If you chop off a garou's....
Isshogai00
Bet THAT got your attention. Question for you all. If a garou were to lose a
limb(Ie. have an arm whacked off with a chainsaw or some other really horrible
occurance) would it regenerate?? I have a friend who insists they will, but I
couldn't find a reference in WtA. Any answers to this possibly ridiculous
question would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Isshogai
--Isshogai
"Though he should conquer a thousand men in the battlefield a thousand times,
yet he, indeed, who would conquer himself is the noblest victor." --The
Teachings of Buddha
cjsee
death by aggravated wounds) he may develop a battle scar, in which case it may not
grow back or may grow back but be useless.
Robin
issho...@aol.com (Isshogai00) wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Bet THAT got your attention. Question for you all. If a garou were to lose a
> limb(Ie. have an arm whacked off with a chainsaw or some other really horrible
> occurance) would it regenerate?? I have a friend who insists they will, but I
> couldn't find a reference in WtA. Any answers to this possibly ridiculous
> question would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Isshogai
In my games, this has happened twice. One werewolf had his hand formed to a
lump of flesh by Vicissitude. He chopped of the offending hand and it grew
back as it was before. Another werewolf lost two fingers to Kraken. They have
yet to regenerate, but it will be possible. In a nutshell: I am not using the
Storyteller rules but my homebrew, so you will have to modify the process. I
have a value called 'Health' which I roll against to see whether the limb
heals (success) or not (failure). I do recall however that there are rules in
Werewolf to determine whether a certain aggravated wound will cause battle
scars - you could think of a lost limb as the mother of all battle scars.
Furthermore, this would differentiate between limbs lost to normal and
aggravated wounds. The former would probably heal back without a roll, but I
may be mistaken.
And if a limb does not regenerate, it's no use chopping another piece off
above the wound and hoping it'll regrow whole. It won't.
Robin
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Bear
cjse...@telix.com wrote:
> Normally it would grow back. However, if the Garou was severely injured (near
> death by aggravated wounds) he may develop a battle scar, in which case it may
not
> grow back or may grow back but be useless.
>
>
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Bet THAT got your attention. Question for you all. If a garou were to lose a
> > limb(Ie. have an arm whacked off with a chainsaw or some other really
horrible
> > occurance) would it regenerate?? I have a friend who insists they will, but
I
> > couldn't find a reference in WtA. Any answers to this possibly ridiculous
> > question would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> >
> > Isshogai
> >
What about Vampires? They may not regenerate in the same way as Garou, but
they arise each morning looking the way they were at the time of their
Embrace.
Varney, a Nosferatu, comes off the worse for wear after a run in with a
Ratkin. The Ratkin, being in a good mood, only hacks off Varney's hand.
Varney retreats to sleep for the day. What happens to Varney's hand when he
awakens the next night? Can he continue to play with his Etch-a-Sketch like
before? Or is he reduced to playing with a paddle and ball?
--
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Ratspaw
>
> Hey all,
>
> Bet THAT got your attention. Question for you all. If a garou were to lose a
> limb(Ie. have an arm whacked off with a chainsaw or some other really horrible
> occurance) would it regenerate?? I have a friend who insists they will, but I
> couldn't find a reference in WtA. Any answers to this possibly ridiculous
> question would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
If you want to teach him a lesson, have a freak occurrence: have his
character regenerate an arm and his arm regenerate a copy of his
character, a la a starfish. Neither would realize the other was walking
around being him until some serious confusion had started. Then he'd
have to deal with sharing his life with himself.
Ratspaw
The fleeing rat's tail
Wheels in the corner shadow
Frenzied blood red eyes
Steve Cote
> character regenerate an arm and his arm regenerate a copy of his
> character, a la a starfish. Neither would realize the other was walking
> around being him until some serious confusion had started. Then he'd
> have to deal with sharing his life with himself.
