Which Jane Sandercock married a Bastard?
Steve Hayes
Bastard in the Bodmin registration district (possibly in Cardinham).
I can think of two possible candidates:
1. Jane Sandercock, daughter of Joseph Sandercock and Sarah Rennals, born
about 1847. I could not find her on the 1881 census.
2. Jane Sandercock, daughter of Thomas Sandercock and Mary Hill, born
about 1846. In the 1881 census she was unmarried, aged 33, living with her
widowed mother at St Tudy.
A Jane Sandercock, aged 37, died in Bodmin registration district in the
March Quarter of 1885. This may have been one of these Janes, or may have
been someone else altogether (a Jane who married a Sandercock, for
example).
If anyone has access to the relevant registers, would it be possible to
look up the Bastard-Sandercock marriage to see what the parties' father's
names were?
That might help to see which Jane it was.
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The Chief
> In the Sept Quarter of 1881 a Jane Sandercock apparently married a Richard
> Bastard in the Bodmin registration district (possibly in Cardinham).
>
> I can think of two possible candidates:
>
> 1. Jane Sandercock, daughter of Joseph Sandercock and Sarah Rennals, born
> about 1847. I could not find her on the 1881 census.
>
> 2. Jane Sandercock, daughter of Thomas Sandercock and Mary Hill, born
> about 1846. In the 1881 census she was unmarried, aged 33, living with her
> widowed mother at St Tudy.
>
> A Jane Sandercock, aged 37, died in Bodmin registration district in the
> March Quarter of 1885. This may have been one of these Janes, or may have
> been someone else altogether (a Jane who married a Sandercock, for
> example).
>
> If anyone has access to the relevant registers, would it be possible to
> look up the Bastard-Sandercock marriage to see what the parties' father's
> names were?
>
> That might help to see which Jane it was.
>
> --
> Steve Hayes
Given the sheer number of bastards in England, I should think this a
hopeless quest.
Regards,
The Chief
Steve Hayes
<roy.st...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>On 28 Oct 2009 at 8:36, Steve Hayes wrote:
>
>> In the Sept Quarter of 1881 a Jane Sandercock apparently married a
>> Richard Bastard in the Bodmin registration district (possibly in
>> Cardinham).
>>
>> I can think of two possible candidates:
>>
>> 1. Jane Sandercock, daughter of Joseph Sandercock and Sarah Rennals,
>> born about 1847. I could not find her on the 1881 census.
>>
>> 2. Jane Sandercock, daughter of Thomas Sandercock and Mary Hill, born
>> about 1846. In the 1881 census she was unmarried, aged 33, living with
>> her widowed mother at St Tudy.
>>
>> A Jane Sandercock, aged 37, died in Bodmin registration district in
>> the March Quarter of 1885. This may have been one of these Janes, or
>> may have been someone else altogether (a Jane who married a
>> Sandercock, for example).
>>
>> If anyone has access to the relevant registers, would it be possible
>> to look up the Bastard-Sandercock marriage to see what the parties'
>> father's names were?
>>
>> That might help to see which Jane it was. >
>
>You don't need to see the marriage certificate to at least tell you who Richard's
>parents were. I see from FreeBMD that his full name was Richard Vivian Bastard and
>there was only one man of that name in the whole country in the 1881 census, living
>with his parents at Plympton St Mary.
<snip>
>Jane could not have died in 1885 since she appears in the 1891 census at Cornwood
>with Richardm her husband. She was aged 44, born circa 1847 at Bodmin, and they
>had two children, a daughter aged 8 and a son of four.
>
>Unfortunately, FreeBMD has three Jane Sandercocks all born at Bodmin around the
>same time, one in the March quarter of 1846, another in the June quarter of 1847 and
>a third, Jane Willcock Sandercock, in the Sep quarter of 1847.
>
>However, did you not notice that the Jane Sandercock who was 33 and living with her
>widowed mother Mary in 1881 also had in the same household a woman lodger, aged
>82, called Mary Bastard? Isn't it possible this was a relative of Richard's? In 1881
>Jane's birth place is given as Cardynham [sic, the modern version appears to be
>Cardinham] which was very probably in Bodmin registration district.
