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> Does anyone know how I could obtain a premium username and/or password
> for this website: http://www.ancestry.com/ I am a volunteer genealogist
> trying to help people and cannot afford this service on my own. I have
> helped nearly a 100 people find their heritage.
Luckily, most libraries, family history centers and historical societies
offer plenty of records for free. Why do you want to steal stuff that's
free somewhere else?
ANGELA
Without the sarcasm issued forth by some of the OTHER posters, who took the
opportunity to label you as a thief, beggar, liar, etc. simply because you
asked for free access to an online service that costs a paltry, nominal fee, I
will offer you MY logon and password. Obviously those people never considered
whether anyone who owned a computer and payed for Internet access, could not
afford the minimal $1.44 per week (about .20 per day) before they replied so
viciously. I did consider this, which is why I'll give you my logon in the
interest of "sharing". If we ALL will share my logon and password, then think
of the collective money we will save! Of course, Ancestry.com will probably
fail to exist, but by then we'll all have the data we need and who cares what
happens to the "other guy"...that shut in who can't travel to get his data, who
paid his dues without complaint. No, in the interest of sharing here then are
my logon and passwords. Feel free to spread them around, share them!
(PS..remember to type them in exactly as shown and use UPPER CASE letters)
logon (WHATAREYOUANIDIOT?)
password (GETREAL)
>logon (WHATAREYOUANIDIOT?)
>password (GETREAL)
No, he's just another one of those people who thinks he shouldn't have
to pay just because everyone else does - he probably has one of those
illegal boxes to get free cable service too. What the heck, all big
companies deserve to be ripped off, right? They should be offering
their goods and services free...
Yeah, and I bet this guy tells his boss he shouldn't have to work for
his paycheck, either. m.p.
Can anyone give me any information on this question or point me in a direction
where I could find some answers
====================
Hello!
My name is: Claude J: Violette. I live in northern Québec Canada. And like
all the others Violette’s in North America I am a decendent of Charles
Violette who landed in Louisbourg Nova Scotia in 1749 from Rochefort France
aboard the L'Intrepide de Rochefort which was part of a 13 ship convoy. He
was married to Marie David and they originated from the Charentes region
probably the town of Saintes.
I sent in a query to this web site;
<http://www.traceit.com/continue.html >
When I did a search for the name Violette I got a blank. But I remembered that
I had seen the name spelled with no "te" at the end on some of the
genealogical data. So when I searched for the name "Violet" and I got the
following message:
"The Origin of VIOLET
- sample excerpts from the VIOLET history: The very first record of the family
name VIOLET was found in Kent , which is located in England. The VIOLET family
traces their ancestral roots back to Anglo Saxon origin before the year 1100.
From here they branched and migrated, gaining prosperity as a notable family
of England and later other countries. AND Yes, there is a coat of arms
recorded for this family name.”
What I am trying to find out is this; Is the 1100 Violet family in Kent
county in Britain the same family as the Violette family found later in the
province of Charente in France?
Any help or leads on this would be greatly appreciated
Claude J: Violette
viol...@citenet.net writes:
>
>I sent in a query to this web site;
>
><http://www.traceit.com/continue.html >
Oh yes. The site which promises to send you the coat of arms for
YOUR family (surname)... more like *A* person or family having the
same surname as yours, and perhaps not even related going back 20
generations. (assuming the surname was even present 20 generations
in the past.)
>When I did a search for the name Violette I got a blank. But I remembered that
>I had seen the name spelled with no "te" at the end on some of the
>genealogical data. So when I searched for the name "Violet" and I got the
>following message:
Since I'm not up on French, I only mention this as unspecific, but if in
that language spoken at the place of origin, the SOUND of the surname can
be phonetically (or even near phonetically) spelled in another manner than
the way you know it to be spelled, you might want to consider the
misspelling a possibility if you find that spelling in the region.
I should have checked Violette when I was over on Babelfish, but if my
guess is correct, it is the French word for the color simulating the color
near purple that some of us call violet, is that correct? I see no reason
why there can't be two such families in the world in different regions of
Europe at the time surnames were handed out, who's cheeks were so rosy
red that they were almost purple and the other townsfolk decided to name
them for that attribute. Just like all the different cooks in the world
who got the name Cook/Koch.
