Been Watching Farscape...
James Stein
Now, the show *is* cool...
..But how did *this* thing run for 5 seasons, while *Firefly* couldn't
finish out 1?
I can't possibly abide by the concept that Farscape is better than
Firefly. Unless I'm some sort of weird aberration in movie taste?
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"James Stein" <James...@si.rr.com> wrote in message
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> So, I just finished watching Seasons 2 & 3 on DVD.
>
> Now, the show *is* cool...
>
> ..But how did *this* thing run for 5 seasons, while *Firefly* couldn't
> finish out 1?
>
> I can't possibly abide by the concept that Farscape is better than
> Firefly. Unless I'm some sort of weird aberration in movie taste?
Scifil's target audience vs. Fox's? Higher ratings demands with broadcast
networks?
My bet is Farscape was just cooler.
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Stephenls
> So, I just finished watching Seasons 2 & 3 on DVD.
> Now, the show *is* cool...
> ..But how did *this* thing run for 5 seasons, while *Firefly* couldn't
> finish out 1?
> I can't possibly abide by the concept that Farscape is better than
> Firefly. Unless I'm some sort of weird aberration in movie taste?
TV has been growing progressively more and more hostile to high-budget
drama over the years. Farscape was lucky enough to get started back
when it wasn't so hostile as to be completely inhospitable. But as the
years passed, the environment changed and eventually it died.
Firefly went into the newly hostile environment a proverbial newborn,
with barely any protection at all, and died an infant.
Same thing is happening with Angel. And things aren't looking very good
for Enterprise.
Just wait. These things come in cycles. Expensive drama will come back
into vogue when reality television falls out of fashion. It shouldn't
take much longer than it took sitcoms.
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Julie d'Aubigny
>
> So, I just finished watching Seasons 2 & 3 on DVD.
>
> Now, the show *is* cool...
>
> ..But how did *this* thing run for 5 seasons, while *Firefly* couldn't
> finish out 1?
Four seasons.
And the reason is that Fox has weird expectations for series. A series
that does better in its first eight episodes than the X-Files did in its
first 8, but not as well as X-Files was doing *at that time* would be
cancelled because it wasn't able to match performance.
> I can't possibly abide by the concept that Farscape is better than
> Firefly. Unless I'm some sort of weird aberration in movie taste?
I haven't seen Firefly, but what makes you think that SciFi has the same
standards as Fox for keeping shows on the air?
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James O'Rance
> So, I just finished watching Seasons 2 & 3 on DVD.
>
> Now, the show *is* cool...
I rate it Cooler Than Star Wars. heck, i rate it Cooler Than Star Wars
Even if You Pretend Episode II Was Never Made.
Scorpius is probably my favourite SF villain.
> ..But how did *this* thing run for 5 seasons, while *Firefly* couldn't
> finish out 1?
Farscape has only had four seasons, btw. There is talk of a
miniseries, and -maybe- some of the cast have let things slip at a
local pub, but further information is Not Available Here.
> I can't possibly abide by the concept that Farscape is better than
> Firefly. Unless I'm some sort of weird aberration in movie taste?
Well. How to put this diplomatially.
A friend of min came back from the US recently with all sorts of DVDs,
including the Firefly boxed set. I was rather looking forward to
watching it when I got the chance, but now it has slipped -way- back
in my priorities list.
You see, two of my flatmates have been watching it, and their opinions
have not been exactly flattering. I'll summarise:
Friend A: This show is horrifyingly bad. I can't believe I watched it.
Friend B: I thought it was hilarious. Shame that all the funniest bits
weren't supposed to be.
I find it impossible to discount their critiques (which have been far
more detailed and reasoned than my simple summaries) but it -is- weird
that I've heard that it's so good (in a vague, non-specific way) from
people online.
My tentative theory is that there is something about Firefly that
American audiences find quite palatable while Australian audiences
simply don't enjoy. And other nationalities? I simply have no idea.
