Forever Knight/Vampire the Masquerade
Kevin Entringer
characters from that TV show Forever Knight.
It even had a little background on how to start a chronicle in Toronto or
what not..
Anyway I was just wondering if anyone knows of a site like that or has some
statistics.. What I'm really looking for is some statistics for LaCroix so
I can incorporate him into my current chronicle.. *grins*
All that I recall is that he was a Toreador..
Regards, Kevin
Christina Waldeck
My ST's chronicle is set in in Toronto, although it's more WoD than Nick
Knight. But the Raven nightlcub exists, and vampires under our GURPS
vampire rules can purchase "flying" as a non-discipline-non-Thaum
superpower, etc.
Since LaCroix was embraced by his little daughter, back in the time of
the Romans, and the daughter had been embraced a brief time previously
by "an egyptian", our ST made LaCroix's daughter a 4th gen, childe of
Set, but she herself was a clanless caitiff or anarch or what-have-you
due to a quirk in her blood, as was LaCroix, the 5th gen (he does not
really behave like a Toreador, he might be a Ventrue (blue-blooded
Roman) but he didn't behave like one either, we reckoned). This made
Nicolas and Janette both 6th gen. Our ST had Janette join the Clan
Toreador some time after her embrace, for political reasons, and become
Prince of Toronto. I don't know what "adoptive" clan she assigned to
Nick Knight himself, I think Ventrue, because of his blue-blooded mortal
background and fickle feeding behaviour... not sure; perhaps she left
him as caitiff *shrug*. In effect, the lineage of LaCroix in our ST's
game is a kind of ultra-small bloodline in itself.
Ok, this is what OUR ST did, it's in no way "official", and I have to
add that she made Janette 1000 years old (which does not fit in with the
Nick Knight episode about Janette's embrace that *I* remember, but
*shrug* I have only seen parts of the series anyway), and because our
groups includes several PC elders, the ST filled the higher Camarilla
ranks of the city with low-gen (6th-8th) old NPC vampires and made
Toronto into a Camarilla city (mostly Ventrue and Toreador, a few
Tremere and Nosferatu, plus a Brujah gang) with high anarch population
on the fringes (and a cabal of annoying young mages and a few werewolves
roaming somewhere), but virtually no Sabbat. But hey... we also have a
french mixed-Toreador/Ventrue "House" which a lot of connections, cash
and power not only in Toronto, but also in France and Germany (with the
members of this House's lineage being loyal foremost to their House, not
to their Clans), and respectable Cam vampires wearing Kevlar suits and
killing Sabbatites with phosporous granades during mass-bloodhunts, so
there. *shrugs again* Build your own opinion.
*weak grin*
Christina
KaVir
>Kevin Entringer wrote:
>>
>> I around a year ago, seeing a site that had vampire
>> statistics for the characters from that TV show Forever
>> Knight.
>>
>> It even had a little background on how to start a chronicle
>> in Toronto or what not..
>>
>> Anyway I was just wondering if anyone knows of a site like
>> that or has some statistics.. What I'm really looking for is
>> some statistics for LaCroix so I can incorporate him into my
>> current chronicle.. *grins*
>> All that I recall is that he was a Toreador..
>>
>> Regards, Kevin
>
>My ST's chronicle is set in in Toronto, although it's more WoD
>than Nick Knight. But the Raven nightlcub exists, and vampires
>under our GURPS vampire rules can purchase "flying" as a non-
>embraced by his little daughter, back in the time of the
>Romans, and the daughter had been embraced a brief time
>previously by "an egyptian", our ST made LaCroix's daughter a
>4th gen, childe of Set
Although I don't watch a great deal of Forever Knight, the
episode with LaCroix's daughter was actually on last night (in
the UK on Sky One). I mention this because his daughter states
that she killed her sire - which might cause a problem if Set is
alive in your world ;) I'd be tempted to rule that she was
embraced by a 4th gen, whom she then diablerised. Of course she
also said that her sire was rumoured to be "one of the first",
so perhaps she only *thought* that she killed him...
A game based around the alternate theme of Forever Knight sounds
like great fun. What did they call those Nosferatu-like vampires
who live in the sewers and feed from animals?
