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Peter Knutsen

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:32:58 PM11/24/09
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Hi

I just bought a guild, for my personal use on one server, i.e. only my
own characters, just so I can get a guild bank.

The seller invited each of my characters in turn, then promoted one of
my characters to guild master, and told me how to kick the existing
members (I made sure that the guild bank was empty first, since I didn't
want to steal from people).

I was able to kick everyone, including the seller (last), except for one
member. I tried kicking him several times, but each time WoW would tell
me that he wasn't a member. Yet he stayed on the member's list.

I'm hoping the problem will go away in a day or two, but what can the
reason be? And what if it doesn't? I can't very well use the guild bank,
as long as there's a stranger in the guild. He might well steal from me.

I can of course write to him and ask him to please leave, but why can't
I kick him? It worked with everyone else, and he didn't have any special
rank...

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Peter Knutsen
sagatafl.org

Eldon Down

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:42:32 PM11/24/09
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Can't explain the issue, but couldn't you make your bank safe by
creating ranks and not giving the straggler rank to access the bank?

Peter Knutsen

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Nov 24, 2009, 3:05:21 PM11/24/09
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Eldon Down wrote:
> Can't explain the issue, but couldn't you make your bank safe by
> creating ranks and not giving the straggler rank to access the bank?

That's a possibility. Anyway, when I took another look at the guild
member list a few minutes ago, he was there for half a second, then he
disappeared. Must have been some kind of lag issue.

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Peter Knutsen
sagatafl.org

PV

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Nov 24, 2009, 5:23:05 PM11/24/09
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Peter Knutsen <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> writes:
>I was able to kick everyone, including the seller (last), except for one
>member. I tried kicking him several times, but each time WoW would tell
>me that he wasn't a member. Yet he stayed on the member's list.

Open a ticket.

>I'm hoping the problem will go away in a day or two, but what can the
>reason be? And what if it doesn't? I can't very well use the guild bank,
>as long as there's a stranger in the guild. He might well steal from me.

In the short haul, alter the bank settings to give the bottom rank no chat
and no bank access, and demote the nonexistent player to that rank. That
should lock them out of doing anything bad. *
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* PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something
like corkscrews.

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:21:01 PM11/24/09
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"Peter Knutsen" <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote in message
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No ingame lag should leave a character for a significant period but
a database cleanup may have removed a broken memory.

It seems to be fixed but otherwise a GM request is better than asking in ng. :-)

I have mailed to other players characters and had it disappear.
GM fixed one finally, 5k gold is worth waiting for :-)

It did send but ended up on a non-existent character of the same name.
The GM mentioned character type mail ended up, it was different class,race and level
to the intended recipient, but the same name which of course should not exist.
I would suspect the character may have changed realms or been otherwise
non-existent BUT it was an unusual name, armory showed only one.

It seems there are ghosts in those machines.


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Nov 24, 2009, 8:59:51 PM11/24/09
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"Peter Knutsen" <pe...@sagatafl.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I just bought a guild, for my personal use on one server, i.e. only my own characters,
> just so I can get a guild bank.
>
> The seller invited each of my characters in turn, then promoted one of my characters to
> guild master, and told me how to kick the existing members (I made sure that the guild
> bank was empty first, since I didn't want to steal from people).
>
> I was able to kick everyone, including the seller (last), except for one member. I tried
> kicking him several times, but each time WoW would tell me that he wasn't a member. Yet
> he stayed on the member's list.

I can see why someone who financed a guild may want to sell it but would
hope they would clean it up ,advise the members and kick everyone first.
What I wonder is why anyone would buy a guild?
If it was a reasonable price , i.e. near cost ,why do it that way? if dirt cheap, why?
They are easy enough and cheap enough to create yourself from scratch
without the problems of organising handover and payment.

My bankers do signatures all time , even alt invites for personal guilds
depending how polite they were about the requests.
Usually for free or a sliding scale of gold again depending how polite .
The signature bribe and getting someone to invite alts before kicking is minor.

I found mail between alts setting up camp at a mailbox
with big bags better than running back and forth to the bank.
That works best for me but I have a few alts cascading items
through the AH and only use their banks for long term storage items
appropriate to their market niche.
Cheaper than guild tabs and leaves bankers free to do charters
and mains free to perform in social guilds.