I'd be interested in hearing any kind of support for or argument
against this theory. I've got no interest in trashing Firefly for the
sake of it (or comparing its merits to those of Farscape - I'm far too
biased there), I'd just like to hear informed opinions.
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Stephen Griffiths
> James Stein <James...@si.rr.com> wrote:
> > Now, the show *is* cool...
>
> I rate it Cooler Than Star Wars. heck, i rate it Cooler Than Star Wars
> Even if You Pretend Episode II Was Never Made.
>
> Scorpius is probably my favourite SF villain.
development I've ever seen, and I've sat through the entire House of Cards
trilogy ;-P
> My tentative theory is that there is something about Firefly that
> American audiences find quite palatable while Australian audiences
> simply don't enjoy. And other nationalities? I simply have no idea.
>
> I'd be interested in hearing any kind of support for or argument
> against this theory. I've got no interest in trashing Firefly for the
> sake of it (or comparing its merits to those of Farscape - I'm far too
> biased there), I'd just like to hear informed opinions.
1. Mainstream Australian audiences (you know, those freaks that don't
spend $AU on overseas DVD's and instead watch the cathode
demonbox) haven't yet had the chance to see Firefly on TV yet. That they
might have a different reaction to the series is possible, as it is
meant to be a "Space Western" and the western genre possesses a
particularly iconic role in contemporary USA culture. Farscape, a
story about a community founded by prisoners, is arguably about as close
to the Australian colonialist narrative as any other series (except Oz,
which ironically isn't screened here).
2. Over here on the Western side of Australia about 75% of the people that
I know of who have seen Firefly of have enjoyed it. [Note: percentage of
people who enjoyed it seems to share a strong correlation with numbers of
Buffy fans in the audience. But abberants with a mutually exclusive
dislike/like of the series do appear to happen. Apologies to my partner
if she read that].
3. Mainstream Australian audiences don't enjoy Farscape, despite it being
made and starring Australians. It was routinely put in the worst possible
timeslots during its run on channel 9 (notoriously at one stage being
shown at 6:30pm on a Saturday afternoon- cut to shreds), and in pay
TV/cable was originally shown on the frickin' Foxkids channel (obviously
for Aussie TV execs Puppets = Kids Show. Thank god they never encountered
Peter Jackson). Australia is a different TV market from the USA, there is
not a specialist Sci-Fi channel or cable market where shows can find their
niche audiences before being cancelled.
4. Australian TV has only recently embraced two blatant SF shows recently,
Stargate and Charmed. Stargate used to be one of the highest raing shows
on channel 7 and regularly gets a decent timeslot.
From Stephen.
A fan of both Farscape and Firefly.
Not a fan of Stargate or Charmed.
Michael Dracon
> Farscape has only had four seasons, btw. There is talk of a
> miniseries, and -maybe- some of the cast have let things slip at a
> local pub, but further information is Not Available Here.
The 4/6/8 (depending on the source) episode season 5 is pretty much a certainty.
I've had a talk with someone who's got a contact on the inside. There are some
discussions going on about an animated version of Farscape as well as a full
movie.
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Nimrod Jones
:: Just wait. These things come in cycles. Expensive drama will come
:: back into vogue when reality television falls out of fashion. It
:: shouldn't take much longer than it took sitcoms.
I pray that this is true.
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Nimrod Jones
:: The 4/6/8 (depending on the source) episode season 5 is pretty much
:: a certainty. I've had a talk with someone who's got a contact on the
:: inside. There are some discussions going on about an animated
:: version of Farscape as well as a full movie.
Animation migt fall flat on its face and turn lame if not done exceptionally
well, but a movie would be cool. I've always thought that Farscape was big
screen on small screen at times.
Nimrod...
James Stein
>
> > I can't possibly abide by the concept that Farscape is better than
> > Firefly. Unless I'm some sort of weird aberration in movie taste?
>
> I haven't seen Firefly, but what makes you think that SciFi has the same
> standards as Fox for keeping shows on the air?