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Wade Lahoda
: A game based around the alternate theme of Forever Knight sounds
: like great fun. What did they call those Nosferatu-like vampires
: who live in the sewers and feed from animals?
Cartouche or something like that. Their equivilent of Caitiff,
more or less.
A. Wade Lahoda
ab...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
Kish
Angela Christine wrote in message
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>Why don't the WoD vampires have a non-wing-dependant flying
>ability available? It's not universal, but pops up a few places
>(Forever Knight, Ricean vampires, several mediocre vampire
>novels). I think freeform flying is more common in fiction and
>fokelore than Viscisitude.
Thaumaturgy, Movement of the Mind.
>Celerity: at least a couple dots.
>Dominate: at 3+ "the forgetful mind" seems to be a special
>
> favorite of these guys.
Lacroix also has the ability to use it on Resisters/neutrals.
Dominate 6+.
>Fortitude: He survived a flaming stake!
He also stood in a direct beam of sunlight once with no apparent
damage, just to taunt Nick.
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Angela Christine
>Kevin Entringer wrote:
>>
>> I around a year ago, seeing a site that had vampire statistics for the
>> characters from that TV show Forever Knight.
>>
>> It even had a little background on how to start a chronicle in Toronto or
>> what not..
>>
>> Anyway I was just wondering if anyone knows of a site like that or has some
>> statistics.. What I'm really looking for is some statistics for LaCroix so
>> I can incorporate him into my current chronicle.. *grins*
>>
>> All that I recall is that he was a Toreador..
>>
>> Regards, Kevin
>
>My ST's chronicle is set in in Toronto, although it's more WoD than Nick
>Knight. But the Raven nightlcub exists, and vampires under our GURPS
>vampire rules can purchase "flying" as a non-discipline-non-Thaum
>superpower, etc.
Why don't the WoD vampires have a non-wing-dependant flying
ability available? It's not universal, but pops up a few places
(Forever Knight, Ricean vampires, several mediocre vampire
novels). I think freeform flying is more common in fiction and
fokelore than Viscisitude. Maybe it is just too Supermanish for
the WoD?
>Since LaCroix was embraced by his little daughter, back in the time of
>the Romans, and the daughter had been embraced a brief time previously
>by "an egyptian", our ST made LaCroix's daughter a 4th gen, childe of
>Set, but she herself was a clanless caitiff or anarch or what-have-you
>due to a quirk in her blood, as was LaCroix, the 5th gen (he does not
>really behave like a Toreador, he might be a Ventrue (blue-blooded
>Roman) but he didn't behave like one either, we reckoned).
That works pretty well. I can see LaCroix anywhere from 5th to
9th generation. This is based mainly on age though, I haven't
seen him use any really high level disciplines.
I'd make him clanless too, at least "social caitiff." His
daughter/sire never spent much time with her sire, and LaCroix
didn't spend much time with her after his embrace. If he's not
clannless he should at least have the "twisted upbringing" flaw.
I'd say it's pretty clear he is *not* a Gangrel or Nosferatu,
because he's just not ugly enough. Tremere and Giovani didn't
exist yet. Cappadonians and Salubri are both nearly extinct now,
and he doesn't fit the profile anyway.
So who is left?
Bruja: Possible. He does have a temper.
Malkavian: Possible. The whole brood has "issues," any anyone
who embraced the brat that sired him has got to be crazy. ;)
Toreador: Possible. The do fit the "flamboyant dilettante"
stereotype. They are not artists, but the brat was pretty and I
suppose she could have been a whim embrace.
Ventrue: Possible. They were all of noble blood in life, but
they seem to eat whoever they catch.
Tzimize: Unlikely, he's never shown any sign of Visc., but aren't
the Tzim also mostly of noble blood?
Lasombra: Not a clue, I don't have any of the Sabbat books.
Assamites: Unlikely, unless LaCroix's gradsire was a real rebel.