Marco Dieckhoff

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:32:20 AM11/25/09
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> What I wonder is why anyone would buy a guild?

> if dirt cheap, why?

Guild banks. Simple enough :)

Often, when guilds are merged or someone leaves the game, you can get
guild bank tanks for a fraction of the original cost - by buying a guild.


> My bankers...

There it is.

Some people don't have multiple character slots left for mules, or like
to keep all in one place.

Peter Knutsen

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:55:33 AM11/25/09
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> I found mail between alts setting up camp at a mailbox
> with big bags better than running back and forth to the bank.
> That works best for me but I have a few alts cascading items
> through the AH and only use their banks for long term storage items
> appropriate to their market niche.

I've had a banker, on one of the servers I play on, with plenty of big
16- and 20-slot bags (not that big, of course, but my characters are
still only level 25-35), and it is rather a hassle, especially since
different characters do different craftings, e.g. the cook and the
alchemist.

What I wanted was not a guild, but a guild bank, and I got that, and for
only 150 gold. Since the first bank tab costs 100 gold, and the seller
did help inviting all my 8 characters (I don't do the main+alts thing,
rather I play several characters in parallel), I consider it fairly cheap.

> Cheaper than guild tabs and leaves bankers free to do charters
> and mains free to perform in social guilds.

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Peter Knutsen
sagatafl.org

DarkRose

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Nov 25, 2009, 8:34:27 AM11/25/09
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Right, all my non-active alts and my banker are in my bank guild with
3 tabs. Even with 3 tabs, I'm almost completely full with gems and
cloth of various kinds and am considering buying another tab... But it
makes it easy with all my alts being officers, intead of logging and
re-logging to mail crafting materials and such, they can just take it
straight out of the bank themselves...

Peter Knutsen

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:36:37 PM11/25/09
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DarkRose wrote:
> Right, all my non-active alts and my banker are in my bank guild with
> 3 tabs. Even with 3 tabs, I'm almost completely full with gems and
> cloth of various kinds and am considering buying another tab... But it
> makes it easy with all my alts being officers, intead of logging and
> re-logging to mail crafting materials and such, they can just take it
> straight out of the bank themselves...

Yes. Remembering who has what was a major problem for me. I do feel
quite the craving for a 2nd tab, though. 96 slots just isn't nearly
enough, for 4 actively adventuring characters.

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Peter Knutsen
sagatafl.org

Catriona R

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Nov 25, 2009, 1:44:49 PM11/25/09
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Got 4 tabs in my gbank and it's not enough - admittedly it's not only
mine, sharing it with my bf, but still... it fills up so fast!
Crafting materials and spare armour mainly - like the epics I'm
skilling tailoring on are going into the gbank because between us
we've got loads of casters levelling, low lvl now but we'll use them
in time!
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Sagart (80 Undead Priest)
Tairbh (80 Tauren Druid)
Buinne (78 Troll Shaman)
Balgair (72 Human Rogue)
Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock)
Ruire (70 Blood Elf Paladin)

Peter Knutsen

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Nov 25, 2009, 2:10:20 PM11/25/09
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Catriona R wrote:
> Got 4 tabs in my gbank and it's not enough - admittedly it's not only
> mine, sharing it with my bf, but still... it fills up so fast!
> Crafting materials and spare armour mainly - like the epics I'm
> skilling tailoring on are going into the gbank because between us
> we've got loads of casters levelling, low lvl now but we'll use them
> in time!

If an item is meant for a particular character, I tend to send it to him
or her, and then it can be kept in that character's inventory (I often
do this with items that the character is only 1-3 levels from being able
to use) or personal bank.

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Peter Knutsen
sagatafl.org

ThomasH

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Nov 27, 2009, 6:36:28 AM11/27/09
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Peter Knutsen wrote:
> Yes. Remembering who has what was a major problem for me.

Using for example ArkInventory (bag addon) or Altoholic (alt-addon) is a
huge help here. Either AddOn lets you search the inventories of all your
alts for an item.

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Greets, Thomas.
Bulgaroth (Hunter), Latigo (DK), Darkhulk (Druid), and Smallwall
(Paladin) on Argent Dawn EU.

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