For some odd reason, I thought Farscape started on a major broadcast
channel, and SciFi just picked it up after it's death.
Nimrod Jones
> For some odd reason, I thought Farscape started on a major broadcast
> channel, and SciFi just picked it up after it's death.
Nope. Sci-Fi *was* its death.
Stephenls
> I pray that this is true.
You realize that sitcoms took the better part of, what thirty, forty years?
Stephen Griffiths
> Julie d'Aubigny wrote:
> > > I can't possibly abide by the concept that Farscape is better than
> > > Firefly. Unless I'm some sort of weird aberration in movie taste?
> >
> > I haven't seen Firefly, but what makes you think that SciFi has the same
> > standards as Fox for keeping shows on the air?
>
> For some odd reason, I thought Farscape started on a major broadcast
> channel, and SciFi just picked it up after it's death.
Partially true. An Australian network (Channel Nine, or Nein as it is
often referred to by embittered SF fans in Australia) started off
partially funding it, but seem to have withdrawn their financial support
after the second season. Around the end of season four, Sci-Fi channel in
the US said that the show wasn't financially profitable enough and pulled
the plug.
Nimrod Jones
:: Nimrod Jones wrote:
::
::: I pray that this is true.
::
:: You realize that sitcoms took the better part of, what thirty, forty
:: years? --
Yes, but I'm also aware that we're living in a global community of sohrter
attention spans and a more rapid pace of technology and so forth. I'm hoping
that trends will also follow the like. I mean, no sooner were flares back in
fashion than already people are realising (and not just those who lived it
the first time round) that they're bloody stupid. It took folks in the '70s
a bit longer to really realise this. Since this is a pattern of repetition,
I'm hoping that "society" will be somewhat quicker on the uptake 2nd time
round.
Nimrod...
James O'Rance
> The 4/6/8 (depending on the source) episode season 5 is pretty much a certainty.
> I've had a talk with someone who's got a contact on the inside.
There has been no -official- confirmation of the miniseries. It may
very well be in production (stuff that Anthony Simcoe said at a local
pub...) but nothing official has been said, afaik.
The New South Wales Film and Television website has the following info
(may not be 100% accurate) under What's Shooting in NSW:
FARSCAPE MINI-SERIES
TYPE: Telemovies (2 x 2 hr)
PRODUCTION COMPANY: Farscape Mini-Series Productions
PHONE: 8748 9299
START SHOOT: 15/12/03
WRAP: 15/3/04
http://filming.fto.nsw.gov.au/content.asp?content=7&Id=76
That's the closest to an official statement that I've seen.
lord zog
>
> 3. Mainstream Australian audiences don't enjoy Farscape, despite it being
> made and starring Australians. It was routinely put in the worst possible
> timeslots during its run on channel 9
This has little to do with mainstream audiences as it does Nein's utter
antipathy towards it. Apparantly they went intoi co-production with Hensen
expecting family viewing they could put in the 5:00pm slot most of season 2
eventually occupied in butchered form, but foolishly didn't specify this
expectation in writing. It's been treated as non-ratings filler ever since.
> 4. Australian TV has only recently embraced two blatant SF shows recently,
> Stargate and Charmed. Stargate used to be one of the highest raing shows
> on channel 7 and regularly gets a decent timeslot.
Channel ten actuaally is reasonably good to Sci-Fi when they get their
hands on it. Aapart from any number of locally produced young-teen sci-fi
programmes (Cyber Girl, Ocen Girl, etc) they gave Sliders a pretty primo
Friday night slot until they started that whole business with killing off
original Quinn. Herculeswas prime-time through its entire run, while Xena
only got the graveyard shift in the last two seasons.
Not to mention that ABC are currently screening aall complete Doctor Who
stories.
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David Johnston
wrote:
>So, I just finished watching Seasons 2 & 3 on DVD.
>
>Now, the show *is* cool...
>
>..But how did *this* thing run for 5 seasons, while *Firefly* couldn't
>finish out 1?
>
The cowboy thing killed Firefly.
