everything
he believes parents and general society loathe and love
to hate. His music, his appearance, his demeanor,
everything is a slave to society's opinion. "The
controversial shock-rock star with the satanic leanings
and violence-tinged music has never been a part of Goth
sub-culture artistically or philosophically, so say the
men and women in black.
In many way it shows the extra effort that a performer
has to go these days compared to say Mick Jagger in the
sixties. I saw Syd Barratt live on stage and he was shocking
enough without makeup and props. Then there is Alice Cooper
who as a rock singer, songwriter and musician has enjoyed a
career spanning some four decades. His stage show featured
guillotines, electric chairs, fake blood and boa constrictors,
now he is looking forward to being an old age pensioner, and
I think I saw him in a commercial recently. Later there was the
punk revolution with likes of Johnny Rotten in a backlash
against the new romantics.
They all made some good records, because although the shock
gets publicity you need to actually produce something
unique.
Simply chopping your hair off does not cut it.
Given that Mr Warner is a product of a country obsessed with
strange 'christian' cults and the Roman Catholic Church is in
Chapter 11 in Boston, its Irish spiritual home, what can you
expect. I would not want him round for tea and muffins.
PS: I went to a Fado concert and didn't like it.
Lynx
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:54:16 GMT, "Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>No, I wouldn't expect you to. Not only would you not understand it, you
>>also
>>carry a chip on your shoulder the size of the Rock. Still, I can just
>>understand some Portuguese. As it turns out, I was making reference to the
>>world famous Fado and its most important interpreter to date.
>>
>>> What have you got against Marilyn Manson anyway, he is
>>> not all bad.
>>
>>You missed your call in life, should have been a comedian.
>
> Dunno, but Andalucian music, heavily influenced by Arabic
> culture, seems to be full of wailing laments and not worth
> serious attention.
What the f**k would you know.
> Brian Warner sounds much more innocuous than Marilyn Manson,
> what do you think of his music?
Sorry. Did you say music?
> ...... Marilyn Manson
> should not be taken as a representative of the Gothic
> subculture. Many people think that he embodies it, but
> everything that Manson does is motivated by its shock
> value and his anticipation of society's reaction to it;
> Manson compromises self in the name of image. He makes
> a healthy living out of being a caricature of everything
> he believes parents and general society loathe and love
> to hate. His music, his appearance, his demeanor,
> everything is a slave to society's opinion.
His, sorry, Its saving grace is It wasn't born around the 1500's.
> In many way it shows the extra effort that a performer
> has to go these days compared to say Mick Jagger in the
> sixties.
I've seen the Stones live. Enough to say they can rock any place down. Good
to see them keeping on!
>....Then there is Alice Cooper
> who as a rock singer, songwriter and musician has enjoyed a
> career spanning some four decades.
It is another we can all do without.
> They all made some good records, because although the shock
> gets publicity you need to actually produce something
> unique.
Even if its unique caca. By the looks of things.
> PS: I went to a Fado concert and didn't like it.
Not surprised. You wouldn't know Jackshit about Fado or Flamenco. :))
I suppose you'll take that as a compliment too!
Ken
"Jim Watt" <jim...@aol.no_way> wrote in message
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 09:54:16 GMT, "Lynx" <t...@nquilo.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>No, I wouldn't expect you to. Not only would you not understand it, you
>>also
>>carry a chip on your shoulder the size of the Rock. Still, I can just
>>understand some Portuguese. As it turns out, I was making reference to the
>>world famous Fado and its most important interpreter to date.
>>
>>> What have you got against Marilyn Manson anyway, he is
>>> not all bad.
>>
>>You missed your call in life, should have been a comedian.
>
> Dunno, but Andalucian music, heavily influenced by Arabic
> culture, seems to be full of wailing laments and not worth
> serious attention.
Yep. My feelings too. It seems those who feel so passionate suffer so much
at its "enjoyment" there must be some severe streak of masochism running
rampant. Can't see the point of setting yourself up to be miserable.
K
Lynx
You have yet to live the joys of making up :))
Ken
What you do in your spare time is you business - even if it involves
dressing up and applying cosmetics. Just leave me out of it.
K
Lynx
And how come you know about these things....hmmm????
Ken
I come across so many aspects of human life in my work - doesn't mean I want
any part of it, on the contrary . .
K
Lynx
>
>>> What you do in your spare time is you business - even if it involves
>>> dressing up and applying cosmetics. Just leave me out of it.
>>
>> And how come you know about these things....hmmm????
>
> I come across so many aspects of human life in my work - doesn't mean I
> want any part of it, on the contrary . .
Same thing here. While on this slippery subject: How can a straight male be
declared a homophobic, when he does not fear men, his own kind. Homo is
Greek for 'the same'. Yet, nothing could more disparage than a heterosexual
male and homosexual male. Hence, given the meaning of homophobic, the term
itself is a misnomer. Agreed?
Ken
Words have their menaings change over time. Within our lifetime, and on this
topic, the word "gay" has come to mean different things.
K
Lynx
Absolutely. Listen to Al Bowly.
But I'm right in my assertion, no? :))
Ken
Oh I would say so. You who know languages will readily confirm that the same
root, typically Latin or Greek, can give rise in different languages to
words of different though related meaning. It is not surprising then that
words change their meaning WITHIN a language, and sometimes for a while,
during the transition, folk like you pick it up.
One thing I find incredibly annoying these days is the use of the plural
when the singular is demanded. Expressions such as "The Govt are
considering" NOOOO! The Govt IS considering. THE GOVT is a singular, even if
it made up of several people. The Committee IS, the Govt IS. The Committees
ARE, the Govts of the EU ARE. Fair enough. Worst is, BBC Radio 4 is up to
it, on the Today Programme! I mean, there's NO HOPE! PLEASE don't get me
starte on the split infinitive.
AND don't even MENTION people starting sentences with a conjunction OR a
preopsotion either ! :))
K
Lynx
Right on! I'm feeeeeling folkyyy :))
I remember shaking hands with the famous Chuck Berry once. The man said,
"Keep Rocking".
> One thing I find incredibly annoying these days is the use of the plural
> when the singular is demanded. Expressions such as "The Govt are
> considering" NOOOO! The Govt IS considering. THE GOVT is a singular, even
> if it made up of several people. The Committee IS, the Govt IS. The
> Committees ARE, the Govts of the EU ARE. Fair enough. Worst is, BBC Radio
> 4 is up to it, on the Today Programme! I mean, there's NO HOPE! PLEASE
> don't get me starte on the split infinitive.
OK man, Tranquilo....
> AND don't even MENTION people starting sentences with a conjunction OR a
> preopsotion either ! :))
But I thought...ooops.
By that you mean.....oooops, done it again :))
Ken
Indeed ;)
K
Carlos de Gante
> Anyone in this ng ever heard, the now late, Amalia Rodrigues sing Barco
> Negro?
Lynx
"Carlos de Gante" <lapar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Thanks, interesting link. Communication link failed.
To those who follow her music, and there are many, Amalia still reigns as
the Queen of Fado.
Manny
Uma casa portuguesa for example
Manny
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Ken
Ken
Uma casa Portuguesa, com certeza,
E com certeza - uma casa Portuguesa!
K
Lynx
Yes, this song being a little more up tempo. There's also Coimbra.
A work collegue, from Funchal, tells me there is now a new Fado singer, but
she is not as good as Amalia was.
Manny
certo com un saudinho de alegria
Manny
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>
Ken
Muito obrigado! Igualmente para você e sua familia!
K
Lynx
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> K
Muito bonito!