Reminds me of the Army of Nine Fingers. In D&D game, one character had a
ring of regeneration, so he puts it on, cuts the finger off, and that
finger creates a new him. He made something like a 1000 duplicates of
himself, armed them all, and proceeded to ravage the land.
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Skimble
> What about Vampires? They may not regenerate in the same way as Garou, but
> they arise each morning looking the way they were at the time of their
> Embrace.
Um, I think you mean *night*. =)
This is the rule for things like hair length, cosmetic changes, and so
forth. Wounds don't heal back automatically during the day...
> Varney, a Nosferatu, comes off the worse for wear after a run in with a
> Ratkin. The Ratkin, being in a good mood, only hacks off Varney's hand.
> Varney retreats to sleep for the day. What happens to Varney's hand when he
> awakens the next night? Can he continue to play with his Etch-a-Sketch like
> before? Or is he reduced to playing with a paddle and ball?
He'd be missing his hand until he actually concentrated and regenerated
it. In my ruling, backed up by the Tremere Clanbook (In the description
for Reuters Hand) losing a hand or limb or eye is considered honorary
aggravated damage due to the complexity of regenerating the whole thing.
So, once Varney the Vampyre (before his feast of blood) spent five blood
points and had a good day's sleep, it would regenerate as good as new.
Skimble
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Avatar9000
>
>Bet THAT got your attention. Question for you all. If a garou were to lose a
>limb(Ie. have an arm whacked off with a chainsaw or some other really
>horrible
>occurance) would it regenerate?? I have a friend who insists they will, but I
>couldn't find a reference in WtA. Any answers to this possibly ridiculous
>question would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
This is a nice little ruling in whitewolf's WW:tA that says th ST may
abjudicate ANY damage as lethal, especially in the case of severe wounds like
say falling out of an airplane at 10,000 feet and splatting on a pavement. I'd
say losing an arm is pretty severe and should be considered aggravated and will
not regrow without a gift that allows it to.
AVATARMIKE MAGE FANATIC AND DEVILS ADVOCATE
Kintaro Oe
>limb(Ie. have an arm whacked off with a chainsaw or some other really horrible
>occurance) would it regenerate?? I have a friend who insists they will, but I
>couldn't find a reference in WtA. Any answers to this possibly ridiculous
>question would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I would say that's a -no-, especially one lost to aggravated damage.
One lost to normal damage -might-, but it's unlikely.
this might make a good merit.
kabael
my sig will slowly regenerate... give it time...
http://members.xoom.com/McGuffins/
Kintaro Oe
>Ratkin. The Ratkin, being in a good mood, only hacks off Varney's hand.
>Varney retreats to sleep for the day. What happens to Varney's hand when he
>awakens the next night? Can he continue to play with his Etch-a-Sketch like
>before? Or is he reduced to playing with a paddle and ball?
vampires -do- regenerate limbs.
Dath Goodin
damage and spend blood to regen it, and after you do that it's just like any
other aggy damage and it regrows. For werewolves, also treat it as aggy
damage, but the only way to get it back on is 1) surgery which would have a
higher rate of success due to the werewolves regeneration ability, or 2) use
a gift that heals aggy damage, find the limb, reattach it, and use the gift.
Dath
Red Raptor
why do they have to reattach it? If a garou loses an eye and it doesn't
cause a battle scar they can regenerate(If you wan the page, I'll go dig
it up, but its somewhere in the 1st or second players guide if I
recollect correctly) A limb is about as complex as an eye, though its
bigger. I would say that as long as they don't get a nasty scar from the
damage they can regrow it, though it may take some time....
Red Raptor
> If you want to teach him a lesson, have a freak occurrence: have his
> character regenerate an arm and his arm regenerate a copy of his
> character, a la a starfish. Neither would realize the other was walking
> around being him until some serious confusion had started. Then he'd
> have to deal with sharing his life with himself.
hmm, sounds like army of darkness....."Good, bad, I'm the one with the
gun"
Ricardo Williams
In my campaign/chronicle, as long as the wound is not aggravated (a
chainsaw, as you mention in your example), the answer is YES, the limb
would regenerate.
