Can Gedcom files be imported into any Vector drawing programs?
T McDonald
Just wondering if there is any way to open a Gedcom file using a vector
drawing/drafting program such as Corel Draw, Autocad, Adobe illustrator
etc.?
TIA
Kerry Raymond
> Just wondering if there is any way to open a Gedcom file using a vector
> drawing/drafting program such as Corel Draw, Autocad, Adobe illustrator
> etc.?
Highly unlikely as GEDCOM format is not a drawing format, and does not
contain any rendering information whatsoever.
Indeed, GEDCOM has been designed by genealogists for genealogy, so it's
unlikely any non-genie software will be able to import it.
Don Nickell
>
> Hiya Genie Gurus,
>
> Just wondering if there is any way to open a Gedcom file using a vector
> drawing/drafting program such as Corel Draw, Autocad, Adobe illustrator
Is this a troll?
Why would you want to bring a text file into a graphics editor?
That's even worse than a nonsequitor! Evidently you've never even looked
at a GEDCOM file.
Tweedie, David [SKY:7L23:EXCH]
read a GEDCOM file and then construct a family tree drawing which could then be
altered using the drawing packages graphic utilities and then finally saved as a
true graphic file. Unfortunalty I don't know of any myself that do have that
functionality.
Those of you that are quick to jump down someones throat over such a question should
think before you attack. Just because you do not have the creativity to think such a
thing possible, does not mean that it could not be.
David Tweedie
Derek Broughton
> Hold on. This is not such an unusual question. Any
> drawing package could potentialy
> read a GEDCOM file and then construct a family
> tree drawing which could then be
...
> > T McDonald wrote:
> > >
> > > Hiya Genie Gurus,
> > >
> > > Just wondering if there is any way to open a Gedcom file using a
vector
> > > drawing/drafting program such as Corel Draw, Autocad, Adobe
illustrator
The reaction did seem totally unwarranted.
The real question is, "what do you want to do with it?"
There are numerous programs out there to create HTML from GEDCOMs,
which is probably the simplest way (short of using the original
GEDCOM-creating software) to get a graphical image.
derek
acsblake
"Don Nickell" <dnic...@micron.net> wrote in message
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> T McDonald wrote:
> >
> > Hiya Genie Gurus,
> >
> > Just wondering if there is any way to open a Gedcom file using a vector
> > drawing/drafting program such as Corel Draw, Autocad, Adobe illustrator
>
>
> Why would you want to bring a text file into a graphics editor?
> That's even worse than a nonsequitor! Evidently you've never even looked
> at a GEDCOM file.
I've wondered the same thing myself. We're not all computer literate. I
for one haven't a clue what all the file extensions are in computer
programs. I wouldn't know the difference between a "bak" and a "bat" and
what about all those graphic extensions just to name a few ".iff, .bmp,
.gif, .lbm, .eps, .fpx, .img. .jpg, .pct, .tif" -- what are they?
When people ask a question, don't assume they are a "troll" because their
question seems ridiculous to you. We're not all "computer savvy". I
thought the original posters question made complete sense.
Richard A. Pence
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> My computer is a RiscPC (operating system RISC OS). All such
> computers have a built in vector drawing programme (!Draw).
> The genealogy programme I use is !Family and it has the ability
> to save the family tree database in !Draw, GEDCOM, or the
> normal Report format. I find the vector drawing output very
> useful as, with a colour printer I can
> get a family tree where all males are shown in blue text and all
> females in red.
David:
If your program can export a GEDCOM file, it surely must be able to import
one. Simply import the GEDCOM into !Family and then work its wonders. Direct
import into !Draw is highly unlikely (I would say impossible, but I've been
burned by computer technology too many times <g>) because a GEDCOM file is
merely an ASCII text file.
Regards,
Richard A. Pence, 3211 Adams Ct, Fairfax, VA 22030
Voice 703-591-4243 Fax 703-385-0971
Pence Family History <http://www.pipeline.com/~richardpence/>
Bill M Leagans
tree such as jpg, but there is a way to do it.