Setite: Possible. His grandsire claimed to be from Egypt, which
would favor Setites. He also seems obsessesed with corrupting
his childer. No Serpentis, but that could be explained by the
fact that his gransire was killed without teaching much to his
sire, who in turn taught little to him. But they don't show
exceptional sensitivity to sunlight or bright light.
Ravnos: Unlikely. I suppose a wandering Ravnos could have
embraced an egyptian, but it would be awfully convuluted.
I think I'd go with a caitiff of mysterious lineage.
Powers:
Celerity: at least a couple dots.
Dominate: at 3+ "the forgetful mind" seems to be a special
favorite of these guys.
Fortitude: He survived a flaming stake!
Potence: a couple dots.
Presence: at least 2 dots.
Protean: They all seem to have "gleam of red eyes" except that
their eyes gleam yellow, not red. But they don't show
the higher protean levels.
Nick seems to be up and about quite a bit durring the day. He
travels through sewers and even on the streets (albeit well
bundled up) without much trouble. He also often watches the
sunset and sunrise on his tv, and wakes easily. So Nick doesn't
seem to have that need to sleep durring the day that plagues most
VtM vampires. This may be just him, maybe he has high humanity
and the "light sleeper" merit, or it may apply to the whole
brood. I don't recall seeing LaCroix being all that active
durring the day, so it's hard to say. I can't see LaCroix having
a humanity much above 2, he's a junkie for "premeditated murder."
But he may be on a road or a path other than humanity, he
certainly seems to be in control most of the time.
Good luck,
Angela Christine
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KaVir
It would also make bat-form rather redundant, and that tends to
be a more widely accepted vampire power (although it seems to be
less favoured among more modern movies and novels).
>>Since LaCroix was embraced by his little daughter, back in the
time of
>>the Romans, and the daughter had been embraced a brief time
previously
>>by "an egyptian", our ST made LaCroix's daughter a 4th gen,
childe of
>>Set, but she herself was a clanless caitiff or anarch or what-
have-you
>>due to a quirk in her blood, as was LaCroix, the 5th gen (he
does not
>>really behave like a Toreador, he might be a Ventrue (blue-
blooded
>>Roman) but he didn't behave like one either, we reckoned).
>
>That works pretty well. I can see LaCroix anywhere from 5th to
>9th generation. This is based mainly on age though, I haven't
>seen him use any really high level disciplines.
>
>I'd make him clanless too, at least "social caitiff." His
>daughter/sire never spent much time with her sire, and LaCroix
>didn't spend much time with her after his embrace. If he's not
>clannless he should at least have the "twisted upbringing" flaw.
While Nick would have the "resentful sire" or "diabolic sire"
flaw maybe?
[snip clan and discipline stuff]
>Nick seems to be up and about quite a bit durring the day. He
>travels through sewers and even on the streets (albeit well
>bundled up) without much trouble. He also often watches the
>sunset and sunrise on his tv, and wakes easily. So Nick doesn't
>seem to have that need to sleep durring the day that plagues
most
>VtM vampires. This may be just him, maybe he has high humanity
>and the "light sleeper" merit, or it may apply to the whole
>brood. I don't recall seeing LaCroix being all that active
>durring the day, so it's hard to say. I can't see LaCroix
having
>a humanity much above 2, he's a junkie for "premeditated
murder."
>But he may be on a road or a path other than humanity, he
>certainly seems to be in control most of the time.
I'd say Nick was definitely quite high in Humanity - in fact I
consider him quite a good example of how to go about trying to
reach Golconda - he's trying to "repay society for his sins" by
acting as their protector.
LaCroix would almost certainly follow a different path - one he
wants Nick to follow as well. Which is the path that requires
you to accept your vampiric nature? Path of the beast? Path of
the devil? LaCroix isn't "evil" per say, he just wants Nick to
accept his "true nature".
Lamia
> A game based around the alternate theme of Forever Knight sounds
> like great fun. What did they call those Nosferatu-like vampires
> who live in the sewers and feed from animals?
Carouches. Pronounced "ca-roush-es." Anyone whose first feeding was from
an animal other than a human became a carouche. Apparently the first
feeding "sets" your taste for blood.
