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Apr 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM4/7/99

ROOTSWEB REVIEW: Genealogical Data Cooperative News
Vol. 2, No. 14, 7 April 1999. Circulation: 286,000+
(C) 1998-1999 RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative.

Editors: Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG
<RWR-E...@rootsweb.com>

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CONTENTS. News and Notes from RootsWeb (RootsWeb's March
Statistics; Randy Winch Hailed for Brilliant Work; Bob Tillman
Joins RootsWeb Staff; Need Better Internet Access?; International
Internet Genealogical Society (IIGS) April 1999 Newsletter;
RootsWeb Report on TalkSpot; HelpDesk Tips); Connecting through
RootsWeb; Letters to the Editors; Mailing Lists; Web Pages;
USGenWeb Archives Project; USGenWeb Census Project Archives;
Humor; Reprint Policy

TO SUBSCRIBE OR UNSUBSCRIBE, send e-mail that says only SUBSCRIBE
(or UNSUBSCRIBE) to: <Rootsweb-Rev...@rootsweb.com>.

BACK ISSUES OF ROOTSWEB REVIEW are available for download from:
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/>.

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NEWS AND NOTES FROM ROOTSWEB

163,035,217 EMAIL MESSAGES AND A LOT MORE. In March, RootsWeb
supported the following for the Internet genealogical community:

o 4,030 independently authored Web sites.

o 108,887,834 total Web hits:

28,801,459 were HTML pages.
17,209,828 were cgi-bin database searches and such.
62,815,960 were graphics (GIFs, JPEGs, etc.).

o 2,154,058 file downloads from the USGenWeb Archives and
the ROOTS-L Library.

o 6,100 independently operated RootsWeb-hosted mailing lists.

o 163,035,217 pieces of e-mail shipped to our mailing lists.

That's about a 14% increase in traffic just since January.

What folks may not realize is just what those numbers mean. It
takes a huge amount of bandwidth to transfer all these Web pages
and e-mail messages to the Internet, and RootsWeb's monthly
Internet costs have grown from about $10,000 to about $12,000 in
just the last two months.

It also takes about 30 servers (very large computers) to handle
all these Web pages and mailing lists, and RootsWeb is having to
spend $10,000 or more each month adding new servers and upgrading
its older servers to keep up with demand.

No government agency or big corporation pays for RootsWeb: we're
entirely supported by contributions made by users like you. If
you like the support RootsWeb is providing for the genealogical
community and if you want help RootsWeb provide even better
support for the community, please consider supporting us and
becoming a RootsWeb Contributor:

<http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html>

or send e-mail to: <RW-...@rootsweb.com>

RootsWeb's address is: RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative,
P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798. (Please include your
e-mail address on all correspondence and checks.)

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RANDY WINCH HAILED FOR BRILLIANT WORK. Dr. Brian Leverich said of
RootsWeb staffer Randy Winch's recent efforts: "Not only did he
essentially finish building nine servers, but also he did a
series of hardware experiments that showed us how to build
machines significantly faster than our current servers at a
fraction of the cost. That was brilliant work."

* * *

BOB TILLMAN JOINS ROOTSWEB STAFF. Dr. Brian Leverich introduces
new staff member Bob Tillman with this vignette: "Bob's resume
omits one of his more important life experiences -- joining with
another future member of RootsWeb's staff in breaking into and
exploring the steam tunnels under Harvard for fun, glory, and
midnight ice cream. 'Midnight ice cream' derives from the fact
that Lowell House (where we lived) and the university kitchen
were both accessible via the steam tunnels, which meant intrepid
spelunkers could do midnight liberations of the cool stuff for
the benefit of their less courageous peers back at the House.

"Seriously, Bob's resume includes an MBA from Stanford and two
decades of experience on the management teams of high-tech
businesses. He'll be helping RootsWeb move on to a more
businesslike footing and to improve our revenues, which should
make it possible for us even better to serve the genealogical
community."

* * *

NEED BETTER INTERNET ACCESS? From time to time folks ask
RootsWeb if it can provide dialup access to the Internet.
RootsWeb doesn't have the proper equipment or nationwide physical
presence to provide dialups, but various individuals have
recommended that we set up a trial partnership with Surfree.com.

To users in the continental United States, Surfree.com provides
$14.95 unlimited nationwide Internet access, no setup fees, and a
30-day moneyback guarantee. CNET readers rated Surfree.com "one
of the top five national ISPs." Beyond being just another ISP,
Surfree.com has various features that will be of value to many
genealogists, including:

o It is national with 500 dialup locations, so you can
stay connected even when you're off on a research trip.
o It is extremely competent at handling e-mail.
o It provides free Web space for your genealogical data.
o It provides access to the USENET newsgroups, so you
can easily read alt.genealogy and the soc.genealogy.*
newsgroups.