David Johnston
<Nimro...@doleos.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>step...@shaw.ca postulated:
>
>:: Just wait. These things come in cycles. Expensive drama will come
>:: back into vogue when reality television falls out of fashion. It
>:: shouldn't take much longer than it took sitcoms.
>
>I pray that this is true.
Uh...have you considered just how long it took for sitcoms to fall out
fashion? You should live so long.
James Stein
Oh but it was so cool.
James O'Rance
> > The cowboy thing killed Firefly.
>
> Oh but it was so cool.
Uh huh? For some reason, I am filled with dubiousness.
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James Stein
So was I, until I watched the entire series.
Go on. Do it. Don't let the first couple episodes stop you - the show
finds its rhythm pretty fast.
Nimrod Jones
:: On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:08:35 -0000, "Nimrod Jones"
Like the man falling from the top of the Empire State building heard to
utter as he fell past each window: "So far, so good."
AJ Butterwick
"James Stein"
> For some odd reason, I thought Farscape started on a major
broadcast
> channel, and SciFi just picked it up after it's death.
Are you possibly confusing it with Stargate-SG1 which started on
Showtime and was moved to Sci-Fi a couple years ago?
AJ
"Slicker than snot. Bet your translator microbes are having fun with
that one." --Crichton.
James Stein
>
> "James Stein"
> > For some odd reason, I thought Farscape started on a major
> broadcast
> > channel, and SciFi just picked it up after it's death.
>
> Are you possibly confusing it with Stargate-SG1 which started on
> Showtime and was moved to Sci-Fi a couple years ago?
>
No. I guess I mixed it up with Nein.
Lee Deity
> Stephen Griffiths wrote:
>>4. Australian TV has only recently embraced two blatant SF shows recently,
>>Stargate and Charmed. Stargate used to be one of the highest raing shows
>>on channel 7 and regularly gets a decent timeslot.
>
>
> Channel ten actuaally is reasonably good to Sci-Fi when they get their
> hands on it. Aapart from any number of locally produced young-teen sci-fi
> programmes (Cyber Girl, Ocen Girl, etc) they gave Sliders a pretty primo
> Friday night slot until they started that whole business with killing off
> original Quinn. Herculeswas prime-time through its entire run, while Xena
> only got the graveyard shift in the last two seasons.
>
> Not to mention that ABC are currently screening aall complete Doctor Who
> stories.
And while both Seven and Nine both traditionally put their
Sci-Fi/Fantasy fare on at 10:30-11:30 at night, it does bear pointing
out that Seven at least didn't treat it as a "goodbye" timeslot. They've
been quite consistent in putting them in it's designated timeslot, and
don't often cancel a series before all the episodes have aired. I tend
to be fairly optimistic when Seven picks up a show, even if the timeslot
means less sleep for me.
Nine treats the Star Trek series well, but in all honesty, that's about
it. I have nothing further to say about them...
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Michael Dracon
No, Fox showed it out of sequence, that killed it. Episode 11 and 12 were part 1
and 2 of the pilot.
Doug Deep
> James Stein
> >So, I just finished watching Seasons 2 & 3 on DVD.
> >Now, the show *is* cool...
> >..But how did *this* thing run for 5 seasons, while *Firefly* couldn't
> >finish out 1?
> The cowboy thing killed Firefly.
Really? I could have sworn that Fox preempting Firefly for the World
Series, at the same time showing the pilot episode (which INTRODUCED
the characters) last did that.
But the fact that the network execs were afraid of horses, as well as
waiting until the show was in production to say "We don't like the
western feel" certainly didn't help matters.
--
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lord zog
>
> lord zog wrote:
> > Stephen Griffiths wrote:
> >>4. Australian TV has only recently embraced two blatant SF shows recently,
> >>Stargate and Charmed. Stargate used to be one of the highest raing shows
> >>on channel 7 and regularly gets a decent timeslot.