Hope this helps,
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Isshogai00 <issho...@aol.com> escreveu no artigo
<19990325021058...@ng-fa1.aol.com>...
> Hey all,
>
> Bet THAT got your attention. Question for you all. If a garou were to
lose a
> limb(Ie. have an arm whacked off with a chainsaw or some other really
horrible
> occurance) would it regenerate?? I have a friend who insists they will,
but I
> couldn't find a reference in WtA. Any answers to this possibly ridiculous
> question would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
Robin
Bear <favourit...@my-dejanews.com> wrote:
> What about Vampires? They may not regenerate in the same way as Garou, but
> they arise each morning looking the way they were at the time of their
> Embrace.
>
> Varney, a Nosferatu, comes off the worse for wear after a run in with a
> Ratkin. The Ratkin, being in a good mood, only hacks off Varney's hand.
> Varney retreats to sleep for the day. What happens to Varney's hand when he
> awakens the next night? Can he continue to play with his Etch-a-Sketch like
> before? Or is he reduced to playing with a paddle and ball?
>
It would be daft to say the hand just regrows when aggravated damage taken
*without* lobbing off something is difficult to heal and takes a lot of blood
points. It should be possible to regrow expending blood points as you would to
heal any aggravated damage (if it was an aggravated wound).
Although, especially with Nosferatu, it would be nice *not* to regrow it. I
played a Nosferatu once whose left arm was crippled by fire during game play
and I found it fitting that the arm stay half-useless.
Robin
GeneSys general roleplaying rules system & World of Darkness resources
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Ricardo Williams
this, when the Elder, after receiving a claw rake on the face from the
young Garou he has just offended, says something like this: "Sit down (...)
my eye will grow back ina few minutes". or something like this... I can't
remember exactly.
Red Raptor <redr...@earthlink.net> escreveu no artigo
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Adam Lyzniak
Kintaro Oe wrote in message <36fabaaa...@news.bu.edu>...
>>Bet THAT got your attention. Question for you all. If a garou were to lose
a
>>limb(Ie. have an arm whacked off with a chainsaw or some other really
horrible
>>occurance) would it regenerate??
>
>
>One lost to normal damage -might-, but it's unlikely.
>
>this might make a good merit.
>
I think it would, if lost only to non-agg. dmagae, but they'd have to hold
the two seperated bits together, i.e., the top of the arm to the shoulder.
Michael T. Belrose
leg using a healing gift. It was even cut with a silver blade. I assume this
would work without the gift, 'cause Evan is too much of a weenie to be very
powerful.
(kidding, kidding! I like Evan)
kis...@mindspring.com
Michael T. Belrose wrote in message <36FFD08A...@inlink.com>...
> This is not exactly canon, but in "Silver Crown," Evan reattatches a
Garou's
>leg using a healing gift.
The Silver Crown is actually canon, according to Ethan Skemp.
Kish
Red Raptor
> The Silver Crown is actually canon, according to Ethan Skemp.
>
> Kish
ok, I've heard this a couple times. Whats canon? please define it for
me...
kis...@mindspring.com
>me...
Canon: It actually is true in the "official" WoD. Other game supplements
will take it into account. Example: anything written in game supplement
form, down to the Technocracy books, The Chaos Factor, and Dirty Secrets of
the Black Hand. Caveat: If something is written as "this group believes
this," it is canon *that that group believes it*, but not that it's true.
Non-canon: It isn't true in or relevant to the "official" WoD. Example:
Most novels, Kindred: The Embraced, etc. That is, the Masquerade of the Red
Death trilogy established who Count St. Germaine actually is, but that is
irrelevant to WWGS; they could reveal that he is really Malkav if they
wanted, since the Masquerade of the Red Death is not canon.
Does that help?
Kish
Red Raptor
>
> Does that help?
>
> Kish
Very much, thanks.