I couldn't ever do a V:tM campaign based off of Forever Knight. I just
couldn't bring myself to. I see the show as something completely
different from White Wolf mythology, especially as they don't seem to run
in any particular clan lines.
I mean, Divia's *very* Setite, but LaCroix is somewhat a mix of that and
Toreador, and Nick and Janette are *very* Toreador, and they're all in the
same line of descent. It's too unclear to me.
Tina
who unsubbed from forkni-l after the millionth "Forever Knight in the
WoD!!!" thread ran its course...
Angela Christine
>Angela Christine wrote in message
><397ccb08...@news.telus.net>...
>>ability available? It's not universal, but pops up a few places
>>(Forever Knight, Ricean vampires, several mediocre vampire
>>novels). I think freeform flying is more common in fiction and
>>fokelore than Viscisitude.
>
The trouble is that Thaumaturgy has a lot of baggage with it.
Who the heck would learn only One path of Thaum, and no rituals
at all?
>Lacroix also has the ability to use it on Resisters/neutrals.
>Dominate 6+.
>
>>Fortitude: He survived a flaming stake!
>
>He also stood in a direct beam of sunlight once with no apparent
>damage, just to taunt Nick.
Damn he's cool!
Angela Christine
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Christina Waldeck
>
> aca.Rem...@telus.net (Angela Christine) wrote:
(snip)
> >>My ST's chronicle is set in in Toronto, although it's more WoD
> than Nick
> >>Knight. But the Raven nightlcub exists, and vampires under our
> GURPS
> >>vampire rules can purchase "flying" as a non-discipline-non-
> Thaum
> >>superpower, etc.
> >
> >ability available? It's not universal, but pops up a few places
> >(Forever Knight, Ricean vampires, several mediocre vampire
> >novels). I think freeform flying is more common in fiction and
> >the WoD?
>
> It would also make bat-form rather redundant, and that tends to
> be a more widely accepted vampire power (although it seems to be
> less favoured among more modern movies and novels).
In our group (the one i mentioned above) one two characters (one
Ventrue, one Toreador, i think) actually bought "non-winged flight".
(The Tremere preferred to learn Rego Motus (MotM) to level 3 instead.)
Under GURPS rules, non-winged flight as a one-time advantage costs 40
points, that's quite a lot even in a GURPS Vampire Game, and it gives
you just that... flying around, although you have no time limit. For
aerial acrobatics, though, you'd have to buy a special skill.
Buying Protean up to 5 on the other hand would only cost 10 points for
the 5 levels plus 5 points for the 5 Protean skills (minimum). So it's
much cheaper, if you're a Gangrel. Alright, if you buy it as a non-clan
disc, it costs double.
Yes, we realized that Protean is a discipline were under Storyteller
rules you don't have to roll any dice to activate it at all, but then
under GURPS, the cost in bloodpoints and the size of a vampire's
bloodpool is a bit different... well, another can of worms, we are
currently experimenting with several versions of houserules mixing GURPS
Vampire and V:tM rules to get the most "logical" rules.
Anyway, Protean 5 has the disadvantage that it's usually only found
among the Gangrel Clan, and few non-Gangrel vampires in our game showed
much interest in learning all this Gleam of Red Eye and Wolf Claws and
whatever first to get to the higher levels. Earthmeld *is* something
that most of our PCs would salivate to learn, but... well the only
Gangrel in town are anarchs, and can you see a Ventrue elder go begging
a Gangrel neonate to teach him Protean?
The advantage of Protean is that flying around as a bat does not
endanger the masquerade. Zooming around across the sky in your human
form DOES, big time (plus it messes up your air *grins*). And you can
use the bat form to slip into small hole or houses to spy on people.
Flying powers... all three have advantages and disadvantages. The
Thaumaturgical option, Rego Motus, needs a skill roll AND costs blood
AND does not keep going indefinitely. I am not sure right now if the ST
charges a bloodpoint for activation of the non-winged flight power, too,
as my character did not buy that power
The simple non-winged flight might seem the most powerful (no skill
roll, you can fly indefinitely etc), but it costs a lot of points, is a
breach of masquerade, and it does just that... flying.