For Windows 95/98 users (I haven't tried this with NT/2000). All you have
to have is a printer driver that will allow you to output EMF (Enhanced Meta
File) format as many HP printers do, and a graphics program that will import
EMF, such as my favorite Paint Shop Pro.
Find a printer driver for a wide format printer such as HP's engineering
line and install it. In the drivers properties under spool settings set the
output to EMF instead of RAW. In the properties Pause the printer to keep
the file from disappearing or printing hundreds of pages of garbage on your
printer.
Open your program (any program for which you want a large scale image, not
just genealogy) and print to that printer.
Once done look in your temp folder (C:\temp or C:\Windows\Temp) for a file
called "EMFxxxxx.tmp", where the "x" are numbers or letters. Copy that file
to another folder and change the .tmp to .emf and then use your graphics
program to open it. Now either edit it or save it in another format.
Once done, open the printer folder and double click the printer you used and
delete the held print job.
Your done!
The only drawback is that Paint Shop Pro, and possible other graphics
programs require a lot of memory to display or manipulate EMF files so
before you run out and buy a graphics program see if they have a demo
version you can test with to make sure you have enough memory to handle it.
Bill
T McDonald <m...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> Hiya Genie Gurus,
>
> Just wondering if there is any way to open a Gedcom file using a vector
> drawing/drafting program such as Corel Draw, Autocad, Adobe illustrator
> etc.?
>
> TIA
>
>
Don Nickell
>
> On 5/30/00, 1:33:46 PM, "Tweedie, D" <dav...@americasm01.nt.com> wrote:
>
> > Hold on. This is not such an unusual question. Any
> > drawing package could potentialy
> > read a GEDCOM file and then construct a family
> > tree drawing which could then be
> ...
> > > T McDonald wrote:
> > > > Just wondering if there is any way to open a Gedcom file using a
> vector
>
> The reaction did seem totally unwarranted.
> The real question is, "what do you want to do with it?"
> There are numerous programs out there to create HTML from GEDCOMs,
> which is probably the simplest way (short of using the original
> GEDCOM-creating software) to get a graphical image.
Well, then please educate me. This seems like such a nonsequitoral
question I really can't make heads or tails of it. For one thing I don't
know how you can make any sort of image from:
1 NAME Charles Winters /Bailey/
1 SEX M
1 BIRT
2 DATE 20 MAR 1947
2 PLAC Florence, SC
What would that graphics image look like?
I also can't imagine (short sighted?) what a text formatting program
like GED2HTML has to do with Paint Shop Pro type operations that
controls the appearance of pixles in a grid.
The programs you have mentioned, Corel Draw and GED2HTML, are written to
accept data in a particular format and operate on that data. Certainly
someone could write a program that would read a GEDCOM and make a family
tree out if it, that's done every day, but not by Corel Draw or Paint
Shop Pro.
I'm probably setting myself up to look like a fool, it's happened
before, and will probably happen again. ;=)
Don
David Love
<URL:mailto:dnic...@micron.net> wrote:
> T McDonald wrote:
> >
> > Hiya Genie Gurus,
> >
> > Just wondering if there is any way to open a Gedcom file using a vector
>
> Is this a troll?
>
> Why would you want to bring a text file into a graphics editor?
> That's even worse than a nonsequitor! Evidently you've never even looked
> at a GEDCOM file.
My computer is a RiscPC (operating system RISC OS). All such computers
have a built in vector drawing programme (!Draw). The genealogy
programme I use is !Family and it has the ability to save the family
tree database in !Draw, GEDCOM, or the normal Report format. I find
the vector drawing output very useful as, with a colour printer I can
get a family tree where all males are shown in blue text and all females
in red.
David
--
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It is no excuse if you are neglecting your wife to say it doesn't matter
because she is only a relation by marriage. (Sir Seymour Hicks)
Derek Broughton
> For Windows 95/98 users (I haven't tried this with NT/2000). All you
have
> to have is a printer driver that will allow you to output EMF
(Enhanced Meta
> File) format as many HP printers do, and a graphics program that will
import
> EMF, such as my favorite Paint Shop Pro.