> >
> >
> > Channel ten actuaally is reasonably good to Sci-Fi when they get their
> > hands on it. Aapart from any number of locally produced young-teen sci-fi
> > programmes (Cyber Girl, Ocen Girl, etc) they gave Sliders a pretty primo
> > Friday night slot until they started that whole business with killing off
> > original Quinn. Herculeswas prime-time through its entire run, while Xena
> > only got the graveyard shift in the last two seasons.
> >
> > Not to mention that ABC are currently screening aall complete Doctor Who
> > stories.
>
> And while both Seven and Nine both traditionally put their
> Sci-Fi/Fantasy fare on at 10:30-11:30 at night, it does bear pointing
> out that Seven at least didn't treat it as a "goodbye" timeslot. They've
> been quite consistent in putting them in it's designated timeslot, and
> don't often cancel a series before all the episodes have aired. I tend
> to be fairly optimistic when Seven picks up a show, even if the timeslot
> means less sleep for me.
>
> Nine treats the Star Trek series well, but in all honesty, that's about
> it. I have nothing further to say about them...
Interestingly enough, they pulled Witchblade during th enon-ratings period
even though it's on at 1 in the morning, so it must be doing fairly well
for them. Smallville, though it gets tossed aside whenever, is at least
ditting happily in an 8:30 slot (thank god they moved it out of the
censor-happy 7:30 one).
lord zog
*memories of Space Rangers come to mind*
lord zog
>
> David Johnston wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:20:13 GMT, James Stein <James...@si.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >So, I just finished watching Seasons 2 & 3 on DVD.
> > >
> > >Now, the show *is* cool...
> > >
> > >..But how did *this* thing run for 5 seasons, while *Firefly* couldn't
> > >finish out 1?
> > >
> >
> > The cowboy thing killed Firefly.
>
> No, Fox showed it out of sequence, that killed it. Episode 11 and 12 were part 1
> and 2 of the pilot.
*memories of Crusade*
Michael Dracon
> Michael Dracon wrote:
> >
> > David Johnston wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:20:13 GMT, James Stein <James...@si.rr.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >So, I just finished watching Seasons 2 & 3 on DVD.
> > > >
> > > >Now, the show *is* cool...
> > > >
> > > >..But how did *this* thing run for 5 seasons, while *Firefly* couldn't
> > > >finish out 1?
> > > >
> > >
> > > The cowboy thing killed Firefly.
> >
> > No, Fox showed it out of sequence, that killed it. Episode 11 and 12 were part 1
> > and 2 of the pilot.
>
> *memories of Crusade*
Ah yes... TV companies have a tendency to cancel perfectly good sci-fi series,
but UPN still hasn't canceled Enterprise. It's an odd world...
Doug Deep
> Michael Dracon wrote:
> > No, Fox showed it out of sequence, that killed it. Episode 11 and 12 were part 1
> > and 2 of the pilot.
> *memories of Crusade*
It didn't matter WHAT order Crusade came in...aside from Pak-m'ra
porn, that show was doomed.
--
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Nimrod Jones
:: lord zog wrote:
::: *memories of Crusade*
::
:: Ah yes... TV companies have a tendency to cancel perfectly good sci-
:: fi series, but UPN still hasn't canceled Enterprise. It's an odd
:: world...
Crusade wasn't cancelled so much as it was JMS who pulled the plug on it. He
didn't like how TNT were trying to screw it up. They wanted to drop the
whole story arc thing in favour of a totally episodic show and they wanted
more scantily clad female aliens... or something like that anyway. I believe
it was on their insistence that Captain Lockley was written into the show
(albeit as "cameos"). It was as a result of this disagreement with the
studios that JMS pulled the project and Crusade was cancelled.
At least that's the story that I've always heard regarding it and the reason
we had to wait so long for Legend of the Rangers (which I still haven't seen
yet.. grr!) to come out. They had to wait to reclaim the rights so he could
take it to another station... Sci-Fi! Egad! Anyone seen LotR? Any good?
Nimrod...