Rego Motus gives you the ability to use telekinesis, not just on
yourself, but on everything under the weight restrictions. There are a
lot of nifty things a Tremere can do with that.
And Protean gives you 4 other powers apart from the bat form, plus you
can purchase a wolf or cat form too for additional points.
All in all, it seems moderately balanced. Those clans who have access to
flight by disciplines can buy that, cheaper, and it's better for the
atmosphere of the game, the others can opt to buy non-winged flight. Not
all characters wanted to, as I said. And since our ST allows us to buy
other "superpowers" that fit the vampire theme from the GURPS Supers and
GURPS Bloodtypes supplements, as long as we can weave an interesting
explanation around it why the PC developed this special power (i.e.
Clinging), the initial response of "oh wow, we want to be able to fly
around like the 'Nick Knight' and Anne Rice vampires, too!" has subsided
a bit.
Now, if i had to pick a discipline that can become annoying... i would
pick Fortitude 5. *rolls eyes* Everyone seems to buy it these days in
our group, not just the Ventrue and Gangrel. And Celerity. *cough*. I
guess it happens when the St allows the PCs and NPCs to use heavy
ammunition and grenades and flamethrowers...At least we never ran into
LaCroix up till now *shudder*.
But i digress.
Lamia
> Now, if i had to pick a discipline that can become annoying... i would
> pick Fortitude 5. *rolls eyes* Everyone seems to buy it these days in
> our group, not just the Ventrue and Gangrel. And Celerity. *cough*. I
> guess it happens when the St allows the PCs and NPCs to use heavy
> ammunition and grenades and flamethrowers...At least we never ran into
> LaCroix up till now *shudder*.
> But i digress.
Nah, that's okay. That's when you start hitting your players with a
Gangrel elder. He sneaks up on them with just the teensiest bit of
Obfuscate, hits someone for agg damage with Wolf Claws, then blows into
Mist Form to run away. Then he does the same thing again, all night,
since they can't heal that agg.
Hrm. I notice that I actually should say "City Gangrel elder." Obfuscate
and Celerity are must-haves for something like this.
Or you hit the players with some high-level Mental or Social
Disciplines. A Nos in Obfuscate can Beckon the hell out of some animals
and send them off to you, or a Ventrue with high levels of Dominate and
Presence can cow you with almost no effort at all.
Malkavians are hideous. Dementation from Obfuscate, so there's no visible
source.
Tina
Wade Lahoda
: I couldn't ever do a V:tM campaign based off of Forever Knight. I just
: couldn't bring myself to. I see the show as something completely
: different from White Wolf mythology, especially as they don't seem to run
: in any particular clan lines.
Although forever Knight is the single reason I ever ever got
interested in Vampire... I am the same way. I'd love to, but the fact
is that the Forever Knight setting isn't all that great. IT's the
characters we love, and it'd be impossible to do them justice. That,
plus I'm one of only two of the 70 some Vampire players I know who don't
intensely dislike Forever Knight. =(
Although I still think the soundtrack can make for great game music.
: I mean, Divia's *very* Setite, but LaCroix is somewhat a mix of that and
: Toreador, and Nick and Janette are *very* Toreador, and they're all in the
: same line of descent. It's too unclear to me.
I've always said Toreador, without a doubt. Divia doesn't fit in
as well as the rest, but... <shrug> =)
: who unsubbed from forkni-l after the millionth "Forever Knight in the
: WoD!!!" thread ran its course...
Damn. I was on that list for something like 4 or five years, and
never saw a single thread like that. I guess I just unsubscribed too
early. =)
A. Wade Lahoda
ab...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
Wade Lahoda
: >>Fortitude: He survived a flaming stake!
: >
: >He also stood in a direct beam of sunlight once with no apparent
: >damage, just to taunt Nick.
: Damn he's cool!