But this is where the marriage register entry proves to be the clincher, and
relying on oblique clues can be misleading:
On 3 Nov 2009 at 17:03, David Coppin wrote (in the Sandercock forum):
> I found the marriage at St Winnow.
>
> 13 August 1881, married at St Nectan's chapel, St Winnow Parish (Church of
> England): Richard Vivian Bastard, age 32, bachelor, labourer, living at
> Cornwood, Devon, son of Henry Bastard, labourer; to Jane Sandercock, age 34,
> spinster, living at Westlodge, St Winnow, daughter of Joseph Sandercock,
> labourer. Both signed the register. Witnesses were Wm McLean and Elizabeth
> Sandercock. This Elizabeth is presumably her sister, born in 1850.
>
> So the widow Bastard at St Tudy in 1881 is a misleading red-herring. The Jane
> Sandercock up there is certainly the daughter of Thomas Sandercock and Mary
> Hill, but is NOT the Jane who married Richard Bastard. So although it is
> correct that Jane at St Tudy in 1881 is the daughter of Thomas and Mary, the
> lady who married Richard Bastard is definitely Jane, born at Cardinham in
> 1847, the daughter of Joseph Sandercock and Sarah Renals (Runnalls)
>
> David Coppin
Anyway, thanks to everyone who helped, especially Roy and David.
Steve Hayes
>In the Sept Quarter of 1881 a Jane Sandercock apparently married a Richard
>Bastard in the Bodmin registration district (possibly in Cardinham).
>
>I can think of two possible candidates:
>
>1. Jane Sandercock, daughter of Joseph Sandercock and Sarah Rennals, born
>about 1847. I could not find her on the 1881 census.
>
>2. Jane Sandercock, daughter of Thomas Sandercock and Mary Hill, born
>about 1846. In the 1881 census she was unmarried, aged 33, living with her
>widowed mother at St Tudy.
>
>A Jane Sandercock, aged 37, died in Bodmin registration district in the
>March Quarter of 1885. This may have been one of these Janes, or may have
>been someone else altogether (a Jane who married a Sandercock, for
>example).
>
>If anyone has access to the relevant registers, would it be possible to
>look up the Bastard-Sandercock marriage to see what the parties' father's
>names were?
>
>That might help to see which Jane it was.
And, after correspondence in various forums this seems to be the final sorting
out of the three Jane Sandercocks born in Cardinham in 1846-47
Thanks to everyone who helped.
Family History System 4 Nov 2009
Merged Group Reports
NAME: SANDERCOCK, Jane, Born ??? 1847, Died ???; FATHER:
SANDERCOCK, Joseph, Born Feb 1807, Died ??? 1868 at age 60;
MOTHER: RENALLS, Sarah, Born ??? 1813, Died ???
CHILDREN:
1. F BASTARD, Fanny, born ??? 1883 in Cornwood, DEV, ENG, died
???
2. M BASTARD, Charles, born ??? 1887 in Cornwood, DEV, ENG,
died ???
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
NAME: SANDERCOCK, Jane Wellcock, Born ??? 1848 in Cardinham, CON,
ENG, Died ???; FATHER: SANDERCOCK, Joseph, Born Jul 1820, Died
???; MOTHER: WILCOCK, Susanna, Born ??? 1818, Died ???; Seems
not to have married. Was a laundress, living at Padstow with
her widowed mother.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
NAME: SANDERCOCK, Jane, Born ??? 1846 in Cardinham, CON, ENG,
Died Feb 1885 in Cornwall, England at age 39; FATHER:
SANDERCOCK, Thomas, Born Sep 1798, Died Jun 1866 at age 67;
MOTHER: HILL, Mary, Born ??? 1806, Died ???
To summarise:
Jane dau of Joseph & Sarah married Bastard & lived in Devon
Jane dau of Joseph & Susanna never married, lived with mum in Padstow
Jane dau of Thomas & Mary died unmarried in 1885
QED
Isn't sharing info through computer forums marvellous?
--
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