To join Surfree.com, just visit:

<http://banner.surfree.com/click.asp?lid=27431>

If you do join Surfree.com, please let us know how you like it as
an ISP. Your feedback will determine whether RootsWeb permanently
partners with Surfree.com. You can send us your comments at:
<sur...@rootsweb.com>

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INTERNATIONAL INTERNET GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY (IIGS) April 1999
Newsletter <http://www.iigs.org/newsletter/9904news/index.htm>.
Among the articles in this issue are: "Understanding Copyright
and Its Application to the Information Age"; "Restoring Ethics to
Genealogy"; "Thievery in the Digital Age"; and "The Frugal
Genealogist." The IIGS Newsletter is available in Danish, Dutch,
English, Finnish, French, German, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese,
Spanish, and Swedish.

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ROOTSWEB REPORT ON TALKSPOT. Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG will be
on the TalkSpot Generations interactive show for genealogists
every Saturday giving the RootsWeb Report. The show runs from 4
p.m. to 6 p.m. Pacific Time (midnight to 0200 GMT) and can be
joined at any time <http://www.talkspot.com/shows/Generations/>.
This week's topics are "What Every Genealogist Should Know" and
"Finding Your Immigrant Ancestors." Karen Clifford, accredited
genealogist, author, and lecturer, will be the guest.

* * *

HELPDESK TIPS. For answers to most of your questions about using
the resources hosted by RootsWeb, please read the FAQs at the
RootsWeb HelpDesk: <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/>.

* * * * *

CONNECTING THROUGH ROOTSWEB. Thanks for sharing your stories.

I have been a subscriber to several RootsWeb lists for a few
months, and have been active in helping with lookups, or any
information I had, whenever possible. That was paid back "big
time" two days ago. On the Hamilton, Ohio list I posted a request
for orphanages that were operating around the turn of the
century, looking for my grandmother. I had no idea whether the
information was even out there. (Oh ye of little faith!) Within
12 hours, I had received five messages, four of them giving me
names and addresses of orphanages, and the fifth asking if maybe
my grandmother's brother might be related to her. Information
that I may have never been able to get where I live was almost
immediately available on RootsWeb. Thank you for the resources
and for those who maintain them.

Linda Graham <lkgr...@uswest.net>

* * *

Thanks to all who are involved in this wonderful world. Due to an
illness that has as a side effect agoraphobia (fear of public
places) along with physical disabilties which come and go as they
please, 18 months ago, I started working on my genealogy, calling
and writing relatives etc., then obtaining access to the
Internet. I have met wonderful people, including new relatives,
and seen wonderful information. Here's how it helped even more.

Many volunteers have tried to help locate some of those lost
individuals of mine. Since I am no longer able to work, finances
were tight until insurance kicked in recently. During this time
frame though, I needed to learn to go back out in public and I
felt guilty for using RootsWeb for free. To solve or start
solving these problems, I volunteered to do lookups in my local
county, hoping I would be able to do this. What a wonderful
feeling to be able to go back out in the world even for a couple
hours at a time without getting deathly ill, and all for such an
important reason and to return the favors others have done for
me. A point in this also is, remember even if you have a
disablity, you still have the ability in you to help others, if
you have the will to do so. Thank you, RootsWeb organizers,
county coordinators, and volunteers. What a big difference you
have made in my life!

Doris Demet <tld...@worldnet.att.net>

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LETTERS TO THE EDITORS. A copy of this message was sent to RWR-
Edi...@rootsweb.com.

Hi Laird, I just read the latest RootsWeb Review (Vol. 2, No. 13,
dated 31 March 1999) and saw your response about Myra's article
on privacy and your statement that so many of today's
genealogists DO NOT DOCUMENT their work. Thank you for submitting
these thoughts -- Hooray!

I have been on several mailing lists on RootsWeb for more than a
year now, and I am absolutely astounded by the apparently
absolute lack of using sound genealogical methods and practices
by these "computer genealogists" of today. I shudder to think
what genealogies our descendants will have to work with in 50 or
100 years when they start using the erroneous pedigrees that
people are now compiling.

I wonder how many of these new researchers will even some day
realize that they must PROVE their lineage for it to be accurate?
Simply amassing thousands of names from databases and from other
researchers is NOT proof in even the most liberal definition of
the word. You should have seen the number of astounded people on
one mailing list when I posted a response stating that they had
to have proof for every event/ancestor that they downloaded from
a database or received from another researcher.

