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Don Morrison
Apr 18, 2006, 1:19:03 PM4/18/06
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I am looking for my ancestors JohnMorrison and Isabel Ketney. John was a
ship captain working for the Robin Company in Paspebiac, Quebec. One source
has John and Isabel married about 1760 in the United States, but somehow I
rather think that they might have been married in England. I did find the
name Ketney in Kent Co., England. Would somebody be able to give me an idea
of how to go about finding information in England. Any help would be
appreciated.
Don Morrison
ship captain working for the Robin Company in Paspebiac, Quebec. One source
has John and Isabel married about 1760 in the United States, but somehow I
rather think that they might have been married in England. I did find the
name Ketney in Kent Co., England. Would somebody be able to give me an idea
of how to go about finding information in England. Any help would be
appreciated.
Don Morrison
Mary_...@tvo.org
Apr 18, 2006, 6:27:29 PM4/18/06
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Don, there is an entry in the One World Tree thingy on Ancestry that
says Isobel was born in Scotland about 1735 and died in 1836 in West
Bathurst, New Brunswick - which I think must be the one in New Jersey.
Husband John was born March 17 1736 in Alloa, Clackmannon, and died in
1807 in Passaic - only Passaic I know about is in NJ. Marriage is given
as about 1760, and may have been in Scotland as children are given as
Helen (1763), Elizabeth (1769), John 3 March 1774, William 1776, and
James 1784. It suggests John Jr. was born in Clackmannon.
says Isobel was born in Scotland about 1735 and died in 1836 in West
Bathurst, New Brunswick - which I think must be the one in New Jersey.
Husband John was born March 17 1736 in Alloa, Clackmannon, and died in
1807 in Passaic - only Passaic I know about is in NJ. Marriage is given
as about 1760, and may have been in Scotland as children are given as
Helen (1763), Elizabeth (1769), John 3 March 1774, William 1776, and
James 1784. It suggests John Jr. was born in Clackmannon.
Zero idea if this is at all accurate.
M,
Don Morrison
Apr 18, 2006, 8:28:20 PM4/18/06
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Hi Mary,
That information is absolutely fabulous. By the Bathurst, New
Brunswick is where I live and it is in Canada. Thanks so much.
Don
From: <Mary_...@tvo.org>
Subject: Re: John Morrison and Isabel Ketney
Date: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:27 PM
That information is absolutely fabulous. By the Bathurst, New
Brunswick is where I live and it is in Canada. Thanks so much.
Don
From: <Mary_...@tvo.org>
Subject: Re: John Morrison and Isabel Ketney
Date: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:27 PM
Mary_...@tvo.org
Apr 18, 2006, 8:41:23 PM4/18/06
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However, there is also a New Brunswick in NJ.
M.
Toronto
Hugh Watkins
Apr 19, 2006, 3:12:43 AM4/19/06
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Mary_...@tvo.org wrote:
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?
Results 1-6 of 6
Name Birth/Christening Death/Burial Database Order
record? Other
Matches
Date Place Date Place
Morison, John 17 Mar 1736 Alloa, Clackmannon, Scotland
greendragonfly Census
Father: John Morison Mother: Marjorie Cousin Spouse: Ann Johnston
etc etc
Morrison, John ABT 1731 SCT BEF 20 FEB 1807 prob, Paspebiac, P. Q.,
CND :2848502 Census
Father: Morrison Spouse: Isabel Cattenaugh
the source should be the "Old Parish Registers"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Old+Parish+Registers%22&btnG=Google+Search
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&613
you better check i all against images
Hugh W
Don Morrison
Apr 19, 2006, 3:05:42 PM4/19/06
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We know that Captain John Morrison was working for the Robin Company in
Paspebiac, Quebec., and we also know that some of his children, namely
Helene married to James Robertson, Elizabeth married to John Duncan and
William married to Marie Haché, were all living in Bathurst, New Brunswick,
Canada. We also know that in 1798, James Robertson and his mother-in-law
Isabel Morrison made application for the grant of a lot of land in Bathurst.
We also know that they were granted that land in Bathurst in 1812.
The fact that Isabel Morrison made the application in her name, makes me
think that in 1798 Captain John Morrison was already deceased or else the
application would have been in his name. In my humble opinion, the
information that he died in 1807 in Passiac, New Jersey could simply not be
accurate.
Don
<Mary_...@tvo.org> wrote in message
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Paspebiac, Quebec., and we also know that some of his children, namely
Helene married to James Robertson, Elizabeth married to John Duncan and
William married to Marie Haché, were all living in Bathurst, New Brunswick,
Canada. We also know that in 1798, James Robertson and his mother-in-law
Isabel Morrison made application for the grant of a lot of land in Bathurst.
We also know that they were granted that land in Bathurst in 1812.
The fact that Isabel Morrison made the application in her name, makes me
think that in 1798 Captain John Morrison was already deceased or else the
application would have been in his name. In my humble opinion, the
information that he died in 1807 in Passiac, New Jersey could simply not be
accurate.