He is, in many ways, the ultimate Sire archetype. Only reason he
isn't the perfect template for that role in Vampire is he's too
apolitical. Seeing as vampires don't really have politics in FK... =)
But, yes, he's the damn coolest vampire ever. And he could kick
Lestat's ass. ;)
A. Wade Lahoda
ab...@Sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
-=|horsefly|=-
> Although forever Knight is the single reason I ever ever got
> interested in Vampire... I am the same way. I'd love to, but the fact
> is that the Forever Knight setting isn't all that great. IT's the
> characters we love, and it'd be impossible to do them justice. That,
> plus I'm one of only two of the 70 some Vampire players I know who don't
> intensely dislike Forever Knight. =(
anyone starts with me, the third season had its moments). i still miss
Jeanette <mope>.
as to "not doing the characters justice," i think judiciously
using the main characters from FK for the occsional cameo pays off much
better than running them as PCs or using them as regular NPCs. a lot
easier on character concepts to have the players tangentally related or
associated to Nick and company.
> Although I still think the soundtrack can make for great game music.
FK's score/ soundtrack is indespensible for Vampire, agreed!
> : I mean, Divia's *very* Setite, but LaCroix is somewhat a mix of that and
> : Toreador, and Nick and Janette are *very* Toreador, and they're all in the
> : same line of descent. It's too unclear to me.
> I've always said Toreador, without a doubt. Divia doesn't fit in
> as well as the rest, but... <shrug> =)
i prefer viewing them as similar to Caine--they're all
caitiff; there are no clans. just social gatherings.
> : who unsubbed from forkni-l after the millionth "Forever Knight in the
> : WoD!!!" thread ran its course...
> Damn. I was on that list for something like 4 or five years, and
> never saw a single thread like that. I guess I just unsubscribed too
> early. =)
i went through a hard-drive crash and lost all my FK bookmarks, so
there <raspberry, grin>.
-=|horsefly|=-
Lamia
> one of three. i loved FK (up until season 3 <sigh>--and before
> anyone starts with me, the third season had its moments). i still miss
> Jeanette <mope>.
What "start with you?" *Agree* with you. The absolute butchering of
Natalie's character (and, to a lesser extent, Nick's character) absolutely
*appalled* me. There were some good bits to third season, but on the
whole, it was atrocious.
D'you believe they tried to get rid of Natalie *and* Janette? <growl>
From everything I've heard, they tried to do in Catherine Disher (Natalie)
first, and Geraint Wyn Daivies (Nick) said, "If she goes, I'm gone
too." They caved, but then ditched Deb Duchene (Janette), and he couldn't
do a thing about it.
Er, not that I was heavily involved in the fandom for several years, and I
didn't have friends with connections on the set. Not at all.
> as to "not doing the characters justice," i think judiciously
> using the main characters from FK for the occsional cameo pays off much
> better than running them as PCs or using them as regular NPCs. a lot
> easier on character concepts to have the players tangentally related or
> associated to Nick and company.
Hrm. That might be interesting. You could conceivably do a WoD campaign
set in Toronto if you used the FK characters as NPCs who showed up on a
*very* rare basis. Most of the vampires in the city never interacted with
the main characters anyway.
> i went through a hard-drive crash and lost all my FK bookmarks, so
> there <raspberry, grin>.
Some of the fanfic is good, but enough of it bites that losing them isn't
necessarily a bad thing. :)
Tina
Wade Lahoda
: one of three. i loved FK (up until season 3 <sigh>--and before
: anyone starts with me, the third season had its moments). i still miss
: Jeanette <mope>.
Virtually everyone who started watching the show in one of the
first two seasons dislikes season three. Season three is, for me, to the
rest of Forever Knight what Highlander II is to the Highlander continuum.
=) That being said, there were good bits - like Ashes to Ashes, for
instance -but the majority of the season just wasn't up to snuff. Of
course, I also liked season 1 better than 2, soo... =)
: as to "not doing the characters justice," i think judiciously
: using the main characters from FK for the occsional cameo pays off much
: better than running them as PCs or using them as regular NPCs. a lot
: easier on character concepts to have the players tangentally related or
: associated to Nick and company.
