Internet Explorer 7 beta breaks Family Tree Maker 2006

TJ

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May 30, 2006, 7:49:38 PM5/30/06

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Something gets either shut off in the firewall or they dont jive with each
other. I know its IE7 doing it, Once uninstalled it. everything went back
to normal.

Just thought Id give a heads up if you use family tree maker.

Brendan R. Wehrung

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May 31, 2006, 12:59:44 AM5/31/06

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My Internet connection (Netzero) also warns about using IE 7. In your
case, I wonder if FTM is trying to send data to their owners, blocked by
the firewall. This is an ongoing controversey with a lot of companies,
who feel they the right to monitor the use of their software which we pay
to use (not buy, it seems). What's the old adage, a pig getting its snout
under the wall of the tent...?

Brendan

Joe Pessarra

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May 31, 2006, 6:47:01 AM5/31/06

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"Brendan R. Wehrung" <ck...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
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What's the old adage, a pig getting its snout
> under the wall of the tent...?
>
> Brendan
>
>

Believe that the story I heard was about a camel. See the site
http://camelphotos.com/tales_nose.html

Joe in Texas

Hugh Watkins

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May 31, 2006, 6:03:09 PM5/31/06

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Brendan R. Wehrung wrote:

Igaev it 24 hours
and uninstalled

Office 2007 is in beta now

Hugh W

TJ

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May 31, 2006, 8:58:24 PM5/31/06

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ck...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Brendan R. Wehrung) wrote in
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FTM doesnt bother me. Its micro$oft breaking my shit, every time they want
to "Update" their fucked up operating system.

David J Grimshaw

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May 31, 2006, 11:23:34 PM5/31/06

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Sounds like some one wants to try Linux

Dave Hinz

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Jun 1, 2006, 10:03:33 AM6/1/06

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On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:23:34 +1200, David J Grimshaw <hawke_e...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> TJ wrote:

>> FTM doesnt bother me. Its micro$oft breaking my shit, every time they want
>> to "Update" their fucked up operating system.

> Sounds like some one wants to try Linux

Or at a very minimum, firefox. It doesn't have all the hooks into the
OS that make IE able to break other programs like FTM. Faster and far
fewer security problems as well.

getfirefox.com - it's a very simple download and install, will inherit
all your bookmarks and all that if you want too. And that way, some
random MS change to IE won't keep breaking your other apps like you've
just had happen.

Jim

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Jun 1, 2006, 12:27:22 PM6/1/06

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"TJ" <nowayjosehere.com> wrote in message
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What do you expect? They don't call it beta software for no reason.
Jim

Christopher Jahn

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Jun 1, 2006, 7:08:44 PM6/1/06

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"Jim" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in
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I would expect beta software to run poorly. I would NOT expect
beta software to attack other installed programs and interfere
with their operations.

--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html

It's not that they die, but that they die like sheep.

TJ

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Jun 1, 2006, 9:22:34 PM6/1/06

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Christopher Jahn <xj...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns97D5C2C383795xjahn@
216.196.97.136:

> "Jim" <j...@nospam.com> wrote in
> news:KzEfg.89190$H71....@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
>
>>
>> "TJ" <nowayjosehere.com> wrote in message
>> news:127pmgi...@corp.supernews.com...
>>> Something gets either shut off in the firewall or they dont
>>> jive with each other. I know its IE7 doing it, Once
>>> uninstalled it. everything went back to normal.
>>>
>>> Just thought Id give a heads up if you use family tree maker.
>>
>> What do you expect? They don't call it beta software for no
>> reason. Jim
>>
>>
>>
>
> I would expect beta software to run poorly. I would NOT expect
> beta software to attack other installed programs and interfere
> with their operations.
>

It could be FTM fault for all I know. Maybe theyre piggy backing on
sections of Windows that they shouldnt.

But thats for another newsgroup.

Christopher Jahn

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Jun 1, 2006, 9:37:55 PM6/1/06

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TJ <nowayjosehere.com> wrote in
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Probably not. IE is simply too involved in the operating system
for its own good.

--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html

Any man who hates dogs and babies can't be all bad.

David J Grimshaw

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Jun 2, 2006, 12:45:46 AM6/2/06

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Hi,
And while you are downloading Firefox ( Web Browser ) you may as well
download ThunderBird as well( e-mail & news Group ).
The two of them both make your computer less prone to the nasties aimed
at IE or Outlook.

Dave Hinz

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Jun 2, 2006, 10:26:38 AM6/2/06

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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 01:22:34 -0000, TJ <nowayjosehere.com> wrote:
> Christopher Jahn <xj...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns97D5C2C383795xjahn@
> 216.196.97.136:
>

>> I would expect beta software to run poorly. I would NOT expect
>> beta software to attack other installed programs and interfere
>> with their operations.

> It could be FTM fault for all I know. Maybe theyre piggy backing on
> sections of Windows that they shouldnt.

Well, one way or another it's a case of "DLL Hell" which microsoft keeps
promising they'll get away from one of these years. When it was
designed, they decided that shared libraries are just fine, which is OK
as far as it goes. The huge mistake of monumental proportions, was when
Microsoft decided to let a user's programs, overwrite the DLL that came
with the system. Add another one, sure. Replace what's there? Bad,
bad bad bad bad idea. That one design decision is responsible for most
of the application problems where installing A breaks B, or uninstalling
B breaks A, and is also heavily exploited by virus writers.

Unfortunately, Microsoft keeps wanting to stay compatible with older
releases. By maintaining this compatibility, they keep the fundamental
design flaw alive. Maybe this time they'll fix it when they release
Vista, but if IE7 is a peek into the future, this conversation shows
there may not be much reason for that hope.

> But thats for another newsgroup.

Topic drift? _here_? never!

Dave Hinz