I'm not at all sure that's what he wanted, but it's a very kewl
solution :-)
Another possible solution is to just use cut & paste. Alt-printscreen
(I think, maybe ctrl- or shift-, I'm in Linux right now) copies the
contents of the current window, then you can paste to the graphics
program (most of my graphics programs have an option to "Paste as New
Image" in the Edit menu). Then you have to crop to remove the window
borders. It's probably a little more work than Bill's solution, but
everything's already there on your machine. This will lose more
information than Bill's method, because all you have is a single image
file.
derek
Derek Broughton
> Well, then please educate me. This seems like such a nonsequitoral
> question I really can't make heads or tails of it. For one thing I
don't
> know how you can make any sort of image from:
> 1 NAME Charles Winters /Bailey/
> 1 SEX M
> 1 BIRT
> 2 DATE 20 MAR 1947
> 2 PLAC Florence, SC
> What would that graphics image look like?
> I also can't imagine (short sighted?) what a text formatting program
> like GED2HTML has to do with Paint Shop Pro type operations that
> controls the appearance of pixles in a grid.
I think it's intentionally obtuse to suggest that just because an HTML
file is a text file that it has nothing to do with a graphical image.
Obviously HTML is, in part, a way to describe a graphical image using
text. Of course, it _doesn't_ have anything to do with PaintShop - I
just wanted to know what he wanted to do with the file. If all he wants
is to turn a text file into a graphical image, one of the ged -> html
converters is probably exactly what he wants.
> someone could write a program that would read a GEDCOM and make a
family
> tree out if it, that's done every day, but not by Corel Draw or Paint
> Shop Pro.
And I say why not? Those programs take numerous input formats as it
is, there's strictly speaking no reason they couldn't have a module
that would turn a Gedcom into a graphical tree. I just don't know why
anyone would bother. Any drawing program that has a scripting
language (I don't know drawing programs, but surely there is such a
beast), could be made to read a Gedcom.
derek
William Mills
Richard A. Pence <richar...@pipeline.com> wrote:
...{quote snipped}
>If your program can export a GEDCOM file, it surely must be able to import
>one. Simply import the GEDCOM into !Family and then work its wonders. Direct
>import into !Draw is highly unlikely (I would say impossible, but I've been
>burned by computer technology too many times <g>) because a GEDCOM file is
>merely an ASCII text file.
In fact there are common ASCII text formats for exchanging graphical
information. Postscript is one. For CAD use, there is the Drawing
Interchange File format, used in DXF files. Just as GEDCOM is used
to transfer genealogical databases between programs that use different
internal representation, DXF files exchange CAD data between different
programs.
In answer to the original question, Reunion (for Macintosh) has its
Superchart utility, which outputs very nice charts as a PICT (in
vector rather than bitmap format), which can then be manipulated in a
drawing program.
Bill
Richard A. Pence
news:8h3jnk$8...@elaine38.Stanford.EDU...
> In fact there are common ASCII text formats for exchanging
> graphical information. Postscript is one. For CAD use, there is
> the Drawing Interchange File format, used in DXF files. Just as
> GEDCOM is used to transfer genealogical databases between
> programs that use different internal representation, DXF files
> exchange CAD data between different programs.
> In answer to the original question, Reunion (for Macintosh) has
> its Superchart utility, which outputs very nice charts as a PICT
> (in vector rather than bitmap format), which can then be
> manipulated in a drawing program.
Bill:
Thanks. Learn something new every day.
I think the original poster said his own program (!Family) would do
something similar. The "original question" was something like, "Is there a
drawing/graphics program that will read GEDCOM files?"
I _think_ the answer to that is still No.
Singhals
Or, is this something that only people who understand schematics
and circuit-drawings would want to do?