Very true. Short of having Nigel Bennet or Geriant Wyn Davies
in my living room, you just couldn't do the characters justice, as I said
before. =) A cameo might be worthwhile, but either if a) your players
are FK fans, or b) your players have never heard of FK. Option c) your
players mock and ridicule FK is the option I'm usually stuck with,
however. Of course, my players feel that way about 9/10ths of vampire
fiction, which makes me wonder why they play vampire, but ahh well. =)
A. Wade Lahoda
ab...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
AJSolis
>Hrm. I notice that I actually should say "City Gangrel elder." Obfuscate
>and Celerity are must-haves for something like this.
camarilla gangrel neonate.
Celerity to run away, obfuscate to hide, protean to fly away, potence to
jump away, fortitude in case he can't run away, and working on dread gaze so he
can make others run away, and if he can manage it visceratika to hide and
enhance his resistance to injury. Detect a theme here? I've got a cowardly
neonate gangrel. :)
And there have been several people who've thought him a city gangrel or an
elder "in disguise."
Brendan T. Moran
Christina Waldeck wrote:
> Kevin Entringer wrote:
> >
> > I around a year ago, seeing a site that had vampire statistics for the
> > characters from that TV show Forever Knight.
> >
> > It even had a little background on how to start a chronicle in Toronto or
> > what not..
> >
> > Anyway I was just wondering if anyone knows of a site like that or has some
> > statistics.. What I'm really looking for is some statistics for LaCroix so
> > I can incorporate him into my current chronicle.. *grins*
> >
> > All that I recall is that he was a Toreador..
> >
> > Regards, Kevin
>
> My ST's chronicle is set in in Toronto, although it's more WoD than Nick
> Knight. But the Raven nightlcub exists, and vampires under our GURPS
> vampire rules can purchase "flying" as a non-discipline-non-Thaum
> superpower, etc.
> Since LaCroix was embraced by his little daughter, back in the time of
> the Romans, and the daughter had been embraced a brief time previously
> by "an egyptian", our ST made LaCroix's daughter a 4th gen, childe of
> Set, but she herself was a clanless caitiff or anarch or what-have-you
> due to a quirk in her blood, as was LaCroix, the 5th gen (he does not
> really behave like a Toreador, he might be a Ventrue (blue-blooded
What about that Spanish guy from the last (I think) season? The conquistador? Or
the one who had the greenhouse who made false identities for other vampires?
brendan
Wade Lahoda
: What about that Spanish guy from the last (I think) season? The conquistador? Or
: the one who had the greenhouse who made false identities for other vampires?
Vachon and Aristotle. Vachon...well, he's got the 'new classic'
vampire thing going - were he not hispanic, he'd be the perfect modern
'cool' vampire. 'I like cars with fins - they're predatory.' ;) Almost
certainly Brujah, IMHO. Got that idealist Sire, but he himself is an
iconoclast learning to slowly accept responsiblity for himself and
others. Vachon is third season, yes. And I'd still much rather have
Janette than Vachon, because Janette is even more 'vampire cool', and
damn sexy to boot. =)
BTW...I forget who mentioned something about their GM making
Janette 1000 years dead? That's not a modification to FK canon, that's
how old she is. Nick is 800 years dead, and Janette was 'ancilla' when
Lacroix brought Nick across. There is an episode where the flashback is
Janette's Embrace, and I do believe it dates her fairly closely to ~1000 A.D.
As for Aristotle... We only saw a /very/ little bit about him,
if we're talking about the same 'identity manufacturer' guy. My guess is
that he is /the/ Aristotle... In FK, every important historical
personage with the purposeful exception of Hitler seems to become a
vampire. ;) Could just be a nickname though... Or just a guy who happens
to be named Aristotle, just by coincidence. ;)
And Remember...Forever Knight is dead, but that doesn't mean it's
forever. Although the series will likely never be brought back, there's
a good chance of at least a TV movie. Kickstart the Knight!!! Go to
http://www.ktk.op.nu/ for all the information you need to help bring back
Forever Knight in one incarnation or another! =) The fight is not dead,
although maybe just a bit undead. ;) Man, that was a bad attempt at
humour. ;)
A. Wade Lahoda, FK Fanatic
ab...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
Christina Waldeck
(snip all the long long parts of posts about Vampire:tM in Nick Knight's
Toronto)
>
> What about that Spanish guy from the last (I think) season? The conquistador? Or
> the one who had the greenhouse who made false identities for other vampires?