Don
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duncanw...@gmail.com
Jul 26, 2012, 4:44:54 PM7/26/12
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On Wednesday, April 19, 2006 3:05:42 PM , Don Morrison wrote:
> We know that Captain John Morrison was working for the Robin Company in
> Paspebiac, Quebec., and we also know that some of his children, namely
> Helene married to James Robertson, Elizabeth married to John Duncan and
> William married to Marie Haché, were all living in Bathurst, New Brunswick,
> Canada. We also know that in 1798, James Robertson and his mother-in-law
> Isabel Morrison made application for the grant of a lot of land in Bathurst.
> We also know that they were granted that land in Bathurst in 1812.
> The fact that Isabel Morrison made the application in her name, makes me
> think that in 1798 Captain John Morrison was already deceased or else the
> application would have been in his name. In my humble opinion, the
> information that he died in 1807 in Passiac, New Jersey could simply not be
> accurate.
> Don
> <Mary_Gordon; wrote in message
> We know that Captain John Morrison was working for the Robin Company in
> Paspebiac, Quebec., and we also know that some of his children, namely
> Helene married to James Robertson, Elizabeth married to John Duncan and
> William married to Marie Haché, were all living in Bathurst, New Brunswick,
> Canada. We also know that in 1798, James Robertson and his mother-in-law
> Isabel Morrison made application for the grant of a lot of land in Bathurst.
> We also know that they were granted that land in Bathurst in 1812.
> The fact that Isabel Morrison made the application in her name, makes me
> think that in 1798 Captain John Morrison was already deceased or else the
> application would have been in his name. In my humble opinion, the
> information that he died in 1807 in Passiac, New Jersey could simply not be
> accurate.
> Don
>
> > Don, there is an entry in the One World Tree thingy on Ancestry that
> > says Isobel was born in Scotland about 1735 and died in 1836 in West
> > Bathurst, New Brunswick - which I think must be the one in New Jersey.
> > Husband John was born March 17 1736 in Alloa, Clackmannon, and died in
> > 1807 in Passaic - only Passaic I know about is in NJ. Marriage is given
> > as about 1760, and may have been in Scotland as children are given as
> > Helen (1763), Elizabeth (1769), John 3 March 1774, William 1776, and
> > James 1784. It suggests John Jr. was born in Clackmannon.
> >
> > Zero idea if this is at all accurate.
> >
> > M,
> >
Hi, just stumbled across this doing gen. searches. I'm on the line from John Duncan who married Elizabeth Morrison in 1790. I have been unable to find any birth marriage death records for John Morrison or Isabelle Ketney to confirm information appearing on the net. John Morrison does not appear in the lists of scottish immigrants to Canada during that period and there is a Samuel and John who moved to Nova Scotia from the New Hampshire Morrison family line. There is a Morrison line written in text with research indicating a Morrison family which immigrated from scotland to ireland to New Hampshire, pre 'united states'. In the research a John Morrison is lost to the researcher to u/k location. There are so many common names throughout that period of history that without confirmation of records there is no certainty of who is who from where. My John Duncan came in 1773 and lived in Restigouche. He met Elizabeth in Nepisiquit (now Bathurst) New Brunswick. They traveled (supposedly) to Miramichi to be married by a protestant minister. They returned to settle in John Duncans area of Restigouche which at that time had undefined bordering with quebec along the Restigouche River, near Campbelton. These travels occurred before the current borders we know for the U.S. and provincial borders seen today. Paspebiac for instance was Quebec - Gaspe coast. If anyone has access to accurate records could you please send me some? or direct me to a source. I do not belong to ancestry.com and while I was I could not find these records. I have a record of marriage, baptism for John Morrison Jr. who married in 1809 with John Morrison and Isabelle Ketney being named as the grooms parents in Catholic Church record, which also appeared to be a conversion to the church which resulted in some of his children already born being baptised. If anyone has confirmed data please, I beg of you, let me know. Thanks!!
paul c
Jul 30, 2012, 11:00:11 PM7/30/12
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On 26/07/2012 1:44 PM, duncanw...@gmail.com wrote:
> The fact that Isabel Morrison made the application in her name, makes me
>> think that in 1798 Captain John Morrison was already deceased or else the
>> application would have been in his name. In my humble opinion, the
>> information that he died in 1807 in Passiac, New Jersey could simply not be
>> accurate.
I've seen petitions, albeit in Upper Canada, from around the same time,
> The fact that Isabel Morrison made the application in her name, makes me
>> think that in 1798 Captain John Morrison was already deceased or else the
>> application would have been in his name. In my humble opinion, the
>> information that he died in 1807 in Passiac, New Jersey could simply not be
>> accurate.
where a wife whose husband was still alive, applied on the grounds of
her father's military service. At least in UC at that time, children of
former soldiers could apply for their own grants. Sometimes one has to
read the petition carefully to see this.
But I'm just guessing since I gather that by 1807 New Brunswick had been
split from the Province of Nova Scotia and was a colony in its own
right, with its own governor and legislative council (appointed I
presume, like the councils in the three other colonies).
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