I am interested in hearing from anyone who uses this term, or has heard
it being used and can give me the history of the word.
Thank you.
Loretta
If you would have used it in a sentence it might make it a little easier,
but I assume you mean something like "you 'dasn't' do that." Translated it
means "you does not do that." Of course proper grammer would be "you do
not do that."
I'm not a language expert so I can't give you much of an opinion other
than my meager translation. I've heard it mostly in the South, used by
both blacks and whites.
John "I dasn't use slang" Gross confe...@worldnet.att.net
I always thought it was a "Pennsylvania Dutch" term.
jim
(thoughJohn was brave enough to use it in his sig, I dasn't use it in
mine)
<ra...@oregoncoast.com> wrote:
> My grandfather was born in NW Indiana (LaPorte County) and moved to the
> West Coast in 1906. I remember him using the term "you dasn't" to warn
> me against misbehavior when I was a small child. I have never heard
> anyone else use the word.
With names like:
Dubreuil,Durbur, Eggers, Elbrecht, Herchenroder,
Martens,Minehan,Prier, Siems, Whetmath and Witt,
at least I'm not swamped with leads. :-)
RA>My grandfather was born in NW Indiana (LaPorte County) and moved to the
RA>West Coast in 1906. I remember him using the term "you dasn't" to warn
RA>me against misbehavior when I was a small child. I have never heard
RA>anyone else use the word.
RA>I am interested in hearing from anyone who uses this term, or has heard
RA>it being used and can give me the history of the word.
RA>Thank you.
RA>Loretta
Hi Loretta,
My grandparents used to use that term also. It was a contraction
for "dare not". I never did understand how the "s" got into it.
Boli
My grandfather, also born in Indiana (SW), used this same term.
However, he moved his family to central Texas in 1895 and I heard the
term many times (obviously later than that) from several of the older
persons - some of whom were born and raised in Texas. I have not heard
it in many years.
I used to hear "dasn't" while I was growing up in Wisconsin in the
1940's. (Predominantly German immigrant city).
Bob P.
I think you might be barking up the wrong tree there. I think it's more
likely a contraction of the verb 'to dare' - I dare, you dare not
(daren't), thou darest not (dares' n't) ...
>
>I'm not a language expert so I can't give you much of an opinion other
>than my meager translation. I've heard it mostly in the South, used by
>both blacks and whites.
>
>
>John "I dasn't use slang" Gross confe...@worldnet.att.net
>
--
AJH
email: A...@starlt.demon.co.uk
Bob Leutner
Iowa City IA
On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
> From upstate NY, I've heard folks raised in the 30's use it. I
> always understood it to be a contraction for 'dare not'. A 'dastard'
> is a coward, so I could be correct. Then again, I'm just guessing....
>
> jim
> (thoughJohn was brave enough to use it in his sig, I dasn't use it in
> mine)
>
> <ra...@oregoncoast.com> wrote:
>
> > My grandfather was born in NW Indiana (LaPorte County) and moved to the
> > West Coast in 1906. I remember him using the term "you dasn't" to warn
> > me against misbehavior when I was a small child. I have never heard
> > anyone else use the word.
>
>
>
Bob Leutner
Iowa City IA
On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Robert J Pritzl wrote:
> Helen Ruth wrote:
> >
> > ra...@oregoncoast.com wrote:
> > >
> > > My grandfather was born in NW Indiana (LaPorte County) and moved to the
> > > West Coast in 1906. I remember him using the term "you dasn't" to warn
> > My grandfather, also born in Indiana (SW), used this same term.
My grandfather also used the word - it meant "shouldn't" (possibly a
short form of "dare not"). Example, "I suppose we dassn't plow that
north field tomorrow; it looks as if it might rain." He was from central
Illinois; his father had walked to Illinois from Kentucky at the age of
twelve. Grandpa was born in the 1860s in Illinois.
--
Dee Dege (dd...@winternet.com)
------------------------------
Oh, the comfort, the inexpressible comfort of feeling safe with a person;
having neither to weigh thoughts nor measure words, but to pour them all
out, just as they are, chaff and grain together, knowing that a faithful
hand will take and sift them, keep what is worth keeping, and then, with
the breath of kindness, blow the rest away . --George Eliot
>My grandfather was born in NW Indiana (LaPorte County) and moved to the
>West Coast in 1906. I remember him using the term "you dasn't" to warn
>me against misbehavior when I was a small child. I have never heard
>anyone else use the word.
>
>I am interested in hearing from anyone who uses this term, or has heard
>it being used and can give me the history of the word.
Have heard it used in New England and the Maritimes a long time ago.
It was always in the context of "dare not". In your example, "Don't
you dare do that".
Terry Tiernan
ter...@mindspring.com
: RA>My grandfather was born in NW Indiana (LaPorte County) and moved to the
: RA>West Coast in 1906. I remember him using the term "you dasn't" to warn
: RA>me against misbehavior when I was a small child. I have never heard
: RA>anyone else use the word.
: Hi Loretta,
: My grandparents used to use that term also. It was a contraction
: for "dare not". I never did understand how the "s" got into it.
: Bol
That's right - it is "dares not" --- roughly translates
to "Don't you dare"
Aloha - Ginny
Wes Jackson
Scarborough Ontario
KA> * From: Kate <KA...@SoCA.com>
KA> * Reply-To: KA...@SoCA.com
KA>ra...@oregoncoast.com wrote:
KA>>
KA>> My grandfather was born in NW Indiana (LaPorte County) and moved to the
KA>> West Coast in 1906. I remember him using the term "you dasn't" to warn
KA>> me against misbehavior when I was a small child. I have never heard
KA>> anyone else use the word.