Cheryl
William Mills wrote:
>
> In article <8h1djc$h3g$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
> Richard A. Pence <richar...@pipeline.com> wrote:
> ...{quote snipped}
> >If your program can export a GEDCOM file, it surely must be able to import
> >one. Simply import the GEDCOM into !Family and then work its wonders. Direct
> >import into !Draw is highly unlikely (I would say impossible, but I've been
> >burned by computer technology too many times <g>) because a GEDCOM file is
> >merely an ASCII text file.
>
Bill M Leagans
that several vetcor programs I've dealt with have the ability to turn
various formats into vector. Some may even have the ability to open or
convert .emf files.
The most notable use for this is to turn large charts into hotspot images
for your web site. Also a poor mans solutions to Adobe Acrobat..;-)
Bill
Derek Broughton <dbrou...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Kevin Dye
> OK, it's my stupid week -- why would you want to do that? (g)
> Or, is this something that only people who understand schematics
> and circuit-drawings would want to do?
Vector graphics have some big advantages over raster graphics (bitmaps).
They tend to take a lot less storage space. They scale smoothly if the user
later wants to change the size of the chart, while bitmaps tend to look
awful after such transformations. Also, with suitable tools, they're easier
to edit if desired.
It seems to me that the merits of vector graphics are widely unfamiliar
today because no such format is standard on MS Windows, so its huge user
base tends to be conditioned to think of graphics exclusively in terms of
bitmaps. On the Macintosh, PICTs have equal status with text as one of the
two data formats that every app is expected to support on the clipboard, so
users of that platform tend to use vector graphics every day, even if some
of them don't realize it. On MS Windows, by contrast, the nearest
equivalent, the WMF (Windows MetaFile) format doesn't seem to have worked
out very well, so it's not widely used.
Of course, now that we're all connected, a platform-independent vector
graphics standard would help more than vendor-specific formats such as PICTs
and WMFs. PostScript fits that bill as a technology (as Bill Mills earlier
mentioned), but it hasn't yet come to be supported pervasively the way PICTs
are on the Mac.
-- Kevin
bali...@gmail.com
> T McDonald wrote:
> >
> > Hiya Genie Gurus,
> >
> > Just wondering if there is any way to open a Gedcom file using a vector
> > drawing/drafting program such as Corel Draw, Autocad, Adobe illustrator
>
> Is this a troll?
>
> Why would you want to bring a text file into a graphics editor?
> That's even worse than a nonsequitor! Evidently you've never even looked
> at a GEDCOM file.
Keith Nuttle
computers, once you talk to them you realize they no very little about
computer basics.
An example is a friend of mine who claims that he does not use an photo
editing program, but edits photos on his Ipad. Until I talked to him I
thought the Ipad used programs (or apps it you prefer). ;-)
The OP question is another example of this phenomena.
While I understand the difference between databases and spreadsheets,
can manage my LAN, and know all PDF files are not the same, there are
some very basic computer things I don't know. I understand about and/or
gates, etc but could never put them together to do a usable task, let
alone set up the electrical circuits to make them work.
I am afraid the level describe above is moving up as computers become
more common. In the future the knowledgeable computer user will not know
what a CPU or RAM is.
--
2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre
Graeme Wall
--
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Steve Hayes
<ra...@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> I am afraid the level describe above is moving up as computers become
>> more common. In the future the knowledgeable computer user will not know
>> what a CPU or RAM is.
>>
>>
>
>I would point out that the original question was posted 18 years ago!
what the OP wants.
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Keith Nuttle
> On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 16:30:19 +0100, Graeme Wall
> <ra...@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> I am afraid the level describe above is moving up as computers become
>>> more common. In the future the knowledgeable computer user will not know
>>> what a CPU or RAM is.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I would point out that the original question was posted 18 years ago!
>
> So perhaps after 18 years someone has developed a program that will do
> what the OP wants.
>
>
read the ascii characters and converted them to vector images. Even if
there is an addon, the vector main program could not read the
gedcom/ascii/text file.