>
I didn't see most of the episodes from the last season, sorry, because
they were never shown on TV in Germany, and all i managed to watch were
three or so original episodes on NTSC private video cassettes that a
friend of a friend of mine sent him from USA... but after that, the
friend of my friend moved and had no time to record more episodes for us
(he had been budy recording B5 and Star Trek and Nikita episodes for us
all those years, so we could not blame him *wry smile*).
I only gathered, from the episodes I got to see, that Nick's partner
had been killed and that several new main vampire characters had
appeared in the series and that Nick got a new, female partner?
The Spanish guy... i saw the episode where he and the south-american guy
were embraced by the Inka (or Maya? Aztech? *shrug*) flying beauty who
then walked into the sunrise.
Hm... our ST never entered the Spanish guy into "our" WoD Toronto, but
we all agreed that the Spaniard was most likely a Gangrel. With high
humanity, but no "signature" Gangrel powers. After all, his Siress had
left him right after the Embrace. Or a caitiff embraced by a Gangrel.
We especially liked the Nosferatu-like guy hiding in the sewers *grins*
Christina
Kish
SFryar wrote in message
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>> Cartouche or something like that. Their equivilent of Caitiff,
>>more or less.
>
>It's carouche, which is the FK equivalent of 'caitiff'...
>
A Forever Knight carouche is a vampire animal--not a humanoid vampire.
Kish
Kristopher/EOS wrote in message
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Welcome back. Haven't seen you in just forever.
SFryar
>: A game based around the alternate theme of Forever Knight sounds
>: like great fun. What did they call those Nosferatu-like vampires
>: who live in the sewers and feed from animals?
>
>more or less.
It's carouche, which is the FK equivalent of 'caitiff'...
Right now, I'm working on a fictional story that will be an FK/V:tM crossover,
and I'll let you know how it turns out. :)
Hope that this helps.
Steph
(can you tell that I watch FK? <g>)
Kristopher/EOS
>>> Caitiff, more or less.
>>
>> It's carouche, which is the FK equivalent of 'caitiff'...
>
> humanoid vampire.
I thought it was a vampire that fed on animals...
Kristopher/EOS
Anthony Boyd
animals.
Wade Lahoda
: A Forever Knight carouche is a vampire animal--not a humanoid vampire.
Close...but I do believe a carouche is a vampire(human) who first
fed on an animal, and thus now only feeds on animals. In other words, a
normal vampire with Feeding Restriction: Animals, and who is socially
treated as Caitiff.
As for the animal vampires - ie: the vampire dog - I'm not sure
if they have names as a 'breed'. =)
A. Wade Lahoda
ab...@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca
Kristopher/EOS
>
> Kristopher/EOS wrote in message
> <3987c041$0$50275$44a1...@news.net-link.net>...
>
> Welcome back. Haven't seen you in just forever.
I lurk. Most of what I would say isn't very welcome.
Kristopher/EOS
Lamia
> SFryar wrote in message
> <20000801203134...@ng-fn1.aol.com>...
>>> Cartouche or something like that. Their equivilent of Caitiff,
>>>more or less.
>>
>>It's carouche, which is the FK equivalent of 'caitiff'...
> A Forever Knight carouche is a vampire animal--not a humanoid vampire.
Rather, a carouche is a vampire that feeds on animal blood. :P Screed
(the Nosferatu-like guy who always ate rats) was a carouche.
In the FK-verse, blood preference is based upon what type of creature you
first feed from after you're brought across (Embraced, for those not
familiar with FK terminology). If you feed on a human first, you're a
regular vampire who must drink human blood for nourishment. If you feed
on an animal first, then you're a carouche, and must drink that type of
animal's blood for nourishment.
Tina
Lamia
> As for the animal vampires - ie: the vampire dog - I'm not sure
> if they have names as a 'breed'. =)
Argh! Perri the bloodsucking pooch will live forever in infamy.
It was almost as bad as the WWF episode. Wait, I was wrong. At least the
WWF episode had good Natalie moments.
Tina
NatPacker. Duh.