KA>>
KA>> I am interested in hearing from anyone who uses this term, or has heard
KA>> it being used and can give me the history of the word.
KA>>
KA>> Thank you.
KA>>
KA>> Loretta
KA>I have always heard it as "daresn't" meaning you dare not do something.
KA>So if you were climbing that fence that you were many times told not to
KA>do they would say "You daresn't climb that fence."
KA> I always thought it was a "Pennsylvania Dutch" term.
I've heard it in the Eastern Panhandle of WV mid-1950s to present.
Dassn't means "dare not" there.
I have also seen it in some British novels, usually in those passages
involving the locals in one shire or the next (as opposed to the
Ox-Bridge set). Authors include Christie, Heyer, and Marsh.
* OLX 2.1 TD * Cheryl_...@cpafug.blkcat.com
I hate to confuse the issue (really, I don't). In the South, I've heard
both dasn't and daren't, and read both terms in Southern literature for
many, many years. That makes me suspect that it's
English/Irish/Scottish in origin.
austin smith
Neptune Beach, FL
Ka> ra...@oregoncoast.com wrote:
>
> My grandfather was born in NW Indiana (LaPorte County) and moved to the
> West Coast in 1906. I remember him using the term "you dasn't" to warn
> me against misbehavior when I was a small child. I have never heard
> anyone else use the word.
>
> I am interested in hearing from anyone who uses this term, or has heard
> it being used and can give me the history of the word.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Loretta
Ka> I have always heard it as "daresn't" meaning you dare not do
Ka> something. So if you were climbing that fence that you were many times
Ka> told not to do they would say "You daresn't climb that fence."
Ka> I always thought it was a "Pennsylvania Dutch" term.
My grandmother used it and she was a Cape Cod Yankee descended from
the Pilgrims.
... Bill Watts ex-Cape Codder bill....@filebank.cts.com
CH>KA> * From: Kate <KA...@SoCA.com>
CH>KA> * Reply-To: KA...@SoCA.com
CH>KA>ra...@oregoncoast.com wrote:
CH>KA>>
CH>KA>> My grandfather was born in NW Indiana (LaPorte County) and moved to the
CH>KA>> West Coast in 1906. I remember him using the term "you dasn't" to warn
CH>KA>> me against misbehavior when I was a small child. I have never heard
CH>KA>> anyone else use the word.
CH>KA>>
CH>KA>> I am interested in hearing from anyone who uses this term, or has heard
CH>KA>> it being used and can give me the history of the word.
CH>KA>>
CH>KA>> Thank you.
CH>KA>>
CH>KA>> Loretta
CH>KA>I have always heard it as "daresn't" meaning you dare not do something.
CH>KA>So if you were climbing that fence that you were many times told not to
CH>KA>do they would say "You daresn't climb that fence."
CH>KA> I always thought it was a "Pennsylvania Dutch" term.
CH>I've heard it in the Eastern Panhandle of WV mid-1950s to present.
CH>Dassn't means "dare not" there.
CH>I have also seen it in some British novels, usually in those passages
CH>involving the locals in one shire or the next (as opposed to the
CH>Ox-Bridge set). Authors include Christie, Heyer, and Marsh.
CH> * OLX 2.1 TD * Cheryl_...@cpafug.blkcat.com
Hi Cheryl,
Grandpa was of Pennsylvania Dutch descant, also English of PA. Thanks
for your reply.
Loretta
>I couldn't help but notice your last name...
>My Hurst ancestors are from the south, and I currently live in the
>Inland Empire
And my father was born in Sherman, Chautauqua Co., NY, and perhaps we
have some connections in Ripley and that area (names: Gifford, Hunt,
Wilcox, Palmer, Ireland).
Paul Gifford
My parents came from England in the 1880s, and although I wasn't born until
the '30s the term "dasn't" was used regularly in our family, both by my
parents and my grandparents. The latter were Welsh. As a matter of fact,
I've even used it myself in recent years without realizing it......
We lived in Ontario, Canada.
The meaning was the same as that given by Kate.
Fred Lawson Pincourt, Quebec fla...@CAM.ORG
> > My grandfather was born in NW Indiana (LaPorte County) and moved to
the
> > West Coast in 1906. I remember him using the term "you dasn't" to
warn
> > me against misbehavior when I was a small child. I have never heard
> > anyone else use the word.
> Ka> I have always heard it as "daresn't" meaning you dare not do
> Ka> something. So if you were climbing that fence that you were many
times
> Ka> told not to do they would say "You daresn't climb that fence."
I have to agree with "dasn't" being the equivalent of "dare not". This
is how my mother used "dasn't" when I was growing up in Oklahoma, when
she was in a mood to slip into a silly mood (she takes pride in her
'proper' use of the English language!).
My grandmother, full German, born in Chicago, also said desn't do
that, all the time. Her mother said it too, but she came to Chicago
from Eastern Germany. I always thought it was spelled desn't, because
that the sound she made when she said it.
I have to tell you all, this is my first letter to this newsgroup, and
I am amazed at all the work you all put into this. I tried the
library in Salt Lake City, once, and that took me all day. You are
probably really prepared people.
Happy New Year To All, Stelle