Picks-at-Flies
> Crusade wasn't cancelled so much as it was JMS who pulled the plug on
> it. He didn't like how TNT were trying to screw it up. They wanted to
> drop the whole story arc thing in favour of a totally episodic show
> and they wanted more scantily clad female aliens... or something like
> that anyway. I believe it was on their insistence that Captain
> Lockley was written into the show (albeit as "cameos"). It was as a
> result of this disagreement with the studios that JMS pulled the
> project and Crusade was cancelled.
> At least that's the story that I've always heard regarding it and the
> reason we had to wait so long for Legend of the Rangers (which I
> still haven't seen yet.. grr!) to come out. They had to wait to
> reclaim the rights so he could take it to another station... Sci-Fi!
> Egad!
I have not heard of that one. Can you point me to something?
> Anyone seen LotR? Any good?
Well, part 3 didn't seem as good as the first 2... maybe I watched it on a
smaller screen or something.
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Michael Dracon
Part 3? I only know it as a single TV movie. Care to eleborate?
Picks-at-Flies
>>> Anyone seen LotR? Any good?
>> Well, part 3 didn't seem as good as the first 2... maybe I watched
>> it on a smaller screen or something.
>
> Part 3? I only know it as a single TV movie. Care to eleborate?
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Michael Dracon
> Michael Dracon squarked:
> >>> Anyone seen LotR? Any good?
> ^^^^
> >> Well, part 3 didn't seem as good as the first 2... maybe I watched
> >> it on a smaller screen or something.
> >
> > Part 3? I only know it as a single TV movie. Care to eleborate?
> Honestly, and you didn't even check my signature. ;-)
No, my brain learned to skip those from being on the Internet for years now.
Should have guessed it though, since I've confused someone else with that one
some time ago...
David Johnston
<Michae...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>David Johnston wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:20:13 GMT, James Stein <James...@si.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >So, I just finished watching Seasons 2 & 3 on DVD.
>> >
>> >Now, the show *is* cool...
>> >
>> >..But how did *this* thing run for 5 seasons, while *Firefly* couldn't
>> >finish out 1?
>> >
>>
>> The cowboy thing killed Firefly.
>
>
>No, Fox showed it out of sequence, that killed it. Episode 11 and 12 were part 1
>and 2 of the pilot.
>
No, showing it in sequence wouldn't have saved it from the cowboy
thing. There were just too many people who rejected the fusion of
old west and Blake's Seven.
lord zog
>
> lord zog wrote:
>
> > Michael Dracon wrote:
> > >
> > > David Johnston wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 23:20:13 GMT, James Stein <James...@si.rr.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >So, I just finished watching Seasons 2 & 3 on DVD.
> > > > >
> > > > >Now, the show *is* cool...
> > > > >
> > > > >..But how did *this* thing run for 5 seasons, while *Firefly* couldn't
> > > > >finish out 1?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The cowboy thing killed Firefly.
> > >
> > > No, Fox showed it out of sequence, that killed it. Episode 11 and 12 were part 1
> > > and 2 of the pilot.
> >
> > *memories of Crusade*
>
> Ah yes... TV companies have a tendency to cancel perfectly good sci-fi series,
> but UPN still hasn't canceled Enterprise. It's an odd world...
Or a Mad World, just to use the sonmg everyone else seems to be lately.
Nimrod Jones
::: At least that's the story that I've always heard regarding it and
::: the reason we had to wait so long for Legend of the Rangers (which I
::: still haven't seen yet.. grr!) to come out. They had to wait to
::: reclaim the rights so he could take it to another station... Sci-Fi!
::: Egad!
:: I have not heard of that one. Can you point me to something?
Well, it was on Sky Movies I think last year, dunno if it's reached the
video store shelves yet. I keep meaning to check.
http://www.scifi.com/b5rangers/
It's supposed to be the pilot to a new series, but I've not heard yet
whether it's actually been picked up for the rest of the series. With SF in
the crisis it is at the moment in the US, I wouldn't mind betting that this
has become a casualty before it's even started.
Nimrod...