Delirium in WoD
Kevin McHorney
non-kinfolk humans (for those of you not familiar with Werewolf, kinfolk are people and
wolves who are related to werewolves but don't have the proper gene that allows them to
change forms.) The delirium can best be described as "a blind, instinctive terror in
humans who view them." O.K., so kinfolk are immune to the delirium because of their
blood, The Fey must be immune or else they and the Fianna would never have become such
friends. I'm pretty sure wraiths and vempires are also immune, but I don't know the
reasons. But what about mages? The way I've had mages explained to me is that they are
humans who have had their avatars awakened. Does this mean they are suceptible to
delirium?
"Sure 'Smash, kill wyrm-things'. Then we can get drunk off our arses"
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Kevin McHorney
James McPherson
: I've got another stupid question: In Crinos form werewolves inflict
: they are suceptible to : delirium?
No. Somewhere (digging through stack o' game books) it says that Magi
(shuffle-shuffle) are (A-ha! M:tA 1st ed p.280) "obviously immune to this
...reaction of uncontrollable fear in non-awakened beings who view them."
So the mage can see the Garou turn to Crinos without turning to a
gibbering puddle. Instead he can calmly and rationally soil himself.
--
Kilroy
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Tarot
>I've got another stupid question: In Crinos form werewolves inflict the delirium on
>non-kinfolk humans (for those of you not familiar with Werewolf, kinfolk are people and
>wolves who are related to werewolves but don't have the proper gene that allows them to
>change forms.) The delirium can best be described as "a blind, instinctive terror in
>humans who view them." O.K., so kinfolk are immune to the delirium because of their
>blood, The Fey must be immune or else they and the Fianna would never have become such
>friends. I'm pretty sure wraiths and vempires are also immune, but I don't know the
>reasons. But what about mages? The way I've had mages explained to me is that they are
>humans who have had their avatars awakened. Does this mean they are suceptible to
>delirium?
I do not believe so. The reason is because their avatar is awakened
they are able to accept the idea that creatures such as werewolves
might be part of their reality. If not, then the mages would never be
able to interact with the Garou and at least two traditions have, the
Dreamspeakers (who are also servants of Gaia) and the Akashic Brothers
(who may have developed and taught the Stargazer's their martial art
form)
--- Tarot, wandering Dreamspeaker and owner of Freedom of Thought
http://www.albany.edu/~sl2357/fotb.html
Kestrel the Fairly Decent Dragon
>I've got another stupid question: In Crinos form werewolves inflict the delirium on
>non-kinfolk humans (for those of you not familiar with Werewolf, kinfolk are people and
>wolves who are related to werewolves but don't have the proper gene that allows them to
>change forms.) The delirium can best be described as "a blind, instinctive terror in
>humans who view them." O.K., so kinfolk are immune to the delirium because of their
>blood, The Fey must be immune or else they and the Fianna would never have become such
>friends. I'm pretty sure wraiths and vempires are also immune, but I don't know the
>reasons. But what about mages? The way I've had mages explained to me is that they are
>humans who have had their avatars awakened. Does this mean they are suceptible to
>delirium?
Actually, they're all awakened (supernatural), and none feels the
effects of Delirium.
Kestrel
The Fairly Decent Dragon
Frater I*I
indians and the abrorigines are not, their peoples were not haunted by
the impergium.
Control over the delirium is most likely something that all
supernaturals possess. It seems only pathetic mortals with low
willpower and poorly created fomor are vulnerable.
Kevin McHorney <mcho...@muse.calarts.edu> wrote:
>I've got another stupid question: In Crinos form werewolves inflict the delirium on
>non-kinfolk humans (for those of you not familiar with Werewolf, kinfolk are people and
>wolves who are related to werewolves but don't have the proper gene that allows them to
>change forms.) The delirium can best be described as "a blind, instinctive terror in
>humans who view them." O.K., so kinfolk are immune to the delirium because of their
>blood, The Fey must be immune or else they and the Fianna would never have become such
>friends. I'm pretty sure wraiths and vempires are also immune, but I don't know the
>reasons. But what about mages? The way I've had mages explained to me is that they are
>humans who have had their avatars awakened. Does this mean they are suceptible to
>delirium?
Torsten Beck
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On Thu, 11 Apr 1996, Kevin McHorney wrote:
> I've got another stupid question: In Crinos form werewolves inflict the
> delirium on
> non-kinfolk humans (for those of you not familiar with Werewolf, kinfolk
> are people and
> wolves who are related to werewolves but don't have the proper gene that
> allows them to
> change forms.) The delirium can best be described as "a blind, instinctive
> terror in
> humans who view them." O.K., so kinfolk are immune to the delirium because
> of their
> blood, The Fey must be immune or else they and the Fianna would never have
> become such
> friends. I'm pretty sure wraiths and vempires are also immune, but I don't
> know the
> reasons. But what about mages? The way I've had mages explained to me is
> that they are
> humans who have had their avatars awakened. Does this mean they are
> suceptible to
> delirium?
>
No. Mages are NOT susceptible to Delirium as it only works on "Sleepers"
as Mages would define them...
I.e. ALL Supernaturals are unaffected, as are people with a Faith of 3+
or at least 3 Points of Numina...
This question will be included in the next version of the WoDCrossoverFAQ.
Torsten
Brendan
Basically, the Delirium only works on everyday schmoes who really have
nothing supernatural at all going on. If you're at all supernatural, you're
probably immune (though running like hell is probably still a good idea...)
Christopher Beattie
Mortals, (Sleepers ...) are succeptable to the delirium
Vampires, Mages, Changelings are not.
Are Vampiric Ghouls (Still mortal) succeptable?
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Gekker
i don't know if there's an official ruling or not, but my logic goes as
follows:
Ghouls, while still technically human, are "magical" enough to fight the
effects of the Delirium.
the knowledge of their vamp buddies mere existance, much less
contact/change should give them enough knowledge/willpower/whatever to
realise that there is more out there, and since Garou are enemies of the
Kindred, s/he probably would have been warned...the ghould wouldn't
necessarily see the Garou for what it is, but s/he would have a clearer
picture than most Sleepers. They'd still be inclined to going a little
crazy at first...they're still more a part of Sleeper society than
Kindred.
i guess it depends on the vampire in question, but as a general rule in
my games, the Delirium had no effect on any magical creatures, ghouls and
kinfolk included.
anyone else have any thoughts?