Ancestral File, World Family Tree CDs, and the attempts to "make
a connection" through the never-ending posting of Internet
surname queries (e.g.: "My great-grandfather was born on the
moon, do you know which crater?") have harmed, rather than
helped, genealogy because of the error-filled pedigrees people
are creating. Some of these new researchers do not want to be
bothered with research if they cannot sit in front of their
computer monitor, and others will not make the time to educate
themselves about what is acceptable proof and what is not, much
less what is proper methodology. One person even responded to me
that she has been "doing genealogy" for eight months now and
claims she has one of her family lines back to 1609. Hardly.
Unless she was given substantiating data with all the names and
dates and she has verified that data, she only has 300 years of
clues, not 300 years of ancestors.

On the other hand, thankfully, there are a few folks on each
mailing list who realize that there is more to chasing ancestors
than sitting in front of the computer. They are eager to learn
the correct ways to conduct their research. They realize that
information from secondary sources, databases, and from other
researchers are only CLUES, and not proof of relation. These
people will advance more slowly in the acquisition of ancestors,
but they will have their ancestors and not someone else's. The
following was posted recently on a mailing list and illustrates
this point very well:

. . . when I started I was excited because within the
first week someone sent me a 14-generation chart on
*supposedly* one of my lines. For more than a year I
took this as gospel, because this guy had quite an
impressive database. Then as I was starting to get proof I
discovered that somewhere between the 3rd and 4th
generation he went off into the wild blue yonder, and
that's where I would still be if I had not started to
investigate myself. I would be chasing someone else's
dreams. That's the best way I could put it, so think
about it folks. Do you want to chase yours or someone
else's? My database is not large, but it is MINE . . .

In closing, Laird, I wish to again thank you for publishing your
thoughts. If enough of us do so on enough mailing lists, maybe we
can convert at least a few computer genealogists into bona fide
"family researchers."

Charlie Gardes <ch...@ix.netcom.com>

* * * * *

MAILING LISTS. For an index to most user mailing lists hosted by
RootsWeb, visit <http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/>.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE WEB ACCESS but would like to know if a
RootsWeb-hosted mailing list exists for a particular surname,
send a SUBSCRIBE request in accordance with the instructions
below, filling in the desired surname where the example shows
[name of list]. If the list exists, you will receive confirmation
that your address has been added to the list. If the list does
not exist, your message will bounce back to you with a message
advising there is no such address. Try alternate spellings. For
example, there is no list for KLINE, but there are KLEIN and
CLINE lists. You have nothing to lose but the time it takes to
prepare and send the SUBSCRIBE request.

NEW MAILING LIST REQUESTS. USGenWeb and WorldGenWeb hosts may
have FREE locality mailing lists for the areas they host and for
that purpose may ignore the "Contributors-only" warning on the
list request page. Please request new mailing lists at:
<http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/members/listrequest.html>

TO SUBSCRIBE OR UNSUBSCRIBE from any RootsWeb-hosted mailing
list, send an e-mail message with only the word SUBSCRIBE
(or UNSUBSCRIBE) in the subject and the body of the message to
[name of list]-L-re...@rootsweb.com (for mail mode) or to [name
of list]-D-re...@rootsweb.com (for digest mode). FOR EXAMPLE,
if you have research interests in County Galway, Ireland, send a
SUBSCRIBE message to: <IRL-GALWAY...@rootsweb.com>.

NEW SURNAME MAILING LISTS
BLAIR-JACOB (descendants of Jacob BLAIR)
BRAWLEY (includes BRALEY, BRALY, O'BRAWLEY, and variants)
BRIX
BURBEY
CARAWAY
CARMICHAEL (includes variants)
CINA
COVERT (includes variants)
DOMINGO
DOWNARD
DRYDEN
EAGLEN
FIGHTMASTER
GAGE
GOMILLION
HOLTEN
KLEMANN
LEGROS (includes variants)
MCSWAIN
METZ
MION
RANKIN
RODEBAUGH
ROSE-NOEL (Descendants of Noel ROSE and Marie Montminy,
who were married in Quebec in 1666)
ROWAN-SURNAME (the surname ROWAN)
SCHLERETH
SCUDDER
SEIELSTAD
SISSON (includes SISSOM, SISSONS, and variants)
TALBOT (includes TALBOTT)
TINNELL (includes TENNILLE, TENNELL, TENNILL, and variants)
TREFZ
TUNE
VOLLWEILER
WENRICH
WESTERFIELD (includes WESTERVELT)
WILDER-NORTH (WILDER surname in northern United States)
WILDER-SOUTH (WILDER surname in southern United States)