I'm sure you'll find many Cooks in America who's origins were Koch
(pronounced Cook unless you're an ex-mayor of New York) yet to keep
their name pronounced properly they changed the spelling to the English
form Cook in order to keep folks from calling them Kotch. Keeping this
in mind, even if you retained the French spelling Violette, you may come
across Violet ancestries assembled by your distant cousins who used the
name as they knew it after their gg grandparents americanized it.
>"The Origin of VIOLET
>- sample excerpts from the VIOLET history: The very first record of the family
>name VIOLET was found in Kent , which is located in England. The VIOLET family
>traces their ancestral roots back to Anglo Saxon origin before the year 1100.
>From here they branched and migrated, gaining prosperity as a notable family
>of England and later other countries. AND Yes, there is a coat of arms
>recorded for this family name.”
So from this, I am to believe that the entire line of purple cheeked
people originated from a single family in Kent, England? I'd bet some
of my roots trace to them to as my cheeks turn quite purple when out in
the cold for a while.
>What I am trying to find out is this; Is the 1100 Violet family in Kent
>county in Britain the same family as the Violette family found later in the
>province of Charente in France?
England had the family BLACK... Germany had the family Schwartz
England had Young, Germany had Jung
England had Farmer, Germany had Ackerman
England had Carpenter, Germany had Zimmerman...
etc, etc, etc.
It's possible perhaps, as there are Celtic names appearing in
Germany throughout the ages, and people did travel even back then,
but personally, I feel that it's more likely that the name came
from two separate families named for similar attributes.
The following are several attribute surnames (jobs and appearances)
from the same site with their selected place of origin:
The "baker" family name originated in Durham , located in Border
The "becker" family name originated in Augsburg , located in Bavaria.
Keep in mind that the implication is that while people in Durham, England
and in Augsburg, Bavaria named one each of their local families after
their occupation of baker, NOWHERE in either of those countries was
any other family named after the same occupation.
The "cook" family name originated in Essex , located in England. This
The "koch" family name originated in Bavaria , located in Bavaria.
Ditto with the cooks. Only one in England and one in Bavaria. Every
other cook had to chose a name like Second National Cook or perhaps
slicer or dicer... or "Das Mann mit der grosse knife und hot kettle".
The "zimmermann" family name originated in Prussia , located in
The "carpenter" family name originated in Suffolk , located in
And we all know that the name Carpenter dates back before Suffolk. It
is written in the bible... "THE carpenter":
Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James,
and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us?
The "ackermann" family name originated in Amsterdam , located in the
The "farmer" family name originated in Essex , located in England.
The very early roots of AgriBiz. Perhaps you can also trace
the DOW family back to one of these lines.
The "black" family name originated in Lincolnshire , located in
The "schwartz" family name originated in Thuringia , located in
And then there was Brown for the second family wanting the surname,
Megablack, grosserschwartz, Tanmann, Schwartzmann and a few other
standbys for those not first to grab the name.
The "little" family name originated in Lanarkshire , located in the
The "kleine" family name originated in Rhineland , located in Germany.
The "small" family name originated in Renfrewshire , located in the
The "pettit" family name originated in Bourgogne , located in France.
The "petit" family name originated in Bourgogne , located in France.
The "wenig" family name originated in Bavaria , located in Bavaria.
Then there was Littleman, Kleinemann, Short, Tiny, Dwarf, and once
those were used up, the small or little combined with another attribute
of the head of household... but those lines didn't probagate too well
as the males of those lines eventually started to suffer from an
inferiority complex.
The "big" family name originated in Essex , located in England. This
The "grosser" family name originated in Bavaria , located in Bavaria.
The "grosse" family name originated in Norfolk , located in England.
One has to wonder why these lines didn't probagate all that well since
logic would dictate that if the smallmen had few offspring due to their
names, then the bigmen would have many. Our indepth research has
uncovered that while the bigmen didn't have an inferiority complex, the
women went running away when they heard their surname.
>Any help or leads on this would be greatly appreciated
Seriously, you probably want to stay away from the English origin
surname (unless you sometime actually find REAL clues pointing you
in that direction) and stick with the french region (no matter what
the spelling.)