NEW REGIONAL MAILING LISTS
CANADA
CAN-ONT-HALDIMAND -- Haldimand County, Ontario
IRELAND
IRL-GALWAY -- County Galway
IRL-SLIGO -- County Sligo
U.S.A.
ALMONROE -- Monroe County, Alabama
GAWORTH -- Worth County, Georgia
IDADO -- Ada and Canyon counties, Idaho
IDCASSIA -- Cassia County, Idaho
IDELMORE -- Elmore County, Idaho
IDFRANKL -- Franklin County, Idaho
IDJEROME -- Jerome County, Idaho
IDLATAH -- Latah County, Idaho
MOPUTNAM -- Putnam County, Missouri
MTBROADW -- Broadwater County, Montana
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~mtbroadw>
MTCASCAD -- Cascade County, Montana
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~mtcascad>
MTLEWISA -- Lewis and Clark County, Montana
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~mtlewisa>
MTMEAGHE -- Meagher County, Montana
MTSTILLW -- Stillwater County, Montana
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~mtstillw>
OKATOKA -- Atoka County, Oklahoma
SCGS -- Sonoma County (California) Genealogical Society
TXJEFFDA -- Jeff Davis County, Texas
TXPRESID -- Presidio County, Texas
TXWISE -- Wise County, Texas
VAAMELIA -- Amelia County, Virginia
VAAMHERS -- Amherst County, Virginia
VACAMPBE -- Campbell County, Virginia
VADINWID -- Dinwiddie County, Virginia
VAGLOUCE -- Gloucester County, Virginia
VAHENRY -- Henry County, Virginia
VAISLEOF -- Isle of Wight County, Virginia
VAPITTSY -- Pittsylvania County, Virginia
VAPOWHAT -- Powhatan County, Virginia
VAPRINCEG -- Prince George County, Virginia
VAYORK -- York County, Virginia
WVTYLER -- Tyler County, West Virginia
WYSWEETW -- Sweetwater County, Wyoming
WYUINTA -- Uinta County, Wyoming

NEW ETHNIC, SPECIAL INTEREST, and MISCELLANEOUS MAILING LISTS
FENIANS -- History of the Fenian Brotherhood and Irish
Revolutionary movement, formed 1857 and continued until 1870s
GEN-WEB-DESIGN -- Web and database design, as it relates to the
WWW and genealogy
OH-CLEVELAND-IRISH -- Research of the Irish in Cleveland, Ohio
and surrounding areas
OKARCHIVE -- OKGenWeb volunteer archivists (only)
WMGS-NEWS -- Western Michigan Genealogical Society newsletter

* * * * *

NEW WEB ACCOUNT REQUESTS. Please see the instructions at
<http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help/websites.html>.

NEW WEB SITES. Some of these might not yet be accessible. If one
that interests you isn't up yet, please check again in a few days
or a week. <http://www.rootsweb.com/~[account name]>. Note that
the ~[tilde] before the account name is required. FOR EXAMPLE, to
visit the Fairfax County, Virginia Web page, go to
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~vafairfa/>.

U.S.A.
gaahs -- Athens County (Georgia) Historical Society
kyjchs -- Johnson County (Kentucky) Historical Society
kymercer -- Mercer County, Kentucky
kytrimbl -- Trimble County, Kentucky
macplymo -- Plymouth (City), Massachusetts
macsherb -- Sherborn (Town), Massachusetts
miantrim -- Antrim County, Michigan
miiosco -- Iosco County, Michigan
mimacomb -- Macomb County, Michigan
mscopiah -- Copiah County, Mississippi
msosgs -- Ocean Springs (Mississippi) Genealogical Society
nchertfo -- Hertford County, North Carolina
nchalifa -- Halifax County, North Carolina
nvpershi -- Pershing County, Nevada
ohpcgs -- Pike County (Ohio) Genealogical Society
sddewey -- Dewey County, South Dakota
scyork -- York County, South Carolina
sdhanson -- Hanson County, South Dakota
sdkingsb -- Kingsbury County, South Dakota
vafairfa -- Fairfax County, Virginia

HOME PAGES
Bonnie (GALLAGHER) GILSON Home Page. GALLAGHER, IZATT,
JOHNSTON, LINCOLN, NAGLE, and SIMONSON
<http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bgilson/>
MEISSNER Family Web Site. Ancestors and descendants of
Friedrich Adolph MEISSNER
<http://meissner-family.rootsweb.com/>
RAGSDALE Pages. RAGSDALE in Tennessee, early 1800s to present
<http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ragsdale/>