Mike Maxfield
[of which one surname origin site says it originates from Machesfield
in Scotland.... whatever.]
--
tw...@io.com
If you wish to obtain passwords in order to retrieve priviledged
information without paying, should instruct their browser to search
for 'illegal' + 'password' + 'hacker' = 'fraudulant' + 'cheat'
These are business enterprises selling products and services.
Why should they provide their 'goods' to anyone just so they can go and
'do something' free for someone.
It's almost as bad a saying...'get it from the government', it's free!!
I hope this was 'tongue in cheek'! If not, I.....@#$%^&*.
If it's serious, why not hold out your hand or cup or cap on a street
corner and tell them you're trying to 'find your family'. Some of the
softies with no brains will help. Maybe take you only a day or two if
you land on the right street corner. Maybe consider a nice sign which
is really 'eye catching'. Just 'mumble' when spoken to with no clear
sentences. Don't look them in the eye. Sniff a lot.
I see it work all the time.
'sigh'
Lee
=====================================================================
> Hummmmmmmmmm, why not go 'whole hog' and ask Chrysler for new wheels,
> Apple for a new computer, a new cell phone from Nokia, and on & on...
>
> These are business enterprises selling products and services.
>
> Why should they provide their 'goods' to anyone just so they can go
and
> 'do something' free for someone.
>
> It's almost as bad a saying...'get it from the government', it's
free!!
>
> I hope this was 'tongue in cheek'! If not, I.....@#$%^&*.
>
> If it's serious, why not hold out your hand or cup or cap on a street
> corner and tell them you're trying to 'find your family'. Some of the
> softies with no brains will help. Maybe take you only a day or two if
> you land on the right street corner. Maybe consider a nice sign which
> is really 'eye catching'. Just 'mumble' when spoken to with no clear
> sentences. Don't look them in the eye. Sniff a lot.
>
> I see it work all the time.
>
> 'sigh'
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PLEASE NOTE: lwi...@earthlink.net Lee Widner has posted this vitriolic
response about the request for Ancestry.com username and password to me
in error. I am NOT the author of the begging post.
M E
What I am trying to find out is this; Is the 1100 Violet family in Kent
county in Britain the same family as the Violette family found later in the
province of Charente in France?
I would assume your roots are in France, based on the story you've told.
You might
also try the newsgroup soc. genealogy.french and see what responses you get
there.
Although much of it is in French, there are postings in English. If you need
help
with French, mine is pretty good. The whole white pages for France is online
in case you want to look for other Violettes. I always go in via the
yellowpages
and follow the link to the white pages. The yellowpages are at:
http://www.pagesjaunes.fr I haven't tried looking for French genealogical
information,
since that's not part of my heritage, although that's the second language I
speak.
Christine Sorenson
My name is: Claude J: Violette. I live in northern Québec Canada. And like
all the others Violette’s in North America I am a decendent of Charles
Violette who landed in Louisbourg Nova Scotia in 1749 from Rochefort France
aboard the L'Intrepide de Rochefort which was part of a 13 ship convoy. He
was married to Marie David and they originated from the Charentes region
probably the town of Saintes.
I sent in a query to this web site;
<http://www.traceit.com/continue.html >
When I did a search for the name Violette I got a blank. But I remembered that
I had seen the name spelled with no "te" at the end on some of the
genealogical data. So when I searched for the name "Violet" and I got the
following message:
"The Origin of VIOLET
- sample excerpts from the VIOLET history: The very first record of the family
name VIOLET was found in Kent , which is located in England. The VIOLET family
traces their ancestral roots back to Anglo Saxon origin before the year 1100.
From here they branched and migrated, gaining prosperity as a notable family
of England and later other countries. AND Yes, there is a coat of arms
recorded for this family name.”
What I am trying to find out is this; Is the 1100 Violet family in Kent
county in Britain the same family as the Violette family found later in the
province of Charente in France?
Any help or leads on this would be greatly appreciated
Claude J: Violette
Maybe it is as they say, but I have to wonder.........
Sheila
Claude Violette wrote in message <39F768C3...@citenet.net>...