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USGENWEB ARCHIVES -- CENSUS IMAGES
KENTUCKY. 1880 Harrison County
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/harrison/census/1880/>
PENNSYLVANIA. 1850 Blair County
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/blair/census/1850/>
VIRGINIA. 1850 Richmond County
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/va/richmond/census/1850/>

USGENWEB ARCHIVES -- OTHER UPLOADS (Everything between the angle
brackets must be included, so you will have to type in long URLs,
or cut and paste them, rather than just click and go.)
GEORGIA. Decatur County. Marriages 1824 to 1945 Bride Index
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/decatur/vitals/
marrbr15.txt>
GEORGIA. Decatur County. Marriages 1824 to 1945 Groom Index
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/decatur/vitals/
marrgr14.txt>
KENTUCKY. 1850 Edmonson County Census
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/edmonson/edmonson.html>
KENTUCKY. 1820 Whitley County Census
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ky/whitley/whitley.html>
LOUISIANA. St. Tammany Parish. Cemeteries
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/sttamman/cemeteries/>
MISSISSIPPI. Lawrence County. World War I Registrations --
Birth information 1917-18
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ms/lawrence/registrants/>
MISSISSIPPI. Lincoln County. World War I Registrations --
Birth information 1917-18
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ms/lincoln/registrants/>
MISSISSIPPI. Madison County -- 30 Wills
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ms/madison/wills/>
OHIO. Brown County. Biographies
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/brown/bios/>
OHIO. Brown County. History
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/brown/history/>
OHIO. Brown County.1818-1819 Marriage Index
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/brown/marriages/
marr1818-1819.txt>
OHIO. 1820 Monroe County Census
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/monroe/census/
1820cens.txt>
OHIO. 1850 Williams County Census
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/williams/census/1850/>
OKLAHOMA. Johnston County. Cemeteries
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ok/johnston/cemeteries/>
OKLAHOMA. Choctaw Nation. Cemeteries
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ok/nations/choctaw/
cemeteries/>
PENNSYLVANIA. Montgomery County. Local History
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/montgomery/
historylocal/>
TEXAS. 1850 Houston Census
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tx/houston/census/
1850cens.txt>
VERMONT, Caledonia County. History of Ryegate
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/vt/caledonia/ryegate/
history/horvt01.txt>
VIRGINIA. 1850 Alleghany County Census
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/alleghany/census/
1850cens.txt>
VIRGINIA. 1820 Rockingham County Census
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/va/rockingham/census/
1820cens.txt>
WEST VIRGINIA. Harrison County. Biographies
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wv/harrison/bios/>
WISCONSIN. Barron County. Biographies
<ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/wi/barron/biographies/>

* * * * *

* * * * *

HUMOR. Last week we published "No Footprints in the Sands of
Time," indicating that the author was unknown. Thanks to Jo
Carolyn Beebe <jo...@stc.net>, who wrote to let us know that the
poem was written by Virginia Scott Miner.

Thanks to Charles Hansen <mxp...@prodigy.com>, who received this
week's foolishness, told or retold by R. David Otten, from
Michael Posluns <mpos...@accglobal.net>.

ANTARCTICAN CHICKEN FARM

An Antarctican decided to raise chickens, so he planted 500 of
them. They died. He ordered 500 more and planted them with their
heads sticking out. They died. Then he wrote to the University of
Antarctica, describing the situation. The university's reply was,
"Please send soil sample."

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PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles from ROOTSWEB REVIEW is granted
unless specifically stated otherwise, PROVIDED: (1) the reprint
is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the
following notice appears at the end of the article:

Written by <author's name, e-mail address, and URL, if given>
Previously published by RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative,
RootsWeb Review, Vol. 2, No. 14, 7 April 1999. Please visit
RootsWeb's main Web page at <http://www.rootsweb.com/>.

* * * * *

MISSING LINKS: A Weekly Newsletter for Genealogists, edited and
published by Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG, is a
free e-zine distributed on Fridays. Back issues are available for
download from <ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/mlnews/>. To subscribe
to MISSING LINKS, send an e-mail message that says only SUBSCRIBE
to: Missing-Lin...@rootsweb.com

____
Julia M. Case <Julie...@prodigy.com>
Co-Editor of ROOTSWEB REVIEW
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~review/>
Editor-at-Fault of MISSING LINKS
<http://www.rootsweb.com/~mlnews/>
To subscribe, send SUBSCRIBE message to
RootsWeb-Rev...@rootsweb.com
Missing-Lin...@rootsweb.com

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<http://www.rootsweb.com/>

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